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Title: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 24, 2010, 08:10:22 CET
Naf li mandix xtaqsam mal  fishing........aw xi had jista jtini il coordinates ta xi wrecks li aw mdawrin ma malta ax ma nista nsibom fuq l ebda ktieb, u nsaqsi lil dawk li gieli jwassluna qisek qed titlobom id deheb.

jien alijja iridhom biss biex nkun nista mmur boat dives fuqom ma siehbi, la biex nistad u laqqas biex niehu lin nies

Daniel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: bigboy on May 24, 2010, 10:59:05 CET
Certu positions tar wrecks sihbi ma jtuwomlokx dawk li jihduk todos fuqhom.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: bigboy on May 24, 2010, 11:32:45 CET
hafna jkunu immarkati fuq il gps. pero mhumiex accurate. jekk ikollok marki tal art umbad issibhom bil fishfinder.

ahna ghalkemm jkolna l positions ezatti tal wrecks xorta nuzaw il fishfinder biex naqaw ezatti fuqom habba x shotline tad divers

Drajtom bl amment issa fej qieghedin qas position tal gps mandi bzon
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 24, 2010, 13:19:23 CET
ok mela nipprova kif qed tejduli bil fishfinder

thanks
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: blueskip on May 24, 2010, 21:09:24 CET
I wouldn't mind betting that the Luftwaffe could give you the coordinates of a few, them buggers sank enough >:( I'm suprised that you can trawl anywhere around Malta, the sea bottom must resemble a scrap yard, it must be similar to Truk Lagoon!
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: mellieha on May 25, 2010, 11:56:26 CET
GPS co-ordinartes habib difficili biex jitadewlek.  Jiena wiehed li ninzel dives sa 58 meters u inhobb indurr ir wrecks.  Nibza meta nara lil hadd iehor fil vicin ghax malajr tar xi spear niexla. 

Ezempju: Jiena ma nafekx u ha nkelmek bla pregudizju pero fuq dghajsa tad divers li ma humiex fisherman ftit tara fishfinders.  Issa jekk hija dghajsa ta recreational fisherman u tuza ghad diving it tentazjoni tigi naturali jekk tara xi haga.

Nerga nghidlek bla pregudizju pero kull meta hadt lil xi hadd jeww ftaht halqi dejjem desert sibt allura ma nghid xejn .

No offense to be taken mate but wrecks are treasures as you may well know
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: bigboy on May 25, 2010, 12:36:07 CET
Well said mellieha

Pero ghandek daqxej zball zghir fil kliem li ghedt dwar il fishfinders

2 mil akbar hbieb tighi joperaw 2 dghajjes ghad divers (wihed minnom mit tnej sal hadd) dawn forsi taf lim huma wahda tkun ix xemxija l Pegasus u l ihor luzzu Delfino jkun l imsida. Jien mort hafna hafna drabi maghhom bix xoghol tad divers u tghallimt li hija importanti hafna li jkollok fishfinder sabiex taqa ezatti fuq il wreck u biex iggib ix shotline kif suppost.

Mhux biex nitkelmu fuq haddiehor pero kien hemm hafna operaturi ta dajjes li jihdu d divers li gew talbuwhom il positions ezatti ta xi wrecks ax bl uzu tal iscandal irnexxilom igibu position ezatta ta kull wreck. Sa hansitra humwa uwhud mil ftit dghajjes li jmorru fuq wrecks li qedin il boghod anka 20 mil il boghod mil art u dejjem few ezatt fuq il post.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: mellieha on May 25, 2010, 13:12:50 CET
Sewwa qed tghid bigboy ghalhekk fil post semmejt recreational boat jien. 

Kull min igor id divers kulhadd bil fishfinder ghax ilkella ma tigix fuq ir wrecks. 

Jien nibza nghaddi dan it tip ta informazjoni ghax tinqara mit tajbin u mil hziena. 
DArba tkellimt dwar xi cawluni kbar u sbieh fuq wreck.  Il haga ma hijiex li qabduhom imma li ma hallewx lil min ibid biex titrawmu.

Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: Spirit of Jason on May 25, 2010, 13:38:46 CET
If you have google earth, if you look at the Layers pallet on the left hand side, click on Oceans, then click on ship wrecks, google will show you the recorded ship wrecks around Malta, along with the Lat/Long of the wrecks.
Dont be to suprised though because there arent that many, I think the main sinking of ships was done far out in the med.

Hope this helps.

