Hi Members. I started spinning a few months ago, but till now I caught nothing. I have every type of Lure, floating, sinking, big, small, minnow type, jointed... every type and almost every colour. My rod and reel are for spinning too. Also, I go in the morning when it is still dark.
I have seen barracudas following my lures, but they stop short and do not grab.
I would like to ask whether I can meet up with a good spinner to see if I am doing something wrong, or I'm just unlucky.
I like going out early, and breathing in the fresh air near the sea.. but I am starting to feel embarrassed that my wife tells me lets go to M'xlokk to buy some fish!! :-[
Hey mate,
welcome to the forum first of all. I started spinning about a year ago and have caught very few fish. It is a known fact that spinning compared to the other types of fishing is a bit difficult.
I go with a friend of mine who told me that all that i needed was luck. I am a spinner but i don,t believe i am that experienced to assist you
Goodluck to you and tight lines
ken
try find out some maria lures red head , i ve been spinning for 6 years and only use these lures. I'm not saying that others are not good but , i only catch the barracuda with this type of lure. From my experience it also depends on the moon which type of lure you use !!
Hi Guys
I have tried a lure that is white and yellow with a red head. It is 13cm long.. maybe to big???
I would like to ask you both Ken and Markus if its only Barracudas you caught by spinning.
A friend of mine trawls where I spin, and he almost always catches a plamtu or a cuda. My casts reach where he trawls but I really cant understand why I never caught anything yet.
How shoud the retrieving be.. fast constant speed, slow constant speed, variable speed or with pauses.
Thanks Guys.
my wife doesnt call me a nutter cos she gets to sleep more thanks to me being out.
but now I don't tell her im going fishing.. i tell her im going near the sea.
Be patience my friend I started spinning a few months ago and I caught nothing as well.spinning is not like bottom fishing, you catch a lot of fish,spinning you catch a few fish but they are nice catches.Patience is all you need for fishing, do not give up man.
Seems I'm not alone... but I must have went from 20 to 30 times.. Now all I need is that I hook something and it cuts.
Thanks Freedive re lure size. I have quite a few that size.
When the Cudas are just following, put on a bigger lure.
it works.
Cudas sometimes get tricky to catch,.I ve been fishing for cudas for quitr a lot time.They are becoming intelligent and spook easily .From my expereince if you go to an overfished place,the more chance you will find a good teached cuda that knows what a lure is.
You need to have some patience and experiment with retrieves.
i also experiment with lines.sometimes it is more effective than changing the lure.
However when the cudas say no they really mean it. :)
A few weeks ago when a big cuda was following my lure, I starting changing my lure and experimenting with different lures every so often. The amount of lures I changed in 10 minutes was as if I was making a show for the cuda...
Its the big ones that interested it the most as clutch kick said. But maybe I was using the wrong retrieve speed or it was to damn clever. Most probably clever cos where I was spinning there were a lot of boats trawling.
I m thinking that i may have been fishing in the place you were mentioning.I can rwll you that it is not easy to catch a cuda from there.Certainly oy s possible but with great patience.
When you will be fishing you have to keep in mind that it s not easy as the big fish eats the small fish.Only a stupid cuda is caught up with the lure.]
That s how fish stocks survive by the way.
Barracuda02, I can assure you that you can catch a barracuda with a Phd, on a lure. It is all down to meterological conditions, time of the day, and your skill as a spinner when choosing lure size, colour and action.
If the fish is hungry, and it is hunting, it will bite. You just have to be smarter than the fish.
It does seem that somewhere i am making a mistake. Don't know if its lure size, colour or retrieve speed, but certainly some thing is wrong. But as you said that is how fish survive. The stupid ones get caught and don't breed but get cooked, and the clever ones don't get caught, but breed and pass their clever genes to their offspring.
But where i go i'm sure there are no stupid ones.
This thread could not have been better!! We could all do with more stupid fish in the sea, to have more fun. If you catch a fish and think it is stupid, just let it go back! So it will breed and we can have more stupid fish in the sea!
