Hi guys,
when we had the last bbq @ rabat, we talked a lot about doing some Tshirts, strickers, caps etc with the MFF logo and maybe after we do out nicks on the back aswell and also we talked about doing some sort of banner to use when the MFF meets up.
What do you think ? Any ideas ? Any help from some sponsor maybe ?
Thanks
Chris
hi i know a guy who has a t-shirt printing buisness, lives in bugibba, if its any help.
Could you get any sort of discount ? ;)
Chris 8)
he owns the factory.
That would be a good idea guys and for the colour make it very visible so if someone has some secret places we can spot him from some good distance ;D
lol nice one SPITEC, so ill have to remove any t-shirt or cap when fishing haha
Good idea boys especially now for the competition ;)
Guys, one reason I haven't taken this further at the moment, is because we need to have the MFF logo touched up/enhanced or maybe re-done. It was done by a forum member but unfortunately the logo he sent was in pretty low resolution and he doesn't have a vector image of it and can't locate it.
When it comes to printing you need a good vector image otherwise the quality isn't good. I came up against this issue a couple of weeks ago when it came to having the forum membercards professional printed by a willing sponsor.
What I need to do is find someone or a sponsor to re-do or enhance the logo or pay to get it done so that we then have a good source image for printing.
Anyone know of any people?
That would be nice.Any sponsors out there??????
do you want me to check with guy, they are both keen fishermen, i guess he ill need to know quantity, etc.
So maybe it will be easier !! Tell them about the forum and also to register. If they will be keen to help us will give them quantity later on ;)
But before that we need to redesign the logo on a higher resolution, any graphic designers out there ??
Chris 8)
nick,are you talking of the logo that twoutes done or the old one.as regards quality of reproduction you wont get any better than the one thats embroidered on the polo shirt i gave you and also to twoutes.also if you remember when we had the first meet at the jubilee cafe in sliema i gave you the adress of the guy in gzira who does these things and also a price list and an example of his work.if you want a high resolution copy of the logo thats on your polo shirt i have it on computer and i can e-mail it to you.twoutes sent it to me and i e-mailed it to the company that produced it.
Hi Keith, no it's the logo displayed on the forum and on the main site. The one Joe had done is indeed as you said high res so the priority is to get the current logo cleaned up into a format that will print well.
hi nick,i,ve posted twoutes logo in the gallery under miscelleneous.
Yep in fact I think that would be a nice image to have on the back of a T-shirt. At the front the forum logo as above and then the twoutes one for a rear image. I would like to get a few different types of images of the rear of t-shirts etc but at least we have a start :)
It's really super ;D ;D ;D
Well done to all those who worked on it ;)
Chris 8)
perfect job guys keep it up ,
well done
kevin
instead of t-shirts could it be done on polo shirts because they look far smarter and better material than t-shirts and they last longer
last longer by far but in the sun you will feel like a sausage on a grill mate ;D ;D , our drivers used them once and they doooooo heat you up ...... :o :o
The design that you see in the gallery was done by Twoutes a forum member from Australia
Nick the logo that redbus posted has a yellow fin tuna which is not appropriate for us as we cannot catch those, so in my opinion it shouldnt be used or at least change to a BFT
you cant...
I can :P
For a while that was the original logo! The yellow fin can be easily sorted to a Bluefin!
Everyone can if they want to ;)
maxxat75 where can u catch a yellow fin in the Mediterranean?!? lapsiboy go race your yamaha LOL
hey, you took us out from the story. any spearfishing icon????
LOOOL emic malta, but good point m8
I asked Buddagrass to have his brother try and come up with some designs, but that was a while ago so I don't think he managed to find the time. Ed if you know anyone who can draw/design, we can add and include them etc.
Redbus was just showing what had already been done a while ago.
Nice idea guys.
Wish I could help.............If I get to know someone I will ask
I think that there is a difference in the type of print that we want. If we want a basic logo, that can be done by normal screen printing, but for a nice picture at the back of it, I would rather go for a transfer, and not a print, since that someone can do a nice digital image, and the transfer will come out beautiful like a photo........
Good effort for those who tried until now..... I can help in other workmanship.....
nice idea mates. I can't locate the designs submitted in the gallery, any directions where they might be pls.
Skip have just posted a logo that my son made for me as I told him we were looking for a logo. I have posted it in the gallery under miscelleneous. http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1922. it is just similar to the twoutes logo but with a slight change by means of adding an Octopus which should include our friends that practice spearfishing.
