Hi guys i have bought a new boat marinello and i am thinking of using nubian antifauling anyone has used it?
nubian is fine and also international , for the last 2 yrs i used wurth good quality and its cheaper too .
Quote from: Malcolm X on December 21, 2011, 21:23:42 CET
Hi guys i have bought a new boat marinello and i am thinking of using nubian anti fauling anyone has used it?
First of all good luck with your new boat very nice boat, may I ask if you are going to leave the boat moored at sea for the summer or you are going to haul your boat every time you need to use it? in such case you will not need to put any anti fouling.
i am going to leave it at sea in summer on my other boat i used wurth epoxy and antifauling but a frend told me to try nubian.
I like the international marine..........
I use Nubian and have been using it for 4 years. I use the white shade. It always did it's job! Make sure you use the Nubian Primer before your first coat and read the instructions (especially for the Primer) carefully!
ok thanks good to hear that someone used nubian.international is good but very expensive .
@Malcolm X: If you intend to leave the boat in the water as you stated above, may I suggest you treat the bottom with a reputable water barrier, like West System or International Gelshield. This barrier works as a prevention to the formation of Osmosis.
Thanks Gaffer i called west system and i spoke to someone and told everything about the water barrier it looks that thay have a good product.
@Malcolm X: I've always used West System on my boats. Agree, its a bit pricey, but the quality and reliability of West System is second to none. Also, their after sales service, both locally, the UK and USA, are very efficient, providing great friendly service. You can read all about it by following this link:
http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php/topic,1599.0.html
Quote from: Malcolm X on December 23, 2011, 10:33:13 CET
Thanks Gaffer i called west system and i spoke to someone and told everything about the water barrier it looks that thay have a good product.
If you need any advice on west system and how to apply it, just send me a PM, or better still, post here so others can follow the dicussion.
before u apply the water barrier please consult ur boat manufacturer or dealer as there are new composites in boat construction that actually dont need a barrier. Just a primer and antifouling..........
west system is the best but all epoxy on the market are good too , i have used Csystem of gauciborda price is also good . more brands you can find is veneziani ., System Three Resins at dagata marine , and Hempel GelProtect SFE200 kordin il fabrika, and boero at nautica, the concern about epoxy is how you apply it, and humidity
Hi guys thanks allot for your feedback this morning i went to west marine and bought everything from them ( i know the guy there he lives near my mum in Paola and me and his son know each other but never new they have this product).Gaffer the only problem i have is the temperature because it says minimum working temp is 16 deg so i think i have to wait a little bit more before applying the product as for mixing he gave me a chart and 2 pumps.The only concern i have is that after applying it by roller he told me to cut a roller in two and use half (of the roller )to smooth the resign.
@malcolm x: no need to split the rler in 2. I'm using an iPhone at the moment, so I will post a proper answer later on.
ok thanks for your help
Applying the west system water barrier is only one third of the challenge. Your biggest challenge is preparing the hull and bottom before application. First mark the hull where the waterline will be. Then you need to sand down the glazed gelcoat, preferably using a 400 grit wet or dry sandpaper. Once you have removed the glazing, commence washing down the hull and bottom.You need to use a special detergent to get into the gelcoat to remove all traces of mould release from the gelcoat. Wash down with soft soap and water, and dry thuroughly.
West system epoxy water barrier requires 6 coats, done one after each other. As soon as the first coat is applied and becomes tacky, commence the second coat and so forth. Make sure you follow the instructions on blending the epoxy+hardner to the barrier provided. Apply each coat in a crossed way. If your first coat was applied using horizontal passes, your second coat is to be applied using vertical passes. Change passes with every coat. This ensuress full coverage and proper adherence of the coats.
Temperature is crucial, but I understand there are 3 types of harder you can use. There is the fast hardner, the normal, and slow hardner, depending on the atompheric temperature when applying the epoxy. Right now, I would opt for a fast hardner. Apply using a 3 inch roller, ensuring an even spread throughout. Change rollers for every coat.
I believe the last epoxy coating also contains an anti-fouling compound that you add to the epoxy before applying it. Compound colour is deep red, and this is mixed into the epoxy. Once applied, allow for a few days to completely dry and adhere, then you can sand down (roughen up) using 250grit sandpaper. Wash down with soft soap and water, and your bottom is ready for anti-fouling.
The first part is ready i sand the gelcoat all i need is to wash it i alread bought every on the hardner is writen 206 slow hardner.
ok than i will go to west marine and ask for a faster hardner.