Seriously guys, think about catch and release. More importantly, try to educate others about it. This is our hobby, let's take care of it. The sea is not a limitless resource, but it has come very close to it's limits. The hardest bit is letting your fisrt fish go.
It seems you already lost hope, as i told you it has now been a year since i started spinning and only recently i caught my first cuda. Many who do not know or didn't fish with me would say something is wrong the persons who fished with me always told me do not get discouraged.
If everything else is ok it might be you are like me born under an unlucky star (mlt "twilidt taht stilla hazina") lol :D
do not get discouraged
yes I guess you're right. its easy to get discouraged when I've been out at least 20 times and have not landed anything yet. But I still enjoy being near the sea in the peace & quiet of the morning.
So with spinning from land its mainly a cuda we can catch, or we can catch other fish in their right seasons like Cerviola???
Cos soon I think other migratory fish will be around.
There are many fish you can catch with spinning not only cudas.you can catch cerviola,sawrell,spnott(sea bass) etc.last time i went spinning cerviol was following my lure a couple of times but no one bite.
Other fish that can be caught...dentex, "plamtu", bullet fish (tumbrell).
Then there are the unusual squid , serran, lizard fish (skalm),etc. Have a good look at the forum you can get a better idea i think
Sounds like I need a bigger lure! The one I bought from the shop in Msida is only the length of my thumb! Flew quite nicely though. Oh well! Standing at Tigne Point watching the sun rise over Valetta across the harbour was an awesome experience :)
LOL N00B! ::)
what you were using is called a spinner....... what you should have been using was a minnow type lure(that actually resembles a fish) eg, Rapala X-Rap, Yo Zuri minnows, Strike pro and the likes.....
Isn't this the spinning section? This is so confusing :D
This is all still brand new to me, but thanks for the advice, my dad is out there at the moment so I'll tell him to get to the fishing shop!
yes, its the spinning section, and you do use a spinner for spinning, its just that, odds are you'll get more strikes in the ares you were on a minnow type lure than a spinner.... those spinners are used from rocky cliffs in deep water for atlantic bonito and little tunnies...
I'm still in the caught no fish yet status. I went Saturday, but the sea was a bit rough and I went again on Sunday but nothing. Not even a Lizz following my lure :-((((
The sea was calm on Sunday so when the Lizz time had finished at about 7 am I started experimenting with different lures and noting their swimming motion. All the branded lures are good. But in my opinion (i'm no expert) the Yo-Zuri had the most life like swim. And its the least lure I use! So I will concentrate on that lure next time!
Yo-zuri crystal minnows have a very realistic swim action!! the only slight gripe i have with them is they not the best as regards casting.Don't worry about not catching anything yet,just keep on cracking those lures out and you get something mate! i was just watching a documentary on National Geographic (i think its called monster fish or smething like that) and there was a segment on giant trevally fishing in australia and this guy hadn't had a touch all day,whilst all his mates had caught some very nice ones and while they were packing up for the day he half heartedly flicked out the last cast of the day..and caught a world record GT ;D i guess the moral of this is,Stick with it mate!
tight lines
8)
Hi Martin, Yeah true. but i'm kind of embarrassed saying that I go fishing but I haven't caught anything yet. The other day on the documentary you mentioned a man caught a swordfish or marlin from his canoe! I didnt see it from the beginning but I assume he had a lure and he was sort of trawling.
Cheers Mate.
Quote from: Blaze on May 24, 2010, 22:39:20 CET
Hi Martin, Yeah true. but i'm kind of embarrassed saying that I go fishing but I haven't caught anything yet. The other day on the documentary you mentioned a man caught a swordfish or marlin from his canoe! I didnt see it from the beginning but I assume he had a lure and he was sort of trawling.
Cheers Mate.