Please note that the more small details there is in the logo the less visible it will be when printed on textile, espetially in small sizes. The simpler the better. Siluette style like the original is ideal.
ramio if you look at the logo i posted in the gallery,the one that twoutes designed,you,ll see that you can see the small detail and its emroidered by computer not printed
I like the first one. But can I suggest in a different way? Instead of the tuna, why nor to make a guy with the rod and instead of the swordfish why not to make a spearo. THE Lampuka is good cos it looks like tradition fish in Maltese waters.
i personaly think a big swordfish fighting with a nice black background would be great :D
or else to make it more realistic a nice can of cisk and packet of cigarettes 8)
thats right rammx. Cisk and cigarette logos will be enough
i like it, but i guess you will never plaese everyone, in fact i like them all,
I would make a fisherman spinning and catching a spero so both fisherman and speros would be involved ;D
I go for spitec's version sounds reasonable. jokes apart, the guy with the rod and swordfish is great, why not put a diving spear guy underneat and leave them all siluetts. Will be nice even if seen from a litle distance.
nice ideas guys.
nice one spitec
Any news guys ??
Amilna xi haga jew ?
Chris 8)
guys, i got hold of the vector format of something...interesting!
some of this can be used for the logo! there are various fish which are found in Maltese waters!
LINK: http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2029
Image under Misc. Section
hope they are useful!
the only problem is that i've never worked with vector files.
i'll try my best and maybe i'll show you the result later on this week
Fava
I'll try to ask my brother to work on a logo too ..... he was supposed to do one earlier this year but he is stuck on WoW or COD or Skateboarding and never managed to do it. He did my forum logo too .... I really it. We'll see how it goes.
Hi peeps when you finally decide on a logo and wether you are going to have it on t-shirts or sweat shirts please let me know (1) how much (2) where can I get them from. you can you use any of the logos you have put on the forum they all look good to me, NOZTHEVIKING
Ejja guys, let's do it
lets arrange on them so maybe if we can hurry, we can have them on when we meet up.
Guys as I explained before the issue is not getting the T-shirts done, Redbus9 had already found various places who will do it. The issue is that the logo needs to be re-done in Paintshop or similar so that it comes out as a higher quality vector image necessary for printing. The only version I have is a low to medium res compressed 600kb JPEG which frankly isnt suitable.
The logo looks fine on the web etc but it does not print well. No one from the forum is well versed or works in graphic design, so it looks like we will need to outsource this as a paid job to a freelancer to get it sorted out.
It's two fold as once this is done aside from the T-shirts we can then get the new membercards printed.
can we pay somene to do it?
Ed that's what we have to do yes, pay someone and get it done.
Quote from: skip on December 03, 2008, 08:24:07 CET
Guys as I explained before the issue is not getting the T-shirts done, Redbus9 had already found various places who will do it. The issue is that the logo needs to be re-done in Paintshop or similar so that it comes out as a higher quality vector image necessary for printing. The only version I have is a low to medium res compressed 600kb JPEG which frankly isnt suitable.
The logo looks fine on the web etc but it does not print well. No one from the forum is well versed or works in graphic design, so it looks like we will need to outsource this as a paid job to a freelancer to get it sorted out.
It's two fold as once this is done aside from the T-shirts we can then get the new membercards printed.
I remember once we spoke Skip and I had suggested my brother doing it but ... he is so damn busy at the moment that we better leave him out of it. In the mean time, I have a very good friend of mine, he is a graphic designer and web designer too. If you want just email me everything needed to be done and I'll ask him for a quote. Then it is just a matter of sharing the bill between us. Or else if you want I can give you his contact details and deal directly with him.
if we need to pay i dont mind ,it will look more organised
I will try to get a quote too hopefully by tuesday
Can someone give me the best copy of the logo you want as a vector image and i'll see what i can do. I'm no graphic designer but i can work my way round photoshop pretty well.
nando last one i used, i got it from a images google search for Malta fishing forum.
i will try out the logo on my mobile case if it comes out ok i show it to u guys coming to zeta.... those interested have to give me an empty mobile case and i do it for u. this only if it comes out ok.
I am not sure how you have progressed on the logo issue; if you still need help let me know I can help you out. I had done the logo for the Malta Skin Diving Club.
If you are require the logo as the one at the top of the page, with the orange sunset background then the logo cannot be all vectors since the photo will have to be a raster image. Of course you will have to have the original photo if you want it exactly the same otherwise you can never get it exactly similar. OR we can do something from scratch.
Let me know even by email since I sometimes do not log onto internet for a few days...and of course no charges involved.
Hi Tony, thanks for your post and offer. I will admit I'm not super versed on Vector vs Raster but I just looked it up and can understand what's going on. I see there are many advantages of a Vector image, resolution independant, can be resized etc, however with it's limitation as you point out in terms of the background etc.
Perhaps what would be best is to create a raster image in a very high resolution, suitable for large print of say posters etc, as then resizing smaller isn't as much of a problem as the pixels are made smaller so the image should still look sharp when printed. Does this makes sense?
The trouble with the original photo is that that logo was created by a forum member using some 3D design program which I guess had image templates etc. Unfortunately he lost the main image he worked on before he converted it to a jpg and can't remember what software he used!
It's true that aside from on the website the logo hasn't really been used anywhere yet in terms of print/advertising etc, so I suppose we are still in time to change it completely.
