would like to buy kaptan fregatina fibre or sea brave without motor any offers?
propja jien rridha biex nistad al klamari naf li luzzu tal injam hu l ahjar ax lanqas li tiddrifftja imma naqta qalbi biex noqod nduru tahseb li b dawn d dghajjes li semmejt xorta nkun nistad sew alihom?
Quote from: msell on November 13, 2015, 08:47:01 CET
propja jien rridha biex nistad al klamari naf li luzzu tal injam hu l ahjar ax lanqas li tiddrifftja imma naqta qalbi biex noqod nduru tahseb li b dawn d dghajjes li semmejt xorta nkun nistad sew alihom?
Mur ghal kaptan sijeb jew ta peter. Kajjik tajjeb imma mixi m ghandux!
tx granitu andi nitla sand pawlu tar rabat nsiblu xi haga tejd?jien ghawdxi
u dinghy kif inhu al klamari hawn xi had li juzah hawn al klamari jew baxx izzejjed mal bahar
apparti li baxx, nahseb li jimxi mhux hazin fil kurrent. Ikollok tankra nahseb. Imma hey, tara it-taljani bid-dingy johorgu jistadu ukoll ghal klamari! iggifieri hija biss oppinjoni ta kif wiehed jarma ghas-sajd
skond kemm il toqba ghandek aptit tghamillu bil krapal..... :-)
Mhux tal parir ghal dinghi ghas sajd
hekk ukoll ghedt baghira ma narahx haga jien bir rispett kollu imma ghedt ha nsaqsi
Jien ghax immur nghoddos.... u jghogobni ghal kollox.... imma ma nistadx kiff irrid bih..... Kieku Ghandi dghajsa naqbad aktar hut zgur..... :-)
Ovjamentt fil bahar ahjar min dghajsa....
Dinghy zgur li ghola min kaptan mill-ilma
tx tar replies hbieb issa ddecidejt ha nixtri seabrave b mutur evinrude e tech 40hp gdid u iehor auxiliary 6hp jew 8hp.Il problema li ghandi hu li jien nixtieq nrejjex al accjola u ghedt kieku nitfi l mutur l kbir u nsuq biz zejr biex nrejjex tahsbu li bis 6hp nkun miexi sew biex nrejjex jew nbati bih?
u jekk nrejjex bil 40hp ghax nsuq bil mod naghmel xi hsara jew jahli hafna?Nixtieq nisma l opinjonijiet taghkom tx forward
6hp bizzejed zgur bix trejjex ghal accola fux 14pied. bil 40 nahseb tmexxi wisq ghanke idle
Kif qallek redhead 40hp huwa ftit kbir biex trejjex ghall-accjola. Jien sibt ftit diffikulta das-sajf bil-50HP. Min-naha l-ohra jien ETEC ghandi wkoll u gieli ghamilt 6 sighat inrejjex bejn 2 / 2.5 knots u qatt m'ghamilt hsara. Bil-haj ovvja li trid issuq b'inqas. Importanti li meta tkun diehel il-gewwa issuq wahda speed gholi ghal ftit hin biex tnehhi l-carbon li jakkumula. Din is-sena jien xtrajt Carbon Guard minghand Ripard li hallattu mal-petrol biex inaqqas il-depozitu tal-carbon peress li naghmel hafna hin insuq bil-mod.
Jigifieri anka bl 6 hp irrid nsuq wahda sew l gew jew int qed tghid ax bil mutur l kbir fhimt sew? U tx both of you
Quote from: msell on December 02, 2015, 11:59:37 CET
Jigifieri anka bl 6 hp irrid nsuq wahda sew l gew jew int qed tghid ax bil mutur l kbir fhimt sew? U tx both of you
Le le bil-40HP jekk tkun qieghed tuzah ghal hin twil slow trolling :)
Quote from: malvizzu on December 02, 2015, 17:46:00 CET
Quote from: msell on December 02, 2015, 11:59:37 CET
Jigifieri anka bl 6 hp irrid nsuq wahda sew l gew jew int qed tghid ax bil mutur l kbir fhimt sew? U tx both of you
Le le bil-40HP jekk tkun qieghed tuzah ghal hin twil slow trolling :)
Habib,
Jin kiku mmur ghal mutur auxilary ftit ikbar tipo 9.9hp/15hp - u rranga xi skrun taghmillu.
