Malta Fishing Forum

Shore Fishing => General Questions => Ledgering => Topic started by: Freeman on June 09, 2008, 09:20:10 CET

Title: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Freeman on June 09, 2008, 09:20:10 CET
Hi all, was wondering if there was anyone who can give me any tips regarding sawrell fishing!

Went a couple of times so far where ppl told me it was supposed to be full of them and I still have to see one. So I'm using a standard running leadger with .18 mono, hniex tal korea as bait (illixkat shieh). Problem I have is that i have no clue about this fish, not sure if it's a bottom or surface dweller to start off, also no clue if hniex is the right way to go! Any tips would be appreciated.

Regards Cliff
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on June 09, 2008, 09:45:37 CET
fejn ppruvajt ghalija? nahseb fejn l pixkerija tajjeb.... jien kont mmur ghalija b hand pole u bit tunnag mmelahl (lahmu ahmar)... meta jarmu l irjus tat tonn tibda s sajda  normalment ghalija ghax tidhol max xatt....

dejjem jghidlu li jkun hemm ifem, imma da l ahhar naqset hafna mal kosta

hawn min kien jistadila pater noster hemm, anke bil float speci ta bolognese..... jekk tmur s hemm tara hafna tibda issa jistadulha. malli jarmu l rjus tat tonn tidhol taraha max xatt sahansitra gieli f zewg metri ilma

anke lacci hajja kienu jistadula biha ukoll.

bhala huta naraha kemmxejn mezzana, mix huta tal wicc ghalija bhal lampuka, ezempju imma mix huta li ha zzom mal qiegh sakemm ma jkunx hemm xi erba rjus tat tonn. t tonn tiggenen ghalih hi
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: EmicMalta on June 09, 2008, 09:48:29 CET
sawrell ta limperjal jew mil  iehor?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on June 09, 2008, 09:55:39 CET
mperjal dan imma mill iehor jaqbdu ukoll, ma nafx kif trid taqbdu imbad.... gieli qbadtu bil farka l kommuni mill msida
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: EmicMalta on June 09, 2008, 10:29:26 CET
spinning ma jinqabadx???

nara hafna pero dejjem jikkacja jkun.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on June 09, 2008, 10:35:11 CET
nimmagina li tsita imma normalment rejxu bil haj alih imma possibli nahseb
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: EmicMalta on June 09, 2008, 10:45:20 CET
that fish is always chasing small fish even with a cawla you can catch it i think.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 09, 2008, 11:45:54 CET
Li kont minnek man niprovala bi spinner zghir ghaliex meta jkolla l guh tiggennen ghalih. Freeman tista ukoll tistada b qasba tal idejn u bil gambli ghaliex il gambli tmiss hafna fuqhom hafna ukoll.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: busumark on June 09, 2008, 19:48:47 CET
ras hanzir used to be a lot of sawrell. the best bait is live sardin but even tumbrell and shrimps are good. best time was between october and december. i used to catch most with a 3mtr hand rod but even with an 8mtr hand rod you catch also
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 09, 2008, 20:49:56 CET
Hi cliff,
Ive caught them before on tumrell as busumark said from ras hanzir in the winter time 2 years ago (december) & also did a good session once for them on top water lures in early march 3 years ago,but this was one of those 'freak' occurance type of things cos there were tons of them! tons of fisherman there the next day too!!!
But if you intend to use bait i think tumbrell or tunagg is the best way to go in my opinion or a live sardin or lacca.
Tight Lines mate
martin
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: EmicMalta on June 09, 2008, 23:08:06 CET
What??????????? you go fishing at ras hanzir????????????

And the fish????
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 09, 2008, 23:22:04 CET
I usually put them back or give them to someone there!!
The only diesel i use is in my car....when there i cleaned one and it was literally reeking of diesel fuel... :P
which is why i dont go there very often! in fact i usually only go with a guy i work with for the company more than anything else!
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Freeman on June 10, 2008, 00:33:39 CET
Yeah I am fishing from ras hanzir aswell, basically the thing is I'm a bit sick of spinning from there as the fish u catch are good only for the stray cats in the area, so I tought i would give it a try for sawrell tal imperjal since apparently there's loads of them there, mind u I still have to see 1. Fishing with a hand rod is not an option for me as I hate it, so I tryed some bottom fishing as at least I can put them back at sea after u land them, where as spinning ull end up gaffing the fish and basically kill them for nothing.