I know some members had suggestions of seeing a logo with something representing shore fishing, offshore fishing and spearfishing but I can't really visualise myself how that would come out, being a person not good at graphic design. If we were to do something from scratch then I think we should definately base it around a vector image for future flexibility.
Hi Skip
Just sent you and Edward a pm. You are correct; logo is best done in hi res and then its never a problem to reduce res; on the contrary trying to take a low res image like the one from the internet and trying to increase res wont work. When reducing resolution you are removing data (pixels) and once removed you simply cannot put them back in. Any design done will be hi res so there will be no issues and can be used to print whatever you require.
Toni
Hi guys.
I appreciate the work you are trying to do. I am sorry that I am not so practical in PC design, because if I was I would have given a hand for sure.
I am thinking twice and I have a friend of mine who works with advertising and design at coka cola, whom i would try to ask for some help, fingers crossed. Thanks to you also Toni. Guys I am a passionate for good art, and especially modern. I am sorry to sound maybe too demanding, but i would like the design to be a bit modern, abstract or shadow like, what i am referring is something like buddhgrass, or like skip's picture... A shirt which you would be proud wearing, not like a shirt with a fisherman ad a 'lampuka' like the ones you find at a souvenir shop 'I have been to Malta'....and are we thinking of a logo at the back, large size or, just a small logo on the chest, cause that will make a lot of difference. And by the way the logo on top of this page was't bad either. We can evelv something onto these grounds, that may also involve us spearos.!!
Shanook has sent over an enhanced high res raster image of the main logo. The intention is to keep that for the front of the tshirt, breast pocket size and then have some of the guys like Toni, Nando etc try and come up with some Artwork for the back of the tshirt.
The idea would be to have various different designs available eventually.
hi guys.
good news, I am at my friends house (the graphic designer), and he came up with some good news re the back of our shirt. He will do for us some nice design. I spoke to him re:our ideas, and I am sure that he will come up with something fabulous. He will do it for free, but we must thank him somehow. Maybe then we will invite him for the launch of it, and he will sign the artwork.
We will see
That is great Baghira. I am really looking forward to it ;)
Thanks to this guy. Hope that we do not give him the hassle uselessly, and we carry on in printing this shirt.
I was thinking about some kind of Rip Curl design for the back, something you might find at the back of an Animal t-shirt, or speedo, something freaky that I would wear, and not to wear in my garage, not something like a souvenir of malta.
here is a draft design related to apnea.....depending on the amount we would like to spend on the t-shirts will depend the amount of colours we can use......so we might have to amend and adjust accordingly.
I have another draft nearly ready, hope to find time to finish off this week....more ripcurl style...less fancy and more general. If you like these I have another idea related to surface fishing...to keep everyone happy.
Let me know
Toni
Great job Toni :)
nice one toni
How about adding a harpoon ? .......... I like it ;)
Seems we are getting close to what we want.
it is nice. i think its better if we have a shirt like this for apnea and another for surface fishing. like this it will be nicer because if you put both on one t-shirt there will be a lot of things in a small space. than everyone can buy which one he wants or both
Good job mate!!!
Quote from: busumark on December 15, 2008, 09:14:42 CET
it is nice. i think its better if we have a shirt like this for apnea and another for surface fishing. like this it will be nicer because if you put both on one t-shirt there will be a lot of things in a small space. than everyone can buy which one he wants or both
I totally agree with you Busu. Apart from the back logo ...... all shirts should be the same when it comes to MFF logos.
Toni ... I don't know if it's possible but can the back logo be like burned in sort of ..... not sort of a square picture. Bil-Malti iktar naf nispjega :) .... qishom l-edges jigu ghax-xejn ghax-xejn mhux dik il-haga qisa square impoggija. I think it would be more funky :)
May I suggest that we start a topic where all those interested in buying such Tshirts will put down their names and qty wanted. This will help those organising this to plan better regarding expenses and costs.
Are we doing only t shirts or maybe also some caps or jackets ??
I will buy it for sure.
Chris 8)
nice one toni. I will buy one for sure, one depicting surface fishing that is. Also I agree with gazetta's idea about jackets and caps.
re caps if one had to wait a bit i am thinking of the logo on a cap but we have to wait a bit for it. As soon as i manage one will let u guys know. Apart from that there might be others interested in doing a cap, more than welcome to go ahead and do something.
Thanks for your comments.
I agree logo should be the same on front, image on back side. Same logo should go on caps as Shanook said. This helps to create the MFF look.
Buddhagrass: I understand what you mean...it can be done so that it fades int0 the black of the cotton. Re the harpoon I was playing with the idea but decided to keep it out so as to leave image a bit 'neutral'....but we can do it of course.
Busumark: I agree...not more than 2 or 3 designs so as to keep costs down...each design will require separate origination cost at printer.
