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Boat Fishing in Malta => Offshore & Coastal Boat Fishing => Bottom Fishing => Topic started by: shanook on March 31, 2009, 21:07:26 CET

Title: Fish Finder??
Post by: shanook on March 31, 2009, 21:07:26 CET
I would like to have some information on fishfinders for deep drop fishing. Of course it has to be the miraculous type that is cheap, deep seeing, clear imagining etc.
What depth should I be looking at?
Transom, in hull or thru hull, flush type transducer?
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I got into this dilemma as I was told by a seller that the digital hummingbird with a 600w transom mount transducer can see 2500'. I was always with the impression that one would need a 1Kw transducer.

Thanks guys

Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: bigboy on March 31, 2009, 21:11:12 CET
If you are looking for a good Sonar shanook for deep drop i would keep in mind Foruno and Lawrance.

As for a transducer the best solution is a thru hull transducer with its power vareeing between 800 to 1200W.
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: ganni on April 01, 2009, 22:17:28 CET
a 1kW transducer is reccomended for deep dropping however i have no experience in this area.  there are also the north star with some good models
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: dintex on April 02, 2009, 07:55:47 CET
Hello everybody , I am new on the forum but not so new in spearfishing and sportfishing trolling , I need some help , does anyone have a Lorenz Compact 7
Sun Color GPS , fishfinder . ? it take C-MAP card. I need to check weather the card or the unit is faulty , Just got it from Lorenz Italy , ( upgrading unit & map )
but Unit is not reading map. would like to try my new C-MAP on other gps please .
Title: Re: Fsihfinder??
Post by: EmicMalta on April 02, 2009, 08:11:04 CET
heard that same map goes even with garmin modles. is it true?
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: Granitu on April 02, 2009, 09:52:26 CET
dintex, have you activated the map?? it needs to be activated more than once, for security reasons
Title: Re: Fsihfinder??
Post by: dintex on April 02, 2009, 16:43:32 CET
Granitu .activated the map?? dont understand ? I had this unit for a few years now .and it worked quite good .  When i send it to Lorenz company Italy , they told me that they have upgrate it to morden system . i would think that you only have to insert the c-map card and it should show you the mapchart automatic . dont understand activated the map?? .
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: Granitu on April 02, 2009, 17:30:07 CET
i am not familiar with your model, but the h20 model i used to import had a function of activation.

make sure it is compatible with the model you have

if it is, i presume it is an activation issue. can you connect the gps with a pc??
do you have a kind of product key with the card? i am guessing by trial and error my friend
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: LapsiBoy on May 26, 2009, 18:19:11 CET
Guys im about to buy another fishfinder for my baby boat :P Where i go fishing i.e From gnejna lapsi etc.. it gets quiet deep very quickly.....I have a garmin 160c on mind with a Power output: 150 watts (RMS), 1200 watts (peak to peak)
and a Maximum depth:     900 ft .
I realized that little fishfinders skip the 900 ft depth range ...or maybe i havent discovered some others...
What do you think about the Garmin 160c and do you have any recomendations from experience.
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: bigboy on May 26, 2009, 18:21:43 CET
ixtri furuno mil ebay 400 EUR. 400-500m
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: LapsiBoy on May 26, 2009, 18:32:19 CET
Mhux kelma hazina kiku.....

# Seven depth scales, from 0-10 to 0-640 feet
# Depth offset to 1,500 feet, maximum depth scale of 3,000 feet

- Does that mean it is capable of reading a maximum of 3000 feet?
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: bigboy on May 26, 2009, 18:42:20 CET
ezatt
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: bigboy on May 26, 2009, 18:51:10 CET
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FURUNO-LS4100-TM-FISHFINDER-5MONO-LCD-50-200KHZ-300WATT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1121Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q3a6Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem45e6b40477QQitemZ300223300727QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: TaKinu on May 26, 2009, 23:05:43 CET
From USA tehel id-dazju siehbi! Xorta jaqbilek imma...
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: Moonwalker on May 27, 2009, 00:40:16 CET
Forget it the depth of 3000ft. Neighter with 1kW you can see 3000ft figure out with 300W. you will see up to about 400m(not always possible - depends on sea conditions) with 300W transducer.
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: guido99 on May 27, 2009, 16:41:45 CET
@Shanook if you are looking for a real fishfinder  go for a Furuno fcv 585 or else a koden equivalent, cost is  approx $1300 for the unit and another $750 for the right transducer (Airmar m260, b260) , also factor in shiiping ( circa $100 )  + local charges = vat @18 percent minimum on cost + shipping. Just my $.02
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: shanook on May 27, 2009, 18:49:31 CET
guido what depth will I get with a 1kw transducer and the furuno 585

Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 27, 2009, 18:59:57 CET
Tony, with a 1kw trasducer you should be alright for 1,000mtrs+.  I have the Furuno 420 with a 600W Transducer and I can pick up the seabed clearly at 650/700mtrs. Deeper then that and the F/F gets intermittant signals.  Also, you can maximise by switching to manual and playing around with the gain button. 
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: shanook on May 27, 2009, 19:09:50 CET
(Opps sorry) Joe, do u get to know the type of bottom with the 600W at 700mtrs, or just the depth reading. I dont expect that the transducer 600w can see fish at those depths, but if it can show u the seabed if rocky or sandy at those depths its more than enough.
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 27, 2009, 19:26:59 CET
Tony, sorry for the mistake in the model.  Its a furuno FCV620.   The fishfinder is rated at 800mtrs maximum, but I've never got a depth reading beyond 700mtrs.  I can however pick up the seabed conditions (sandy or rocky) at 650mtrs and any fish, structures when I zoom in on the seabed.  This particular model has the zoom in feature.  Also, I quite enjoy the digital feature this model has, which helps adjust gain, STC clutter and output power as this allows for a clearer picture which is easier to dicipher due to the filtering capabilites as well as the gain adjustments. 
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: guido99 on May 27, 2009, 22:07:54 CET
The Furuno fcv 585 is a 1kw unit and has a max depth of 800m (this is really dependant on choice of transducer and proper installation), the best transducer you can get for the unit is the Airmar m260 for an in hull installation or the b260 for a thru hull, however the thru hull involves fitting a massive fairing block of about 22" in lenght, not too many of us fancy sticking something that resembles a 22" model boat to our hull.
Specs are same for both transducers. Pdf data sheets attached, depths quoted in data sheets are quite conservative.
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: LapsiBoy on May 28, 2009, 09:03:06 CET
I think 800 metres is more than enough even 600, I mean if an electric reel doesnt reech those depths and you dont have a winch its nearly impossible to get something out of that depth. But still once you buy something it will be there.
I was going to buy the furuno, but what i dont get is. they tell you they reach a max depth of say 1500metres but the trancducer is only rated for 300 metres. Maybe they mean to say that they can take a trancducer of max 1500 metres?
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 28, 2009, 09:51:05 CET
Agreed guido99.  I have the airmar b260 thu hull with the blue aircraft carrier (fairing block) attached to the bottom of the hull.  My only complaint with this massive fairing block is when I'm either pulling or launching the boat from the road trailer.  One needs to be careful not to strike the fairing block with the trailer sides that stabilise the boat!!!
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: busumark on May 28, 2009, 13:27:43 CET
the new lowrance hds are broadband fishfinders and with a 600w you are supposed to see 1000 mtrs to the limit. and with a 1 kw u see 1500 mtrs.
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: skip on May 28, 2009, 15:10:24 CET
Hmm I have the 527c with the 600W transducer, its basically the same model as the HDS 5 and I can't say that I can see down to 1000m at 50Hz
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: fishfinder on May 28, 2009, 16:10:02 CET
I bought the HDS5 and Simon from Caruana Marine Centre told me that it should read up to 800metres with the normal transom mount transducer.
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: skip on May 28, 2009, 20:40:03 CET
Maybe need to clarify that the transducer I have is the std transom mount unit that came with the Lowrance kit. Not an aftermarket Airmar or similar.

I believe but will have to double check that I was in around 500m of water at 50Hz and didn't get a depth signal
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: shanook on May 29, 2009, 20:45:11 CET
I just got the HDS5 gps/sounder........ When I try it out will let u know........
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: Moonwalker on May 29, 2009, 21:36:56 CET
With the best 1kW transducer you can read only up to 700-800m in sea water. Take note that some suppliers give range of fresh water not sea water which has much less penetration.
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: busumark on May 30, 2009, 09:18:07 CET
my friend a furuno about 10 years old a very big unit like a tv. i dont know how much is the transducer is strong but we read depths of 850 metres
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: Moonwalker on May 30, 2009, 09:45:28 CET
Furuno have some powerfull units for commercial fishermen with 2kW or 3kW transducers.
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: qazqaz on September 26, 2009, 15:09:54 CET
andi bzonn fishfinder eagle cuda242 ax dawk l aqwa pls kelmuni jekk tafu bxi wiehed al bejgh 10x

I need a fishfinder eagle cuda242 as they are the best please talk to me if you know of one for sale
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: ganni on September 27, 2009, 13:42:01 CET
@ qazqaz

pls stick to the language rule!!
and i dont think that eagle cuda 242 is the best fish finder on the market, as far as i know it is the lowest range of the eagle/lowrance fish finders  :-\

Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: Perla 165 on September 28, 2009, 21:02:59 CET
hbieb... ha saqsikol xi haga lahwa.. andi koden ( min ta simon ) qijad ifanad 320 suppost.. izda xhin naqbes il 153 mtrs jaqta ma jibqax itini fond. listampa ok jibqa jaqra il qih.. klx lix ifem imma ax nahseb il qih lix fjn kont. xtahsbu hsara jew xi setting? qed ned lilkom ax forsi em xi setting.. qabel ma ninzel and lagent. 10q

translate
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: bigboy on September 28, 2009, 22:15:49 CET
berrttttt :P issa gibu inwahluh u nisetjahhulek. dak il fishfinder andom xeba settings
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: domfalzon on March 19, 2012, 22:52:20 CET
Ghandi GPS Fishfinder Lowrance HDS-5 bi SD card chart Navionics Platinum 33p+ xtrajtu min l'America.Jista xi hadd jurini jew ifhemni kif inhaddmu?
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: Swordfish on March 19, 2012, 23:59:43 CET
Quote from: domfalzon on March 19, 2012, 22:52:20 CET
Ghandi GPS Fishfinder Lowrance HDS-5 bi SD card chart Navionics Platinum 33p+ xtrajtu min l'America.Jista xi hadd jurini jew ifhemni kif inhaddmu?

Prosit, sabieh u fish finder tajjeb u zgur li hadtu hafna irhas min li kieku xtrajtu min malta. Li jkollu differenti zgur temp, metric measures etc U.S standard pero tidrom.

Manual hemm suppost u mportanti li taqrah ax jekk le titlef hafna mil potenzjal tijaw...

http://www.lowrance.com/Downloads/Manuals/

www.lowrance.com/en/Products/Marine/HDS-High-Definition-System/HDS-5-FishfinderGPS-Chartplotter/Downloads/HDS-5-Operations-Guide---English/

www.lowrance.com/en/Products/Marine/HDS-High-Definition-System/HDS-7-FishfinderGPS-Chartplotter/Downloads/HDS-7-Quick-Start-Guide/
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: makku on March 20, 2012, 09:52:16 CET

Quote from: domfalzon on March 19, 2012, 22:52:20 CET
Ghandi GPS Fishfinder Lowrance HDS-5 bi SD card chart Navionics Platinum 33p+ xtrajtu min l'America.Jista xi hadd jurini jew ifhemni kif inhaddmu?

kemm gew jiswek ic charts 33p+ habib?
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: domfalzon on March 21, 2012, 00:18:21 CET
Thankyou ta dawk il links li baghtli u x'hin ikolli cans naghmel id download.Regward il prezz jien kont xtrajtom min ebay f'Awissu ta sena l'ohra is seller kien min Gersy (Isl of Man) The Bits Trading Group limited u il prezz b'kollox kien ta 335 Euros jien meta iccekajt ghaw Malta kienet 475Euros
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: Swordfish on March 21, 2012, 10:17:00 CET
Quote from: domfalzon on March 21, 2012, 00:18:21 CET
il prezz b'kollox kien ta 335 Euros jien meta iccekajt ghaw Malta kienet 475Euros


Ostra.. Jien rajthom 449 usd[338eurs] online igifieri min malta kwazi 150 eurs iktar gholja... 
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: Granitu on March 21, 2012, 14:09:41 CET
habib bilfors irhas ax isle of Man emm l option ta BVI companies.

Dawn ma jhallsux VAT u taxxa.

Allura:-

Mill prezz ta 475/118 * 100 = eur 405

Minn Eur 405, mill profitt, trid taqta 35% corporation tax.

emm qieghda d differenza, l-istat.

Isle of man dejjem irhas ha jkunu
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: domfalzon on March 21, 2012, 15:42:11 CET
Hawn habbib ma naf jekk hadtux il messag da id download Ok tal Lowrance HDS-5,Jekk trid niltaqghu ibaght email fuq l'email adress unispjegalek ahjar
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: kit029 on March 31, 2012, 10:01:25 CET
awn xi hadd jaf bxi site tajba min fejn nista nixtri gps/fishfinder.10x
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: The_Gaffer on March 31, 2012, 15:02:48 CET
Quote from: kit029 on March 31, 2012, 10:01:25 CET
awn xi hadd jaf bxi site tajba min fejn nista nixtri gps/fishfinder.10x

Minn barra: www.mesltd.co.uk

Minn Malta: Caruana marine centre - agent for Lowrance
Title: Re: Fish Finder??
Post by: malvizzu on April 01, 2012, 12:29:40 CET
Quote from: domfalzon on March 21, 2012, 00:18:21 CET
... il prezz b'kollox kien ta 335 Euros jien meta iccekajt ghaw Malta kienet 475Euros
Meta tghid il-prezz b'kollox x'jigifieri, ic-chart 33P+ bis-shipping jew ic-chart u l-Lowrance HDS-5 f'daqqa gewk 335 Euros????