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Free Diving => Apnea - General => Topic started by: baghira on November 06, 2010, 20:48:46 CET

Title: Ear ache
Post by: baghira on November 06, 2010, 20:48:46 CET
Today was a day to forget for all the pain I have felt.
After a year of trouble with ears and sinuses, today was the climax.
On ascent my left ear did not equalize, and the eardrum was bulging out. I felt terrible pain and went to shore, after trying all sort of measures to beat the pain, Half of my face went numb, and I could not feel and control my tongue, lips, eye cover etc.
I was in panic, and asking what the hell happened to me.
I was on my own in pain and panic, but at surface, so I started swimming back as fast as I could.
After half an hour I arrived, and started feeling the senses comming back in my face. This was a very good sign cause I started thinking for the worse.
Hurried up home and my she took me to hospital to ease the eardrum pain.
Ended up that the only solution was panadols and bed. (and obvoiusly no spear).
I have to add that i was very cautious today and did not dive deep at all, in fact two of my buddies were in the water but I did not join them and decided to stick to shore (shallows).
The day started good, catching two nice sawrell imperjal, 1 octo, and 1 seabream from the shallow, but ended veryyyybad.
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: twoutes on November 06, 2010, 23:15:27 CET
I'm sorry that you cann't fully enjoy your passion for diving....But, don't mess with your health. ???
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: ggantno1 on November 06, 2010, 23:21:49 CET
Mhux biex naqtalek qalbek imma nahseb ahjar tieqaf  jew ghalinqas sakem issib soluzjoni  ghax jekk ha tibqa sejjer hekk ser tispica hazin. nahseb li kieku gralek hekk u kont tila minn  aktar fond l istorja kienet tkun hafna ghar . Habib tieghi spicca carat it Tambur ta widnejh hekk . U ibqa fuq kliemi li mhux xi haga sabiha li jigrilek hekk u izjed u izjed jekk tkun wahdek!!!! Gdluck
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: mike.d. on November 07, 2010, 06:50:28 CET
translate please, and get well soon silvio.
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: EmicMalta on November 07, 2010, 07:39:23 CET
thats really bad and I suggest not to dive at the moment. Did the doctors told you what was the problem? for sure there was a reverse blockage but you have to see what had caused it. Normally it happens to us when we have sinus. When have problems with ears doesn t make different diving in shallow and diving deep, cos even diving 2 mtr one have to compensate.

Did you started feeling it prom the first dives? did you ate butter before you dive?

ps: jaqaw kontu paradise bay ax rajt 2 divers fuq il blat jficcu lil xi hadt imma ma damux hafna
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: suffrun on November 07, 2010, 08:38:27 CET
I suggest that you visit an ENT consultant to have professional opinion. I do not wont to alarm you but it seems that a facial nerve might have been involved since, and according to your account, half of your face went numb.
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: baghira on November 07, 2010, 09:25:10 CET
All this is caused due to a shitty allergy that I have. Its a normal chronic allergy to dust etc. that half of the population has, and during daytime i have no problems at all, beside feeling a bit clogged sometimes. I have been using nasal steroids for this allergy years now and I never had such problems.

During the last year I could feel this ear (esutachian tube disfunction) often, and I have been thousand times to doctors, and hundreds to ENT Specialist, and I tried all sort of medications, beleive me even steroid injections  (the latter used to help me a lot but have many side effects).

To add to all 2 months ago I felt my sinuses hurting and i taught a common cold. Waited and went to the sea again, and i could not equalise, after some tries i succeded, but on the way up this time the sinuses did exactly as my ears. Sometimes I felt as if somtehing bursts and i spitted mucus but thick as chewing gum and dark brown greenish (something I never seen) and I went to hospital since that I could feel numb my tooth.

I tried to go to the sea after taking for 2 weeks clarinase, Zinat, Mucolitic, Xyloposs, Panadol Sinus, Zithromax, beconase, and also Xyzal.
When I taught all was over, I went to sea again but my sinus was the same and I was spitting red mucus with blood. Situation is still the same today and that is what happened yesterday.


I better stop for a while although I do not know how to suceed, but end of this Month I will undergo surgery to my sinuses and nose, and hope this is the solution for my problem. The problem is that my ENT (whom is a diver) is a bit sceptic if my trouble would end with this, since that he finds my problem very unusuall..

My all this be over in a month time.

Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: charlie on November 07, 2010, 09:33:21 CET
good luck for your op wishing you a full recovery for your problem
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: baghira on November 07, 2010, 09:37:01 CET
Yep emic.... That's exact reversed air block...
But no I did not eat butter.
The first couple of dives are ok usually, but when I do this repeatedly, after 1 hour I could feel a bit harder to equalise and many noises, and the more I stay the worse it gets. The inflammation causes swellling which blocks.

