What is the best rod for surfcasting, a telescopic one or there is a special model?
Go to a fish shop tell him to give you a beachcasting rod and you will see it, actually they are long telescopic rod (+-4metres) wich have a high casting weight limit.
Best rod would be a 2 piece 4mtr+ These rods are specially designed to achieve maximum casting distance, however I have yet to see any in malta, I used them in Italy and there is a big difference between a 2 piece and a telescopic. However if you are only begining in surfcasting, you should look at a telescopic rod longer than 4mtr with a casting power ranging from 150-300grms. Imo one of the best rods are the fly hulk series, they are a bit costy and not sure if they make them any more but there should be another model that replaced them.
I bought a very good one for about 70-80Euros From Mr.Fish, it is a DIP beachcasting rod (I use it for spinning ::))
I bought mine a few years back... they're all telescopic and the range is of 80g-120 g. I don t think u would need anything that casts heavier weight though.... all u need is a strong shock leader and u can use thinner lines.... and i still fish in rough sea conditions.
The system fortuna uses is very good for this type of fishing and you can surely cast a very long way out even with an 80-100gram weight.He thought me how to fish that way although I don't do surfcasting very often.
Hi all tnks for the valuable information, i appriciate.
just one hint as a starter. telescopic rods are toys if you intend to do real surf casting. what many ppl in this forum practice is beach ledgering, which is done in clearer seas. i have a particular telescopic rod which i caught a lot of fish with but it always seemed to suffer with large fish. also to note the arid environment the sea and sand offers, and for this reason, a folding telescopic rod is just a nice toy, good for a beginner but bad for durability.
however, it is to note that 3 piece rods, which are the rods you should go for if you want a piece rod(forget 2 piece, they are not for malta too stiff) and no rod shall be of more than 150 grams casting weight.
real surf casting is done in rough force 4/5/6/7 weather. to note it is not the simplest of all techniques. you need to stand extreme cold, heavy rain, the wave that tries to get all your equipment and even sleep. i fairly know how to fish with excellent success to catch in malta, but it would be healthier for you to explore it by yourself, just like we did for the past years
also beware, mostly this technique is done at night, i can tell you from my recent experience that it is exhausting and beware if driving back home. last december i had a major traffic accident[aka the Mitsubishi pickup traffic accident in burmarrad on the 21st dec] after a night surfcasting with good results but good results need patience, and a lot of it. it is easy to get carried away but no fish is worth your life. i am quite paying the consequences now. everyone talks about fishing but think of other aspects as well. also always go with a buddy, never go alone so you stay in charge in turns
i suggest to mix this technique with camping, good results need long time of patience and dedication and at this time of the year, the surf casting will be sensibly decreasing unless you know the good areas very well. i am cutting back on this technique, it is something i did for the recent years and i will continue to do but to my misfortune, also happened to taste its dangers.
What kind of fish do you target than granitu?
surf casting normal bream normally but i had good results on pelagic fish this year too. also once encountered a morina too which i don't know from where it came
for beach ledgering the tasty mingus and awrat, the wild solitary ones
i hate to take photos however, i am no photogenic person and hate to bluff. i fish for fun and maybe get a dinner fish to share with good friends. with regards to success, that is the truth nearly never i left empty handed, with a good hand i mean a dinner fish or more. compared to some ppl i know who question surf casting, i consider myself more fortunate
Interesanti...Granitu tista tispjegali naqa ahjar is SURF Casting Ghax interesanti jideher 10x
Interesting...Granti can you explain to me better SURF Casting because it seems interesting.
it is essentially just beach ledgering but with different variants which light equipment does not stand. it can be clearly distinguished from the fish you get
if you take the surf word, see other sports, surfing on a board, kite surfing, you get to know they clearly have a common conception, wind.
essentially, save for exceptions, mingus is a beach ledgering catch, bream(sargi) is the surf casting catch. i will leave the rest for you to discover, you are using the internet and there is a whole load of information out there, don't expect spoon feeding, read and learn lapsi boy ;) :-*.
I normally do ledgering and get mostly imniges and not that frequently an awrat or a sargu but never seen any pelagic fish being caught in that way.I thought you were targeting some type of ray!
for rays all you need is a vopa, cut its head to bleed it and a normal beach ledgering rig at ghadira. and if you are lucky you wll find one.
i don't consider ray as fish however and even though i don't like their taste
pelagic i always caught it during surf casting session and the awrat, especially the wild one is getting more scarce and shy than ever
I wish to try and catch a nice ray to see what type of fight it gives when you try to bring it in.The only once I caught were small stingrays and they don't give a good fight.I will try to fish with a whole vopa this coming summer to try my luck.
yep good luck mate hope i bring you the luck to fulfill your wish. rays are essentially scavengers, that is the reason to cut the head, to kill it, you can also fillet it if you wish but than you could need to use the elastic line
also it could work for gringu or conger eel? and tracni but the 2 bite nearly on anything
The only way I tried was with kurunella but it's small maybe that's why I only caught small ones and once I caught a very nice conger eel from ghadira but I will try as you told me.Thanks for the advise.
