thinking of buying an electric reel for deep sea fishing. does anyone have one?
Deepsea is the expert on electric reels. I am very interested too, however the intial investment is too high. I'm trying to design one myself out of a high speed 12v hand drill. The torque is good, and the speed should be fine.
you have to fish in dephts more than 300mt and you will have a 1.5kg weight and hopefuly a nice fish i dont know if the drill is strong enough. and if you have the line counter is better because you will know when the weight is nearly on the bottom
Will have to try it and I'll let you know.
I am looking at buying my first electric reel , I never fished in deeper than 120mtrs before & would like to give it a try this year. Can anyone that has experiance with these kind of reels supply me with model & make of the reel would be the best to invest in. I have been told that it is better to spend a little more money & get a deascent one in the fist place.
tatanka firstu have to decide how far out at sea u want to go. 450mts are close to the 10mile mark but deeper waters like 750 mtrs are in the 15 mile range these are approximate depths as on the south it gets deep closer to land.
u want to decide this as the depth makes a difference as to which reel to get.
Second selection do u want a rod type reel or one to mount on the boat.
for 450mtr range a miya epoch 4 or a Daiwa 1000 are more than enough. deaper waters u need the miya epoch 8 at least
If u want the mounted ones than the Kristal 410 is good for both 450 mtrs as well as the 750/1000 mtrs.
Always ber in mind that spectra is expensive. in the 450 mtr range an 80Lbs one is good but in the 750 mtr range u need a 140lbs one to bring in the hnizer.
If u need more ask, someone will always answer here.
Good luck regarding buying either u choose a Maltese shop or get it from abroad its ur choice.
Shanook, Thanks for taking your time & explaining the different possibilities. At the time being I will surely not go further out than 10 miles as I would not feel comfortable out there with the present boat , never know maybe one day will get a bigger one. So by the suggestions I rekon I will go for the miya epoch 4.
A couple of friends of mine told me that if you go out from the south and just past Filfla there is about +/- 250mtrs depth & good chances of catching some Bazug , Never caught any of them before.
So i guess that the reel would be more than sufficient for that kind of fishing. with regards to this reel is it ok to have it installed on a rod not mounted to the boat. Thanks again for the info. Not sure if I will buy it localy or off the net as there is a couple of bargains , Is there a specific Braided line that I should spool the reel with.
Just to let you know Tatanka and others that " Kristal" rods and reels are more cheaper from sicily than Malta.
Quote from: Perla 165 on October 26, 2008, 15:10:44 CET
Just to let you know Tatanka and others that " Kristal" rods and reels are more cheaper from sicily than Malta.
Perla thaks for the info do Kristal make electric reels & rods for them. Have never come across that name before.
Kristall fishing make boat mounted reels as well as rod reels. The rod reels are expensive, doesnt mean the mounted ones are cheap, but reasonable.The Miya Epoch 4hp is rod mounted so u need to buy a rod as well.
do u want to buy a second hand one or brand new. Yes the line has top be spectra line because of the thin diameter and NO stretch otherwise u will never feel the fish biting.
anyone tried the XL 410 of kristal fishing?? what's ur opinion about it??
can you regulate the spped for the retrieve?? or is it fixed at 80m/s?? and if so is it a problem??
thanks in advance
there is one that has speed control (expense goes up naturally). its different from having a rod reel.
U can make a seperate speed control unit if u want to (reduced expense).
try to buy the one that has auto stop otherwise u can lose ur line and fish.
apart from that happy fishing. Oh its bulky compared to rod reels.
My retrieve is 0ne and a half times faster (miya epoch)
10q 4 d reply mate.
but are there any kristal fishing reels with the auto stop??
hi ganni
on the local market there are now Kristal Fishing rod reel
Model XL635 with variable speed (0 to 130mt./min ) retail ?365
same model Xl630 without variable speed ( speed is 130 mt./min against an XL 410 that has a speed of 80 mt./min )?290
from ta bormla in mosta there's an offer on the rod if you buy together and he has dyneema 0.35 31kg at a reasonable price as well
ON XL 630 & XL 635 models drop weight recommended 500g (they carry 2 years guarantee)
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I will be building a variable speed box for Kristal Fishing reels (should work for other reels too which do not have electronics inbuilt). Its still in sketch but hopefully first sample will be ready soon. If anyone is interested PM me. Still have to calculate price also.
yes the 410 has auto stop not electronic but will do.
Hi Guys, I just bought a simple electric reel (banax Kaigen 500) from ebay and am wondering about the power supply. My 18 ft open boat has two batteries with two mains making it possible to rivert to just one battery when the motor is off. Accordingly I am thinking of pluging the reel to the 'off' battery. Can someone tell me what type of power drain I would experience for ...say... 4 hours of bottom fishing at abt 100 mtrs? Do I need a dedicated battery for an electric reel?
My Miya Command x4 take about 5A when loaded. So if you reel in half of the time it means that you only take 10Ah from battery. I prefer to use the same battery of the motor so when you move position the battery get some charge back.
