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Boat Fishing in Malta => Offshore & Coastal Boat Fishing => Topic started by: digger on November 10, 2007, 11:23:16 CET

Title: squid fishing by boat
Post by: digger on November 10, 2007, 11:23:16 CET
have been 4 times last week for squid  caught 2- o -5 -and 3last time out caught 2 in mid water while winding handline on cork.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: busumark on November 10, 2007, 20:50:38 CET
not catching a lot either 3-5 if you are lucky
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: shanook on November 11, 2007, 09:33:37 CET
same here didnt catch much and they seem to be small.... at least the once i caught... as a friend says "still in their nappy".
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: busumark on November 11, 2007, 19:10:53 CET
sometimes you catch a big one 3/4kg - 1kg
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: busumark on February 26, 2008, 21:43:16 CET
went squid fishing this morning with boat caught 6 in 10 minutes than nothing
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: ciappinu on February 26, 2008, 22:24:10 CET
Better than me. I went out yesterday evening, a couple of miles out from mellieha. No squid caught....zero.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: ForTuna on July 05, 2008, 10:31:17 CET
hey guys, do you where possibly i can catch some squid to use as live bait this time time of the year ? I was thinking somewhere between l-ahrax and comino, or else on Wied iz zurrieq side, use to be told that on that side they still catch squid in summer .... what do you think ?
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: placebo on July 05, 2008, 14:58:59 CET
yes my friend we catch squid during the night in west side on summer.

found out the best method here is to troll at a 1knt or less speed under the Hal Far (Ghar Hasan) cliffs you'll manage some for early bait.

We still catch during summer not in big quantities but they make the perfect bait
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: skip on July 05, 2008, 15:28:59 CET
Placebo, so do you slow troll a squid jig or use some kind of other lure?
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: ForTuna on July 05, 2008, 17:17:53 CET
that's really helpful placebo, looking forward to starting using my downrigger using live bait , lures didnt't prove to be so good especially if you re fish for denci or accola
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: skip on July 05, 2008, 18:27:24 CET
For those I think you need either bait strips or even better live bait on a slow troll. What weight are you using with your downrigger? Be sure to check out the Z-Wing 250/500 which has proved to be a lifesaver with downriggers in terms of getting your lures to the right depth without crazy big lead balls!
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: ForTuna on July 06, 2008, 03:43:31 CET
well it's a scotty model i think it's the 1085 version or somethng like that, the weight is quite heavy 5k or even more
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: placebo on July 07, 2008, 19:12:43 CET
hi skip, i use the pater noster with 3 squid jigs but troll slowly. Sometimes this method is very effective especially when there is no current in water.

I learnt this method from MXlokk fisherman and is very effective. Although....i still notice that i do not catch as much as they do!

looks like there is something i need to improve.....am working on it!
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: ForTuna on July 08, 2008, 18:35:27 CET
so if i understood correctly , you troll almost at the bottom right ?
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: placebo on July 08, 2008, 20:32:42 CET
yes tuna just letting the weight off the bottom...then at some time let the boat free again to settle speed at a very slow pace.

i can go around 1knt but i notice that MXlokk boats go even more slower and i think that's why they get better catches. As i told you i'm still catching up and learning the method.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: busumark on July 08, 2008, 20:36:10 CET
at st pauls bay they troll with two klamari lures without weight they use about 15mts line. i tried it a couple of times caught 5 in all like this. but where i go its not very good for klamari.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: kris on July 08, 2008, 22:45:28 CET
hi guys!

i have my boat at monoel island. where can i go for squid at this time of the year? also do i need light to attract the squid? and what's the best technique to fish for them?

tnx a lot guys!
kris

Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: fishfinder on July 09, 2008, 17:18:47 CET
the best to catch squid in your area is on that reef in front of dragonara but there are no squids this month. they should start from August and they will be caught also in daylight.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: kris on July 10, 2008, 12:35:44 CET
tnx fishfinder

bix niftemu...ir-reef quddiem id-dragonara hijja fej em dik il-baga kbiera sewda?
ax mandix fishinder allura ma nistax insiba bih.

u kif jaqbduwom? jamlu qiesu mitlaq u jnizluh mal-qieh jew inkella trolling jew spinning?

Tnx guys:)
kris

To make it clear... the ref infront of Dragoanara is where there is the big black buoy?
as I dont have a fishfinder so i cannot search for it with one.
And how do they catch them? with a drop downline to the bottom or is it by trolling or spinning?

Thanks Guys  (shanook)
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: Gazzetta on July 10, 2008, 13:12:40 CET
Quote from: placebo on July 07, 2008, 19:12:43 CET
hi skip, i use the pater noster with 3 squid jigs but troll slowly. Sometimes this method is very effective especially when there is no current in water.

I learnt this method from MXlokk fisherman and is very effective. Although....i still notice that i do not catch as much as they do!


looks like there is something i need to improve.....am working on it!

Here's Placebo's explanation Kris.