Dear Spitec,
A nice sized ray can give a massive challenge they are extremely difficult to haul back
Sometimes i stingray makes me swear because it gives a big fight and can be seen white from the bottom. Hoping it is a dentex :P
Or on swordfish lonlines, after maby 3 hours of hauling you think you have a fish and you find a FU**ING ray lol... normally i beat the sh*t out of it so it lets go of the hook. Believe me it's the best sollution! you wouldnt want it to sting you in the middle of knowhere + they are known to be lethal!
Dear Bigboy and Lapsi,
I think that them and a turtle are two of the most difficult to haul in especially on long lines. (i know turtles are illegal to catch and this is why thy are either released or taken for treatment.)
Sometimes rays give you a hard time and they are extremelt dangerous.
Mellieha
You made my wish to catch one on rod and reel greater. :o
Actually turtles we dont harm them but cut the hook of (Dont worry it falls of easily since their mouth is al catrlidge) But rays they are good for nothing and there are sooo many ! sometimes we catch more than 40
someone mentioned surf casting in summer. but where could you possibl go surfcasting in summer with all the bbqs, parties etc that are held?
You would have gotten another smite for beating up a fish lapsi, if it was still on. On a serious note tough dont u think a ray is more worth than a hook ?
@malliaa.You can go during the week,not weekend and you find places everywere.
what size of hooks do u use for surf casting and what bait do u prefer
On a serious note tough dont u think a ray is more worth than a hook ?
To tell you the truth not really, They are like pests to me (Like flies). I dont know why they keep coming man!!, freeman all the fisherman i know always kill them it may sound sad but theres just so many!! like overpopulated...I try not to kill them but we cant waste time on such things when working, and i wouldnt wont to get hurt by trying to release it
Im talking about (BONN)
The hook sizes depend on the fish you are targeting and as bait I use mainly live shrimps,when I manadge to catch some.
tnks SPITEC i was planning on going tomorrow morning and use hniex korean
I prefer going at night but you may find an awrat running about.Goodluck
tnks, for the tips, id love to go at night but tomorrow ill be having my girlfriend with me and she want to go in the morning (pacenzja hehehehehe)
hehe girlfriends always bring luck when go fishing at least you will always have somthing to catch for sure ;D ;D ;D ::)
le hi aktar lucky minni ma nidejjaqx tigi miei
Be carefull mate she might catch you
Quote from: LapsiBoy on February 19, 2009, 15:49:12 CET
On a serious note tough dont u think a ray is more worth than a hook ?
To tell you the truth not really, They are like pests to me (Like flies). I dont know why they keep coming man!!, freeman all the fisherman i know always kill them it may sound sad but theres just so many!! like overpopulated...I try not to kill them but we cant waste time on such things when working, and i wouldnt wont to get hurt by trying to release it
I m talking about (BONN)/quote] why don t you just cut the line and release them its a shame you kill them to throw them away
The bloody bonnijeit are the only thing that i hate whilst longlining for swordfish.
Kif nara l voltigga mamula nejd ejja gej wihed umbad inzib bon gggggrrrrrrrrrr.
Btw when you know that you will be fishing without getting a bit its important to take the gf with you :P At least you can catch something haha........Tifmux hazin ta looooool
lol bigboy pay attention to bonn they are dangerous ehh
taking your girlfriend fishing.... i think in an arid surfcasting night she can raise the soldier's morale...lol :P
hey guys was watching the forecast for next weekend and seems to be good....was willing to give beachcasting a try....does anyone know if it can be productive this time of year ??????
10x ;)
Qatt ma pruvajt dawn iz-zminijiet jien siehbi pero mint se titlef xejn billi tiprova wahda ;)
le dik dejjem spitec ;) jien niehu cans umbad naraw...laqwa li nkun al kwiet jien ;)
Mela l-importanti li tkun relax u ghall-kwiet.Tarmax ohxon siehbi.
tinsiex erba birra rammx :P
imnballa fakkartni ara :P
gejjin mieghi jew? forsi naqtaw xi success iehor? lol
Hehe :P
ma nistax king ghax hireg flaxija u il hamis skola :s
Guys, Is this weather good for surf/beachcasting at ghadira. there will be a force5 wind from the west which means from the back.
