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Dear All,


Sorry for the delay in showing the video clips. For viewing kindly enter this link 

http://www.predapro.com

The clips taken are from shore. Trolling from boat performs better than the ones shown in the clips.

The first clip is of a vopa of 20cm (8 inches) long. The second the same vopa but there was a barracuda chasing it. The place is at pixkerija. The other three clips are of a lacca of 12.5 cm (5-6 inches) long.

There is a picture of the rig mounted on the lacca. One can notice that the rig is almost undetectable.

Please I want your feedback on what you think :)


Thanks.

Looks very good, I'm interested to see a boat test at constant speed to see how stable it behaves. The videos show it doing really well.

they look good. the lacca seems better than the vopa

i cannot see anything grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. do they start alone or u have to hit the play button. I tried everything but its all dead.

you have to wait a bit for the videos to come up. i waited for about 5 minutes

looks very good cla144. I think it will behave better with a boat at a constant slower speed.

if you want, I can try it for you from the boat when we go for Bcudas. I think with a constant speed this will work. The 2nd video shows the bcuda really interested, but don t know why it doesn t tied to bite. Think with some weight it works better

The videos play only on internet explorer on fire fox they don't play. We are fixing the problem.

From the boat they behave better. The speed of the video clips was around 5-6 knots.

Regarding the bcuda chasing the bait fish it did not bite because as soon it was going to bite I stopped the bait from moving since I was afraid that I will lose the rig :) I was using 0.25mm line

The members of this forum are entitled for a 10% discount. The rigs shall be available from next January.

look forward. will they contain instructions how to rig them?

how much they will cost?

Yes they will contain instructions how to rig them. Its very easy it will take you only 5 seconds literally :)

The small version like the one with the lacca shall cost around EUR 12.00 without discount.

Any feedback regarding the profile of the rig pls? I mean how does the rig look when mounted on the bait fish.

There is a picture of how it looks like.


Thanks :)

For trolling dead bait fish video clips kindly enter the following website

Now you can see them both with internet explorer and mozilla firefox.


Thanks :)

what does the price include??

The price include one rig which is made of high quality brass and stainless steel. Mounted with wire rope, stainless steel split ring and and high quality treble hook. Together with packaging and instructions to use.

Thanks :)

i think if you reduce a bit the price thy will be a bit more attractive mate ;)

agree with you to ganni.

seems to be very promising. Would be great if we are informed when it will be launched.

See if you can make a few rigs available for testing. You could do it like anyone getting a free rig for testing will need to submit detailed feedback and a writeup/testimonial. Jonathan might be interested in testing and do a review.

Yes in two weeks time I shall have 20 rigs available which will be given for testing.

Regarding the price I don't know whats wrong?? If I reduce the price I have to cut down on quality and I don't want any negative feedback because of this. The price is VAT inclusive. They are very labour intensive and the costs are high.

They are priced like any other meduim sized artificial lure like rapala, yo-zuri and the like. How much is an average artificial lure??? Its between 10 - 15 euros...

The rig its compared as 3 sizes of lures in 5 versions. The rig takes bait fish sizes from 3 - 6 inches and you can rig the following types of bait lacci, bobin,vopa,sawrella and kavalli.

On top of that it has all the advantages of live bait and artificial lures alike. You are rigging a bait fish so it has the following characteristics: natural colour, feel/taste when the fish bites, smell and most important it has natural eyes. The eyes of bait fish are a key element for catching predatory fish. Thats why artificial lure manufactures invest millions of dollars in research and development to develop eyes which are very close to nature.

An other important element is that the rig can be trolled up to 5 knots which cannot be done with current known rigs with live bait. Now I am developing a 2nd generation of rigs which can be trolled up to 10 knots without bait washout. You can troll the same bait for hours and its stay whole.

Thanks :)

When they are available I will let you know :-)

Hopefully beginning of January :-)

Great - looking forward to testing out this rig...hopefully with equally great results

Your rig sounds very interesting and its also versitail because it can be trolled with the normal 4-5 knots but at the same time it does the job of dead bait. Im very keen on testing out your new rig mate! and i imagine that it will have some good results...w'ell wait and see :)

It seems that this new rig has generated lot of interest. Prosit

genious! prosit

Ramio might be able to try it out for Kubrit see how it stands to a good sized fish...U have to ask ramio as I am just assuming. personally I can't test it for u as my boat is on the hard now.

if you want i can try it for dentex, even in competition with a live bait or fresh squid or cuttle fish, however i still have my doubts. it still looks great

Hi gianni

Thank you for the offer much appreciate it. The rig goes only with dead bait fish not squid or cuttle fish.

What doubts do you have if I may ask???


Thanks :)

I think you haven't understood mate. I said i can try to compare it, ie on one use i use your rig and on another rod i use rigs i usually use, using cuttle fish, squid, lacci or sawrell.  only in this way can it be compared i guess

I agree with you 100% gann as that is the way it can be tried / proved to be a good rig.

nope sorry to disagree gann and bigboy, but the rig is going to be tried in the way it swims at different speeds and if it holds the bait for a certain amount of time, not if u catch a fish with it or not. Fish are funny and although sometimes a lure is productive other times it is not. So if u troll with the rig and use other lures and u catch with the lure it wont mean that the rig is not good.

