xi had qabat xi lampuki jew :o :o :o :o ::) ::) :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Iz-Zrieraq qed isemmu wahdiet.
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5 sijat troling hurds bank u qas lampuka wahda
jien hrict darptejn u xejn eee
ta dwejaq
Adu kmini fl opinjoni tijej al lampuki dis sena. Ghada ma kibtitx dik il hut rqiq il hut li tigi ikaccjata
hards bank inqabdet il lampuki nhar il hamis skond kif smajt ima qada irqiqa
L monti ta m xlokk illum kien hemm ftit ghal bejgh bis 6euro u kinet qisa vopi
Jien xejn. Hrigt Darbtejn u l-anqas messa ma hadt. Sena kiefra gejja!
hallihom jikbru, jekk jinqabdu zghar ma jkunx hawn Lampuki f Settembru u kulhadd joqod jgerger :)
Lampuki tal misthija......
Kollox sar jghaddi.......Missna nisthu...
naqbel 100%.
Bejn il bierah u llum qbatt 21. Il qies ivarja minn ftit akbar minn vopa sa l qies propja taghha ta dan iz zmien tas sena. In generali nghid li ghal mili li ghamilt, xorta qbatt ftit wisq. Mn Alla li l magni li ghandi ma tantx jahlu diesel !!!!!
mela vera kapaci int Felic! Prosit!
Issa ara jekk thobbomx il qattusa fel.... jew nghamluhom aljotta...
La fijim daqs vopa mhux ahjar titlaqom jew.
Fuq il lampuki ma hemm x xi daqs minimu skond il ligi? Ovjament li rajt al bejh go hanut kienu zar hafna, u nahseb xorta jridu daqs 2 gieghmat ohra biex jaqbdu jifformaw.
Le ma hawnx minimum sizes ghal-lampuki
Jien mort 3 darbiet ghal lampuki, ghadni ma missejtx wahda.
U nahseb biex induqhom irid nixtrihom.
Vera ghadhom zghar il-lampuki, li rajt ghand tal hut.
Nahseb d sena se tkun aghar mill l-ohra.
Bhall lum sena kont ghamilt sajda sabiha u kollha 3/4 ta kilo. nahseb mhux ghax ghadu kmieni li mhawnx,
Snin ma jixtibhux. Goodluck dilettanti kollha.
veru li bhalissa gieli nqabdet ilampuki sabiha,imma flopinjoni tieghi nhoss li ghadu kmieni.jien nhoss li il gost taghha minn settembru lhemm.bhalissa tohrog sforz idelizju sakemm ma tkunx lucky u tinzerta.dejjem kif nahsibha jien.
Qbadt 11 jien illum. 30 cm - 40cm imma naghti cans 3 weeks ghax naqra zghir li fqajtlu halqu biss zammejt... filfatt miz zghir il bqija tlaqtu
Proset bonell, kemm tas-sajda u iktar u iktar tal-c&r :)
Ghandi habib tijaj illum qabad 4 imdaqsin ukoll u 2 cervjol ukol nahseb ha jaqbdu jicaqalqu
Fejn irrid imurr biex inhallas hali nkun nista' imurr nistad mac cimi tad deletanti ?
Grazzi
Jekk tohrog min naha tisfel, mur Birzebbuga, fejn moll tas san gorg sajjieda.
Mur wara 7pm u staqsi ghall Filomenu (Nenu) _ Tezorier tal ghaqda ta sajjieda. Tidhol membru u thallas 5euro tac cimi.
Lampuki biss ghad mhemmx . bah
Quote from: Galea_5 on August 26, 2013, 08:26:37 CET
Fejn irrid imurr biex inhallas hali nkun nista' imurr nistad mac cimi tad deletanti ?
Grazzi
Ghalija dis sena morru mac cimi tar ramla ghax intefaw hafna (emm kwazi 45 wahda) u mux il barra - ftit gegwigija kif mitfughin imma nhoss li dejjem ikunu iktar sajjieda minn ta BBugia - infatti imorru iktar nies fuqhom.