We were at popeye village bro. and the sea was very nice.

As ggantno1 said, if it was at 20 meters the problem would have been worse since that you compansate various times to go down, and these would reflect the amount of air that has to escape from the ear on the way up.
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: rammx on November 07, 2010, 10:13:41 CET
hey baghira...wish you a speedy recovery man
tc
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: jean on November 07, 2010, 10:59:45 CET
wish you all the best in recovering baghira!!! Take care boss
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: fabrizioviper on November 07, 2010, 12:23:23 CET
i suggest you should pay a visit to KRYPTON PHARM at swieqi and make an app with Mr Alec lapira TEL 21370141 he is a very good ENT spec.he ll solve your prob. i know its hard for us to stay out of the water but you have to take the nessesary time off.
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: caldaland on November 07, 2010, 12:28:26 CET
dont gamble with your life.be sure that you have solved the problem before you dive again. no daubt,everything will be solved sooner or later.
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: shanook on November 07, 2010, 16:27:22 CET
Yo Silvtake it easy man.........its better if u wait a bit and Hopefully u clear it up rather than doing damage.
Its not easy as the sea calls us and its hard to refuse either diving or fishing.
I wish u a speedy recovery................
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: maltembu on November 07, 2010, 17:44:12 CET
Quote from: fabrizioviper on November 07, 2010, 12:23:23 CET
i suggest you should pay a visit to KRYPTON PHARM at swieqi and make an app with Mr Alec lapira TEL 21370141 he is a very good ENT spec.he ll solve your prob.

Yep.. the guy is good !!!

Get well soon Baghira...
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: fisheye on November 07, 2010, 18:20:14 CET
I am very sorry for your health problem Bagira. One can easly see how passionate and keen you are of your hobby from your posts on this forum, which are amongst the most interesting posts. Hope you get well soon and be able to practice again your hobby but in the mean time stay safe. Good luck
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: baghira on November 08, 2010, 13:49:01 CET
Thanks guys I appreciate a lot.
It is unevitable to be somehow depressed due to such a situation.

Fabrizio is this the pharmacy  furhter up the road of the eden century cinema, passing under the tunnel and to the right?? Malcolm Ross a profesional underwater photographer mentioned to me this pharmacy.

Do you think it is wise to go to another ENT right now, or wait for the operation which will be held end of month? Would they conflict in their interests!
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: robby017 on November 08, 2010, 16:46:45 CET
get well soon silv....
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: EmicMalta on November 08, 2010, 16:59:30 CET
if there is sinus involved ask about some food that you can t take. For example I used to take an ice cream after a dive, and soon after I started to have problems. As I know that canal of the ear is very hard to clean, so be extra sure that your clean before you dive. Some times I used to stay even 6 weeks out.
Just a thing that I do normally, after havin long surface time I have to clean my nose otherwise I have to stop. Remember that dive at comino and how I blocked. Once I talking with apnea instructor and told him about this problem. He told me due that we breath from our mouth, the body use to move all the dirty to our nose with the conseguence of having blockage even in the ear. Once having dirty in the ear its not easy to get back again, only time
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: rixa444 on November 08, 2010, 18:02:53 CET




Medications recommended may include:

•Antihistamines
•Decongestants taken by mouth or by a nose spray
•Steroids
These medications may relieve nasal congestion and allow the eustachian tube to open. Antibiotics may prevent ear infection if barotrauma is severe.

If the tube will not open with other treatments, surgery may be necessary. A surgical cut is made in the eardrum to allow pressure to become equal and fluid to drain (myringotomy). However, surgery is rarely necessary.

If you must make frequent altitude changes or you are susceptible to barotrauma, you may have tubes surgically placed in the eardrum.
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: fabrizioviper on November 08, 2010, 18:12:40 CET
hi silvio, i don t think its the same pharmacy you re refering to. Krypton pharmacy you find it by keep going on the way to st andrews, turn left after the lights where jessie s bar is, then after around 100 mtrs or so you find it on your right hand side. but first call for an appointment. if i was in your situation i would go for a second opinion,especially after being treated for a whole year.
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: KurtGurat on July 24, 2024, 09:01:25 CET
I also suffer from sinuses. Sometimes i dive 7m and minimal pain in my head, and sometimes I cant even dive 3m. I dont now what can I do. Also, I dont actually know how to equalize the pressure in my ears. Can someone teach me how please?
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: Lghawdxi on July 24, 2024, 09:58:23 CET
Hey kurtgurat I think jf you close your nose with your hands. Till you hear a pop you might equalise the pressure
Title: Re: Ear ache
Post by: Ribolovac on July 24, 2024, 17:36:17 CET
Raise your head as high as possible, tilt it as far back as you can, and swallow as if you are swallowing a large piece of food.