Holidays will be starting next week and so hope to have 3 designs ready by end of year......unfortunately cant go diving right now so might as well do these.
Final design would depend on how much we are going to spend as cost will be related to number of colours....we might end up having to remove the 'photo' parts and make it all line drawing. I had the idea of doing close-ups of fish heads like my avatar but with one or 2 colours only the effect might not be as I imagine.
Toni
I agree with the idea of having different categories for the back but keep same front.
The design is superb but as was said before too complex. If cost is high we can opt for simpler options and have three categories: underwater, land and offshore fishing.
caps can be same logo as front.
good work toni
Hi ppl sorry didn't post something but i have made in 15 minutes a sort of image. The position of the separate images isn't important, i chose the best of the fish i found on the net .eps format. besides the image i was going to upload a .eps (vector file which i used) but i could not upload because it size is above the maximum attachment size [[this was the file which i posted an image earlier]]. i have various other files (.eps) which whose interested, may use.
any suggestions? could someone alter the images/ combine with his existing MFF logo proposal, maybe using some of the material i will provide?
Andrea
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Quote from: toni t on December 15, 2008, 20:41:50 CET
Buddhagrass: I understand what you mean...it can be done so that it fades int0 the black of the cotton. Re the harpoon I was playing with the idea but decided to keep it out so as to leave image a bit 'neutral'....but we can do it of course.
Toni, the reason why I asked you if it's possible to add a speargun is that the way it is at moment reflects another type of discipline which is Apnea (Freediving). As far as I know there is no one over here who practise Apnea (Freediving) by itself. So just by adding a speargun it will automatically indicates that the subject is spearfishing ;). I thank you for dedicating most of your free time for this project. I am 100% convinced that we'll end up with some great material.
Hi guys.
I was thinking of a design that can incorporate both fishing and spearfishing, into a nice design which can be just in one colour and still attracting, or eyecatching. I do not beleive that we have to do more than one design, at the moment, but that's just my point of view. I also do not like the idea of the sqarish photograph print, I would like to come out with something not dowloaded, but something designed from scratch. And it is for this reason that I went to a professional. Hope that you do not hurry, and wait to see what he can come out with. Usually as you said you had to pay such person, and I definitely do not want him to do the work for us free, and not even consider it.
I have to still thank all of you, for the active participation.
FAVA pls. the picture that you came up with needs to be banned, since that the scuba diver that you illustrated has nothing to do mate, with our sport. :-\
yes no problem baghira, i thought about that too.
It would be nice if the respective logo is designed by the members themselves. What about propping up an art design forum competiton for the respective logo?
Quote from: fisheye on December 15, 2008, 12:27:44 CET
May I suggest that we start a topic where all those interested in buying such Tshirts will put down their names and qty wanted. This will help those organising this to plan better regarding expenses and costs.
Good idea, but perhaps we ought to wait first till we have some designs so people have a better idea of what they will be buying.
The first one off the 'press' will be something along the lines of a Polo shirt and/or Tshirt with the revised Malta Fishing Forum Logo on it and the rest plain.
We'll follow with the same only this time on a tshirt there will be a designed print on the back, and carry on from there.
In terms of 'ready-made' back tshirt designs where we might add some text as a catchphrase, caption etc I am including some below which we can purchase, BUT when used for re-sale the license is quite expensive, around $100 per image.
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_9.jpeg)
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_8.jpeg)
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_7.jpeg)
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_6.jpeg)
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_5.jpeg)
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_4.jpeg)
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_3.jpeg)
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_2.jpeg)
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_1.jpeg)
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_17_12_08_8_42_07_0.jpeg)
those green ''piranhas'' would look realy cool :P
There are some very good pics there Skip! The $100 shouldn't be too much if split by the quantity, which I offhand calculate should be around 50 for the initial order!
Skip, don't get me know wrong. I really like these stocks but honestly I'de prefer something like Tony is doing. I would imagine these stocks more on caps, keychains and stickers than a back T-Shirt logo. I think if I haven't seen Tonys first design I would have been happy with these on the shirt but it seems we can have a better design from what Tony have shown us ;)
Come on...let's organize a competition for all members to input their ideas...
here is a quick, silly scribbling I came up with...
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/183_18_12_08_8_40_50.jpeg)
I am sure that there are many memebers in this forum that may crop up whith much better ideas. :)
Hello to all,
I saw this post and am glad of this initiative. I take care of the design material for a large company in malta. I can help you out to find a suitable printer for screen printing and a designer if you like. The logo above by Spnotta is very original and cool!...It rocks man!
I also like his idea of placing a posts with these designs, giving a deadline to contributors to posts logos and choose the best from them.
Good idea..then we can all contribute so that we can perfect the image..Matrix i think you can be a big help for the t-shirts ..maby you can come up with some ideas, it would be great :)
Toni is already working on a design or two as is Baghira's friend so we'll let those come up. I just wanted to give ppl an idea of what there is already out there and associated costs, as you can see coming up with our own designs usually makes more sense, but is quite a workload for the designer as these things take alot of time.