Thanks shanook. You are right

But I don't see objection in trying to compare it.

But I want to know how you are going to compare my rig with other rigs which you troll normally at a speed of 4-5 knots.

Because I don't know any such technique.

Gianni/big boy,

I have shown my rig how it performs with proof (videos) and not by words unlike maybe other companies which marketise their products and on the boat it performs much better because in the videos I had to constantly pull it up and not let it dive so that it can be viewed with the camera. I can also guarantee you that the rig is very easy to mount (5 seconds) and it can hold a lacca for 4 hours or more at 4-5 trolling speeds. Every body knows how fragile is a lacca. I am saying this because I already tried it.

In time I will show you as well not just with words.

Shanook, no problem for me, I'll love to try it on my boat, and you can come over to see it cla144.

Thanks ramio for the invitation. I will come for sure :)

Uploaded by Neville, caught with Predapro

kif nista nixtriha dik neville? Kellek xi comba x hin qbadtu dak u qbadtu l barra jew mal art? Prosit siehbi.

dak to gol barmil m ghedtilniex x kien siehbi trid tahbilna donnok?

dak lizz

proset :)

very nice!

"kwazi tlett kilos... mija fil mija 100%"

sorry i couldn't resist, but without weighing it, you were absolutely certain that it weighs 3 kilos. it touches 3 kilos i think but it is amusing how fast you weighted it and with what certainty- just when getting it out of the net

obviously im joking lol

well done for the predapro will buy one. sent you a pm

whoever have some doubt about Predapro now is watching some good footage.

I always told you it was an incredible achievement Clayton from the first time i saw it in the water.

the most incredible and unique achievement is now one can troll up to 4 and maybe 6 knts using dead fresh bait!

Prosit Clayton. Looking forward to start cathing something with Predapro

@ granitu ed kwazi 3 kilos ax isena lohra qbadt ihor bhallu ta listes daqs.insoma almin jinteresah 2.7kg kien li qbadt bil predapro.

yep i was kidding for the 100%

andi bdown iboss bhalissa bl ezamijiet

kollox jadi sihbi

To all, available from Clayton check it out here http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php?topic=1560.0

well done clayton! Can't wait till they are available to buy and try it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRg7RMaFRx4     another catch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rR2gFF-XPQ&feature=channel   

prosit guys....... tal genn... director ahjar andek bzonn al filming.... prosit eh, ta kiesah  ;D

ed titlob hafna sihbi

prosit nev kemm gew sbieh!

isma dak il plamtu .....minn gol port ta birzebbuga wiehed minnhom (iz-zghir)?

iva sihbi at 10:30 ta filodu misna

Xi gmiel ta hut minn gol-port. Prosit tassew.

prosit guys, ix xewqa tijej li xi darba naqbad wihed min fuq lart dawk minnom....

Sabih, prosit, plamtu ta veru...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCAqLbq8J60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArjZYH6gpf4

prosit guys,,, tjieb il filming  ;)

prosit very nice catches very well done. Just got it fom Mr Fish, now looking forward to give it a good try.

good luck my friend

the predapro rig is available just from mr fish now?

i think so.ask cla144 for more details my friend.

today went to mr fish and one of the employees said that predapro are available only on order for now. I contacted cla144 and am waiting for a reply.

Proset tal preda pro ax jien andi wahda u fl ewwel sajda tiji qbadt Dott.

prosit sihbi kont armat bic comb mela nahseb

Le ta siehbi bla comb.Abli inzertajta wkoll hux!!!!!

kont lucky mela xbin

dott fil wicc  ???

kif spjegali f pm mil qieh missitu ax waqaf bid dajsa u ilhuta lehqet nizlet mal qieh u kif saq misietu.

hekk hu neville kont wiqaf u ezatt kif bdejna mixjin hassejt gibda tajba u malli telajta sibt huta li kinet id DOTT.Abli vera kont lucky imma dan f kollox tidhol il luck hux

parir intik arma naqa bic comb u erga oqod dur fdik ilparti li qbadtu forsi ma tafx kif issib ihor.

nahseb issi adda naqa zmien u kien awn min kellu icans jipruva ilpredapro xi hadd kellu xi qabdiet bija?

jien ma nistax nsib nixtriha mort and mr fish u ma kellux baghat email lil neville u ma rrispondini qatt ma nafx kif ha nakkwistaha

skuzani sihbi ima il pc propja tohti u ma nohodix bi kbira li hasret xi emails >:(  suppost ilum kellu delivery mr fish skont cla144  http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php?topic=1829.msg22587;topicseen#new

ok nev jien hsibt li ma stajtx tibatli lura b xi mod thanks xorta man

no problem sihbi avzani kif bqajt.