Nothing to be embarrassed about! it can happen,esp with lure fishing! Not the 1st time ive been fishing and caught nothing and my fishing buddies have caught a fish each or vice versa..go figure! I missed that series of the documentary! shame! cos you have to have a serious screw loose to catch a marlin from a canoe :o !! Its quite common for them to "attack" a fishing boat when they are being brought up to the gaff,so you can imagine what a marlin could do to a canoe if it was inclined to.....The phrase "like a hot knife through butter" springs to mind ;D
I ve cought cudas on many different lures in fact i once cought a small cuda on a lure that was bigger than the cuda itself .
If you see a cuda following your lure reel in faster they might snap at it.
I am assuming you were spinning in Marsa .
Barracudas in Marsa KNOW what a lure is . Your best bet to catch a cuda is before sunrise. if the cuda happens to have just woken up and is still dreaming of his dream fish he ll bite otherwise he ll look at your lure and think , look a new firetiger 12 cm .
Seriously the current barracudas over there are RESIDENT.
They've seen more lures than an emploee at Mr fish .
I agree Lamacca. A lure is a lure. Plastic. Cudas have big eyes so as you said they will learn to select flesh from plastic. A few weeks ago when a cuda was following my lure it was big! Must have been well over 2 kilos. So that means a professor on lures and their brands.
Once I fished for Cudas in Florida. From a small boat. In 10 minutes we caught 3 big ones. Using live fish that is. First the guy I was with caught some small fish with a round net with weights round the diameter, that he threw. Then he kept the small fish live in a picnic cooler. Then we hooked them and just let them swim away. And in minutes we had tight lines. Not good to eat there tho.
Because the species there of cudas have a lot more teeth, there was wire between the hooks and nylon.
Anyone tries with live fish here?
hi..
i m really crazy about fishing and i do competition in malta ..but believe it or not , i never fish spinning ...
i started fishing this teknik in the last 2 weeks and i bought just a kind minnow called jerk bait of STRIKE PRO ,, from when i started i went spinning about 9 times ,,, and the first day i got 7 serra ( i don t know how this fish is called in maltese,,the italian name is pesce serra ) ,,,and than nothing at all till last time i went .. i got a nice barracuda ...
it s a bit boring but when u got the fish on the line ,, u understand that all the time spent doing the same movement was worth..
don t give up ... ;)
Wow Carmelo.. what a catch. Till now I've only caught 2 Blue Runners (sawrell tal imperjal).. thanks for raising my morale, will keep on trying..
But I have a feeling that I had better change my line to braid, and buy some smaller swivels. Cos barracudas have followed my lures about 50 times, but none have struck till now.
why do u use a swivel ?? ...i always attach the minnow directly on the mother line of the reel .....if the barracuda follow the minnow without attacking is probably because of two reasons... 1 the barracuda understood that is not a real fish or 2 because the minnow is travelling at too low speed to induce the predator instinct in the barracuda ..... when i caught fish on spinning i was always spinning fast ...lot of people told me to slow down, but i always kept going fast ...regards the braided or not , ... the braided is surely better because it does not have any elasticity and u can have more contact of your bait,, but if u use a .30 of nylon or a .30 of braided ,,the only difference apart the elasticity is that the braided will have a breaking point maybe 2-3 times higher than the nylon and considering that a .30 of nylon can have a breaking point of about 7-8 kilos ,, i think it s a bit exagerated have have line that can take 15 kg....using a fluorocarbon would be better for your wallet and for the fishing as a sport where also the fish can have a chance to win over the angler..in any case if u use the braided be very carefully for your finger when u cast .....http://www.tackletour.com/images/picstrikeprojero1308.jpg in the image there is the minnow i use ..it about 13 cm and weight 20 grams ..
gd luck ;)
Yes I did try fishing with live bait and what i hooked were all Serra , Barracudas just come and toy around with the baited fish whilst the Serra bites and goes with everything , Sadly they have very sharp teeth and since they gulp the whole fish out of 5 i only caught 1 the other 4 bit through the 60 size mono ot the 30 kg braid in a matter of seconds. The only one i got was because the hook lodged itself between its teeth.
Hi Guys.. is it just me, or are there no Cudas, Cervjol & Sawrell around our shores? I enjoyed June and July a lot but these past few weeks have been so unproductive. Worse then that I have had almost no follow ups.