Wowowowowowow
It seems that more people are getting involved. I love the designs posted by skip, and I beleive that those would be perfect for a back of shirt, I love funny images. What i would like to add is that if something similar is made between us, it would be free, and maybe more matching to our activities.
And by the way, I have been away for some time now and I am happy in reading this thread and seeing that spnotta is also contributing. I should therefore read another post to see what has happened,but I beleive I made my part in pushing him to join us more, in participation.
I also found his advice, re: competition very positive. It involves more those taking part, and also all of us, who are not so literate in computer design, by commenting etc. I also like idea of the rough sketch made by you. Others can also crop someone else's design, and elaborate on that part which needs retouching.
Seems we'e on the right track
Quote from: baghira on December 18, 2008, 19:58:21 CET
It involves more those taking part, and also all of us, who are not so literate in computer design, by commenting etc. Others can also crop someone else's design, and elaborate on that part which needs retouching.
In my opinion you have a very vaild point here.
As far as I know, when it comes to design, be it, promo advert, logo, software etc... there are different routes in getting satisfactory results... but the best approaches seem to agree on some points.
One very important point here is that a very good way of getting the best result is obtain as many prototypes (crude, raw sketches) as possible...filter the potential canididates and take the "fit to purpose" parts (building blocks) and ideas and amalgamate into one track.
Then subject to feedback and mould into a some mediumly detailed prototypes....
One prototype is then subjected to detailed feedback, as in colours, tonalities etc
What I am sure of is that the worst thing to go on about it is to get one track and work blindfoldidly with it unti it is finished without any feedback along the process. Designers are pro at their jobs but their products are best concieved when there is feedback and direction from the clients.
Like speed without without velocity.
Maybe Matrix could give us details of how things are done in the design business. :)
But beware of when it is taken to votes and voters...voting or rather democracy is a setback. Just look at the local picture....LOL
Ok guys so for the front and our re-worked logo we have:
A design by Nando, vector and high res raster:
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_19_12_08_5_18_57.jpeg)
A design by Shanook's friend, a high res raster:
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_19_12_08_5_29_50.jpeg)
Then to get an idea we have Nando with a suitable option for embroidery as there are additional limitations, the fill in colour is taken from the garment colour:
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_19_12_08_5_39_39.jpeg)
And finally a full vector no fill again, garment or item background takes the fill colour:
(http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/gallery/1_19_12_08_5_44_46.jpeg)
Thoughts and comments, be respectful though to the designers they put in a lot of hard work!
Very nice pictures I think we should stick to this logo that we are used to see on the forum,my opinion.I like them very much.
Quote from: SPITEC on December 19, 2008, 19:04:00 CET
Very nice pictures I think we should stick to this logo that we are used to see on the forum,my opinion.I like them very much.
I agree with spitec.. these are nice pics and i really like this logo..
Guys the first two are different and essentially what we need to decide on. So it's a question of deciding between them as they are our original logo re-worked to a higher res and quality by both designers
Personnaly i think the top one (Nando's one) is a bit nicer, i think the font is nicer and also the colour..mind you they are all very nice so no offence to anyone but we have to choose only 1
i agree with lapsiboy
all are good but i prefere the first one by nando because there is the sun and the sea is calm
Thats just what i was gonna say busu ...that its natural for me to say that the one with calm sea is nicer hehe..
I vote for the first one(nando)
Wonderful job guys 10x a lot for your dedication and I think I agree with the rest. The first logo should do the job.
Let's stick to one of these two guys and start the manufacture !!!
Uniforms comin up guys !!!
A nice function for the presentation of these tops/shirts/jackets/caps should be organised in my opinion. I don't know if others agree. I have something in mind alreay so as soon as we're close to the final product I'll let you know.
Chris 8)
Sorry, may I give you some advice re the logos chosen. Please don't get me wrong I am just trying to help from experience.
If this logo is going to be printed on t-shirts, there are two main methods that this could be done, or by using screen printing, or else by plastic transfer (life a photocopy on a tshirt)
In my advice the best quality and cost effective method to use is screen printing. This method applies layers of paint coat on the shirt. he disadvantage is that there is a limit on the number of colours one can use. Normally a logo does not contain lots of colours. To have a professional logo try to keep it to a maximum of 4 coulors, much of the worlds top branded logos in fact use only one colour.
In my opinion the first logo is the most attractive but this logo is not suitable for printing on tshrts caps ect. Its best used on letterheads, website, adverts ect.
Skip try to give us a 2 or three colour samples of the first logo, maybe even using different shades of blu.
Another thing is that the logo should be in twain vector layered format, preferably designed using Freehand MX and in CMYK
I don't know if I explained myself clearly. If you want those person working on the logo can contact me in PM
Hi Matrix thanks for your info and feedback. Whilst I can understand what you're saying, bear in mind that screen printing whilst offering the best quality is usually aimed for high volume orders as it becomes very cost effective.