Jekk ssaqsini ghar-raguni semplici - l head ta 6hp tinstadd iktar facilment minn 9.9hp.
Zomm f mohhok li jk ha tarmah ghal dead slow trolling ha jkollok inqas speed bhala aux pero mhux ha jkolla effett kbir ghalik ghax difficli tipplanja b 9.9
Nissugerilek li taghmlu fiss ukoll l Auxilary. Fuq il bahar difficli twahhal muturi.
naf min anke jrejjex b 40hp ghal haj - tista tuza parachute ukoll bix tnaqqas l speed.
Msell hu l-parir ta' Granitu wkoll. Nafu personali u intiz ferm fuq id-delizzju taghna, sew fuq dghajjes u ingenji u kemm fuq sajd, u pariri minghandu tista' toqghod fuqhom mija fil-mija.
Granitu, l-unika haga li tinkwetani fuq 9.9HP/15HP bhala auxiliary hija jekk hux tqil wisq ghal fuq dghajsa 14-il pied Seabrave! Ma nistax nitkellem fuq Seabrave ghax qatt ma tlajt fuq wahda u ghalhekk ma nafx kif iggib ruhha. Li naf zgur huwa li kemm ilni li zid il-Johnson 8HP li jizen 27kg fuq id-dghajsa tieghi, Petecraft 14, hadt daqsxejn ta' darsa ghax qeghda tbati aktar biex tipplenja u meta jkolli lil xi hadd mieghi giet aktar problema. Fil-fatt kont qed nikkunsidra nwahhal permatrims mal-50HP!
tx both of you
Quote from: malvizzu on December 04, 2015, 12:17:22 CET
Granitu, l-unika haga li tinkwetani fuq 9.9HP/15HP bhala auxiliary hija jekk hux tqil wisq ghal fuq dghajsa 14-il pied Seabrave! Ma nistax nitkellem fuq Seabrave ghax qatt ma tlajt fuq wahda u ghalhekk ma nafx kif iggib ruhha. Li naf zgur huwa li kemm ilni li zid il-Johnson 8HP li jizen 27kg fuq id-dghajsa tieghi, Petecraft 14, hadt daqsxejn ta' darsa ghax qeghda tbati aktar biex tipplenja u meta jkolli lil xi hadd mieghi giet aktar problema. Fil-fatt kont qed nikkunsidra nwahhal permatrims mal-50HP!
Malvizz, veru li jkollok iktar toqol pero nippreferi nbati bix nipplajna milli nsewwi head ta mutur mis sadd.
Eminni xbajt nara minnhom misdudin dawn 6hp u personalmemt mhumiex auxiliary reliable ghalija.
Re plaining - hull ta 14ft dejjem ha tbati tipplajna fuq certu piz u l kaptan/sea brave, ghalkemm dghajjes tajbin immens, iridu iktar power minn dghajjes ohra bix jipplajnaw.
Options li nikkunsidra kiku huma:
1) Trim tabs dejjem jghinu - kiku jien immur ghal bennet trim tabs ghax naf li sabuwom ta kwalita
2) kontra piz. Option ohra hi li tikkumpensa ghal certu piz fiss fuq id dghajsa b comb f certu partijiet tad dghajsa. Naf min ghamel hekk u mar tajjeb hafna biex jipplajna pero naqqas certu top speed.
Quote from: Granitu on December 04, 2015, 14:42:22 CET
Quote from: malvizzu on December 04, 2015, 12:17:22 CET
Granitu, l-unika haga li tinkwetani fuq 9.9HP/15HP bhala auxiliary hija jekk hux tqil wisq ghal fuq dghajsa 14-il pied Seabrave! Ma nistax nitkellem fuq Seabrave ghax qatt ma tlajt fuq wahda u ghalhekk ma nafx kif iggib ruhha. Li naf zgur huwa li kemm ilni li zid il-Johnson 8HP li jizen 27kg fuq id-dghajsa tieghi, Petecraft 14, hadt daqsxejn ta' darsa ghax qeghda tbati aktar biex tipplenja u meta jkolli lil xi hadd mieghi giet aktar problema. Fil-fatt kont qed nikkunsidra nwahhal permatrims mal-50HP!
