Can anyone onpass any info of how to rig up for tumbrell ???. I personally never fished for them before so do not even have a clue how to do the rigging.
just made rixa yesterday, hope for good weather to try it out.
items needed are:
.80 medda 20m
swievel heavy duty
200g comba addjustable
.60 tarf 30m which includes 12 white featered single hook lures 2 m apart each fergha 50cm long
10g weight added every 2 lures to have different depths.
to tie it on sufra , if lets say your retriving your line from left to right, when the fegha comes you hold the medda and put the fegha from right to left. in that manner when your trowing back at sea youl know which hook is next
i dont like your method of the way you positiond your lead pupu.
I have 2 tumbrell rigs, 1 with 30 (Made it last week still have not tried it) and another one with 38.
for you guys if you are using a 20 feather rig i would use this setup:
A lure in the beginning then 4 feathers and a 300g weight, another 5 feathers and a 200g weight another 5 feathers and a 100g weight (this can be changed to a 50g if the fish are biting at the surface) and then another 5 feathers. 4m away from the last feather attatch a heavy duty swivel and then le out another 30m.
Ps put swivels in between the weights.
Any more info contact me and we can also meet up and i can show you my rigs !
Bigboy good weight setup aldo its better from smallest weight to biggest since at the last rixa the rig is always getting higher(Going to boat) so it will need more weight..like 100g-150g-250g
that is the setup i always use lapsi ;) Anzi taf meta tlaqnija fil competition :P
Heq mela mux jin irhejta :P
so what your saying with regards to lead setup is 100g for lead closest to boat then 200 them 300g furthest away and another thing
why do you use swivel for the lead
Pupu you got it the wrong way because think...The closer line of the rig the boat the higher it will get...so the closer to the boat the heavier the lead ;)..Sort of like rixa for dentex
tistghu titfghu xi stampi kif tkun armata mqar fergha wahda ha nara r rixa kif tkun marbuta mal harira?
Translation: can you please post a picture, atleast showing how to attach the rig to the main line
Ok tini cans.
Ifimni Msell ma tantx em wisq xtara ax jin Norbot sunnara ma fera harira u narma ir rix fuq is sunnara (narmaha jin ir rixa). Imma nahseb meta tixtri ir rix at tumbrell ikunu rixa bil fera tkun parti mir rixa. Tfajt ritratt tar rixa.
This my dad made (without lead [Removed])30rix
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This I made (Has lead)20 rix
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Both are home made rix, Dont forget at the end put a bigger rixa Or even a spinner. Maybe a nice passer by will see it (Ive caught lots of kubrit even plamti and most times on the last one).These have caught fish ;)
Will post a photo of my 2 rigs tonight
goode method but i prefer if it is in maltese words
Joe as this thread started in English it has to continue in English, however I'm sure if you ask nicely one of the moderators will add a Maltese translation as well to the part that interests you.
I prefare to use a plastic basen to bring in the whole line. With this method the line keeps it format in a round form. Before each weight i put a piece od damp cloth, so I could place the weight on the cloth. Around the basen I attached a piece of artifical cork, so all the hooks will be fixed to it. I agree that at the end will be a bigger spinner as on this small swordfish was caught as well
Have to be carefull when bringing in the hooks as many a time a big fish attacks the lures, or a hooked fish while bringing the line in. This will unexpected pull the line out of your hands causing the hook just brought in to catch on your hands.
Using a piece of cork will save you your hands as you just let go.
Ones you get the hang of it, you can do like us and just place the lures one next to each other on the aft gunwale (poppa). Being wet out of the water they stick and stay in place. In an emergency you just let go.
good luck
Yes ramio 99.9% of the times that what i do in the excitment of the moment put them all on the bench neatly, It wouldnt be the first time that a swordfish or something big attacks the tumbrell since when they are caught and you are still moving they tend to be very good live bait ''literally''
u got that right Ramio, this rig the most dangerous and one has to know what he is doing beforegoing to fish for tumbrell
Personallu speaking, this method can be great fun because a nice ammount of fish can be caught, but once you get a nice catch...you just fill up the freezer and then why do you need more...and personally they arent the best eating fish because they have lots of blood (i know someone is going to say bleed them but it would be stupid to stay bleeding 50 600-1000gr tumbrelli , I can imagine lol) basically i store it and use it for knuz.
Home made rixa made of 37 rix
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Home made rixa made of 30 rix
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The way i attatch the rix to the main line
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Dan il bigboy king ar rixa lahwa jaf jarma =]....Imma aw bejnitna ma qbatx nofs li qbat jin dis sena :P
Translation :
Bigboy is the king of feather lures ppl, he know well how the rigging is done = ] .... But he didn't catch half the fish I caught :P
Isma naqra x qallek bigboy!!Dan minn hu ???Il king tal hut ???