Captain Gus.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: bigboy on May 25, 2010, 14:19:22 CET
Mellieha ghandek ragun u naf fic cert ghal liema wreck qieghed tirreferi ;)

Pero hemm wrecks ohra li ftit jafu bijom u huma mimlijin hajja ;)
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 25, 2010, 15:45:57 CET
andek ragun tal hziena u tajbin......jiena Diver ninzel 58m ukoll......aparti min hekk Apnea spearer ukoll.....id dajsa fija fishifinder : 1. ghax kien mal GPS
                                                      2. ghax id dajsa nuzawa ukoll biex nistadu bija

kontra hafna hafna qas andek ideja kemm, li jintuza harpoon waqt diving. Pero still ma nabilx li dawn il postijiet andhom jinzammu sigriti...mhux qedin AREA51 ta.

Aparti min hekk qed jafsu iktar dan l ahhar nahseb il puluzija.

Nerga najdlek naqbel mijak li aw min j*h*i kollox

Daniel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: Spirit of Jason on May 25, 2010, 20:08:56 CET
sorry this is all double dutch to me.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: shanook on May 25, 2010, 21:07:01 CET
@spirit of Jason....the thread wasstarted in Maltese so any posts can be carried out in Maltese..........
its a forum rule if a post is started in a Language then all other posts have to be in that same language.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: Spirit of Jason on May 26, 2010, 00:08:18 CET
Thanks for that Shanook, I was not complaining my friend, just trying to be humourus.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: mellieha on May 26, 2010, 09:19:50 CET
Ir wrecks il baxxi nett fihom il hut sa 15 meters.  Sa 52 xejn apparti rosi, u il bqijja hemm minnhom fihom.  

Issa min hu diver sew sa jifhem ghal liem wrecks qed nirreferi apparti min ekk il ktieb tal course jispjega sew fejn qedin il baxxi.  

Issa ha nsemmi my favourite.  HMS Stubborn biex issibu trid fishfinder bilfors u hafna knowledge tal kurrent.  Jekk intik il co-ordinates xorta ma issibux jekk ma tkunx lucky.

Nispera li hadd ma jiehu ghalieh pero dan post (forum) maghruf min hafna u irridu noqodu attenti xin nizlu.

Tiftakruha kolla il paprata tal vapur tal platt.   Mela hekk sew intellaw mil bahar u inpoggu fuq ebay.  B'din il mentalita niexef ser jispicca il bahar ghax anka l-ilma nuzaw xi darba.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: bigboy on May 26, 2010, 10:17:54 CET
sew qieghed tghid mellieha.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: caldaland on May 26, 2010, 12:11:03 CET
x'imkien fil-port ta marsamxett hemm ajruplan fil-qiegh. xi hadd qatt semgha bih?
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: mellieha on May 26, 2010, 12:20:38 CET
Caldaland,

Jien smajthom isemmu nofs wiehed pero il irid ikun f'xi kantuiera biex ghadu hemm ghax il port min jaf kemm nadfu u hargu affarijiet min go fih.

Il hasra hija li l-arjuplani malajt jidetorjaw ruhom.

Naf b'iehor fin North go port (fil baxx).

Apparti li min jaf x'hemm fil fond il barra fi 100m plus.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: shanook on May 26, 2010, 12:25:28 CET
il port il kbir kien mimli fi zmieni........lahhar li naf li nizlu shabi kien xi ghoxrin sena ilu u ma tantx kien baqa hafna kollox kien qed jitmerrmer u mimlija hama. Il port il kbir mimli hama u ma tantx tarah il qieh. Plus kien id dreggjawh u ghalhekk nahseb li illum ma fadal xejn hlief kif qal il mellieha jekk hemm xi affarijiet fil gnub........
jekk mhiniex sejjer zball kien hemm stuka f'fomm ir rih imma nahseb li ghanki dak sar tabakk, u ma kienx fil fond lanqas.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: mellieha on May 26, 2010, 13:50:47 CET
dak ma huwiex tabakk immaaaaaaaaaaa

inzxilt infitxu 3- 4 darbiet u qatt ma sibniex.  Issa jew sar tabakk jew sar sadid jew evapora.???????

il hasra hija l-egoismu.

Ir wrecks il baxxi structur biss hallew.  U il fondi naqru minnhom ukoll
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 26, 2010, 16:38:58 CET
u bhas soltu mal hazin jer***** it tajjeb........u bhali li adna zar (zajr nsomma qabbad hiereg ix xahar l abjad issa) ma nafu b xej!!

jiena mort ta fuq hafna wrecks mal club u hekk imma minhabba x xol tijaj kwazi qatt ma nkun nista mmur mahhom, alek xtaqt il coordonates taghhom ax kieku immur fil hin tijaj, imma nsomma thanks xorta forsi xi darba nsib lil xi hadd qalbu tajba , jafdani u jtijomli

Daniel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: shanook on May 26, 2010, 20:36:22 CET
daniel jekk inti qied fi club nahseb li dak hu lahjar post fejn iggib il coordinates le
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: mellieha on May 27, 2010, 09:51:19 CET
Daniel,

fittex ir wrecks il baxxi tal port.  Inqas min 15 u max 30.  Viibility dahna pero sbieh.  Issa ma tantx nista nghajjat ghax qedin go forum tas sajjieda u bhala hobby huwa li jinqabad il hut.  Jien mil gieh narahom biss pero min fuq niprova naqbadhom.
Meta ninzel nistudja fejn ikunu, kif jikkaccjaw.  Alfejn post u mux iehor.  Kundizjonijiet etc etc. 