xtrajta neville ghadni ma pruvajtiex imma.Hares x harira tuzaw fir reel u kemm tamluha hoxna? Tuzaw mono jew m hemmx bzonn u comb tamlu jew le? Speed kemm man thanks 1000 questions ?

jien bhalissa ed nuza 35 fir reel u wire rope bejn il predapro u il kulpara jew sunnara.comb gieli intuwa skond il misa. speed tista itija bejn 3-4 knots.il quddiem ha namlu video kif tiliska il huta maha.

thanks neville jigifieri ma tuzax fluoro u kummiedji

L-ahjar li tuza mill split rig ghal mas-sunnara huwa fluorocarbon ghal-bin-nhar u wire rope ghal bil-lejl. Tista tuza kulpara imma ara li ma tantx tkun kbira ghax inkella ma tantx tghum sew meta ttella speed ghal 4 knots.


Is-sunnara jew kulpara wahhala lejn (il-patata) tal-huta. Importanti li ma taghmilx wire rope fuq quddiem specjalment jekk tmur trejjex bin-nhar ghax il-hut jarah.


Hut li tista tuza huwa bejn 10 - 15 cm.


Tista tuza comba jew minghajr.

kemm tatuha qim mil qasba sal predapro lura?

gosti sihbi memx numri ta qami

ok thanks hafna nev

no problem sihbi

s sibt li ghadda rejjixt bil predapro b sawrell u anka b kurunella mit 8.30 am sas 1.00 pm ma mess xejn

Hawn man kif int?


Jien nahseb li kurunella zghira hafna ghaliha. Ma nafx ta ghax qatt ma pruvajtha. Il-harira tal-kulpara ma taghmilx effett ghax gieli qbadna lizzijiet f nofs inhar. L-importanti li l-harira tkun taht zaqqa u mhux stirata hafna. Jekk il-huta tkun izghar mil-harira ghamel harira izghar.

Int fejn mort trejjex? Is-sibt habib tieghi mar irejjex il-port il-kbir u l-istess ma hax messa. Qalli li kien hemm xi hamsa jrejxu u wiehed biss ra jtella wiehed. Ahna gieli morru rrejjxu fil-ghodu wkoll u gieli jmissna xi l-11.30 jew nofs inhar. Ahna pero lacci nuzaw.


Ghamiltilha comba fuq quddiem? Ghax matul il-gurnata l-hut jinzel iktar fil-qiegh. Ic-comba naghmluha xi 6 qami l-boghod minnha u nhallu xi 15 qama ohra wara c-comba.


Jekk ghandek xi mistoqsijiet ohra saqsi toqghodtx tiddejjaq.


Il-gurnata t-tajba.

le jien ghawdxi mort mix xatt sax xlendi u xejn jien amiltilha comba ta 100 grms tghid ftit man imma c comba amilta xi 20 qim wara l predapro. Cla l problema l andi hi li lacci mandekx cans li ssib ghawdex ax ikun hawn kaxxa jahtfuha tal knuz l ahhar li nbieghet 14 lira maltin temminni. Biex nista nilliska? Ax is sawrell rajta kbira al predapro.

Ifhem ahna gieli ghamilna 100 grms u qbadna xorta. L-ahjar ic-comba taghmilha xi 6 qami l-boghod halli iktar tinzel fil-qiegh. Vera l-lacci difficli biex issibha ghax malajr jehduha. Imma s-sawrella tajba wkoll ta ghax anke serra nqabad fuqha. Is-sawrella kemm kienet kbira mela?

Il-predapro li ghandek tiehu sizes bejn 10 - 15 cm max. Issa se jkolli predapro ikbar li tiehu minn 15 - 20 cm hut.

Hut li tista tuza huma bobin, vopi, sawrell, kavalli u lacci.


Jekk ghandek xi mistoqsijiet ohra ghidli toqghodtx tidejjaq.

ok cla thanks hafna ax hekk issa suppost naf x andi namel illejla ha ntiha go ohra issa naraw

Good luck mela siehbi.


Tinsiex speed tiha bejn 3 - 4 knots halli l-huta tghum iktar. Importanti li qabel titfaha ara kif qed tghum hdejn id-dghajsa. Imbaghad ighidli kif mort ta.


Cu man

hawn xi hadd li qabad bil predapro mhux gol portijiet ax l videos li ppostjajtu dejjem kontu tistadu go port.

Quote from: cla144 on November 26, 2008, 11:16:55 CET
Any feedback regarding the profile of the rig pls? I mean how does the rig look when mounted on the bait fish.

There is a picture of how it looks like.


Thanks :)

I think l may have missed something.....unfortunately l am unable to view the film clip at the start.

I may have a good use for this rig, as l spend lots of time stitching/rigging dead baits to swim or skip, for marlin fishing here. Can some one please tell me where l can see what this rig looks like..is there a link to the supplier/manufacturer available please

why dont u drop a PM to cla144 h is the manufacturer of the Predapro
he is a member of the forum twoutes

Thanks Shanook...l'm on to it.  8)