Hi Guys,
Do any of your spearos go out in deep bluewater using the blue mimetic suits and try going for things like Bluefin tuna etc? I'm really curious to see whether you guys would manage to spear smaller 6-15kgs Bluefin that we come across in early September around 20 miles offshore.
Last year we stopped the boat and were chumming and they were all around us, even though they weren't biting. I'm convinced that if we had deployed a spearo you would have had a field day.
if you make me an invitation we try to land one. I have some friends that spearfish in the ocean for fish like that. Last year they gave a lot of advvice how to fish them. Infact Im waiting for some other rubber. Maybe we try this on one of them. In malta I stopped several times but there was alot of boat traffic around and this use to scare the fish. With big tunas I never meet them but when you want we can try it
lol if emicmalta works wonders and turns me into a good spearfisher by then im game :) however i must say he got his work cut out rofl.
my idea is not of finding tuna aroud but if finding some nice jaws on my back. Dont worry, I show you erhow to do but I ll say on the boat. Last month we meet a guy after spearing the 22kg grouper. He is a scuba instructor from africa. He told us if we do catch a fish like that in africa for sure in less then 5mins will not find it. With all that tuna i dont know what there is under. This isn t a small job
I've watched TV programmes on LineaBlu and fishing channels where spearos have a field day with yellow fin and Amberjack. It would be possible to spear a 10-15kgs BFT, or an amberjack, but one needs to be careful when these fish make a run for it, and one should have adequate bouyancy attached to the spear so as not to get dragged under or loose the spear altogether!!!. Remember, these fish are very strong swimmers, and they're in their natural habitat, while man is playing away with only a limited amount of air in his lungs!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBGRutlPQ0g
this was just post in an italian forum, The tuna kept turning around the spearfisher and for a little it didn t tie him up. Also lood at the flauts and rubbers needed for this kind of fishing
You're right looks bloody dangerous! Was that a really long spear or rubber at the end of the spear itself?
it was shoot by a thick spear so that it can penatrates much more. It should be 7mm or 8mm with a special accesory called slip tip. This works like this. When the pear hit the fish this "bracks up" and keeps on a 8-10cm stainlles steel line so the fish does not brake the spear.
the setup for this kind of fishing con be found in here
http://www.roballen.co.za/
Very ineresting Ed, so it's a whole specialised set up then. Makes sense I guess though I doubt anyone would invest in that kind of set up here?
At first I was joking about this topic but beive me its one of the best espirience one can make. Dont worry, SimonG, Robert, and Jonathan told me about this situation and from that day I worked on it. I have all staff and when its time just tell me and we come. For sure I cannot be alone and need guys that with me that can relay on each other. As you saw there is no mistakes on this job and need to be in 3 in the water.
I don t know if you where with them that day but on that reef there are people who is doing this kind of spearfishing
Ed, we'll have to see if we can convince someone like The Gaffer to take you guys out along with your gear as 3 + gear needs quite a bit of space = a good sized boat with big cockpit like The Gaffer has.
Would be happy to go out together and act as a support boat. Usually in early to mid September we find Bluefin of varying sizes West of Gozo. Smaller ones 2-5 miles out and the larger ones when you're lucky to find them 18-30 miles out.
at the moment is good for another kind of spear fishing. You know what im talking about. Belive me is we do a good one there in this time of the year we could catch much better fish then only tuna.
Sure I saw The Gaffer boat and it looks really fantastic. The inportant thing is that we will do it in good weather and the results will come. Also there is Dave s one Geisha. Really a good boat. Also we can do it with him
I guess it's an amazing experience ............. I would like to be part of the support team if you guys decide to do it. Jesus Christ ..... it's just pure adrenaline.
hey budagrass, here we are not talking about pure adrenaline or something. Over there we go to catch and be safe as possible. Also we will spend money on fuel, every one will have the day out so if im in it I don t want rash things. We spend a lot of money in equipment and dont want to loose it out there. I wish to be with guys I swim with and know that their performance is at the top.