Qabel ma tmur inzel sa wied il ghajn u staqsi ghal wiehed il 'Qambu' u hallas il €5 biex tkun tista tmur fuqom. Ekk imur ix xoghol ftakar l ispejjez u l hin li tiswihom dil bicca xoghol.
@Galea where do you launch from?
don't bother sending him to bugibba tony..... on saturday those who call themselves commercial fishermen were already netting the bugibba fads at 5.30am :( then these same xxxxxxxx threaten you when you go next to theirs.......
@ Shanook - Usually from Bbugia or wied il-ghajn.
and thanks for the others.
Quote from: benri on August 26, 2013, 19:27:52 CET
don't bother sending him to bugibba tony..... on saturday those who call themselves commercial fishermen were already netting the bugibba fads at 5.30am :( then these same xxxxxxxx threaten you when you go next to theirs.......
At this rate it sounds like it should be a free for all then and all FADs in the water can be fished by all! @The_Gaffer perhaps in your next meeting with the Fisheries board you can point out to them in the spirit of collaboration that their members do themselves no favours whatsoever during the Lampuki season.
It has been common practice to see commercial fishermen netting the various club FADs but then happily chasing, threatening and attempting to use violent force (Read carrying firearms) against those on the water.
Out of curiousity on what basis should FADs in International waters outside of the current 25nm fishing zone belong to anyone specific, regardless of who laid them?
Quote from: skip on August 27, 2013, 13:36:41 CET
Quote from: benri on August 26, 2013, 19:27:52 CET
don't bother sending him to bugibba tony..... on saturday those who call themselves commercial fishermen were already netting the bugibba fads at 5.30am :( then these same xxxxxxxx threaten you when you go next to theirs.......
At this rate it sounds like it should be a free for all then and all FADs in the water can be fished by all! @The_Gaffer perhaps in your next meeting with the Fisheries board you can point out to them in the spirit of collaboration that their members do themselves no favours whatsoever during the Lampuki season.
It has been common practice to see commercial fishermen netting the various club FADs but then happily chasing, threatening and attempting to use violent force (Read carrying firearms) against those on the water.
Out of curiousity on what basis should FADs in International waters outside of the current 25nm fishing zone belong to anyone specific, regardless of who laid them?
To be fair not all of them are violent and some let you fish on their fads as long as you do not damage them... but some commercial people are definately people not to mess with... and they are heavily armed
The 1st thing I'm asked when I challenge anyone in the board is if I have proof!
I would gladly champion the argument in the fisheries, but I cannot just put forward a suggestion that someone in the forum wrote in to state that commercial fishermen were actually rounding the recreational fisherman's FAD's with their nets. (no disrespect Benri, but I'm sure you understand)
The commercials in the board are well represented, indeed, it is only me and Dr.Joe who actually represent the recreationals.
In any case, the recreationals are not helping their case either by being ever present on the commercial FAD's. So it's not just a one way game Skip.
Quote from: Granitu on August 27, 2013, 14:25:29 CET
Quote from: skip on August 27, 2013, 13:36:41 CET
Quote from: benri on August 26, 2013, 19:27:52 CET
don't bother sending him to bugibba tony..... on saturday those who call themselves commercial fishermen were already netting the bugibba fads at 5.30am :( then these same xxxxxxxx threaten you when you go next to theirs.......
At this rate it sounds like it should be a free for all then and all FADs in the water can be fished by all! @The_Gaffer perhaps in your next meeting with the Fisheries board you can point out to them in the spirit of collaboration that their members do themselves no favours whatsoever during the Lampuki season.
It has been common practice to see commercial fishermen netting the various club FADs but then happily chasing, threatening and attempting to use violent force (Read carrying firearms) against those on the water.
Out of curiousity on what basis should FADs in International waters outside of the current 25nm fishing zone belong to anyone specific, regardless of who laid them?
To be fair not all of them are violent and some let you fish on their fads as long as you do not damage them... but some commercial people are definately people not to mess with... and they are heavily armed
Granitu, I would be very very careful what you say here. This is a public forum, and you need to qualify what you mean by heavily armed! Are you stating that they have RPG's, snipper rifles, automatic weapons?...what do you mean by heavily armed?