I had quite a nice morning actually with 2 rods both with running ledger, cought some pretty huge mutilated sparli and loads of small pagell but no sign of the sawrell. maybe it's becouse i'm fishing in the bottom but i'm not sure, that's y I asked for info about them so I can maybe change from running ledger to using a bombarda or a running float, tough running float I'm not sure if it's an option due to the gizillion lacci covering the surface which i guess will rape my bait in a second.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 10, 2008, 03:03:27 CET
Thats a problem then Cliff! If there are that many lacci around then it'll be pretty difficult to get the sawrell to take a dead bait! And like you said if you try fishing a running float with dead bait the lacci etc are just gonna gobble up your bait before your running float has even had a chance to set!

I suppose you could always try catching a few lacci and try live baiting on the surface or even mid water with a big running float rig,although you'll surely have more sucess on the surface.
Myabe with a slow retrieved bombarda just below the surface.

In fact they are not exactly surface dwellers but thats where they attack mostly,also thats the reason when they are there at ras hanzir that they have that diesel/fuel oil smell!

Or you could just try spinning with a bit heavier rod and swing the fish you catch on to shore (like what i have to do at bahrija) and then just release them normally,but as there is that much livebait you mentioned there i doubt whether the sawrell will pay too much attention to a lure...
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on June 10, 2008, 09:38:18 CET
freeman i have to be sincere with you...... i used to go there fishing and also know a lot of people from there... there are the cassar workers which when i used to play football they used to take me fishing there sometimes....

it has been a while since some sawrell ta l imperjal has been caught, in dec there was some action and if they want to bite.... i saw people getting them on a dried piece of kavalli he found there on the platform... probably old 2 to 3 days

there is some big lizz there, in fact sometimes i saw ones 5kgs+ and the biggest one i rekon to be caught was around 6.5kgs

however i don't like the place, especially the smell of air which is highly polluted
it is way better to try near pixkerija or black pearl now in summer, especially near pixkerija where it moves in.... there will be people staying fishing there for days(i know a guy) ... you will see a lot trying their  luck sure but in summer it is usually good for some lizz only at ras hanzir