Translation :
Check up what he told you bigboy !! Who's this ?? The king of fish ???
ijwa hijjos inti bdejt qabli hux :P ifhem sajda wahda adek amilt lol. Jien sissa mort 3 darbiet u lhaqtek ;) Imma ma li jmiss inbelhek sihbi :P
Translation :
Yes boss but you started fishing before I did :P You've still done 1 trip lol. I did 3 u managed to equalize ;) In my next one I'll leave you with you mouth open mate :P
Il king tal hut int imbad hux kev :P Mhux ekk jien narmalek u inti taqbad loool
Translation :
You're the king of fish kev :P I prepare the equipment and you catch all the fish loool
Prosit bigboy vera armati sbieh.
Translation :
Well done bigboy, really good rigging.
Prosit BigBoy x-rixa dik. li nkun jien zgur kobba wahda ngiba :o ;D
Translation :
Well done BigBoy, nice rigging. If it was mine I would tangle all of it :o ;D
Dik jin kiku mal christmas tree namila dak kemm hi sabiha :P
Translation :
If it was for me I would use it a Christmas Tree decoration :P
The title is in maltese skip so I think it should be in maltese.
L-isem tat-titlu bil-malti allura nahseb ahjar jekk tibqa bil-malti.
Pupu ,Bigboy ,Lapsiboy, Thanks for all the info with regards to the set up of the ( rixa tat tumbrell ) not sure what the exact word is in English. Multiple feather hook set up for Frigate Makarell is the closest I can explain in English. Big boy I might take advantage of your offer to meet up & show/explain to me how to actually fish with it ???. Altough I will not be making anything with more then 8 hooks.
Pupu ,Bigboy ,Lapsiboy, Grazzi ta l informazjoni fuq kif ghandi narma rix tat tumbrell. Big boy meta dan forsi nikuntatjak forsi torini /tispjegali kif ghandi nistad biha ??? . Gallkemm ma nahsibx li narma iktar mi 8 sunnariet.
Yes Spitec the title is in Maltese but Tatanka started it in English so we have to keep with the first post.
Translation done !
Chris 8)
jien ghadni gdid fil forum. ma tantx ilni diletant tas sajd. ha nsaqsi mistoqsija ta njorant. it tumbrell jista jinqabad mill art b qasba tar rill???? grazzi ta kollox {skuzawni jekk ghidt xi kummidja:P}
Translation :
I'm still new to this forum and even new to fishing but if may I ask an idiot question, frigate makarell can be caught from land by a rod and reel ???? Thanks { Sorry if I said a stupidity}
It is a little bit difficult but everything is possible my friend.
Mhux ekk =], Some day come with me from lapsi :P
It is very rare to hear that someone has caught a tumbrell from shore, but in Gozo around September a lot of kubrit and even a plamtu is being caught from shore. So it will not be a surprise if a tumbrell is caught as well
bigboy jien diga armajt xi 3 ohra bir rix ghat tumbrell u ma nistax naqbad wiehed imgiddem! Issa lbierah ghamilt ohra minflok rix biss ghamilt l klamar bir rix mixtri lest go fihom dawk li jkunu bir ras tal hadida biex nifthemu tghid tajba l klamar hallatthom u fl ahhar ghamilt klamar ahmar size ikbar tghid tajba? ghandi ukoll l grauvell cut bait bhal ta jonathan tghid naghmel lilha jew nerhi l klamar?
u dik x inhi li twahhal mal medda biex ma toqodx timbaram il harira tar rixa?
whats that u join to the main line so u wont have twists?
Dik roller swivel sihbi. Jin gili amilt rix ta ras tal hadid tajbin ukoll. Ha nejdlek it tumbrell jek ikun irid imiss uanke fuq bicca foil ma sunnara imis ;)
Thats a swivel my friend. I use the metal heads they are good as well. Let me tell u if the bullet tuna are feeding they will attach a piece of foil with the hook ;)
yesterday it was very good for tumbrell i got 70
goodjob Joe were u far out? Are the tumbrell keeping out or are they closer to shore
he caught them from the same area where i fish.