You are right to a certain extent Joe but the least I want to do when going out for a day fishing with the kids is chase commercial fishermen to get a picture of them netting the recreational FADS with all it's repercussions.
Fishing for tuna is illegal so it was being monitored by Fisheries & ALE and not by us! Commercials rounding recreational fishermen's Fads is also illegal and does not need to be monitored by us either! That is why these departments are paid from tax payers money.... to do their duty! It will not take much of their precious time to go by the few established FAD lines for recreationals early morning and check for these bullies carrying out illegal activity!
When I was PTF registered I used to lay my fads (official ones). On two occasions I caught full time fisherman using nets on my fads. When I confronted them all I got was, Nothing belongs to anyone out here ...and... Better shut up or else next time you won't find any of your fads afloat.
These were big boats, so all you can do is turn round and go home, no use getting involved in a fight over a lampuka.
This has always been their attitude, what's theirs is theirs and what's of others belongs to them as well.
Joe, I saw a sten gun on a boat, I actually saw it being fired on a 45 gallon tank. Devastating effect.
Quote from: The_Gaffer on August 27, 2013, 14:33:17 CET
Quote from: Granitu on August 27, 2013, 14:25:29 CET
Quote from: skip on August 27, 2013, 13:36:41 CET
Quote from: benri on August 26, 2013, 19:27:52 CET
don't bother sending him to bugibba tony..... on saturday those who call themselves commercial fishermen were already netting the bugibba fads at 5.30am :( then these same xxxxxxxx threaten you when you go next to theirs.......
At this rate it sounds like it should be a free for all then and all FADs in the water can be fished by all! @The_Gaffer perhaps in your next meeting with the Fisheries board you can point out to them in the spirit of collaboration that their members do themselves no favours whatsoever during the Lampuki season.
It has been common practice to see commercial fishermen netting the various club FADs but then happily chasing, threatening and attempting to use violent force (Read carrying firearms) against those on the water.
Out of curiousity on what basis should FADs in International waters outside of the current 25nm fishing zone belong to anyone specific, regardless of who laid them?
To be fair not all of them are violent and some let you fish on their fads as long as you do not damage them... but some commercial people are definately people not to mess with... and they are heavily armed
Granitu, I would be very very careful what you say here. This is a public forum, and you need to qualify what you mean by heavily armed! Are you stating that they have RPG's, snipper rifles, automatic weapons?...what do you mean by heavily armed?
Gaffer i know of boats who keep registered firearms on board.. I would think an ak 47 is heavy armor....
Now the authorities also need confirmation or proof before they act and do their job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only In Malta
baghira it was always like this. even if they have photos they will tell you if you are ready to testify in court
Quote from: baghira on August 28, 2013, 09:07:56 CET
Now the authorities also need confirmation or proof before they act and do their job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only In Malta
Baghira registered firearms are legal to keep - This is a common legal misconseption. You may keep a firearm at home as long as it is registered with the police and it is not used. - its use, is illegal.
If you carry a huge knife with you in your car a random police check will ask you why - but if it is registered and within the perimeter of law it would not be confiscated - however if you use it to kill or threathen, police will charge you with its possession and illicit use - possession becomes a crime when you use it illicitly.
At sea it gets even more complicated, because if there is a use of a firearm 50 nautic miles off malta, if the area does not form part of the Malta territory it could be waters which are not subject to Maltese jurisdiction - 'no mans land'
Correct me if I am wrong
Quote from: baghira on August 28, 2013, 09:07:56 CET
Now the authorities also need confirmation or proof before they act and do their job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only In Malta
To anwser another question - No I don't think the authorities need proof to act, and I never said so myself, what I did say is that in the fisheries board, I would be challenged to produce proof of what I am stating i.e. that commerial fishing boats are rounding up lampuki on recreational FADs.
QuoteBaghira registered firearms are legal to keep - This is a common legal misconseption. You may keep a firearm at home as long as it is registered with the police and it is not used. - its use, is illegal.
If you carry a huge knife with you in your car a random police check will ask you why - but if it is registered and within the perimeter of law it would not be confiscated - however if you use it to kill or threathen, police will charge you with its possession and illicit use - possession becomes a crime when you use it illicitly.