Li nista nghatik parir huwa li tkun avventurus u hawn dives sbieh x'tghamel. 

Avventurus, Ahseb post fejn tahseb li hemm sikka, fittex bil fishfinder mur fuq ir reef inzel 40 - 50 u hut tara.  Inzel bla spear pero. ;-)

Jekk trid xi co-ordinates mil  l- art to xi wrecks ibghat pm u nghatik.  BDW jien 24 ghandi tahsibx li jien xih pero tghallimt nikontrolla lili innifsi u meta nkun diving bil camera u meta fuq dghajsa bis sunnara. 

Biex inkun honest provajt pl-ispear specjalment in apnea pero tant hija differenti it technique specjalment il finning u breading li qtajt qalbi ghax jew haqga jew l-ohra meta bdejt inhawwad u kont ninzel bic cilindi kont nghid ahjar ghandi spear allura ahjar xejn spear u camera u dejjem tara hut.  Inzel bl-ispear u malli tarak huta tisparixxi u qrajt fuq magazine particolari li hawn hut li kapaci jidistingwixu xi scent li narmu ahna il bnedmin.

EZ alfejn il hut malli ihossok tkun in apnea jisparizzi u gieli fuq rosi - u ohrajn ihallik tavicinah.  Ir risposta skont jien hija li jaraf l-intenzjonijiet taghna.

Mellieha  Adrian
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: bigboy on May 27, 2010, 11:00:43 CET
Prosit Adrian erba kelmiet ta veru :)

Kellu bzonn kulhadd bhalek
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: mellieha on May 27, 2010, 12:06:00 CET
Bigboy,

tahsibx li facili ikollox huta sabih li kwazi tmissa.  Ghalekk nibza ghax jien it tentazzjoni tikolni kienet fil bidu. Issa niehu hafna gost meta nara huta sabiha u nieqaf namiraha.  Anka zejjed gieli domt specjalment meta tara azzjoni ta kacca addejja.  Meravilja kbira.  Tipi u speci differenti ta hut u ghasafar jikaccjaw flimkien.

Kull min ikun delettant tal hut ma jistax ma jibqax impresjonat btali affarijiet.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: bigboy on May 27, 2010, 12:08:57 CET
veru jien daw l affarijiet narhom fuq il cameras tad divers meta jitilaw ;)

Nahseb din is sena nghamel il cors ax nixtieq nibda ninzel hemmisfel u ma min immur jihu d divers kuljum ghax dak xogholu gifiri ghandi c cans indur wrecks differenti
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: mellieha on May 27, 2010, 12:17:22 CET
Bigboy,

ir wrecks fihom il hajja ghax huma postijiet fejn il pariti ma jitilawx pero hawn postijiet naturali (int taf bizzejjed) min fejn hadd ma jitf pariti ghax ma jtellawhomx.  Hemmhekk post il hut ghax ghandu kull ha hemm bzonn.

Ghal hut huwa important li jkunu jistaw jiskennu u li jkollhom ikell x'jieklu. 

Umbghad mux kull post huwa l-istess u issib l-istess haga.

Ez 5 mtr south u tara Seahorses.  North ma noholmux l-istess u trid tinzel f'post particolari ghalihom.

Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: mellieha on May 27, 2010, 12:24:51 CET
Ha naqsam esperjenza mghakom.  Min irid jemmen jemmen.

Dive Spot particolari. 

Tlaqna ma reef 32m bottom 52m.  wara 3 minuti kwieti ta hut normali wasalna f'post kollu harqijiet.  Ftit ceren u cawluni jigru u jikaccjaw hemmhekk.  MAdwarna gliba vopi inimaginabli.  Madwarna kollu vopi.  Fuq naha minnhom xi 400 - 500 kahlija tielghin ir reef, u mad dawra ta barra il lizz idawwar il hut kollu.  Fil parti il fonda (52) il bonnijiet u il predaturi tar ramel bdew jafsu il vopi lejn il wicc.  Fi ftit minuti bdew jattakaw il lizz jidhlu wiehed wiehed.  Ilballun tal vopi telgha lejn il wicc u attakah ukoll l-ghasafar.  Il lizz baqa j'attakka sakemm feggew id denfil li ghenhom fdan il parti pero peress li ma ikordinawx sew id denfil u il lizz wara lewwel attack tad denfil sparizza kollox.

