jiena ghandi dajsa 13.6 ft issa jiena irrijt nixtri mutur sper imma tejt xlahhjar 5 hp 4 stroke
jew ikbar pls help
jiddependi kemm thobb tghabbija piz u hemm is-soltu tohrog il-barra habib.dawn kollha jiffetwaw.jaf hemm ragunijiet ohra wkoll li bla dubju jighduhomlok il-membri l-ohra.
bejn 6 hp u 5 hp mhux sipost hemm xi diferenza kbira fil piz. dejjem ahjar daqxejn izjed sahha
jien ghall bucanner ta i3 feat u jien nabbijla nies 3 tejt xnamel6 hp jew 9.9
9.9
isa tejt min fjn nixtrih gdid
suzuki or yamaha
yamaha
x hinu l mutur tan nofs biex tara kemm ha ikollok piz fuq wara meta toddhom t tnejn
habib ntik parir fuq il yamaha.
Tixtrix muturi zghar sa 8hp ghax jinstaddu hafna jekk ma tkunx bniedem li tiehu hsiebu u tuzah frekwenti.
Personali habib bhala outboard nippreferi mercury jew mariner ( l istess magna ghandhom minghalija - brumswick)
Xbajt niftah minnhom bis sadd - muturi tajbin immens mekkanikament imma l metall taghhom "jimrad" - l godda s issa mux hazin imma ma nafdax yamaha kieku minnek.
Personali ghalija l mercury/mariner (d differenza hija l brand u finishing) bhalissa qed joffru muturi tajbin hafna fis suq ghax xol li trid.
Jekk ma tridx tonfoq hafna hawn ukoll muturi Selva li huma magna ta yamaha imma jinbieghu b nofs l prezz ta yamaha.
Quote from: busumark on January 29, 2012, 20:20:21 CET
x hinu l mutur tan nofs biex tara kemm ha ikollok piz fuq wara meta toddhom t tnejn
Ara sew x mutur andek fin nofs ax 9.9 mhux hafif, u wara kolox trid tara kemm titbijad ax toqod tixtri muturi spare kbar, piz zejjed narah. Jekk tistad jew tuh max xatt qas haqq mutuwri kbar. Jien 13" andi u tan nofs 25hp. Tejjeb pero zgur li ma npggiex 9.9hp bhala spare.
Granitu: fuq selva ma najd xejn pero ma nistax nifem din il haga li huma l istess bhal yamaha.
bhala magna emic huma l istess magna yamaha 2 stroke (llum discontinued).
l mariner ezempju ghandu l istess magna tal mercury.
Biex isir iktar marketing inholqu brands u l istess prodott ikun branded differenti. B hekk tinholoq speci ta kompetizzjoni bejn prodotti maghmula mill istess kumpanija
Issa l agenti malta igibu mariner u mercury ezempju. Nista nghidlek li mill fabbrika jitilqu bl istess prezz, pero jinbieghu prezz differenti Malta.
Jekk taqbad parts catalogue ukoll tiduna li certu parts huma l istess. Jien ma kontx nemmen, imma meta tara l affarijiet b ghajnejk ma tibdiex temmen.
Jaf ikun emm varjanzi, pero huma simili hafna. Li nnutajt li bhala muturi s selva li m hemmx l finish u rfinar tal yamaha. Pero jinbieghu gili kwart tal prezz tal yamah.
Li jghodd emic imma hafna drabi hija l mekkanika u f dak r rigward l mekkanika hija simili hafna jew l istess tant li certu parts jew l parts kollha huma l istess. pero tmur ghand l agent tal yamaha (tafu min hu) u tixtrihom 4 darbiet iktar.
Nheggigkom ukoll ssaqsu meta tkunu ha tixtru parts, tiskantawx li ssibu gaskets ta mutur ikun ezatt bhal tieghek u jkun ta ditta differenti. Hafna mill profitt mill outboards ma jsirx mill outboard, imma mill parts li jkun em bzonn tixtrilhu.
Dil gimgha mort nixtri impeller ghal magna volvo li m ghand hanut partikulari sibtu 23 euro, packaging tal volvo. Meta fittixt iktar fuq l pompa sibt li tigi mwahhla fuq magni ohra apparti l volvo u sibta bil prezz ta Eur 10.65. coded differenti brand differenti, pero l istess prodott.