According to granitu till force 7 is good so 4/5 from the back would be good i gues, there will still be the sea running up and down the sand since the wind has been turning.
hope the wind put the indicators on whilst turning :P
Mhux tad dahq rammx :p
grigal trid hemm lapsi
Bit temp kif inhu malta hawn ximkien tajjeb? hu kif inhu jek tmur lghadira mandek cans taqbad xejn?
Liska lahjar ta lamerican u bibi ?? tal korea jew ta limperjal tajjeb?
mort jew tiehu cans lapsiboy?
morna ta, kwazi kif wasalna qbat mengus sabih, umbad qbadna xi 5 undersize u tlaqnijom u hin minhom tbelahna, sihbi il lexxun kien qieghed itela biex jara naqa il liska uekk fdaqqa wahda il qasba titaweg u jibda hireg drag!!! u rajnija icafcaf il huta zgur kinet fuq iz zewg kilos zgur !! ghax qieghed nejdlek gibdet daqs monstru !! u kif kinet 10 metri il boghod inqata il main. :(:(
Umbad wara qbadna xi 6 imniges zaghar ohra u sawrella qabad il lexxun kbira.
hawn qabda sawrell qishu, sinjal li ma sabx x jikkacjah
Jin tbelaht bdik il huta li messitu il lexxun, jin nehlef li serra kinet imma ma nistax nghid...gbid ta huta kien ghax il qasba bdit icaqcaq mhux bic cajt bqajna imbelhin...kiku telaha jahasra :(
mela hadtu sija pjacir.. :) issa la jibdew il vaganzi ma tantx jkun postu s surfcasting....
serra ma tantx hi ta bhalissa lapsi fir ramel jista jkun ikollkhom nzertaturi hekk bhalissa kommuni ghax hafna mil hut pelagiku jidhol ibejjet
pero daqt jaqta issa ghax il bajjiet malta ikunu disturbati wisq
ma tkunx armata aliha mhux ha ttellaha insija serra sniena jaqtaw wisq
Veru infatti uanke ilbierah kien em xi 3 bbq's ....rammx ejja ha niftemu wahda imorru insibu post sura ta animal ;)
Mela xjista ikun kient Ganitu ??? Jien adili min mohhi gringu imma il qasba xhin bdejt naraha tatti edt zgur mux gringu!...u huta kbira kinet man ghax veru bqajna imbelhin..kellu id drag iebes u beda idawwar fil vojt ghax ma bditx tiela...Jin ghalija serra ghax ma tantx hemm izjed hut ta dak il gbid
ijja ta andi bzonn sajda tajba :) postijeit ma tantx aw :/
gringu meta jfettilu jati sew ta... gieli jghatu glieda tajba meta jkunu ta certa daqs
kurzita ...ma kontx qed tuza t tumbrell ux?
Le ta fuq il bibi misset il huta. Xhin qatet ......DAGHAAAAAAAA!
ghandi amment x jigifieri :-X :-\ :'( :o ;D ...u ijja tkun darbohra :P
Granitu jekk ikolli imur u nihu qasba niliskaha bil liska naqa kbira hemm cans li naqbad xi huta pelagica?? jin nahseb bil haj ic cans li hemm..
bhalissa biex tinzerta xi strilja kbira ma trid xej jidhol fil bajjiet
jaf kienet serra mic catti imma difficli issa fadallu ftit dak
m ghandikx bzonnu d dagha l apsi qbadtu xi haga
haj bilfors bhalissa xbin u l liska qabbila mal hut li hemm fil post bhalissa
Granitu ilbierah qbadna xi 10 imnieges kolla taht 10cm tlaqnijom kollha alavolja nidghu xorta niprovaw nibzaw al bahar. 2 hutiet biss hadna id dar... imma hekk forsi jikbru naqa limniges u naqbduwom kbar u jilhqu ibidu u ikolna al sena ohra :P
sinjal li ma sibtx s shoal sewwa lapsi
Tinsewx il regolamenti 'l godda tal qisien tal hut
Ghal daz zmien tahseb jaqbili namel xi wahda fuq ir ramel.....u xi xlief tahsbu andi nuza???
Ghadu kmieni hafna ......
Quote from: philipvella on September 19, 2011, 13:42:58 CET
Ghal daz zmien tahseb jaqbili namel xi wahda fuq ir ramel.....u xi xlief tahsbu andi nuza???
jekk inti trid taghmel surfcasting propja u kif suppost fadallek ftit x'tistenna....
jekk trid taghmel ftit beach casting jew beach ledgering tista tipprova.... taf tinzerta xi awrata sabiha ddur.