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Title: 'S' register boats
Post by: effects on March 22, 2010, 21:36:59 CET
hi ppl,
        I bought a boat and this is registered under 'S' category, can I go fishing under this category or is ellegal ?
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: bigboy on March 22, 2010, 21:53:51 CET
yes you can.

S is just the same as MFC.
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: effects on March 22, 2010, 21:58:59 CET
ax habib tieghi qalli li daghjes iregistrati taht 's' category huwa illegali u qaali bix naqliba mfc

Because a friend of mine said that boats under 'S' category are illegal and he suggested that I switch to MFC


PS: @ Effects once a post is started in English we keep it that way. Same applies if started in Maltese. So please in this post express yourself in English. Thanks regards Shanook
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: bigboy on March 22, 2010, 22:11:57 CET
Its not true, infact they are not registering s boats as mfc anymore.
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: effects on March 22, 2010, 22:20:36 CET
sry for replying in maltese i'm new in here so what's the difference between 's' register to mfc?
and if i go to transfer it from 's' to mfc it's not possible anymore?
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: robby017 on March 22, 2010, 22:43:33 CET
there is no differance........... it is not possible to have it transferred either........
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: Shaftbomb on March 23, 2010, 00:07:33 CET
Bigboy, are you sure that you can go "fishing" with S registered boats for everything, i.e. with parit, konz etc????  The info I have here is not the same as you are implying....
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: LapsiBoy on March 23, 2010, 00:27:49 CET
Thats what i tought..
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: caldaland on March 23, 2010, 00:37:42 CET
s is the same as mfc.you can fish with everything except with all kinds of nets and surface longlines for swordfish,tuna and albacore,
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: caldaland on March 23, 2010, 00:39:54 CET
one cannot transfer an s to mfc nowadays as they are the same
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: skip on March 23, 2010, 06:40:28 CET
For recreational fishing as the others have pointed out S is fine. Only brand new vessels will be accepted on the MFC register therefore as yours is already registered like the others have pointed out you will have to remain as S.

You can fish for most things, it's only if you want to consider MFB (part time commercial fisherman) and then Bigboy and some others can best advise you.
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: robby017 on March 23, 2010, 10:56:20 CET
this relates to your query, however it is in maltese:

http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php/topic,1752.0.html
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: robby017 on March 23, 2010, 11:01:41 CET
MINISTERU GHAR-RIZORSI U L- LAFFARIJIET
RURALI
AFFARIJIET MALTA
MINISTRY FOR RESOURCES AND
RURAL AFFAIRS

Taqsima ta' Regolament Veterinarju, Veterinary Regulation, Fisheries
Konservazzjoni u Kontroll tas-Sajd Conservation & Control Division
Abattoir Square, Albertown, Marsa, Malta

TELEPHONE: (356) 25905000 / 215 / 216 FAX: (356) 21 238105

INFORMAZZJONI DWAR SAJD MINN DGHAJJES RIKREAZZJONALI


· L-uzu ta' kull tip ta' xibka u konzijiet tal pixxispad, tonn u alungi ma jistghux jintuzaw minn bastimenti f'din il-kategorija. F'din il-kategorija jistghu jintuzaw irkapti ohra bhal konzijiet tal-qiegh, nasses u rixa skond il-Legislazzjoni Sussidjarja 425.01, "Regolamenti dwar is-Sajd".·

Il-qabda tal-hut li tinqabad minn bastimenti rikreazzjonali ghandha tinzamm ghall-uzu personali u ma tistax tigi kkumercjalizzata. Il-hut li jinqabad jista' jigi kkumercjalizzat biss ghal finijiet karitattivi. Dan jista' jsir biss jekk tinghata awtorizazzjoni mit-Taqsima ta' Regolament Veterinarju, Konservazzjoni u Kontroll tas-Sajd. Din l-awtorizazzjoni tkun tista'
tinhareg biss jekk id-dhul tal-bejgh imur ghall-karita'.

Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: robby017 on March 23, 2010, 11:07:58 CET
Translation of the highlighted part.....

The use of any nets and longlines of swordfish tuna and albacore may not be used by vessels in this catagory (Recreational 'S' and MFC). In this catagory however other mthods may be used such as bottom longlining, traps and trolling as per Subsiduary legislation 425.01, Fishing Regulations.


Fish caught on recreational vessels is to be kept for personal consumption and cannot be commercialised... i.e. it cannot be sold.

it can only be sold if all proceeds go to charity.
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: bigboy on March 23, 2010, 15:37:53 CET
Shaftbomb my friend with s and mfc you can fish with all types of gear except surface longlines for tuna, sworfish and albacore, and also with nets. But you can use bottom longlines and even octopus traps.

Last time i was at the fisheries to collect some papers regarding the big boat i asked again about s and mfc and rita told me do not bother about it because there is no difference.

Also i was told that if the big boat which is mfb has and problems with the engines we can use the small boat by obtaining a fisheries permission !!!

Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: shanook on March 23, 2010, 16:08:22 CET
PARIT NO NO for s and mfc...............bottom long lines traps (octapus), trolling, jigging, deep fishing all Ok......
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: robby017 on March 23, 2010, 16:14:07 CET
exactly..... that's what bigboy and i were saying.....

anyhow, this further illustrates that the activity in the pictures in the below thread are illeagal!!!



http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php/topic,2675.msg33789/topicseen.html#new
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: markus on May 10, 2010, 13:59:50 CET
Quote from: shanook on March 23, 2010, 16:08:22 CET
PARIT NO NO for s and mfc...............bottom long lines traps (octapus), trolling, jigging, deep fishing all Ok......





nasses tal vopi u knuz tal-qiegh jistaw bl-s registration ?   
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: kris on May 10, 2010, 14:18:08 CET
nases tal vopi tista ijwa u konz tal qih tista ukoll sa 200 sunnara
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: robby017 on May 10, 2010, 14:52:43 CET
i believe it is 250 not 200 hooks.......
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: bigboy on May 10, 2010, 20:54:15 CET
200 hooks :P

not more ;)
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: shanook on May 10, 2010, 21:44:28 CET
yep 200 hooks per long line........
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: Destination Sea on May 11, 2010, 22:10:17 CET
200 hooks per line..................................................w xi tlieta ohra reserve ;D
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: bigboy on May 11, 2010, 23:27:17 CET
malaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :P heqq 200 hooks fkull tank hux :P tank barra magembna u 6 ohra fl istorage :P
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: shanook on May 12, 2010, 08:25:31 CET
heqqqqqqqqqq dik storja ohra le........
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: malvizzu on May 12, 2010, 10:11:43 CET
Qieghed f'dilemma x'se nirregistru d-dghajsa l-gdida - jekk hux 'S' jew 'MFC'. Id-differenza hija li 'S' tigi 50 Euros u 'MFC' tigi 466 Euros (Lm200). Plus li jekk xi darba nbigh id-dghajsa min se jixtri jrid jerga' jhallas Lm200. X'tahsbu?!
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: markus on May 12, 2010, 10:26:11 CET
bl-s kemm tista tohrog il-barra ? tafu hbieb ?
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: bigboy on May 12, 2010, 11:01:34 CET
malvizzu trid tara, ghax bhal issa hawn ghajdut li bl s ma tistax tohrog tistad izjed fid dlam, trid tkun gewwa f postok meta jkun id dlam pero ma nafx dan hux veru. Bhala metodi ta sajd mem l ebda differenza bejn l s u l mfc !!!

Jien kiku s nirregistrahha ax izjed wertit. li ghandek huwa li trid thallas izjed matul is sena hux ghax ghandek l insurance compulsery. bl mfc 23 euros biss
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: malvizzu on May 12, 2010, 11:20:10 CET
@ Freedive - id-dghajsa 14-il pied.

@ markus - bl-'S' tista' tohrog 12NM outside baseline (il-perimeter tal-gzejjer Maltin li jinkludi l-Filfla).

@ bigboy - bil-lejl ma nahsibx li nohrog nistad, aktar tinkwetani jekk ihallunix nistadu bir-rixa, ghal tal-qiegh u bin-nases, u jekk ihallunix nohorgu sa 12NM il barra. Bizzejjed hx***a bid-delizzju tal-kacca, issa tas-sajd ikun jonqosni. L-insurance dejjem jaqbillek taghmilha, sew jekk 'S' u sew jekk 'MFC', ghall-gid taghna wara kollox.
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: busumark on May 12, 2010, 13:00:17 CET
bl S kemm ha thallas fis sena al 50 hp ? trid tnaqqas dan l ammont minn 23 euros u tara kemm iddum biex igib d differenza bejn l 466 euros u l 50 euros.

Ma ninsewx li dawn c ciefri jistaw jinbidlu. kull ma iridu huwa li jigi l bagit u din s sena ikun rahshom b ammont u jigi l bagit ta wara u jollijhom bid dopju u naqra biex l gvern ikun dejjem minn fuq. bhal ma jaghmel ghal petrol u d diesel. irahsu b 1 c u jollih b 5 c .
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: caldaland on May 12, 2010, 16:32:26 CET
meta ftit tal-gimghat ilu ghid li ahna is-sajjieda jenhtieg niffurmaw union hadd ma irrisponda,lanqas wiehed!grazzi!
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: malvizzu on May 12, 2010, 16:48:53 CET
Union mhux idea hazina izda nassigurak habib illi ma taghmel xejn jekk il-gvern idahhal xi haga f'mohhu. Jien dilettant sew tal-kacca - u ara x'hadna - kanna wahda fuq ohra - ghax xeba' jitnejjek bina. Imbilli qeghdin fuq 15,000 registrati u ghandna ghaqda li tirsisti, xorta wahda li ried il-gvern ghamel.
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: caldaland on May 12, 2010, 16:57:44 CET
il-kaccaturi kellhom il-maggoranza tal-poplu kontra,is-sajjieda le!
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: malvizzu on May 12, 2010, 17:03:25 CET
Jista' jkun li ghandek ragun. Fuq il-licenzja ta' 50HP fuq dghajsa registrata 'S' ma nafx kemm hi ezatt. Hemm xi mkien fejn nista' niccekkja?
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: robby017 on May 12, 2010, 17:05:44 CET
+ il kaccaturi qedin fejn qedin llum habba l ftit 'kaccaturi' li hasbu li huma ghola mil ligijiet u kienu jisparaw fuq kull haga li ittir jew ticaqlaq .... min ghasfur tal bejt, al huttafa al kokka u anke kuccarda jew seqer........ sfortunatament ghalijom, sabu kappel jigijhom.... u wehhel kulhadd....... (ps. minix kontra l kacca f'malta, pero, kontra l-illegalitajiet li saru u li jibqaw jsiru)
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: malvizzu on May 12, 2010, 17:20:40 CET
Ghandek mitt elf ragun u naqbel mieghek perfettament Robby.
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: caldaland on May 13, 2010, 11:40:28 CET
ara ma tahsbux li il-gvern ser jissogra li jitlef eluf ta voti biex isalva erba rixiet tafux! hu ikkalkula li iktar jakwista voti jekk jehoda kontra il-kacca milli favur.
Title: Re: 'S' register boats
Post by: Robby9 on May 13, 2010, 11:55:44 CET
Taf x naf jien ikollok delizzju ma tistax tiehu naqra pjacir bih.Il gvern x impurtah min dawn id delizzji.