R realta hi li hawn hafna serq fil wicc
jien meta kont rajt is selva 40hp kien tani prezz ta fuq 5600 euro bid discount u tal yamaha 40hp fuq 6200euro minajr ebda discount. Ma rajtc li hemm xi differenza kbira fil prezz, wara kollox tigi biex tbijaw selva jibqa selva u yamaha dejjem yamaha, b kull rispett lil agenti.
isma kolla tqal ta ek 9,9 malajr jizen xi 45 kg il 4troke fuq dajsa zajra ikollok 90kg muturi igifiri tnejn tqal jigu matanc i idea tajba. wahal wihed zajr
Jien fuq dghajsa Fastfisher 14 Open u mutur 50HP Evinrude ETEC qed nithajjar nixtri jew Honda 5HP jew Suzuki 6HP. Dwar il-Honda l-mekkanik tieghi qalli li huma ekonomici hafna, smooth u trouble free ghax ghandu wiehed hu stess. Is-Suzuki kulhadd jaf li huma muturi eccellenti u l-agent taghhom huwa tajjeb hafna wkoll. ll-Honda qeghdin xi 1385 Euros izda s-Suzuki ma nafx ghax bhalissa l-agent m'ghandux. Qalli li ghandhom jidhlu fi Frar. Jien nippreferi Suzuki anke ghall-fatt li bhala toqol jizen 24.9kg filwaqt li l-Honda jizen 27.2kg.
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Sew ghidt daward dwar il prezz ax jien meta icekjat dawk l prezzijit tawni fuq 4 stroke pero yamaha kien mudel ta sena ta qabel u l ihor kienu ta dik is sena. Isa jekk ha tixtri mutur biex kif idejqek tbieghu naqbel mijek imma jekk ha tixtri mutur li tixtiq tibqa bih nahseb andu ragun granitu ax ser tifranka ammont ta flus tajjeb u kul mu ser ikolok differenti huwa l isem. Jien yamaha andi u parts nixtri ta selva u huma ftit irhas ! kugin tieghi andu mariner u jixtri parts tal mercury skond x jaqbilu. Jien nejd alija naqbel mal granitu fl aspet li hafna kumpaniji li jbighu l parts tkun et thallashom ta l isem u mux tal kwalita.!
ggantno1, hawn serq kbir fuq spare parts ingenerali. L profitt li jsir, mill inqas nista nghidlek li la hu etiku u wisq anqas dicenti. Daylight robbery!
ha ntikhom ezempju zghir li kelli wiehed isaqsini fuqhom.
Hafna meta taghtu service lil muturi lkoll tindunaw li jkollhom/jitolbukhom tiztru l gaskets tal muturi. Din l procedura ssir hafna meta jsir tindif fil cooling system. Normalment l gaskets tar rubber kollha jinbieghu maqtghuin lesti Eur 6 - 10 (dan hu l prezz tal yamaha). u jkollok bzonn mill inqas 3 (2 ghal cooling system, 1 al head tal mutur). L gasket tas cylinder head ikun jaqbel li tinxtrata ghax ikun emm s seals tal pistons u area li mhux ta min jabbuza maghha (din tkun tiswa xi eur 20).
Tajjeb issa jekk taqbad l antiki taghmel stencil semplici b karta strazza jew injam plywood irqiqa (kemm taqbad l gasket antika twahhal fuq l injam u taqta l injam) folja rubber tal gaskets 1m x 1.5 m tixtrija Eur 3.5 minn ebay. Prattikament ghandek l affarijiet tal produzzjoni tal gasket lesti u gaskets lesti u Minflok infaqt xi Eur 25 b eur 5 lest u jifdallek rubber bizzejjed biex tohrog xi 8 gaskets ohra.
Issa jekk dan mhux serq ma nafx x naqbad nsejjahlu
isma granitu certu parts expensive mil fabrika ta.. ikun vera serq meta l agenti ta malta jaqbdu il prezz original u jirdupiawh dak serq, pero ma tistax ti generalizza xorta