Joe and myself are very good friends and we are moored close to eachother in msida
very closer to shore
jien kelli narma ohra ax rbatt harira ma harira diretta u bdew jinbarmuli kolla.Issa s sibt mort and mr fish u xtrajt qishom beads hodor qalli jew tamel tnejn u bejniethom swivel zghir hafna iswed u jigri bejn zewg ghoqiedi kollox. Jien hallatthom bicca mir rix ghamiltu hekk u ohrajn ghamilt bead wahda u rbatt r rixa dirett maghha imbad tahbat mal ghoqiedi xorta. Tahseb li tikxef hekk? u l iswivel jikxef x tahsbu? Issa intom trejjxu l barra hafna mill blat u jaqaw kemm kemm titharrku tkunu jigifieri rimja ma jkun hemm kwazi xejn warajkom? U b magna inboard tikxef minhabba l hoss jaqaw? Bhalissa tajjeb ghalih jew mintomx taqbdu?
mangna inboard u outboard it tnejn jaghmlu hoss.... wahda l outboard qisha tisfira u l inboards iktar bhal faqqatura.(dejjem minn taht l ilma)
personalment nahseb inboards jaghmlu inqas hoss
magna mux satgamel diferenza tumbrell jhek ikun hem imishek fuq kollox maghandekx ghalfejn tghamell hafna pepeti ma rixa ghanke jheek torbot il meda u fera flimkin tghjeb xorta jina hekk qiad qad mgha kelli problemi
Mhux kemm jaghmlu hoss imma jidependi kemm jitfa kurrent l-iskrun. Jidependi wkoll kemm ikollok comb u rix fuq idejk u tluq tal medda.
proset mulett75
il propellor gieli nnutajtu li jattira cetu hut bhal tunnag u kubrit...
Jien gili meta ma jkunx irid jiftah halqu naqtalu l gass kollu al ftit. Inhalli r rixa taqa l isfel umbad naqlalu wahda tajba u nhallilu dik ir rima u mallewwel jahtafa. Jien personalment narma bil beads imma ma namilx swivels u kumidji. U jekk jejdu li t tumbrell jikxfek mhu veru xejn ax jin ic comb 2 qami bod mir rix ikun u jmiss fejn ic comb
thanks hbieb, bigboy jien kelli namel swivels zghar bejn zewg beads ax xhin amilt bead wahda xhin dahhalt l harira tar rixa ukoll ma bdietx timxi sew qisha mwahhla qed tifhem.
Din is-sajda ghat-tumbrell qed tinteressani hafna. Tafu min fejn nista nixtri rixa lesta b'xi 30-40 rixa, jekk joghgobkom? Nirringrazzjakom bil-quddiem.:)
Translation:
This type of fishing interests me a lot. Do you know from where I can find an already made rig with 30-40 lures? Thanks a lot.:)
Nahseb Ta' Bormla hdejn il-knisja tal-Mosta ghandu.
Grazzi hafna benri.
rixa ghat-tumbrell roza jew bajda l-ahjar?
@ russet sent u msg.
@bertu...Jien dejjem uzajt rixa bajda tan nylon u hajta hamra maghha. Pero kien jkolli sofor wahda kull 10 u xi wahda hamra u hadra Lhemm u lhawn
@ russet ma edtilniex jekk mortx Jew xghamilt man....staqsejt u insejtna ?????
Ha mmur ghand Ta' Bormla xi darba din il-gimgha. Bhalissa ghandi x'naghmel minhabba l-ezamijiet peress li ghadni l-iskola.
Aaaaa.lewwel listuju man. Good luck u prosit
Thanks :)
lisbah rixa tal big boy ghall vetrina proset big
Bongu! Qed nilghab b'rixa ta tlett snannar biex nibda - jista jghidli xi hadd kemm trid taghmel ic comba il fuq min l-ewwel sunnara? Qisu ghama x 2 ?
U speed ta xi 3knots ftit wisq?
grazzi
Quote from: bahri on January 21, 2016, 08:55:40 CET
Bongu! Qed nilghab b'rixa ta tlett snannar biex nibda - jista jghidli xi hadd kemm trid taghmel ic comba il fuq min l-ewwel sunnara? Qisu ghama x 2 ?
U speed ta xi 3knots ftit wisq?
grazzi
Ir-rix tat-tumbrell,missoltu naghmluhom qama u nofs il-bod minn xulxin. Issa int qed 'tilghab' b'rixa ta 3 snanar. Jien nghidlek ic comba ghamila bejn l-ewwel u t-tieni sunnara. Bhala speed, mqarr 3.8 to 4knots. Bhalissa hemm missa tat-tunbrell.
Bongu u grazzi tar risposta.
Iva ir rixa li ghandi hija bit tlieta - tista tghidli xi kemm piż ic comba?
Il-bierah mort ghand hanut tas sghid u kellu rix lesti b'20 sunnara b' Eur40, 15 xi Eur35, 10 Eur10 - dak huwa il prezz tas suq ghax rajthom naqa gholjhin?
Hawn xi hadd li ibiegh il ferh biss?
