Ok Guys so I always wanted to get into surf-casting . After buying a surf rod and some equipment ( like sinkers with spikes , bait clips ect ect) yesterday I hit the beach with my friend. We went to Golden Bay from about 9.00pm till about 1.00am. The problem is ..... we didnt catch ANYTHING !!! Now I know that maybe it was our first time and I wasn't expecting much - but NO BITES at all was a bit embarrasing. I'm sure my rigs were fine ( i was using a paternoster exactly as i saw on a surf-casting website) . we were using mini-squids as bait. I think maybe the problem was that there was a lot of grass ( alka) around and we always managed to hook up clumps of grass when we retrieved our rigs. Maybe it was just the wrong wind. Any pointers guys ? Any other places worth trying?
Hi Sergio,
Any luck as yet with surfcasting? I have been trying and trying and as yet, a few bites, a friend caught one nice sargu, and lots of alga!!!! All this over practically the entire winter. So i can state that i was highly unsucessfull. Thing is that now i am returning to fish of rocks, such as at sliema etc (were prievously i cuaght a couple of nice fish) and nothing aswell!!!! I'm either loosing my touch or just become really really unlucky ??? ??? ???
well mate , i too have been trying to fish the surf. the problem is that it's a highly unpredictable style of fishing . sometimes not even a single bite during the whole night ! the problem here is that our beaches are too small to hold a sizable amount of fish. in other countries, the beaches have lots of features such as dunes and algae on the seabed. also, there will be lots of bait on the seabed. therefore , the tide is a crucial factor as when it comes in , the fish come in to feed. here in malta it's quite difficult. considering the amount of money that needs to be spent on surf rods and reels ( regular tackle just doesnt cut it) , you need to figoure out whether it's worth investing in a style of fishing which does not guarantee many catches.
Interesting to read, at least it's heads up that maybe surf/beach casting doesn't fit too well with the Maltese shoreline.
I used to do a lot of surf casting myself and the truth is that sometimes it does get very boring with hardly any bites but then, you get a day when each time you cast gets productive and this day makes up for all the times you went for nothing!
During the night, the only bait we had good results with are king rag worm (Hniex ta l-imperjal). To be honest it's been some three/four years since I went last and therefore haven't tried these new baits "bibi", etc... I just was hooked to using ragworm.
regarding places I used to go to l-Ahrax. it's quite akward getting down there but from that area we used to hook nice sargi and griebel which quite often were over the kilo mark. If you start fishing early before sunset all you get are brieqex therefore it's not really worthed so we used to start fishing around 9.00pm till early morning.... 4.00am maybe.
but at l ahrax there is no bays? it is difficult to catch from bays as they are not suited for this fish unlike sicily, france and others.
In my 2 cent opinion, it is just not worth to go fishing, buying rag worm and using it on a beach when from rocky places it probably is more productive
It is just my 2 cent, you might encounter something but as my friend sergio said(fishing companion) it is not very rewarding
No. No bays there, you're right Granitu. it's just a rocky alternative. If it's strictly bays you want then the only good option through experience is Comino. At that time I didn't have a boat and we used to hire a luzzu who used to take us there for the night and call for us early morning. Mnieges, Sargi and somtimes even big Kahli were on the menu!
yes that is right. it is good for one occasion but bad for many others. it is just not worth to spend 1000euros to have decent gear for surf and catch few or nothing.
Hi emicmalta,very simple rig,12" loop which goes aroun the weight [1 oz],2ft of line with a 1/0 hook at the top of the loop hanging freely baited with 3 or 4 small ragworm,similar in size what you buy from pirotta.fish near the bank not out in mid stream.
My friend from comino i caught the biggest fish.....but as usual it depends on many things some times you go and there is notthing as granitu said.
You haven't really got the beaches for it, I was fishing a surf beach on Saturday which is West facing into the Atlantic, & it is 7 miles ~ 12k long, there were waves coming in & breaking 300m off the beach & the water was stirred up, the Golden Grey Mullet were in shoals virtually under your feet, & I caught quite a few, with the best being 48.5cm long.
I also had numerous small bass up to about 0.5kg, & 2 small flatfish, all the fish were measured & returned, as part of the rules of the RNLI Charity Fishing Competition. Other days, you can go to the same beach in daylight when there is very little surf, & catch very little or nothing, so its the surf conditions that dictate the catch mainly, & with your small beaches, you are missing that vital element, but your rock fishing is superb. I love the stealth you need to catch the fish in your clear water, & I have much to learn, & much to experiment with, to see if I can catch some of your bream from the shore, & a lampuki from the boat.
blueskip
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Well done Skip, I will study how to do it, that doesn't mean that I will succeed, but I will study it anyhow, it cant be TOO difficult, (can it)? :o
blueskip
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Hi emicmalta,very simple rig,12" loop which goes aroun the weight [1 oz],2ft of line with a 1/0 hook at the top of the loop hanging freely baited with 3 or 4 small ragworm,similar in size what you buy from pirotta.fish near the bank not out in mid stream.