well with the persistent increase in diesel i guess these fish would be perfect for fossil fuel with all the pollution present there
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: busumark on June 10, 2008, 18:56:55 CET
at ras hanzir you have to go in november/december for sawrell.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: SPITEC on June 10, 2008, 19:22:29 CET
In November/December for common sawrell and even for plamti,serra and cudas is good at ras hanzir but just for the fun of fishing not very good for health to eat altough some people do eat them.I fish with running floats and even with pater noster there when there are sawrell and I have good results sometimes you might find bonn aswell.I fish with live bait when I go there.I catch some small lacci or kurunella and I have a good amount of bites.To find it more challinging I use very thin lines like 0.12/0.14 sometimes the line brakes but when you manadge to land a nice fish with those lines you feel really pleased. ;D
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 20:04:31 CET
Where is ras hanzir exactly guys :s ?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on June 10, 2008, 20:06:26 CET
marsa bigboy fejn tas cement( hemm tal marsovin ukoll)
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: SPITEC on June 10, 2008, 20:15:56 CET
Tigi taht kordin my friend
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on June 10, 2008, 20:30:58 CET
ezatt spitec, min imur tibzawx mill klieb jigi s security jwaqqafhom mux ha jigmukhom. hemm 4 jigru l barra. l ahjar hemm tibqu dehlin l gewwa u tistadu fejn l krejnijiet.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 20:49:07 CET
E ok guys nahseb naf fej qijed. Nixtieq inmur niehu cans al lizzijiet hemmek imma nerga nitlaom ax naf li gieli wehlu xi erba sbieh min hemm.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on June 10, 2008, 21:06:16 CET
kbar jaghmel hemm bigboy imma tas sliema ukoll isemmuh hafna ghal lizzijiet kbar. tinzertahom trid
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 21:12:28 CET
min tas sliema giel inzertajt kbar imma mhux ta kuljum hux. Jaf tmur u taqbad 4 sbieh u jaf tmur u taqbad 4 zghar.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: spiru on June 10, 2008, 22:21:36 CET
meta tghidu kbar kemm huma kbar? jien l akbar litz li qbadt min selmun ix xahar li ghadda 2.5kg  bid daghjsa, il qbija dejjem circa kilo jew kilo u nofs
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 22:24:11 CET
heqq meta tejd kbar qed tejd dawk li jaqbzu 4 kili hux
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: spiru on June 10, 2008, 22:31:02 CET
qatt ma qbadt dak il kobor imma gieli wahhalt kahlija u jigi jiblahha xi lizz kbir.u habib tieghi kemm il darba kien qed jigbor konz bil lejl u jigi jahtaflu s sargi.pero nahseb il kbar l ahjar li tistadilhom bil haj bil guardiano ghax hemm iktar cans immissuk milli bil lures.x tahsbu?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 22:34:57 CET
Ifhem spir jien bil lures dejjem wehhiltom il kbar. jew gieli fuq il klamaretti ax jiggennen alijhom. L ahahr sajda lizzijiet kbar li ghamilt kien mil imgieles bid dajsa kont ijed bil klamaretti qbadt 13 kolla akbar min 4 kili ghamilt sa 1 ta filodu kont
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: spiru on June 10, 2008, 22:39:05 CET
sibt xi gliba mela siehbi.le ta qatt ma smajt min qabad din il kwantita.u bil lejl wara d 9pm baqa jmissek?u l imgieles fejn jigi?klamaretti dawk li nuzaw ghal lampuki dawk iz zghar?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 22:42:43 CET
klamaretti huma klamari zghar friski mi ndawk li jaqbdu btat tkarkir. L imgieles hija sikka kif taqbes ix xajra ta haz zabbar. Ijwa baqa jmiss wara 9 ma bediex jatini cans nitfalu u jmiss millewwel. L iskandall jiggennen beda kelli nitfilu l fish alarm ax dejjaqni jdoqq.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: spiru on June 10, 2008, 22:51:12 CET
jien gieli stadt bil haj u hafna ahjar mil lures imma il mutur tieghi 50 hp u niddejjaq insuq mil 1 knot ghax nahseb ma jihux gost
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 22:57:33 CET
Jien ghandi mutur mahluq ghal dak ix xoghol habib. Ghandi dghajsa ta 13 il pied bil 15 u ghandi mutur zghir 4 allura noqod nahdem bih hux.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Freeman on June 10, 2008, 23:03:39 CET
Mela, mort il lejla u ma hadtx messa, fis 7:15 inqalebet il qasba blistand bkollox, anyway wara 10 minuti telat sawrella ta l'imperjal fil wicc, ma tellajtiex lart ghax ma kellix kopp, kull ma kelli ganc u ma kellix aptit noqtola ghaz z***, nassumi li kienet xi 1 - 1.5kg, uzajt felli ta laccia friska li qbadt min hemm stess.
Rigward hut min ras hanzir rajt min kollox (spinning) plamti qbadt u lizzijiet hemm kemm tridu, anke acciol imdaqqas rajt, biss biex tiekolom trid tiehu nofs tuzzana injections qabel tazzarda idduqom.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: spiru on June 10, 2008, 23:11:16 CET
le ta sawrella ta kilo u nofs kont niggangja u ntellahha,jekk ma kontx ras hanzir.jien smajt li jaqbdu xeba hut min hemm imma biex narmieh u ma niklux ma mmur xejn.bil haj ghal accoll u d denci irrid nibda immur.is sena l ohra mort tajjeb hafna bic cervjol zghir haj fuq il knuz tal lampukibig boy gieli wahhalt xi denci bil haj jew bil lures ? jien qed immur bic comb scancio rapido imma mhux ninzel fond bizzejjed ghax lizzijiet biss inwahhal
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 23:12:26 CET
x qijed jmiss min hemm bhal issa freeman?

Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 23:14:28 CET
gili wahhalt dnici man imma bil hajj. nipprova inmurlu fuq ix xifer jew fuq xi sikka man. imma nipreferi nistad ad denci bil konz.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: spiru on June 10, 2008, 23:21:56 CET
d dnieci twahhalhom fuq il konz bhal tas sargi?ghax jien sargi u kahli naqbad bil konz,imma dnieci qatt.u insannarhom bil hniex,bibi,jew sicc.jew xi konz apposta?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 23:29:06 CET
konzijiet tal pagell hux king tal qiegh. jekk twehhel denci btas sargi laqqas tinduna ax jaqta. Brazzoli 0.70 namillu jien habib. nillixkalu bil lacci u voparella u dejjem insib xi wiehed. L akbar wiehed li qbadt kien fih 9 kili u kien ghadu hajj werricni biex tellajtu :p
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Freeman on June 10, 2008, 23:31:44 CET
spinning lizzijiet taqbad generalment, darba fill tara plamtu. Imma nghajdlek il verita bdejt niddejjaq naqra spinning u qed nerga naqa ghal tal qieh u peress li ma min nistghad ihobb hafna spinning u qed niprova insib hut differenti xnaqbad minajr ma noqtol :) imma fil qieh daqxejn imnejjek hemm, sparli ftit u kolla bla demb jew bxi gidma lemm u law, imma ingeneral ghal tal qieh pjuttost dahna.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 23:33:39 CET
imma istja jider li hemm ftit hajja hux. allinqas tara messa anki jekk terga titlaqom.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: spiru on June 10, 2008, 23:34:05 CET
proset man.il vopi hemm bzonn tkun hajja? u x fond tistad?il konz jigri fil qiegh jex bis sufi u comb?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: spiru on June 10, 2008, 23:37:48 CET
freeman , jien u shabi qbadna plamti blo ispinning f marzu ta 4 kilos mil mellieha imma kif ghedt int kemm il darba tmur ghal xejn u nixba inwaddab u ngib,ahjar bid daghjsa ghax noqod relax inhares lejn il fishfinder u niekol
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 23:39:44 CET
lele mitluq mal qiegh bil mazrelli. jien meta tkun hajja l vopi nipreferija imma meta tkun mejta naqbad ukoll. ?Bhala fond dejjem inkala fi 30 qama ax meta tkala f hafna fond il harira iggennek biex terfa ghaliex tajja terfa. ghad denci kull ma nkala huwa 100 sunnara. ghax inkala 900 tal qiegh ghal pagell imbad flahahr infajjar 100 tad denci.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 23:40:50 CET
ogbitni spir li ghadek kif edt. imma meta nara l hut fuq il fishfinder u ma jkunx jrid jmiss aktar nindanna ta.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 23:42:06 CET
freeman hu pacenzja spjegali sew fej qijed ras hanzir pls ax xorta adni minix nifhem ta. tini xi landmark jew ekk halli ma noqodx nigri lol. nixtieq inmur hemm bid dajsa u nintefa relax nistad bl ispinning min fuq id dajsa.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: spiru on June 10, 2008, 23:45:44 CET
mela x differenza hemm bejn tal pagell u tad dnieci? lixka l istess? jew il hxuna tax xlief tvarja biss?.jien nixba nara hut fuq il fish finder u ma jmissnix.kultant ma natix kas tieghu
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on June 10, 2008, 23:47:06 CET
big boy sa l isla tasal bid dghajsa

ibqa diehel l gewwa taqbez l isla.... tigi l marsa ikun fuq l left tieghek
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 23:50:34 CET
ok granitu issa meta dak inmur u nara loool

Spiru id difereza hija d daqs tas snanr u l hxuna tal harira u anki liska hux.