Ahna tlajna bil mod.  Blajna hafna hafna deco u dorna lura. 

Imsomma trid tkun hemm biex tesperjenza sew ghax id diskors mux bizzejjed.  Tibda tara kif tahdem l-ecosistema.

Adrian
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 27, 2010, 13:33:34 CET
Grazzi Adrian talli qsamt maghna dil-esperjenza sabiha tal-hut fl'ambjent naturali taghhom. 
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: Moonwalker on May 27, 2010, 14:30:22 CET
Prosit ta din it thread. Tafu jekk hawnx xi hadd malta ghandu video cameras underwater 200 - 300m? Jew jekk qatt xi hadd iffilmja is sikkek f dan il fond?
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: rokku_26 on May 27, 2010, 14:36:11 CET
jekk ikollok gps/plotter siehbi li itik  ix xfarijiet kollha isibhom  u aw minnhom li tkun tista tqabdu mal computer ukoll

Quote from: malliadan on May 24, 2010, 08:10:22 CET
Naf li mandix xtaqsam mal  fishing........aw xi had jista jtini il coordinates ta xi wrecks li aw mdawrin ma malta ax ma nista nsibom fuq l ebda ktieb, u nsaqsi lil dawk li gieli jwassluna qisek qed titlobom id deheb.

jien alijja iridhom biss biex nkun nista mmur boat dives fuqom ma siehbi, la biex nistad u laqqas biex niehu lin nies

Daniel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 27, 2010, 15:59:35 CET
thanks guys issa noqod trial and error mela u niprova nfittex bil fishfinder ukoll.....bilhaq ax semejtu li l hut jaraf meta tkun bl spear jew le....naqbel eh !!!! ax ninuta hafna jiena innizel camera kemm scubadiving u anka spearfishing (APNEA) u wara noqod ninnota l atitudni tal hut kemm tkun differenti

thanks xorta guys

Daniel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: shanook on May 27, 2010, 16:53:01 CET
eh bilhaqq malladian jekk issib xi xifer sabih ejdilna :)PPPP
jien bhalek imdorri in naha ta isfel ghallura irrid nerga nibda mill bidu u infettex naqra psotijiet.........ma hemx x'taghmel.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 27, 2010, 19:34:14 CET
ma nistax sorry ax inkella jinqered jekk najdilkom, li nsib ha nzommu alija u ngawdi minnu jiena bissssssssss!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

daniel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: baghira on May 28, 2010, 10:37:35 CET
Sewwa qed tghid mellieha.

Hafna drabi ma tara xejn izda tigi dik id darba fejn tidbellah bis sbuhija.
Darba blajt 30 min decompression go 25 meter biss lanqas temmen.

X ma tiblax, meta tara purcissjoni ta Dnieci ma wicci jirghu fin nofs, minbarra xi cerna enormi, festa ta sawrell, gurbell, u xi dott.......................

Dniefel qatt ma rajt imma...
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 28, 2010, 15:17:29 CET
dnieci darba rajt ukoll hdejn il faroud u enormi kienu eh qatt ma rajt daqsekk kbar.........u hemm stess accol ukoll blajt id deco habba daw ax damu hdeja, andi il video taghhom, tejdx kemm bdejt infaqqa grizmejja u nirifletti is sikkiena biex jibqaw (ma nafx hux alekk) imma damu jduru maghna

Daniel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: shanook on May 28, 2010, 16:42:41 CET
mela itfaw hawn il video halli niehdu naqra pjacir ahna ukoll, daniel.
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 29, 2010, 08:14:35 CET
ajduli daqxej kif  ???

xej xej naqta il kurzita ax miniex cert jekk hux accol jew sawrel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 29, 2010, 08:21:31 CET
ha nitfahhom fuq youtube u ntikom il link tajjeb
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: malliadan on May 29, 2010, 08:54:29 CET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orLdm8wFYDg

sorry for the cameraman imma kinet l ewwel dive tieghi bil camera xi 4yrs ilu nahseb

Daniel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: shanook on May 29, 2010, 09:37:40 CET
Well done daniel
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: busumark on May 29, 2010, 20:01:10 CET
acciol dawk ax ghandhom s sinjal fuq ghajnejhom
Title: Re: wrecks around malta
Post by: baghira on May 30, 2010, 10:56:15 CET
nice, I saw as such on the Rosi.