Hi Moonwalker..tks for the info... actually when motor is on..I make sure that both batteries are connected... it is only when I am 'draining' power (fishfinder / reel) do I switch to just one battery - this ensures that the disconnected battery remains 'tale quale' and ready to go before starting up. So you would definitely do away with a dedicated battery...good..))
i use mine exactly likeu said steve andnever had problems. When I go with Busu I take a battery with me. I have used it for 3 times now. fishing in 240mts, 400mtrs and last time we went in 790ntrs,all this on the same charge. i placed it on charge after the third fishing trip. Oh by the way the miya cx4hp had to have a rest after reeling in twice from 700mrs with a 3kg weight. It over heated and we had to reel in the last 20mtrs by cranking handle........the Kristal kept going like it was still on the first drop.
Shanook,why do you use 3kg weight? Is it because you want to get it to the bottom quickly or because there is strong currents at that depth?
for those depths u need a weight from 2.5 onwards otherwise u never hit bottom. it takes a long time to get to those depths and even a small current will make a difference.
...guys///what are your experiences with baits for bottom fishing? squid / octopus? ARe there any fishing charts on the net?
tell fishfinder his bearings are very productive :D :D :D. joking fishfinder
3Kg is too much for the CX4. You should not use more than 2kg which is more than enough to reach 600m and over. And if you want to use more weight then slow down the speed when pulling up.
I use 1.25kg weights for all depths and can reach up to 600m if there is not much current.
Last time i tried in about 450 metres or so, there was some current but no tooo much, the problem i had is whith the current pushes the boat the lead at the bottom keeps moving and jumping on the bottom. is that something bad? i was letting some line out so its always on the bottom, and also do you feel the fish hit? i caught a xabla and didnt even notice
yes moonwalker if there isnt a lot of current then a 1.5 to 2 kg is ok. but in 800mtrs with a bit of current than u will have to let out a lot of line and as u know the miya4 doesnt have that much line to spare in 800 mtrs.
Lapsi its like fishing with a normal rod. if the line is on the bottom than u dont feel the strike but if the line is taught (that is weight off the bottom and the rod a bit bent with the weight) thean u will feel the fish or at ealst see the tip of the rod twitching.
What do you catch in 800m shanook? Some shrimps maybe :)
you always catch the bottom or some nylon
yea those. oh and busu caught a gringu........so there must be something down there...it was not our intention to go deeper than 600mts but as the finder we had could make it to 400 mts there was no way to check the exact depth apart from experience and the chart.
Hehe - bottom and nylon and nets you catch even at 200m :)
One more thing - using a weight shaped like a bullet I find it goes much faster down than the same weight cylinder form.
i like the spherical form better. As it doesnt sway from one side to another but strainght down.
Will try a spherical form then and check how fast it goes. Any idea who sells them?
Guys my problem is not the shape but if il find any weights! :( Cannot find big sizes 600/700/800 gr. But I went to Ta Bormla last week and he told me he should be getting spherical (round) sizes some time next week. I would imagine that bullet shape will be better than round sizs due to the drag, but if he gets i will buy a few to try them out!
Just a thought SteveGB With regards to your problem sourceing fishing weights. Do you or can you get your hands on any scrap lead in Malta, ? Iknow it might sound like a daft question, but all the times I have been to Malta Ive never seen any !!!! But if you can, you can get some brilliant lead moulds and make you own in any size you want. I know because I make all my own for beach casting and Boat fishing using moulds that I buy from our fishing shops over here, just thought it might be worth mentioning if your going to use a lot.
Moonwalker
800m am int ha taqbad xejn u jekk italla xi huta tibza taqbada daqs kemm tkun kera.
@SteveGB - Mr fish has (had) big sizes bullet shaped. Did not see any round shaped there but will ask him next time.
@noz -I do them myself using a mould since it would be quite expensive otherwise but its messy and dangerous when melting high volume of Lead. Its also not easy to find raw lead these days.
@jessijames - s issa l ikrah hut li rajt hu il gringu u ic cintorin. Ma nafx jekk xi hadd qabadx xi hut iehor stramb mil fond.
Moonwalker... just be aware that lead fumes are the deadliest fumes one can breathe. They are extremely carcinogenic and need all necessary precautions such as proper cross ventilation etc.
more than that is the black dust coming out from lead which deposit in your body and never go out again!
wash hands when handling lead
i am interested in the daiwa tanacom bull 1000fe as an elctric reel which from the net is about 560 euros
its a nice reel the difference from the daiwa and the miya is that the daiwa does jigging as well. The miys has a bit more powerful motor. Both of them are good for med depth fishing. Mind u, I am comparing the daiwa 1000 with its equivalent the Miya4. As there are other miya larger than that.
moonwalker the guy u bought the boat from (David) has lead for sale for deep drop. if u dont have his number its 79659422
Yes miya X6HP does jigging too.
Thanks shanook for the number.