Il fish finder nuzah biex nara l qiegh jien xej iktar man. imma nahseb il hut vera jaqrah ukoll ax meta vera jkun ed jmiss jibda jigennen.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: didinu on May 24, 2009, 13:25:39 CET
NIES TAHSBU LI JIRNEXXIELI NAQBAD XI SAWRELLA JEW XI LIZZ JEKK INWAHHAL VOPA HAJJA MA QASBA BIR REEL U INHALIJA TGHOUM WEHEDA? (SRY TA L SPELLING )
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: mulett75 on May 24, 2009, 15:15:04 CET
Iva ghandek cans tajjeb. Jien mhix l-ewwel darba li qbatt sawrell xi sawrella u xi lizz fuq vopa
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: rammx on June 03, 2009, 08:52:22 CET
mela ghas sawrell jekk nistad b running float ..u nuza t tumbrell ghandi cans tajjeb ??

hemm xi daqs ta sunnara idejali ??

grazzi ;)
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: LapsiBoy on June 03, 2009, 09:23:01 CET
Ijwa rammx ghandek cans tajjeb infatti imgenen biex imorru wahda jin u il lexxun. Halilna sawrella ta :P
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: rammx on June 03, 2009, 09:37:35 CET
serrah rasek lapsi....niprova ma nkunx egoist u nhalli xi haga ghalikom;)
10x
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: SPITEC on June 03, 2009, 12:34:29 CET
Is-sunnara skond x'daqs ikun is-sawrell u fejn tkun sejjer ghalih.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: msell on June 03, 2009, 13:14:56 CET
kif tistadu bit tumbrell?jigifieri  tamel sufra ma tar reel jew kif u kemm ittih l isfel harira perezempju 50? u sunnara 10 tal lampuki tkun tajba?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: msell on June 03, 2009, 13:17:29 CET
s sibt l ghadda messitni wahda fuq vopa hajja u qasmitli r rampila mad... lanqas ridt nemmen harira kelli 50  jigifieri ma kinitx hataqtali zgur.Jien darba biss qbadt wahda kien fiha 2 kilos u qbadta fuq vopa minn dak inhar l hawn qatghuli 7 ohra slavag wisq.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: mulett75 on June 03, 2009, 13:21:39 CET
Msell, tista tistad bir running float jew inkella fil qieh, qisek qed tistad ghall qieh. Meta tistad fil qieh, ghamel il ferha itwal mic-comba, jew inkell usa com tar running lesure
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: kennethb on June 03, 2009, 19:19:26 CET
b'xi spinner zajr jista jinqabad sawrell? jista xi hadd jaghti aktar info fuq il-lure u kif tarma ghalih etc,etc.

grazzi ta' l-ghajnuna
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 03, 2009, 19:39:47 CET
b'popper zghir fil-wicc ghandek twahhalhom siehbi  ;)  tlett snin ilu kont ghamilt festa bir-rapala skitter-pop  ;D
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: kennethb on June 03, 2009, 20:13:57 CET
thanks Martin  ;)
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 03, 2009, 20:57:11 CET
np siehbi  ;D good luck u tight lines
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: accola on June 03, 2009, 22:26:08 CET
bl /







bl spinner tmissek man ukoll ax is sena l ohra tatni pacir inzurtajta tlet darbiet u kull darba qbatila 4 kull wahda 2kg jew iktar




Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: kennethb on June 05, 2009, 11:55:28 CET
u l-ahjar hin li tistad ghalija matul il-gurnata pls?

Thanks

Kenn
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: accola on June 07, 2009, 11:34:03 CET
jien fil ghodu qbathom, imma tinduna li jridu ax tahrom gejjin waraja
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: kennethb on June 07, 2009, 20:24:14 CET
thanks
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: tancred on June 17, 2009, 11:41:44 CET
At Ta' Xbiex, in the evenings, sawrell seems to bite only during a particular hour (say 7 to 8pm) and then 'disappears'. Any idea where it continues biting up to say 10 or 11pm. Maybe pixkerija, Valletta? Any advantage in groundbaiting with minced fresh fish like sardines or lacci? Thanks
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 19, 2009, 20:59:35 CET
I think i need some tips (maybe a homemade explosive device LOL) on these buggers cos they drove us crazy today follwing and not biting  >:(
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: LapsiBoy on June 19, 2009, 21:02:46 CET
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!oMG @ Sawrell ee ... a whole day with sawrell chasing lures, running around and splashing/jumping out of the water...they follow your lure but just dont take it..
some are quite big even 3kg, do you think they will take some tumbrell??
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 19, 2009, 21:14:09 CET
Dont know....they certainly took the P** thats for sure LOL!!!
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: ken on June 19, 2009, 21:38:17 CET
Sawrell are very cunning fish.  About 2 yrs ago i managed to hook a big one on a light tackle (0.18 line) and it gave me a real fight  for about 3/4 hrs!! As my friend was going to net it (it was exhausted) it gave a last jerk and managed to straighten a stainless steal hook and I lost it in the last moment.  It was caught on a piece of cheddar!   
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 19, 2009, 21:43:31 CET
Cheddar is good for alot of fish esp. @ this time of year  ;) Today there was alot of bait fish on the surface and they just weren't interested in anything else...
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: fish-noob on June 20, 2009, 12:03:05 CET
Hi martin,

