Malta Fishing Forum

Free Diving => Apnea - Spearfishing => Topic started by: Breathless on February 05, 2012, 11:37:29 CET

Title: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: Breathless on February 05, 2012, 11:37:29 CET
Hello People...

yesterday i bought a paid of hydrofoils to be fitted on my 40hp Tohatsu, did anyone ever try a similar setup before i start drilling the cavitation plate?

Manufacturer claims a much smoother ride, getting on the plane in half the time, staying on the plane at lower speed, 20% less fuel and a an increase in speed.

I would appreciate your feedback.....
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: bigboy on February 05, 2012, 11:56:45 CET
I had them installed on my 15hp Evenrude and they worked very well :)
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: yogi on February 05, 2012, 12:20:15 CET
i have installed hydrofoils about a year ago on my motor and i feel it planes better , be sure they are appropriate size for your motor and also use DUROLAC anti corrosion liquid in the holes you drill
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: ggantno1 on February 09, 2012, 18:30:06 CET
Hi big what were the benefits  after installing them  ?
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: bigboy on February 09, 2012, 21:19:18 CET
boat keeps on the plane at lower speed, by boat was not a planing hull and managed to plane with them
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: ggantno1 on February 09, 2012, 23:51:35 CET
Thankx big I have a set but I am a little afraid to drill the outboard becouse of the corrosion
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: Vagabond on February 11, 2012, 01:00:54 CET
Hmm... these Hydrofoils got my interest and I'm willing to give them a try.. anybody knows where I can get one for 2 stroke Yamaha 9.9? (mill bluni)... even if they are used no prob as long as in good condition.
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: ggantno1 on February 11, 2012, 02:21:42 CET
They dont cost a lot about 25euro if I'm not mistaken . Caruana Marine center was the last shop I saw them .
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: Vagabond on February 11, 2012, 14:24:22 CET
Quote from: ggantno1 on February 11, 2012, 02:21:42 CET
They dont cost a lot about 25euro if I'm not mistaken . Caruana Marine center was the last shop I saw them .

Thanks ggantno1 ! :) ..Will let you all know how it goes before/after, as soon as I have them fitted ;)
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: ggantno1 on February 11, 2012, 22:05:53 CET
ok thankx my only worry is  drilling the outboard and risking that corrosion starts its way up
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: dgal0021 on February 12, 2012, 10:59:40 CET
ggantno1 - There are hydrofoils on the market which you do not have to drill the outboard for. They fasten themselves with types of clamps etc. However they are more expensive.

Hope it helps!
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: ggantno1 on February 12, 2012, 12:09:08 CET
How much more pls?
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: dgal0021 on February 12, 2012, 19:58:16 CET
I do not know cause it varies from model to model but i dont know local prices because i searched on the internet for one. I would like to attach one but will not risk drilling holes in the motor especially if there are alternatives!
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: Breathless on February 13, 2012, 21:55:21 CET
This is the site that offers hydrofoils where you do not need to drill the anti cavitation plate. Read a couple of reviews where the hydeofoil simply fell off, and installing them seems to be a bit tricky too.

http://stingrayhydrofoils.com/

I think i am going to go ahead and fit the Easterner hydrofoils i purchased from Mecca.... Then will see how it all goes. So far i have not heard anyone commenting negatively so i am assuming that they are good
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: malvizzu on February 14, 2012, 14:16:37 CET
These Stingray hydrofoils seem interesting although I am sceptical on how they hold on tight. Reviews are not very encouraging. I was viewing the Permatrim for some time now but am not too much inclined to having to drill through the cavitation plate.

http://www.permatrims.com/

Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: Breathless on February 14, 2012, 17:57:18 CET
http://www.gulfstreamshop.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=4153

These are the ones i bought, it seems that they reallly make a difference especially on small boats.
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: lazyfisherman on February 14, 2012, 19:10:21 CET
Not that I know much about these things but if it were my call I would definitely not drill through the plate of a 4000 or 5000 euro outboard to fit 16 sterling worth of hydrofoil!
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: baghira on February 14, 2012, 19:45:19 CET
Nice dilemma ehh guys??
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: yogi on February 14, 2012, 23:22:04 CET
come on just drill it! you are speaking like your going to drill in the palm of your hand lol.  use some anti corrosion liquid and that's it
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: bigboy on February 15, 2012, 08:45:10 CET
Whats the big deal about drilling the outboard ???????
Drill, use anti corrosion liquid (brunox is very good) and if needs be mask out the area where the hyds will be attatched, sand down and re spray with suitable paint...... and you will surely not have any corrosion problems. To be extra cautionate apply marine grease to the holes aswell before fastening the Bolds.
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: yogi on February 15, 2012, 20:46:14 CET
TEFGEL is the best, you can buy it from dagata marine , or else DUROLAC from gauci borda, they are liquids made to prevent corrosion between dissimilar metals . what happens is that stainless steel in contact with aluminum will create galvanic erosion and sea water will work as a conductor,  the anti corrosion liquid will isolate the dissimilar metals , be sure to NOT USE COPPER PASTE on aluminum
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: baghira on February 16, 2012, 08:15:38 CET
These are made of plastic I assume!
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: bigboy on February 16, 2012, 09:18:26 CET
I had used iron bolds on mine since iron does not create any reactions with aluminium
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: yogi on February 16, 2012, 19:25:04 CET
baghira the bolts to hold it in place are plastic too ? lol


bigboy good move to use steel, but galvanized bolts are not good for the job.
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: baghira on February 16, 2012, 20:04:54 CET
okies... I seee
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: lazyfisherman on February 16, 2012, 22:20:48 CET
 If hydrofoils improve performance significantly, why don't outboard manufacturers simply design their outboards with a bigger cavitation plate in the first place ? Just wondering...  :-\
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: camel10 on February 17, 2012, 12:50:19 CET
I have fitted a pair on my Tohatsu 30hp 4 stroke and made a big difference. It planes sooner than before it stays on planes at lower speed, it stabilizes the boat on plane better. I fully recommend them. I have on my  Albatross 390 with Tohatsu 30hp 4 st.
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: Breathless on February 17, 2012, 19:27:37 CET
What brand are the foils u installed? U got them from Mecca? As i believe that the shape the foil has make a huge difference
Title: Re: Hydrofoils on outboard motor
Post by: yogi on February 17, 2012, 19:37:24 CET
Lalizas LZ-Hydrofoil Gullwing Stabilizing System , these are very good over 50hp