At sea it gets even more complicated, because if there is a use of a firearm 50 nautic miles off malta, if the area does not form part of the Malta territory it could be waters which are not subject to Maltese jurisdiction - 'no mans land'
Correct me if I am wrong
Not really, if you fire a weapon whilst on a Maltese registered ship, whether you are in Maltese territorial waters or on an inter-planetary journey to Mars, you are still on Maltese territory. That is why registereed boats fly the national ensign of the country they are registered with.
Besides, I think we are really over complicating matters here. The argument still stands, until such time that recreational fishermen abuse commercial FADs, then expect the same treatment, or vice versa. the question is, who will stop 1st, and who will continue to hold fast the truce!
Quote from: The_Gaffer on August 28, 2013, 13:22:37 CET
Quote from: Granitu on August 28, 2013, 11:47:48 CET
Quote from: baghira on August 28, 2013, 09:07:56 CET
Now the authorities also need confirmation or proof before they act and do their job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only In Malta
Not really, if you fire a weapon whilst on a Maltese registered ship, whether you are in Maltese territorial waters or on an inter-planetary journey to Mars, you are still on Maltese territory. That is why registereed boats fly the national ensign of the country they are registered with.
To anwser another question - No I don't think the authorities need proof to act, and I never said so myself, what I did say is that in the fisheries board, I would be challenged to produce proof of what I am stating i.e. that commerial fishing boats are rounding up lampuki on recreational FADs.
Baghira registered firearms are legal to keep - This is a common legal misconseption. You may keep a firearm at home as long as it is registered with the police and it is not used. - its use, is illegal.
If you carry a huge knife with you in your car a random police check will ask you why - but if it is registered and within the perimeter of law it would not be confiscated - however if you use it to kill or threathen, police will charge you with its possession and illicit use - possession becomes a crime when you use it illicitly.
At sea it gets even more complicated, because if there is a use of a firearm 50 nautic miles off malta, if the area does not form part of the Malta territory it could be waters which are not subject to Maltese jurisdiction - 'no mans land'
Correct me if I am wrong
Thanks gaffer for your reply - appreciated
if a crime is committed outside territorial waters the state of the flag ship has jurisdiction on that boat.
Lahwa
I'll lampuki nistaw nejdulhom bye bye. Min xi snin ilu sajjieda taljani/sqallin bdew jitfaw Ic cimi/kannizati tahhhom u lampuka qed tibqa lbarra. Min hu delettant tar rixa, Jew trid tohrog I'll barra hafna Jew trejjex gol portijiet.
tankard it tlita kont sqalija u min monti ta hut ma jispica qat wihed biss kin hemm li kelu xi tuzana lampuki u kinu 14e il-kilo. qabel ekk kont nahseb imma isa ed jerga idur il hsieb.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstecf.jrc.ec.europa.eu%2Fdocuments%2F43805%2F595605%2FMalta%2C%2BManagement%2Bplan%2Bfor%2BLampuki%2B-%2Bdolphinfish%2BFAD%2Bfisheries_08052013.pdf&ei=p_0iUoGwLair7Abqr4C4Cg&usg=AFQjCNF2nv8dscq28LWc8VwkT0DG7qb21Q&sig2=QIiA9_7_1DJvfpTv_9SRLQ&bvm=bv.51495398,d.ZGU
I came by this document and it clearly shows why Lampuki has been declining in the past years - see graph on page 20.
Page 2 section 3.3.
'A Recreational Fisheries Board to discuss possible management measures including the possibility of
restricting fishing effort has been set up. The Recreational Fisheries Board will provide a report with
possible management measures and this, together with a consultation exercise with stakeholders,
will be used as a basis to draft a Legal Notice on recreational fishing establishing minimum
thresholds in terms of effort, gear selectivity and licensing to fish.'
The Possibility of restricting fishing effort.
Quote from: busumark on August 28, 2013, 10:02:26 CET
baghira it was always like this. even if they have photos they will tell you if you are ready to testify in court
Agree 100% Mark. It has been the same when reporting pariti in St Paul's Bay. They want you to testify in court. As if!!!!!!!