For type of fish is cheddar good please? lately i have been seeing increased surface disturbances, and yesterday there was a spnotta i think and it terrorised the water, obviously, it want interested in different lures and even a popper.... it there a way to interest these bas*ards?

apart from hooking a live fish?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 20, 2009, 19:25:30 CET
Hi fishnoob,

Cheddar cheese is good for all kinds of fish but in my experience its particularly good for bream's/sargi at this time of year with the increasing sea temp. as the cheddar will release alot of its natural oils even if you fish with it @ night  ;)! and you will avoid the unwanted morini/moray eels that you'll 99% get with hniex/king rag worms....not to mention the bustle of boats,swimmers etc you'll have during the day! 8)

Its very important to buy the proper cheddar cheese and not this pre-packed "vegetarian cheddar" which is in alot of supermarkets,which isn't the same and not very effective. (first of all its a very bright yellow in colour!  ::) cheddar is more pale yellow to off-white)

I haven't seen any spnott/sea bass @ the moment but in my usual spots its full of sawrell of very decent size but they are always running after the small bait fish on the surface and have very little interest in lures (as lapsiboy also confirmed).Ive never caught a spnotta on cheddar but they are well known for snapping up pretty much anything on the surface if it takes their fancy! i once caught a big one with a slice of pizza dough in its stomach!!! and ive heard few other people who also found them with strange things in their stomach so i guess you could always give the cheddar a go!
But personally i agree/go with what you said about hooking a live fish if there is that much surface activity  ;D
Good luck & tight lines

Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: fish-noob on June 20, 2009, 20:13:48 CET
Thanks much martin ;)
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: MartinB on June 20, 2009, 20:20:25 CET
Np mate! hope you hook one of the buggers for me!  ;D
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Barakus on August 24, 2010, 21:41:49 CET
hello jista xi hadd jaghjdli x tip ta snanar tuza as sawrell ta limperjal u xi hxuna ta xlief plssssss ????snanar 6 tajbin jew zaghr ?? u xlief 25mm ??? jew kollox hazin ghandi. ghawn xi qalb tajba  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: toploader on August 03, 2011, 16:24:52 CET
aw xahad qalbu tajba jaf min fejn et jinqabad naqa sawrell ta l-imperjal
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Kevin G on August 03, 2011, 20:20:51 CET
kulimkien sihbi, bahar dis-sena miksi. sa qata ta 200+ wahda rajt darba minom!!  in naa tal port il-kbir nqabdet il-mistra nqabdet ukoll
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on August 03, 2011, 23:50:13 CET
fish farms mal bagi l ahjar habib
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: malvizzu on August 04, 2011, 07:32:40 CET
Quote from: Granitu on August 03, 2011, 23:50:13 CET
fish farms mal bagi l ahjar habib
Mela din is-sena veru mishut jien ghax lanqas messa ta' wahda ghadni ma hadt minn San Pawl il-Bahar. Kulhadd jghid li hawn hafna sawrell izda das-sajf brodu. Uzajt ma nafx kemm il-tip ta' lure differenti u speed differenti izda ghalxejn. Uzajt ukoll lures li s-sena l-ohra anke 17 f'darba qbadt. Stadejt ukoll mal-fishfarms naghlef ghalf tas-sardin u nilliska bicciet tat-tumbrell, izda kollu ghalxejn. Sawrell tahti u lanqas kas tal-liska.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on August 04, 2011, 11:14:02 CET
kemm qed tistad hxuna?

