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Shore Fishing => General Questions => Topic started by: tancred on November 17, 2009, 19:17:51 CET

Title: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: tancred on November 17, 2009, 19:17:51 CET
Does anyone have any experience of fishing for sargi at night in the "Captain Morgan" area of The Strand, Sliema?
What about using pole and float?
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: robby017 on November 17, 2009, 19:20:58 CET
try running float.... however, last time i went, the biggest sargu was around 10-15cm, thus it was all catch and release...
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: fish-noob on November 17, 2009, 23:26:12 CET
you can try pole and float. i recommend imperjal there.
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: caldaland on November 18, 2009, 01:43:53 CET
hermit crab is very good but you have to move from place to place. some use cheddar there too.imperjal is always good as fishnoob rightly said
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: Robby9 on November 18, 2009, 10:42:24 CET
at sliema is good for sargi at night?
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: caldaland on November 18, 2009, 10:57:16 CET
yes,but dont expect to make a living out of it! lol
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: Robby9 on November 18, 2009, 16:16:48 CET
with running you catch sargi or with the comba at the bottom??
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: SPITEC on November 18, 2009, 16:19:04 CET
you can catch them with both methods
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: Robby9 on November 18, 2009, 16:20:06 CET
ty spitec
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: Diplodus Sargus on November 18, 2009, 17:06:11 CET
At sliema i dont think its productive my friend. Fish there are too small the size they escape from nets. Although if you are lucky you can find some good sized sargu once in a while. Not in my case cause i never had caught a decent one from there!
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: Robby9 on November 18, 2009, 17:56:52 CET
i dont go to sliema to fish i go to sa maison to catch sargi and imnieges
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: sharktail on November 18, 2009, 21:38:09 CET
What hooks size do you use to catch nicely sized Sargi please? And at what depth is ideal to set the float if fishing with simple hand rod? i.e. hooks close to the bottom or further close to the surface? Are they usually found more in ports or further out at sea? And are they best caught in the "rima" like Kahli??

10x
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: mulett75 on November 18, 2009, 22:25:44 CET
Normally Sargi are found closieset to the bottom. If you are using a float try to bring the bait by the botom. Some times, when I use running float for sargi/awrat, i will attach the last weight (comba) about 30cm away from the hook, measure the dept on this last weight and I leave those 30cm on the bottom of the sea.
As regards the rima, no you want catch the sargi in the rima. But it is not the first time that fisherman, while or after fishing for kahli, will put up the float a bit higher to fish in more dept and they will catch a sargu. Yes it will stay just under the Kahli.
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: Robby9 on November 19, 2009, 08:28:34 CET
You can catch sargi while you fishing for kahli i usually when i am fishing for sargi and imnieges the line is 0.22mm and the size of the hook is 7 at the bottom with comba i usually fish for them
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: sharktail on November 19, 2009, 11:33:04 CET
Thanks mulett75 and Robby9.

What is the main advantage of using a "running float" please? I thought it is used according to sea conditions, i.e. if rough or calm... OR maybe to let the fish run a bit with the hook (when hooked) before the float goes down?  ???

And when you say fishing with the hook close to the bottom for Sargi/Awrat etc..., how are you so sure that you will catch such specific fish? OR you will catch "any" fish usually found by the bottom (i.e. "tal-qiegh"?)

sorry for any stupid questions  ;D

10x
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: tancred on November 19, 2009, 12:11:19 CET
Advantages of running float:
1. You can float-fish in areas deeper than length of rod.
2. You can float-fish far out.
3. In the presence of wind, you can reduce distance between tip of rod and float (for better control).
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: sharktail on November 19, 2009, 15:05:03 CET
thanks tancred... but are you referring to a rod with REEL here?? Cause I was referring to a basic hand rod (not reel)... 10x
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: gzarb on November 19, 2009, 15:10:49 CET
4.and the sinker  can t  stay in the bottom , like the bottom fishing lool
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: tancred on November 19, 2009, 15:52:51 CET
sharktail, running float usually used only with rod + reel
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: robby017 on November 19, 2009, 16:17:21 CET
generally true but i like to use a running float whilst fishing with a rod and no reel (pole). mostly cos the line is not being pinched whilst passing trough the float with its stick. The lesser pinches and knots you have the better as those are all weak points were you could expect your line to break when catching a nice fish ..... or the seabed.
Title: Re: Sargi at Sliema (Captain Morgan area)
Post by: mulett75 on November 19, 2009, 20:54:24 CET
One of the advantages of running float is that you can cast far away more than the pole could give you or fish in deep water (more than 9m) with a float.

Yes when fishing close to bottom may various fish could bite. The bottom is the habitat of most of the fish.