My method is spinning BTW.
Blaze, fish move around, they do not stop and wait in one place. They will swim generally stalking the shoals of bait fish which they hunt. So you can expect that sometimes fish will go elsewhere to hunt.
let me give you a few tips.
1... Fish light. Rod, telescopic net, and a hoversac are all you need, so you can easily move around the coast line, don't hang around the same spot if you are not getting any follow ups.
2... Vary your lures. Poppers, WTD, Minnows, Skippers, and vary the colours, you never know what the fish are looking for.
3... Just enjoy the fresh air and your time by the sea. Sometimes we don't catch fish :)
Have not been spinning in quite a while, but clutch_kick gave you the best advice possible. It seems like something strange is happening with the low rate of catches. Something I would attribute to the weather. Nonetheless, there is also the issue of lunar phases though not that well informed about them and the impact on fishing and spinning especially.
Hi Jean, it could be those details you mentioned. I talked to an old experienced fisherman and he said it hasn't done a strong grigallata yet. Or it could be something more simpler. Like the sea is being swept clean with certain fishing methods.
I feel its us Homo sapiens to blame. And even some Homo erectus that come and fish right next to me, barely 10ft away sometimes when I spin.
I have seen ppl bottom fishing, and catching 5 inch groupers and releasing them.... in their bucket!!!!
Blaze I totally agree with you! The over-fishing and absence of ethics when it comes to prey selection is a true killer for our beloved hobby. That's definite! I keep thinking about weather and lunar phases and blame them as it kind of gives me some hope; when i think of over fishing I simply dont manage to get my lazy ass off my desk hehe. Use to love fishing in sliema and sometimes caught some nice. But when they started to close the port with nets it all went bust. Remember seeing 100s of cudas and used to enjoy seeing them fly out of the water catching their preys. Pity I didn't spin at the time
Re grigalata I agree; a good friend also keen on fishing keeps repeating that endlessly. I also remain puzzled when I fish in tramuntana (north wind) – simply nothing. Not even a bite when using bait. Does this happen to you or are they just myths?
I cant say that the north wind is unproductive cos I don't note the wind direction when I catch fish. When I get home I note date, location, species, weight of fish and lure. But it will be a good idea if I start.
I am seeing resident cudas here and there but no cervjol and sawrell. Thats why I am completely baffled. It should be a good time of the year to see lots and lots of cervjol as far as I know.
Quote from: jean on October 06, 2010, 08:59:47 CET
I also remain puzzled when I fish in tramuntana (north wind) – simply nothing. Not even a bite when using bait. Does this happen to you or are they just myths?
I totally agree with you Jean about the north wind. I have been experiencing this phenomenon for years when fishing from land in winter. I usually fish at St Paul's Bay with a hand pole and make some nice catches with a north-westerly wind. As soon as it goes to north, it's like someone turned off the switch. Not a bite, not a strike and the bait remains attached to the hook for a long time until it falls.
Exactly like me malvizzu. One time i'm telling you, me and some friends had the menu better than a five star fish restaurant! Fresh squid, mussels (Fresh), hniex tal - pallela, imperjal, chkal, and also sardine! Was were fishing a spot were we made some nice catches in the past. Some rods were far out with single hook rigs (beads and swivels to make it more attractive in current) other rods closer inside with a simlar setup but laying the bait on the sandy bottom. And nothing! I should have just cooked the bloody squid and boiled the mussels lol! not one single bite or hit!
fishing is really strange at times.... I remember very good fishing days with wind coming from north ..but also remember days that the bait remain untouched (unfortunately also happened with other wind directions as well :'( >:( ;D)
can't understand fishing even regarding bait,,,I also tend to try different types of bait during the night using different kinds of worm (which cost loads of €) only to have catches only on the simple shrimp I we usually use for bogue ::)
but that's why I like fishing so much...there's always a surprise :)
my personal best sargi fishing came about when the wind was blowing a steady north wind...... Coincidence perhaps.......... also caught my biggest that night, 1kg 200g+ and another one of 900g+
http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php?action-gallery;sa=view;id=2716
"When the winds from the south, it blows the lure into their mouth.