This thing was going to make it alone with some good friends at a max of 2 boats and 3 spearoes in the water. Its really danger so someone needs to have the contral of this. I will speak with Giovanni as he is much better then me and we talk about it
I was talking about open water fishing with a friend of mine this week. Apparently there was a group of people who participated in the competition that practice it. I think it can be practiced in Malta. Last year I had met a group of huge tuna's while on the dinghy, but only had a 90 gun and no reel, so I didnt even dream of getting in the water. If you need another person to join, Ill be more then happy.
Quote from: EmicMalta on July 15, 2008, 09:53:42 CET
hey budagrass, here we are not talking about pure adrenaline or something. Over there we go to catch and be safe as possible. Also we will spend money on fuel, every one will have the day out so if im in it I don t want rash things. We spend a lot of money in equipment and dont want to loose it out there. I wish to be with guys I swim with and know that their performance is at the top.
This thing was going to make it alone with some good friends at a max of 2 boats and 3 spearoes in the water. Its really danger so someone needs to have the contral of this. I will speak with Giovanni as he is much better then me and we talk about it
EmicMalta .... when I was talking about pure adrenaline I meant the fun and thrill of it ... even for just being on a boat watching you guys catching a nice fish. I didn't expect you to go dive with me in open seas. By offering myself as part of the support team I meant as being aboard with you guys, SHARING FUEL like everyone else and having the buzz of giving a helping hand where needed ... imqar jekk inlibes ic-cinturin tac-comb lil xi hadt. OMG ..... dont tell me you thought that I'de be the one diving with you guys in open seas with just a 75 harpoon ? LOL. Anyway .... I don't wanna sound like I am begging to come or something similar .... but if there is an availability for someone aboard I'de be more than happy.
Hi Nick! Long time no see mate! Seems like you really understood the looks that Simon and I were giving each other that day - we could have shot the tuna from the surface without diving at all! What a sight! We will catch some of those beasts spearfishing one day - once I was at the surface in about 12m deep recovering after a dive - I looked down and saw a 15 to 20 kg tuna passing just underneath me like a bullet - obviously I couldn't even perform the duck dive in time, let alone take a shot...but that reminded me of that day we were out there...damn teaser :)
Damn teaser indeed, and very frustrating!!! Adds to the excitment of trying to catch them, and would be nice to see Tuna caught by Spearfishing :) !
which is the best month?
Best month would be september. Yes, the gaffer would be available for such an expedition. This would give me the thrill of a lifetime! I also have an 8 foot dingy with a 4 HP outboard which could be handy
the dingy is a good tool. We will tie it at the end of the lines, firs due that its light and the fish can tow it, second cos even with a guy on it it will stay light, and for your boat, i saw it from pics and really looks well equiped.
Guys had you gone on this expidition ??
No we didn t. We had serviced our rib and we re still working on it. If wanted, we could had tried near fish farms
Emic, some time we can go from lapsi and try some areas under the irdum :) I have some good places ;)
we can do it when you like. I do it a lot but was alone this summer so i dont go more then 15mtr
No i mean wo go with the kajjik in some places under the irdum or next to filfla ;)
Filfla you can t stop, so much more with spearfishing. Regards the cliffs, yes sometimes I went but its not productive.
ed don t you think its a little bit danger going near the tuna pens ,first there are too many ropes in the sea there and if you shoot at a fish and she goes between all that ropes and get tangled in the deep i don t know how you can get her to the surface and pay attention cause near the pens its not the first time that predators are seen there.By the way a friend of mine last year shot at an amberjack about 50 kg near qawra pens but he lost everything because she didn t gave him the chance to release the (rukkel) and went away with the speargun
SUre charjie, we where not intended to go by the fish pans. Too many ropes and there will be dealing with large fish. Also can damage their equipment.
As for preditors sure there will be. Its inposible that with all that tuna there isn t.