Malvizz, veru li jkollok iktar toqol pero nippreferi nbati bix nipplajna milli nsewwi head ta mutur mis sadd.
Eminni xbajt nara minnhom misdudin dawn 6hp u personalmemt mhumiex auxiliary reliable ghalija.
Re plaining - hull ta 14ft dejjem ha tbati tipplajna fuq certu piz u l kaptan/sea brave, ghalkemm dghajjes tajbin immens, iridu iktar power minn dghajjes ohra bix jipplajnaw.
Options li nikkunsidra kiku huma:
1) Trim tabs dejjem jghinu - kiku jien immur ghal bennet trim tabs ghax naf li sabuwom ta kwalita
2) kontra piz. Option ohra hi li tikkumpensa ghal certu piz fiss fuq id dghajsa b comb f certu partijiet tad dghajsa. Naf min ghamel hekk u mar tajjeb hafna biex jipplajna pero naqqas certu top speed.
U nahseb aktar hela ta' petrol ukoll peress li l-mutur se jkollu aktar load hekk?! Nahseb kieku nippreferi mmur ghal trim tabs.
Quote from: malvizzu on December 04, 2015, 15:02:08 CET
Quote from: Granitu on December 04, 2015, 14:42:22 CET
Quote from: malvizzu on December 04, 2015, 12:17:22 CET
Granitu, l-unika haga li tinkwetani fuq 9.9HP/15HP bhala auxiliary hija jekk hux tqil wisq ghal fuq dghajsa 14-il pied Seabrave! Ma nistax nitkellem fuq Seabrave ghax qatt ma tlajt fuq wahda u ghalhekk ma nafx kif iggib ruhha. Li naf zgur huwa li kemm ilni li zid il-Johnson 8HP li jizen 27kg fuq id-dghajsa tieghi, Petecraft 14, hadt daqsxejn ta' darsa ghax qeghda tbati aktar biex tipplenja u meta jkolli lil xi hadd mieghi giet aktar problema. Fil-fatt kont qed nikkunsidra nwahhal permatrims mal-50HP!
Malvizz, veru li jkollok iktar toqol pero nippreferi nbati bix nipplajna milli nsewwi head ta mutur mis sadd.
Eminni xbajt nara minnhom misdudin dawn 6hp u personalmemt mhumiex auxiliary reliable ghalija.
Re plaining - hull ta 14ft dejjem ha tbati tipplajna fuq certu piz u l kaptan/sea brave, ghalkemm dghajjes tajbin immens, iridu iktar power minn dghajjes ohra bix jipplajnaw.
Options li nikkunsidra kiku huma:
1) Trim tabs dejjem jghinu - kiku jien immur ghal bennet trim tabs ghax naf li sabuwom ta kwalita
2) kontra piz. Option ohra hi li tikkumpensa ghal certu piz fiss fuq id dghajsa b comb f certu partijiet tad dghajsa. Naf min ghamel hekk u mar tajjeb hafna biex jipplajna pero naqqas certu top speed.
U nahseb aktar hela ta' petrol ukoll peress li l-mutur se jkollu aktar load hekk?! Nahseb kieku nippreferi mmur ghal trim tabs.
Mux tant malvizz. L economic crusing speed determinat mir revs tal mutur vs speed u distanza koperta. (i.e. Motor Revs determine the amount of fuel consumed - speed vs distance then determines the most efficient cruising speed)
Dan jista jinbidel skond t temp u anke t tip ta dghajsa pero ma jvarjax hafna.
Pero trim tabs huma ahjar, veru
Jien xtrajt tohatsu 40hp 4 stroke din is sena u propju ghamiltu fuq seabrave 14. Ghat trolling tajjeb hafna wkoll ghax ghandu function biex twaqqalu revs biex propju tistad bil haj.