When the wind is from the west, the bite is the best.
When the wind is from the north, don't go forth,
and when the wind is from the east, they bite the least."
Good one!!!
unfortunately,its not mine!
Quote"When the winds from the south, it blows the lure into their mouth.
When the wind is from the west, the bite is the best.
When the wind is from the north, don't go forth,
and when the wind is from the east, they bite the least."
but, when there's just a slight and variable breeze,
do us a favour, please catch and release ::) ;D
the breeze is starting to catch up,oh look,
so i better pack up and start to cook!
as long as its legal, and not about to rot,
i find no problem for you to put it in the pot.
but if its too small, and of an immature age,
please throw it back, opt for chicken with sage.
Its still very healthy, and surely its tasty,
& you'll be proud of yourself for releasing that baby.
robby017 Alias TS Elliot................
lol prosit robby.... 5 stars!!! :D
Ghandek x tghamel rob ukoll :)
l-aqwa li fuq l msn jikteb very busy ...hallina bob :P
i might not be lord byron,chaucer or kipling,
but i few lines i can manage{with God helping}.
i eat what is eatable regardless of law,
as long as it's harmless for the stomach and jaw.
some goes in the pot,the frying pan and the dish,
according to the size and the taste of the fish.
as regards to the chicks i will surely won't coy,
above all the booby ones i truly enjoy!
now it's getting interesting... :)
you could have been wilfred owen for all i care,
now that the facts are all out and bare,
you think you're above the law, a 'hero' of our days'
but now im sick and tired of trying to change your ways.
i give up, keep on doing as you please
its not on my conscience, thus i rest at ease.
Wow!! Didn't realise we had poets in the forum :)
battle of the poets :)
That says alot about the lampuki season, instead of being out there battling the puki we're here being poetic!!...Bdew il-klamari jew?
ftit li xejn gaffer, l gimgha mort ftit bid dghajsa ghalihom qbadna 4 wara xi 5 sighat nitnejku. ghadhom lura nt worth going
translate
Jien htaft 2 biss sissa,
ghamilt satej ma mesnix wihed umbad mat triq i lgewwa nilmah 3 dajjes fej xulxin mixawlin u edt ha ntijom tefa
kif messejt il qih gibt tnej f daqqa u mexxejt il gewwa kuntent :)
come on guys, it was started in english.
Quote from: robby017 on October 09, 2010, 15:14:02 CET
you could have been wilfred owen for all i care,
now that the facts are all out and bare,
you think you're above the law, a 'hero' of our days'
but now im sick and tired of trying to change your ways.
i give up, keep on doing as you please
its not on my conscience, thus i rest at ease.
I read your good poem with great joy and with glee,
but i thought Owen played ball,how silly of me!
As for your beloved law,to break it takes guts
most often its harder than the shell of some nuts.
For sure im a hero and ill let it be known,
im my wifes superstar,and of course im my own!
If youre sick call the doctor,if tired just rest,
giving you my goodwill,wishing you all the best.
No,its not on your conscience and neither on mine,
just live and let live and quit all this useless whine.
From work please take leave and enjoy this great
hobby,
and may you catch fishes,my dearest friend Robby!
me to, good gear and no fish . last time i went i had a follow up of a barracuda but no attacks why ? ;(
Hi James15,
I started this thread myself in May, 2010 after I had been fishing for a couple of months. I caught my first fish in June of that year. To date things have changed and I have made some good catches with a few that were quite notable.
My advice is to go for the slender minnow type lures from 12cm to 15cm, start fishing early in the morning when it is still dark, and play around with the retrieve, slow and fast, jerks and no jerks.. just try and try. Sometimes it is just luck, and other times you can be a good experienced spinner but there are no fish. :)
You will have follow ups of Sawrell and Cudas, its normal.. sometimes I have follow ups and no strikes on even my best of lures.
Your day will come, just don't give up!!
Hang in there.