Jista jkun ikollok idejk mcappsin b xi petrol jew zejt meta tnizzel d dghajsa?

dis sena qed zzom iktar fonda u hemm hafna kacca mal farms. Hedjn s sena l ohra batejt biex qbadt 6
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: malvizzu on August 04, 2011, 11:40:56 CET
Main line .60mm 10 qamiet, leader fluoro coated .23mm 5 qamiet, lure minnow tal-Begabite madwar 4cm u comba 10 grams. Ikolli rixa ohra l-istess setup izda minghajr comba. Lures uzajt diversi tipi u kuluri u anke dud tal-lastku. Speed normalment nimxi xi 3 knots. B'din is-sistema s-sena l-ohra qbadt kemm-il darba, kif ghedt anke 17 f'daqqa. L-unika differenza hi li s-sena l-ohra kien ikolli 20 qama l-bahar u din is-sena ghandi 15-il qama l-bahar fuq suggerimenti li kelli. Idejja nkun certa li zgur ma jkollomx xi trip ta riha. Id-dghajsa tkun il-bahar.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: robby017 on August 04, 2011, 11:46:30 CET
ghax ma tarmax b zewg qasab irqaq u traqaq sew..... reels amilhom bit 0.25mm u leader tkun tista tnaqqas al anke 0.20mm jew 0.18mm..... x tahseb?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: ciappinu on August 04, 2011, 11:47:13 CET
Malvizzu, jien bhalek. Is-sena l-ohra xbajt nikol Sawrell min-San Pawl u il-Mellieha. Dis-sena bil kemm doqtom. Jien ili ma naqbad huta bir-rixa, insejt x'igifieri. Pero Sawrell hemm ghax ninzel ftit bil-harpoon, spiss rajt. Forsi m'hawnx il-kwantita li kien hawn is-sena l-ohra, jew ma nafx.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: malvizzu on August 04, 2011, 12:13:03 CET
Robby - Il-problema li qed ikolli sikwiet hija illi l-leader ta' .23mm qed jinbaramli hafna u kwazi qed ikolli nibdel kull darba jekk mhux xi darbtejn jew tlieta waqt l-istess sajda. Nibza li jekk inraqqaq aktar ikolli problemi akbar. Nippreferi rixa fuq idi milli bil-qazba. Fiha aktar sensazzjoni u pjacir meta twahhal huta. Dik id-daqqa li thoss ma nibdilha ma' xejn.

Bejn il-main line u l-leader ghandi rotating swivel u ohra bejn il-leader u l-lure. Issa ppruvajt ukoll nahdem minghajr swivel mal-lure izda xorta kelli xi ftit brim. Ma nistax insolviha din il-problema. Problema ohra hija li meta ndawwar id-dghajsa qieghed nithabbel ta' spiss. Biex nevita xi ftit ikolli nigbed ir-rixa lura kwazi kollha mad-dghajsa fuq in-naha li nkun qed indawwar u mbaghad nerga' nitlaqa'. Izda b'hekk qed nahli hafna hin. Sincerament qattt ma kelli dawn il-problema meta kelli l-frejgatina.

Rigward is-sawrell ma nafx x'qed jigri. Din is-sena kulma qbadt huma xi 12 kahli (li kwazi kollha tfajthom lura ghax kienu zghar) u 8 lizzijiet ta' size passabli.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: robby017 on August 04, 2011, 12:49:38 CET
jekk ed tuza lure, mandekx ikollok ebda brim ax dik tghum dritta! jekk qieghed tuza metalla/spinner, kun cert li swievels ed jahdmu sew u laxki qabel tuzahom ax jekk ikunu qiebsin, al xejn.