This morning I was talking to my dad andone of his friends caught a nice shark from near the pens this year
it all comes down to expirience eg we never have the reel closed cos you dont know what you are going to find
and a good reel must open automatic in that situations
As simon said it all comes with experience. Although a reel might seem to be a simple accessory, if not used properly it can even be dangerous. If the drag is set to such a high level that the line doesn't come out, one will end up loosing his equipment as said above. On the other hand, if the drag is too light, then, as soon as the injured fish gives its first burst of speed, it will jerk the reel making the spool revolve faster for a short period of time. This will cause the revolving axis to draw back into the reel any slack line, resulting in entanglement and blocking the reel.
Can you please send some positions so we go for the big monsters that you are saying ??? ;)....By boat not diving ;)
By the fishfarm mate. About 6nm out of M'scala. Not difficult to find at all.
ROb
They mentioned sharks or other big fish...... ???
Normallly there one can find tuna and ajs but these fish atract the preditors so no surprice for a shark
nice i will do it one day ;D ;D i would love to see a shark
its no the first time that the guys from the pens told us to be careful as we had company. I presume that they were either referring to sharks.... or to an obese tuna.....
both can be dangerous....
Hi guys you are all right, but you have to be in the same situation to know exactly how it happened.
And by the way robert, we never met each other yet..... but many times I am impressed with the detail and precision, you write. I can remember the first times I wrote in this forum, whereby you were telling someone how to modify a gun, and the detail you explained, mentioning different parts of the gun, I did not even know that they are called as such. I admit that sometimes you made me smile, and say 'what d hell is he speaking about', but yep, that's why I like this forum. Some of us are detailed in other issues, and when combined alltogether, we can be a good team...........
Hi baghira - I just started diving more regularly again - still having problems compensating but I'm getting better - at least I can dive now. Hehe I know what you mean but when I write I try to make myself as clear as possible...maybe sometimes ending up rendering things a bit more complicated :)
At the moment I'm pretty tight with not much freetime left on my hands - but I'm planning a dive on Sat or Sun - if you want to meet up just pm me!
Cheers
RG
hello fellows spearos. I just came across this site and I wished I did some preliminary scouting....Anyways I will be in your country tomorrow and will stay until the 13th (unfortunately too short). I would love to hook up with some of you that spearfish in order to go out for some fun. I met one of you that perhaps is on this forum (cannot find his info any longer) that was the team capt at the 98 world cup of freediving (I was the ca for the US team). If anyone is available to give us some direction of were to go from shore or better yet if you have a boat to go out I would love it. my cell is +393488896886 or I could be reached at the riu seabank hotel + 356 2289 1000.
Thank you for your assistance.
Hi peppo I already sen you a PM to answer you.
As regards you robert. I would be glad to meet you my friend, but unfortunately not so soon, since I am going diving to the red sea next week, and for this reason I have some work to finish before I leave. I am also taking very good care, not to get any injury before I leave.
I spoke about you with emic and simon, and they all said good words about you, and told me that you are studying hard (law if I remember well).
So see you a bit later on my friend.
Baghira, peppo doesn't have Internet access at the moment. I spoke with him this evening, very nice guy and I am organising a dinner with him Wednesday evening. Was thinking of some of your spearos who might want to meet with him and chat, if you're interested to come along. He's based in Mellieha so will be somewhere in that area.
SimonG and Emic were going to try and take him out spearfishing tomorrow.
tHOSE ARE THE TWO PERSONS i DID REFER HIM TO IN MY PM. I would be glad to join them but unfortunately I am working.
If you organise something on wed just let me know.
Baghira, you'll surely enjoy the red sea much more than you would enjoy a dive with me! Scuba or freediving? I want to go there one day just to dive with sharks. Make sure you take an UW camera with you and keep us posted!
Sure I will rob..
I took good care of my underwater camera.
Diving this time my friend. I will be on alert to catch a shark in one frame and post it. Hope that sharks over there are a bit tame.....:-)
Thursday will try some blue water spearfishing, Simon, Giovanni, Peppo, his son and I. Will try to film some action too. Tomorrow will talk about it
How did it go ed???
Wastn't such a good weather for filming, pitty huh!!
The weather was too bad so went to comino. I did nt went due of a lot of water in the roads. They went with Giovann and Leli. Caught some sargi and corvinas. Also found some nice groupers like a 5kg and an 8kg ones