The the main logo (the first one) that can't be done, a) due to gradient fill colour and b) as you point out because you have to have a different screen for each colour.
What I had in mind was to use commercial transfer based printing in order to do a run on white t-shirts using the full fancy logo so that we can make a start.....
Designs 2 and 3 are there to address the issues you have raised, when considering other types of printing like screen printing, embroidery, things like the key chains, mugs etc in fact if you notice in he second one it's a solid blue vector and the third is a plain vector.
So yes we need to look at some colour samples to consider if using screen printing etc.
All images will be in eps or tiff format retaining vectors and CMYK
I like them all but Nando's image looks more realistic but still welldone for all images.
well done to the guys who are working on this project! I tend to agree with the others, that is I fancy the first logo with the calm sea. My second option would be the one in blue which is depicted in the latest gallery pic.
Hey guys an idea would be to put a kind of Maltese flag on the logo like maltese cross red and white for example or the national maltese flag.
This is a very interesting subject, and I have to respect anyone's opinion. I have to give all merits to those working on this project, but as many know me, i cannot, not comment onto something that I do not agree with. I find that until we have not a good (wow) shirt we should not proceed. Since we will be left with just that one, and it will be hard to redo another one.
I love both logos, but as matrix said most professional logos are done by screen printing, with minimum number of colours. I hate transfers since they look really funny and unprofessional. I am of the idea, that we should work for a suitable back picture, and when we are done we continue for the print. For the front logo, we got it already, and it should also be done by screen printing. Look in your wardrobe, and tel me if you find any shirts that are printed in transfer!!
As regards screen printing, simply give me an idea of what you want, (shirt, polo, long sleeve), and how much you want to spend, and I will give you a quote. My friend owes Brother's Ink, and he told me that you pay separate for the shirt, cause you have to choose the brand, if abanderado or fruit of the loom or cheaper. He also stated that every aded colour will cost 15 euros, but not to confuse you, when we decide what we want just let me know, and I will bring this quote.
As regards the image, he said that he can work also with a JPG.
Hi m8s, I have prepared a preview of what I have in mind for the tshirt, another thing I wanted to tell you if you consider to get a sponsor for these tshirts, maybe Mr Fish can sponsor these tshirts by placing a logo on them. Another thing I wanted to ask is if these tshirts will be printed both on the front and at the back as this is an important aspect when designing the tshirt.
Its GREATTT mate!!
Guys were you planning for a particular colur for the tshirt??
in my opinion i wouldn't be able to wear a black/dark tshirt on the summer days because of the heat!! what do you think??
I have also prepared a logo that we might use, its in two colour BLUE and RED (nothing politcal guys!) and its suitable for screen printing. This logo need some fine tuning, which I didn't do not to waiste too much time on it, in case it is not approved.
@ matrix : i really like this one.. prosit..
@ skip : this logo really rocks ;)
Thanks!
very nice........
matrix...very good !!!!
A true deisgner!!!!!
...simple...generic...eye-catching...effective....prosit xbin AND ORIGINAL :) Your avatar is cool also...did you design it yourself?
I can imagine a t-shirt with that logo :)
great nice desgin matrix prosit
nice logos mate.
Nice matrix ...An eye catcher for sure! ;)
thanks, i didn't dedicate that much time on it. I have insert the maltese cross today in the logo, in my opinion it worked out great. Take a look and see what you think.
;D
I have also attached a graphical representation of how the t-shirt would look like
In my opinion these are the best ideas till now. Obviously from a person that works full time in this scene, I wouldn't expect less. Well done. I am also fascinated by the print in the bottom part of the shirt. It looks great.
Although I also likes skip's funky pics.
if we are not going to do somethinh on the back this logo goes on the back and a small one on the front on the side
Aw mark...kif inti siehbi! kemm ili ma narak, biex kelli niltaqa mighek meta kont ha nsiefer! Meta ha nmorru ghal naqa tumbrell! tiftakar xsajda konna ghamilna!
Isma jien tal parir li jew ngibu sponsor u nghamluh fuq il kmiem, u nghamlu logo zghir quddiem jew wiehed kbir fin nos bhas sample, u nghamlu graphic bhal parti mil logo biex nghamlu it t-shirt naqa funky, in few words wearable and desired! Pero li nahseb huja il bazi ta kollox huwa il bidget li hemm. Wiehed irid jaddatta id design mal budget li hemm.
@ Matrix, I fully agree with you and I really like your work.
Prosit
Hi Matrix,
Thanks for the designs that you have come up with, they are very interesting, but I do not want to change the logo that has been associated with the forum for the past couple of years. This is why we worked on having people re-do the existing one in vector format etc, as opposed to do something from scratch.