sorry mate, but cannot understand what you mean? In hatIm involved??? ;) If I get more time and more power I would go for spearfishing but for Casting i m still new
Anyone interested in a beachcasting session??Ilna ma nmorru wahda ;)
Kev, curious....what do you normally catch beachcasting?
nothing..... or a vopa
@ Robby017 thats you but... ;) :D :)
@ skip..you can catch..Sargi,mnieges,awrat,hamiem il bahar,gringu etc ...please translate names of fish ;)
haha.... i get those in long line of imrejkba lol...... only been surfcasting once....... not a good result..
i keep dreaming of landing a nice spnotta - bloody magazines and marketing of the big firms hehe! they make it look so easy :S All i ever managed was some mnieges - most of them released cause they were way too small
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Kev , missna nghaluha ghal gimgha tal easter ha jkollna naqa festi mhux hazin :D
Iva ta najdu ahna bejn il hamis u il gimgha il kbira jew? ;) Namlu BBQ??? ;) ;D
immurru ta :D basta nieklu qabel 12.00am ghax ma jiswix laham ...........fil kas insajru spagetti marinara :D
dak on the way to pedusa namluh kid........ halli f'ideja......... :P
Camkev I wont be over until June/July but I will certainly be up for some beachcasting especially at night when all the bathers have gone to the pub, best time of the day EVERYWHERE for beachcasting, I will contact you nearer the time ;)
@ Blueskip..it's impossible to go beachcasting in summer..if there will not be people ,which usually stay till about 2.00 am there will be the bouys and ropes crossing the beaches.
2am! dont they do any drinking & sh*****g on holiday any more? >:( (that's what I used to go on holiday for) ::) & where are these ropes & bouys coming from? do they rig temporary moorings on the beaches in the summer?
Yes , Blueskip. I found that September - November are very good for beach casting and personally I ve very good catches. I'm still hoping to catch a nice seabass though after almost 8yrs practicing beach casting!
Are we still up for next thursday session ???
jien nigi nisidakom naqa lol
ilostja halli alik inti !!!! bhal haddiehor int !!!
ghal maghkom jien :) basta ma tiskrux :)
Sorry again for being ignorant and not understanding the replies in Maltese, but if there is any beach casting this Thursday, I would like to give it a go, were would the venue be and what time.
Captain Gus.
I think we will be going to ghadira,regarding time we still have to decide but some of us will be going early,guys if possible write in english ;) Just check out this topic and when we decide will send you a pm.
Hi Captain G, I should be there ( Ghadira ) just before sunset.... it's more romantic haha! Jokes apart i'd be very happy to set everything before it gets dark...
Thanks Guys, appreciate your help.
Gus ... feel free to txt 99453184 so you can join us :)
What time are we meeting guys?
I m gonna be there like an hour before sunset say around 6.30 - 7.00 pm.
cu there :)
c u there,
i hope to go get some fresh bait and will see you there...... est time 7pm
Try the embassy i told you ;)
qed tinqabad xi huta min fuq il bajjiet jew? ???
Issa illejla inkunu nafu ;)
Hi Robert and Fortuna
Sorry we had to leave early last night but, Marie and Jaye were not dressed for the windy conditions.
Nice to meet you Fortuna, it is always nice to put a face to a name.
The next time we shall be better prepared, but I still enjoyed the couple of hours we had there.
I did not catch anything but, I managed to drown a few worms, did you guys managed to catch anything.
Captain Gus
We caught a couple of beers after ;) Not even one bite,i arrived at 9.00pm and you had already left..but you didn't miss any fish dont worry.there was a lot of current yesterday!
its always on the low side at this time of the year kev in surfcasting.. unless you have those perfect conditions....
Having never done any surf casting in Malta, how far out do you boys cast and with what sort of leads?
sorry couldn t join. i was at work. hope 2 cu
hi evryone,,
went around the topic and saw lot of comments saying malta is not good for surfcasting ....that is not my opinion..
i m from catania and i lived in malta for 3 years already ,,, i always loved surfcastin and given that in catania we got a almost 25 km long beach ,,i always enjoyed fishing tat way ...
I ve been few times to golden bay and it went greaat ...(some mengus ,a big awrata of 700 grams , lot of strillja and few tracine ...
I think the problem is that surfcastng doesnt fit in the malta fishing mentality ( i can say so because had sm experience in sport angling in malta ) because u don t have lot of beaches ...
before starting fishing there re are lot of secrets and factors to consider to understand where the sandy bottom is getting mix more and fish there,, ecccetera eccetera ... u can t just go there and chose a random place like..i ll stay in this place because is gd for the bbq .....
Hi Carmelo ,
Appreciate your comments about the topic. I ve been practising surfcasting for the last 7/8yrs always going to Ghadira or Paradise which in my opinion these are very good spots. My catches consisted of serra, mengus , saragi , gringu and rghajja so yes if you stick to strong wind and rough sea conditions it does pay in the end.
Good conditions for surfcasting seem to be universal, over here if there is no surf & the water is clear then it only seems to work if you fish in the dark. When we have had a storm & the water is dirty & there is a good surf running, thats when conditions are best for beachcasting, & it pays to use a pennel rig & some big baits because you never know what is on patrol :o!