jekk ed jithablulek meta ddur, jew ghandek 1 itwal mil l ohra jew inkella edin jghumu fl stess livell u qed iddur f daqqa u mhux fit tul......
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: malvizzu on August 04, 2011, 13:12:29 CET
Rob, din is-sena ghandi kollox gdid minbarra l-body tal-lures. Main line, leaders, swivels, krapar kollox gdid. Peress li nkunu jiena u missieri, ir-rixa tieghi tkun bic-comba 10 grams u ta' missieri b'xejn. Hafna drabi nuzaw l-istess tip ta' lure. It-tnejn ikollna hafna brim, u kif ghedt qabel, gieli bdilt il-leader xi 3 darbiet f'nofstanhar. Bhala reha fil-bahar inkunu l-istess tul. L-unika differenza hija li jien inkun fin-nofs tad-dghajsa (centre console) u missieri jkun fuq quddiem. Mhux suppost taghmel daqshekk differenza. Biex ma nithabblux irrid nehodha hafna fit-tul. Meta ndawwar fil-qasir, xi hadd minnha jigbed ir-rixa kwazi kollha fuq id-dghajsa.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: Granitu on August 04, 2011, 13:14:02 CET
robby, l brim l iktar li jigi mill propellor!!!! nnota li barma dejjem tkun clockwise, d direzzjoni li jahdem l mutur biex jimxi l quddiem. Hawn swivels tajbin habba din il problema, pero m gahdomx fis suq. fil prezent qed nahdimhom jien ghalija.

Malvizzu, jekk ma toqghodx il boghod minn hal tarxien, cempilli wahda filghaxija l garaxx nkun nirfina fuq d dghajsa. Narmalek zewg rixiet fuq idejk bil lures, b harira .18mm u set-up li ghamilt jien biex nevita din il problema, ubad kellimni jekk tergax tigrilek. Pero S sawrella dis sena Kibret ta veru u fiha siegha nejk - pero jien kemm naqbad 6 hutet ghal lixka nkun allura nipprova nhaffef biex naqbadhom. li hu zgur hu li Hzienet (saret Ha**e*a  :P). ukoll hdejn s sena l ohra n naha taghna hawn hafna strill mdaqqas

wara hafna zmien nipprova, jien sibt harira li ma titrembilx, pero ma tinbieghx Malta. L good news li ghandi kwantita minnha nista ntik ftit.

qed tithabbel meta ddur probabli ghax.
- ddur f daqqa
-tkala zewg rixiet l istess tul. Jien nhobb nkala wahda fil qasir u ohra fit tul. Wahda mir rixiet hija qasba (ghax nkun wahdi hafna drabi), ohra fuq idi. ta fuq idejja ntija ftit comb (100grms) halli

nistad ftit iktar fond.
jekk nkun ha nithabbel l harira tghaddi minn taht il lure - u nista ndur f daqqa ukoll

pero qed nuza rod holder ukoll u l qasba nohroga l barra kemm jista jkun halli nbieghed ftit bejn z zewg rixiet
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: robby017 on August 04, 2011, 13:21:05 CET
jekk toqodu hekk ed tigu wisq qrib ta xulxin, jien tal parir li imqar xi hadd minkhom juza qasba ha twessaw ftit..... jew missierek ipoggi fuq wara, jekk centre console......  jekk ed ikollok il brim bil lures, ed isuq fast wisq al dik il lure partikulari u tithabbilek ax tibda ma thumx sew.... swievel, hux imbili gdid, kif missejtu mal bahar dahallu il melh fih..... xi swievels ed tuza? mil komuni?
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: malvizzu on August 04, 2011, 13:28:15 CET
Le swivels gappunizi tajbin (ma niftakarx l-isem).
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: robby017 on August 04, 2011, 13:47:13 CET
my favorite swievels are of grauvell 'Titan' ... they are extremely smooth and stronger than other swievels.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: toploader on August 04, 2011, 18:57:15 CET
tahsu li bil biccit tal lacci tmis is sawrella jew le u bil lejl tinqabad hbib aw xahat jajdli naqa
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: SteveGB on August 04, 2011, 19:22:00 CET
As Robby said I use the grauvell 'Titan'  too...from personal experience....they are very strong.
Title: Re: Tips on sawrell
Post by: toploader on August 04, 2011, 19:45:32 CET
min fuq lart