I can see the design you came up with as one of the graphics for the back of a Tshirt, along with part of it reprinted below to make it a bit funky. With that kind of design the front logo that Nando has worked on, the vector without the sunset background, we would not have Malta Fishing Forum printed underneath, it would just be the logo.
Perhaps you might propose some different colours to fill the billfish with instead of the blue, but basically that will remain as the logo, with the full version that includes the sunset for letterheads etc or places where it can work.
In terms of sponsor for a Tshirt, this is already being discussed and options exist. We need to make a start, new rear graphics and things can always be added later on.
Skip
I fully agree with skip, that is, we should keep the exsisting forum logo. On the other hand I believe that matrix is making exceptional work re designs which can be considered for future use! Well done matrix!
Yep having a landscape type logo certainly helps for stickers, and the web where banners are designed around that size, but I still think that his designs would look good as a rear T-Shirt design and as mentioned on the front we don't have the text Malta Fishing Forum, just the logo.
If we get sponsors for events or similar, I like the idea of having them on the sleeves.
I agree with your reasoning, and after giving some people a hard job to do, it a bit pitiful to move their work appart, although I have to admit that i liked more Matrix design.
I also got the back of shirt designed by my friend., and here it is attached. I like the concept (spearo anf fishing), but the image still needs a lot of refining.
I like the original logo and the way it was revamped. Great job to all those involved.!!!!
To be quite open, frank and honest...possibly and most probably.... in the making of the original logo the apnea spearfishing part of the forum was not really included. :)
Personally speaking if I have to wear a t-shirt... I have to like it (obviously) Ok,OK without doubt the current logo is great...and heaven forbid the scrapping of such great work...BUT.., swordfish...lines and hooks don't really match a spearo's fishing style. LOL. :) Thus. since the practices of such fishing techniques are different...then why shouldn't the forum have a common non-specific logo for brand wear that incorbates both practices such as the one matrix came up with??...or maybe the forum can have two logos for both practices. It makes lots of sense...or maybe it is one of my silly ideas...
Any news guys ??
Chris 8)
I really liked the T-Shirt Tony T had designed but ........ it's not me who needs to decide about what is going to happen
Like anything else, everyone is going to have a different opinion, different preferences etc etc and it would certainly be impossible to accomodate them all as I think we would still have this thread open in a years time.
What I've settled on is that the revamped full colour logo will be that done by Nando, along with his colourless vectors which we will use as required for various things.
Whilst screen printing produces the best results and is good for large runs, it has severe limitations on the design element, because of the number of colours etc. What I intend to do when I recover (I'm currently suffering from a throat infection and a bad cold on top of that!!!) is go around and check out the quality of transfer based printing that the local printers can offer. I want to make sure that they have proper high grade commercial quality transfer paper and see what it looks like.
I have a high quality Aftco Bluewater T-Shirt that has a very detailed multi colour including gradient colour on a dark blue shirt, and it doesn't look like a screen print to me, yet I believe transfer printing is usually only done to white t-shirts, so I'm not sure what it is!
I'm toying with the idea of what Spnotta suggested of having a non specific logo for brand wear, something along the lines of what Matrix came up with.....but I personally think that in order to try and maintin some uniformity we need to stick with the original forum logo colours, blue and the sort of orangey sunset! Also forget the Maltese cross, if you include that you cannot register it as a trademark.
We also now have various proposed designs for the rear of T-Shirts etc that as they get refined would make for some nice shirts.
Matrix what do you thing of re-working your non specific one with different colours?
Skip
Hi Nick,what about emroidery for the logo,same as the polo shirt i gave you.You have the contact details and the prices but they might have altered by now.If youv,e lost the details I could probably find them for you again.Personaly I would prefer a polo shirt as I think they look smarter especially in the evening.
To start with I agree with Skip's comments, but please let me point out that I submitted those logos, as i got the impression that this wasn't yet officialised. If the MFF logo is the one used in the forum then let this be the official logo and try to amend on this version.
Quote from: redbus9 on December 29, 2008, 23:31:13 CET
Hi Nick,what about emroidery for the logo,same as the polo shirt i gave you.You have the contact details and the prices but they might have altered by now.If youv,e lost the details I could probably find them for you again.Personaly I would prefer a polo shirt as I think they look smarter especially in the evening.
Keith embroidery on Polo shirts is definately an option using solid colours instead of fill colours, these are things that will come in time once we've settled on everything. It's not as straight forward as I originally thought!
Quote from: matrix on December 30, 2008, 00:38:00 CET
To start with I agree with Skip's comments, but please let me point out that I submitted those logos, as i got the impression that this wasn't yet officialised. If the MFF logo is the one used in the forum then let this be the official logo and try to amend on this version.
If you think you could come up with something based on this version that would be fantastic, as baghira mentioned, designing things and re-working them takes up alot of time as I really like the things you come up with. If possible I want to try and incorporate as many designs as possible due to the hard work everyone has put in to creating them. That's the beauty of having the rear design option on the clothing....what we have each type of image set/digitized with a printer which okay costs some money but I think it's worth it, then it's up to the individuals to order what they want. Some for example might not want something on the front, just have a design on the back.