Il bierah hright siegha maz zubrun u ma qbajt xejn imma hafna il barra kien hemm nahseb 60 daghjsa ghat tumbrell!
grazzi
Li nista nofrielek huwa dan; Ghada ejja sa L-Isla hden il-hnejja resturant jew Marshall pizzerija, ikun hemm ahna id-dilettanti, staqsi ghal lis-scotch (jien) u nurik kif taghmel xlief tat-tumbrell. Ejja ghal xi 10am, hemm inkunu ahna.
skuzani imma is sibt kont xoghol! Kul nhar sibt tkunu hemm?
Iva ta, ejja ix-xatt ta' l-Isla
Qed nithajjar naghmel rixa tat-tumbrel jekk forsi tistghu tghinuni.Ir-rixa kemm trid tigi twila bejn wiehed u iehor u snanar bhala size liema pls?L-ewwel torbtu s sunnara qabel tibda taghmel r rix jew l ewwel tlesti r rixa u x rabta tuzaw biex torbtu s snanar pls l loop knot?Bhala harira x numru pls 35 , 40?U x kuluri ta rix l ahjar thallat?
Kulhadd jistad qieghed possibli?
Jien narma hekk..................rixa wahda fit tarf umbad comba 5 metri il fuq. Umbad comba kull 6 rixit. 4 metri bejn rixa u ohra. Xlif 45. meda 70mm.
tx redhead u snanar x kobor tuza?u r rixa xi kemm tigi kbira fuq s sunnara tibqa hierga sew l barra mid dawra tas sunnara?Xi hadd iehor?
msell mil ftit esperjenza li qandi meta mort ma sihbi ghalih is-sunnara daqs tal-lampuki ta'settemrbu xi daqs 9 u ir-riza tibqa hirga daqs id-dopju tas-sunnara
tx for your reply ax jien bzajt li jekk tigi r rixa ftit twila zzejjed mis sunnara jmissek u ma jehilx imma mid dehra jibla mela
hawn xi hadd iehor?
Hi! I have a 5 hook rixa tat tumbrell which originally had a small weight (fit tond zghir qisu tal qieh) which I changed to a rapala type lure - is this recommended for tumbrell or should I replace with a rixa and have the weight further up?
use a large rixa at the end or a klamar tal lampuki and attach a 250g weight at the end of the rix
will do thank you. how much distance between the end weight and the rixa. So rixa at the very end and then weight followed by the rest of the other hooks?
6 qami each side
grazzi!
mela qed nieghdu xi haga hekk:
(rixa bil klamar ta lampuki) ---- (6qami)---- (comba 250g) ----(6qami) ---- (rixa1 tumbrell) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa2) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa3) --- etc
Quote from: bahri on July 27, 2016, 08:26:54 CET
grazzi!
mela qed nieghdu xi haga hekk:
(rixa bil klamar ta lampuki) ---- (6qami)---- (comba 250g) ----(6qami) ---- (rixa1 tumbrell) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa2) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa3) --- etc
bhalissa mhux nisma b tumbrell guys - mhux zmienu...
Iva mhux zmien it tumbrell bhalissa - is sena l-ohra taghna hafna gost ghal l-ahhar ta Settembru / bidu ta Ottubru!
How much distance between the last rixa and the boat pls? Tks
Hello! can anyone tell me which is a correct setup please for a rixa tat tumbrell?
Should the weight be before the hooks like option2?
option1
(rixa bil klamar ta lampuki) ---- (6qami)---- (comba 250g) ----(6qami) ---- (rixa1 tumbrell) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa2) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa3) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa4) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa5) --- <? how much> ---- BOAT
option2
(rixa bil klamar ta lampuki) ---- (rixa1 tumbrell) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa2) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa3) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa4) --- (1.5qami) ---- (rixa5) --- (6qami)---- (comba 250g) ----(6qami) <? how much> ---- BOAT
grazzi
rixa bil klamar--- 3 qami----- comba 50g----3 qami--- (nofs kemm ha jkollok rix gifiri jekk rixa b 20 mela 10 rixiet kull qama u nofs) 3 qami comba 200g----- (in nofs l ihor tar rix) 3 qami comba 300 jew 350g-----20 qama u idejk
grazzi hafna ta lis spejgazzjoni car hafna.
Quote from: gentedimare on December 26, 2016, 13:53:26 CET
rixa bil klamar--- 3 qami----- comba 50g----3 qami--- (nofs kemm ha jkollok rix gifiri jekk rixa b 20 mela 10 rixiet kull qama u nofs) 3 qami comba 200g----- (in nofs l ihor tar rix) 3 qami comba 300 jew 350g-----20 qama u idejk
Ir-rix taghilhom inti jew nixtrihom lesti? Hemm xi tipp jew hanut partikolari?
dejjem jien amiltu