Chris
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: kris on July 10, 2008, 13:51:54 CET
ok tnx gazzetta.

so the paternoster should have a weight at the bottom like the normal paternoster rig? and should the paternoster touch the bottom or should it be a bit up from the floor?

kris
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: fishfinder on July 10, 2008, 17:52:52 CET
as Placebo, explained you have to use the pater noster method. it's always good to retreive at least 1m from the bottom or else you will leave all the lures in the bottom. Sometimes we caught them from 4m below surface. You have to try depending in which depts you are. there are people who trolls for squids others they just move with the current and there are others especially the Zrieraq who anchor's their boat so that they spotlight always in the same spot. Small fish are attracted to the light and Squid comes for hunting which will not go directly into the light but will wait for the prey in the circumference of the light until he's ready for his catch.

for the exact point you have to go out a little bit more but be surte that when Squid start you will see other people out there as well.

by the way if you're a beginner use only 2 lures ghax zgur tharbat kollox man:)
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: kris on July 11, 2008, 15:06:33 CET
tnx king nipprova mela ;)

thanks i will try then (shanook)
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: placebo on October 27, 2008, 23:36:33 CET
just came in with a nice catch of 4kgs today!

walaaaaaaaaa squid fishing
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: Gazzetta on October 28, 2008, 07:08:07 CET
Well done Nels !!  ;)

Chris  8)
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: EmicMalta on October 28, 2008, 07:09:35 CET
we done nearly 3kg yesturday
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: Gazzetta on October 28, 2008, 07:16:38 CET
Well done to Dwardu aswell, seems it was a good night, wonderful weather and also nice catches.  ;)

Chris  8)
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: EmicMalta on October 28, 2008, 07:25:23 CET
pls reply in english cos I used to write the whole reply in maltese and then realized that it was in inglish so had to write it again


Down there they all said that didn t caught squid. nfact even my buddy just few. I had a lure and it was always being caught on it. I think there are squid around but too much bait
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: Buddhagrass on October 29, 2008, 13:59:55 CET
at the moment baby squids are being caught. They need at least 2 - 3 weeks more so we'll be able to start catching them in decent sizes. I just love squid fishing. It is very relaxing for me. This winter I want to experience spearfishing them at night too. We'll see how it goes :-)
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: placebo on October 29, 2008, 18:43:22 CET
i caught some in the 1/2 kilo range
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: Buddhagrass on October 30, 2008, 10:31:41 CET
Quote from: placebo on October 29, 2008, 18:43:22 CET
i caught some in the 1/2 kilo range

1/2 kilo range at this time of yr is very good ...... the biggest one i ever caught was a bit over 1 kilo. I couldnt move the reel :-). This year I would like to experiment more on different lures and colours. I usually stick to Yamasitha (shrimp colours) ones but ...... there are many different ones around, so trying something else could result into a surprise.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: rammx on October 30, 2008, 10:34:50 CET
is there a particular line which is good for squids??? (spinning from from shore)
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: Buddhagrass on October 30, 2008, 12:57:49 CET
Quote from: rammx on October 30, 2008, 10:34:50 CET
is there a particular line which is good for squids??? (spinning from from shore)

Usually i'de love to go with strong 20mm in coffee like visibility and switch to around 18mm in crystal clear waters. Somewhere in between should work great as an all rounder.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: Freeman on October 30, 2008, 15:50:16 CET
Do the squiddys fight for their freedom or are they just dead weight when u catch them ?
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: Gazzetta on October 30, 2008, 15:52:31 CET
You get some resistance from big ones but nothing special hehe

Chris  8)
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: Aab131 on October 30, 2008, 16:17:09 CET
It's like if you just have a caught a plastic bag. When brought to surface there is an occasional splash.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: SPITEC on October 30, 2008, 17:06:01 CET
1- About the line from land it's not that important for the squid you should use a good line from 0.20 to 0.30.The line is important when you come for the cast.The thicker the line the shorter the cast.And that's important.
2-About the fight yes they do give a fight if you are well equiped because you have to use a very soft tip rod to feel every movement of the lure because if you are really into squid fishing you can say that sometimes the squid starts touching the lure with the 2 long tentacles and that's a crucial time.And when you are witha soft tip rod they do give a fight trying to go backwords not like a fish from side to side or from bottom to surface.

You see even guys that spin for them with rods that are ment for bottom fishing.Sorry for long reply but I love squid fishing.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: placebo on October 30, 2008, 22:21:54 CET
as for boat fishing i fish really cool. it's a 90mm handline with simple pater noster (size 35 - 40mm line) of 3 squid jigs (i go for very cheap stuff) and a good sized lead weight (depends on current). Even for pater noster terminal i'm not into fluorocarbon and other gimmicks. I prefer a good line that does not tangle and leave you fishing for long hours in heavy currents.
I'm not that much into grammage beacause i have learnt to judge weight only by vision! but i assume it's always that 100gm - 200gm.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: poor catch on November 07, 2008, 09:34:03 CET
Could somebody please explain effects of currents for kalamari fishing by boat, apart from the driftng aspect that is.

Which are the most productive current flow directions ? Say normally best from a NW'ly  or N 'l y direction etc. ?

Does sea swell have any bearing on numbers caught compared to similar conditions but without any swell ?
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: placebo on November 07, 2008, 13:01:24 CET
do not get into so much detail my friend as fishing is not so simple to decide which currents are the best.

In south i find it's good with NW breezes and the lowest deep current the best.
The breeze is important to enable a good drift of the boat.

About sea swell i really do not know. Normally when it is a big swell i do not go out since the sea bed is not clear and you get very poor catches.
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: shanook on November 07, 2008, 13:03:58 CET
apart from being uncomfortable on boat.....
Title: Re: squid fishing by boat
Post by: ramio on November 07, 2008, 18:26:20 CET
Being uncomfortable isn't a problem.........its what comes after!!