Ghandi wkoll suzuki 6hp fuqha imma min meta xtrajt il mutur qas ghadni nuzah ghax hafna aktar efficjenti u ekonomiku immens.
Tohatsu 2 jew 4 stroke xtrajtu? U tipplenja bih u bl spare ?
U kemp kien giek?
Il-40HP 4 stroke kif hemm miktub fl-ewwel 5 kelmiet ;D Il-probabbilta li s-Suzuki 6HP, jekk huwa mixtri ricenti, huwa 4 stroke ukoll!
Andek ragun malvizzu ;D
lol tajba Malvizzun. Ijja it tohatsu 4 stroke u gieni 4800 euro. Id dajsa letteralment iqaccata ghax vera b sahhtu bhala mutur u kif ghatlek ma jahli xejn.
Tajjeb Chris1982, tant ahjar ghax tista' tgawdi aktar hin fuq il-bahar ;) Kurzita zghira, ghandek idea kemm tizen is-Seabrave 14? Il-Petecraft 14 tieghi tizen 300kg u bl-auxilary fuq wara batejt ftit dan is-sajf. Jista' jkun illi l-hull li ghandek fuq tieghek huwa ahjar minn tieghi u ghalhekk tbati anqas. Forsi xi hadd fuq il-Forum jista' jaghti indikazzjoni ahjar!
Tx chris nahseb tohatsu 40hp ha nispicca ngib u tohatsu 6hp jew 8hp spare.skuzawni hafna mistoqsijiet imma tkun mgerfex al ewwel qabel kont ha ngib etech evinrude 40 imma issa ikter qed nahseb al tohatsu , min tahsbu li l ahjar bhala after sales u service?
Jien mhux se nidhol dettall fuq l-agenti.... pero jien bejn agent u iehor, l-istess part ezatt, u originali it tnejn kien hemm 100 euro differenza f'total ta 250 euro.
Staqsi fuq min hu il mechanic, u mur ara il garax, u tkellem fuq kemm jiswa service etc.
Jien li nista nghidlek, jekk tkun ser tixtri tohatsu jaf niddubbalek 10% discount voucher.
https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1069356_596616500383027_186337272_n.jpg?oh=cb3d72758f2eb3a1384447a061909de7&oe=5719817E
Fuq tohatsu ma nafx najdelek fuq after sales ghax qatt ma kelli. Sa fejn naf jien muturi tajbin. Etec min ghand Ripard. Servizz eccelenti, muturi eccelenti u prezzijiet fuq spare parts tajbin hafna....daqs jew aqwa min barra....jekk tigi bzonn spare parts....
Jien ghandi etec 225 2011 u sissa bomba.
Kif jghidu mitt bniedem mitt fehma..... Qatt mhu ser issib 100% tan nies jaqblu fuq prodott.....
Tx everyone for your replies napprezza hawn forum tajjeb hafna
Fuq l etec ma naf xejn dwar after sale service u rigward l agent, pero rigward it tohatsu nista nghid li Pawlu tar rabat ghandu servizz tal-genn u ssibu kull meta tigi bzonn. Personalment vera kuntent bis servizz tieghu u ma jiddispjacini xejn li xtrajt minghandu.
Ccekkjajt ma tal Honda u l sites prezzijiet bhat tohatsu x tahrs u fuqhhom?@ Chris kien kellimt l Shaun tat tohatsu u Vera jidher li hu bniedem ok hafna x altars tohatsu ha ndahhal imma qed niccekkja tal ahhar
Ma nafx x nghidlek ta fuq il-honda. Hawn min jghid li l honda tajbin imma naqra tqal. Li u zgur hu li s issa l ehfef 40hp huwa tohatsu u jekk miniex sejjer zball ehfef mil etec 40 b xi 2 kg.