I think it would be best of having the forum logo on the front and a funky image incorporating all disciplines at the back
Hello guys, today I put some ideas together and I prepared the artwork for the back of the T-shirt. Hope you like it! Happy new year to all.
impressive stuff!!! great work!!! putting disciplines together... a dentex would have been a great potential candidate for a merger fish (inmy opinion)...respectful fish by both apneists and anglers. :)
Though in my humble opinion the best logos are simplistic, undetailed yet original...there is plenty of room to be creative in the artwork but for the detailed logos... just look around I think it's not that it's not that catchy:) Obviously this is my perspective of things. Take it as my positive input and not negative critisism.
Wow impressive matrix well done.I like the picture a lot,it would be really great on the back of the shirt.
Very nice picture would look great on my back ;D
R u going to Tattoo it Fisheye! hehe :)
Might be a small problem to tattoo it on my back!! :-\ The Marlin is not big enough to fill the area may be a medium size whale will be better ;D ;D
impressive work matrix! I also like spnotta's idea re dentex maybe it might be considered?
This is what's nice to see, different designs that could go on the back of T-shirts, and other clothing so that we have some variety.
Well done :)
Thanks for the positive comments re the design submitted. I used the swordfish to be in line with the forum's logo. A dentex will be another option, even a bream or dorado, could be other versions, will do when have some time.
Really, really cool m8, i like how you managed to keep everyone happy. Thumbs up!!
good job bros.
Sorry I could not be of any help in this one.
I would like the dentex also pls......................
But anyway thanks for the great job to you all.
Any considerations for second mff logo which is apnea spearfishing related or one which is not so detailed and is applicable for all fishing practices?
I thought the idea of having another logo is not being considered? Is it guys, I have already published a logo for the forum and t-shirt, but from the feedback received, it was understood that the logo should remain the one in place to keep identity of the forum. What is needed are pictures or pictorials for the back of the tshirt.
Quote from: SPNOTTA on January 07, 2009, 10:16:56 CET
Any considerations for second mff logo which is apnea spearfishing related or one which is not so detailed and is applicable for all fishing practices?
No second logo, but definately consideration to having something for branding on clothing etc even on the front, something like Matrix's original design that was on the black T-shirt or similar. Not a logo but almost like something associated with brandwear.
Not sure if we are still on this...as far as I recall I think we were onto a single color design to keep costs down........anyway here are some one-color designs I made applicable for white or dark coloured shirts and an idea on how they would actually look. First 3 are for fishing/marine guys and number 4 for spearos. In my opinion trying to put in all fishing types together will make the design too complex...that how I see it.
Caw Toni
Good job toni T
That's the way aha aha I like it aha aha
To include both activities in one shirt, it has to be a funny design. that's how I see it
yes man i love it , great job bro ...... when r we going to book a couple of shirts ......
great!!!ToniT...FLABBERGHASTED HERE!!!!
Great work Toni. I love all the designs. All I would change is the underneath small fish in the spearo design. I would make it more grouper like. But apart from that they are amazing.
eccellent job Toni
nice job mate i like the design ;D
Well done Tony, I am back from the UK, been there for a week. My credit card actually has a physical dent in it from all the spending I did!
Time for the moderator team to get together and us to get some clothing done. This is a top priority now
Yep come on guys lets do them, so that we can also have another get togther for the official launch of the MFF wear !! ;)
Maybe you know some nice models who can wear them for the launch :P ;D
Chris 8)
nice shirts mates.. When do you think you will launch them??
gazetta do u want real models (wolf whistle) or like the ones who are going to wear them (big fat bellies)
Quote from: shanook on January 19, 2009, 14:50:36 CET
gazetta do u want real models (wolf whistle) or like the ones who are going to wear them (big fat bellies)
hahaha
What do you think Shanook ?? :P ;D
Chris 8)
Usually i dress roberto cavalli, but for you guys, i will make this exception by offering my sculptured, fantastic body for this fashionwear. :-*
so these shirts are not for the fat bellied, beer drinking, loud belching, real man but for the sissies, who do the waxing to show off........OH WELL ..................
(I have to reason this way mate, i am there no...........)
Quote from: baghira on January 19, 2009, 18:58:10 CET
Usually i dress roberto cavalli, but for you guys, i will make this exception by offering my sculptured, fantastic body for this fashionwear. :-*
Hahaha omg, hmmmm forget what I said then looool
Chris
Hahahahahahah that;s funny shanook
Waxing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Next time we meet I will show you my chest and further down, and judge by yourself if it had ever been waxed ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Any news ppl ??
Chris 8)
Soon mate.
We haven't forgotten but there are various things going on which at this stage we cannot announce.
Ok boss
Chris