Madonna kid jien mifxul Honda Barra zgur ax qalli jammlu Xaba Hsara Issa ccekkjajt am Shaun u qalli Yamaha 40hp 4 stroke jiswa 5000 euro u qalli li sentejn garanzija Imbad qalli li tohatsu Iktar avanzat bhala teknologija mill Yamaha u tohatsu hames snin
Garanzija araveru mgerfex man
Quote from: baghira on December 10, 2015, 13:16:20 CET
Jien mhux se nidhol dettall fuq l-agenti.... pero jien bejn agent u iehor, l-istess part ezatt, u originali it tnejn kien hemm 100 euro differenza f'total ta 250 euro.
Staqsi fuq min hu il mechanic, u mur ara il garax, u tkellem fuq kemm jiswa service etc.
Jien li nista nghidlek, jekk tkun ser tixtri tohatsu jaf niddubbalek 10% discount voucher.
Baghira ma nafx x'part hi li qed issemmi izda ma' nahsibx li part ta' Tohatsu tista' twahhalha fuq Evinrude ETEC u vici versa!!! Forsi sejjer zbaljat, ma nafx! Jekk hija part ta' xi 6HP, iva hemmhekk taqbel ghax l-Evinrude 6HP 4-stroke huwa Tohatsu minn gewwa.
Quote from: msell on December 12, 2015, 11:55:50 CET
Madonna kid jien mifxul Honda Barra zgur ax qalli jammlu Xaba Hsara Issa ccekkjajt am Shaun u qalli Yamaha 40hp 4 stroke jiswa 5000 euro u qalli li sentejn garanzija Imbad qalli li tohatsu Iktar avanzat bhala teknologija mill Yamaha u tohatsu hames snin
Garanzija araveru mgerfex man
Msell jien ghaddejt mill-istess trawma tieghek ftit tas-snin ilu meta gejt biex nixtri u jekk tfittex il-posts tieghi tinduna x'jigifieri ;D
Kif qal tajjeb Baghira kulhadd ghandu l-opinjoni tieghu u kulhadd tieghu jarah tajjeb. Illum il-gurnata nahseb li l-muturi kollha bejn wiehed u iehor fl-istess ilma qeghdin. It-toqol tal-mutur nahseb li huwa fattur importanti fuq dghajsa zghira u ghalhekk trid izzomm dan il-punt f'mohhok ukoll. Minn Ripard ma ngergirx. Affarijiet ta' service dejjem sibt dak il-hin mill-hanut. Meta kelli bzonn part partikulari, fi zmien gimaghtejn jidhirli li kienet waslitli.
Shaun, is-salesman tat-Tohatsu li jahdem ma' Pawlu tar-Rabat huwa mill-ahjar hafna. Kellimtu ftit drabi u jidher li huwa intiz fuq xoghlu. Garanzija ta' 5 snin ma nahsibx li hija cucata u nahseb tirrifletti fuq il-kwalita tal-mutur.
Decizjoni iebsa meta tigi biex tixtri ghax finalment flus tajjeb tkun qed thallas u mintix se ssibhom fit-triq. L-importanti li meta finalment tkun se tixtri tkun deciz fuq li se taghmel u li jkun fil-limitu tal-finanzi tieghek. Awguri dejjem :)
Mela mhux wahdi malvizzu ara vera titgerfex eh!Le qtajta ta issa al tohatsu ha mmur imbad jaghmel alla dan jekk tkun sfortunat taghzel x taghzel hazin johroglok!tx tal ghajnuna kbira li tajtuni
Hekk huwa...
Malvizz jien meta semmejt bejn agent u iehor, la semmejt, tohatsu u lanqas e tec, semmejt bejn agent u iehor, huma min huma..... biss wiehed ta min jindaga ftit.
Ha nghidlek, minn shaun mhux ser ikollok indiema.... Iccempillu u jwiegbek, u mhux ser jaqa ghac cajt.
Jien hekk irragunajt Msell ukoll. Hadt decizjoni wara li kkunsidrajt u arbilt l-ghajnuna li sibt fuq dan il-Forum, ricerka fuq l-internet u ovvjament buti ;D imbaghad li ghandu jigri jigri ghax m'ghandniex kontroll fuqu.
@Baghira - ghandek ragun siehbi fhimtek ;) peress li konna qed niddiskutu fuq Tohatsu u Evinrude hsibt li kont qed tghid ghall-part ta' dawn it-tnejn