Hey ......... I would like to ask if I can buy an alonga from someone over here :D. I never tasted one and really would like to buy one for me and my family to cook for a Sunday lunch. Please let me know if it's possible. THX.
Bil-mod e ..... I only wanted 1 :D ......
hullhadd qied jibzaw li ma thallashomx man. LOL. dont worry mate when i go out if and thats a big IF I catch one i keep it for u, or give u a call see if u still want one. Buddhagrass make sure when u buy one that it does not have a fishy smell. Alungi smell different it more like a blood smell, also that it was kept cool after capture. better still if it was bled after capture. All these things make a difference in the taste of the cooked fish.
Weather is not good to go out for Alungi mate. hopefully end of week will be better
I would offer but the one in the freezer is over a year old and don't think would taste very good!! The meesly 3 I caught this year I gave away.
Quote from: shanook on July 24, 2008, 14:15:11 CET
hullhadd qied jibzaw li ma thallashomx man. LOL. dont worry mate when i go out if and thats a big IF I catch one i keep it for u, or give u a call see if u still want one. Buddhagrass make sure when u buy one that it does not have a fishy smell. Alungi smell different it more like a blood smell, also that it was kept cool after capture. better still if it was bled after capture. All these things make a difference in the taste of the cooked fish.
Weather is not good to go out for Alungi mate. hopefully end of week will be better
thanks a lot shanook ... i'll pm you my mobile number and let me know. Inhalli f-idejk ghal huta ...... jiena ma ghandiex idea kif trid izomma wara li tinqabad u hekk. Umbaghad kemm tghidli kif insajjara ta ........ include that in the price :=-)
Quote from: skip on July 24, 2008, 14:50:20 CET
I would offer but the one in the freezer is over a year old and don't think would taste very good!! The meesly 3 I caught this year I gave away.
Thanks xorta wahda Skip ...... if you dont think it's still tastey ahjar le ma imurx inzanzan Mater Dei ...... (u ikun ukoll il-kunjata,kunjatu,it-tfajla) :-)
As Tony said the key to a good tasting Alunga is a combination of all the following:
1). Whilst being reeled in boat is kept moving forward at a reasonable speed.
2). As soon as the fish is on board it's stunned and then a spike inserted at the top of it's head into the brain. This prevents it from struggling and generating histamine which taints the meat
3.) The fish is then drained of blood, I also like to gut them at the same time.
4.) Finally well packed in ice or iced brine.
Same applies to Tuna except one doesn't need to keep the boat moving forward, in fact if it's a decent sized one chances are you will be backing down on it.
some italian friends told me a metter how to put fish in cold. For example, they have 3 water bottles (2trs) and fil the with fresh water and put them in freezer so they freeze. Then once they start fishing they put 12lts of seawater in d cooler and open the plastic bottles so that the sea water melts the fresh water ice and they mix. This look that it works and in italy they have a name for this technic.
Personally we never tried it cos normally if with the dingy we buy ice before and si it will melt too fast. But for sure will try it cos they say that even the fish colour stays the same
emic its a good idea but i have a slight modification to it. See we are on a boat far out at sea and if something happens the most important thing the body needs is water. So I fill in plastic bottles with fresh drinking water i freeze them and when i place them in the ice box with the sea water i leave them closed. they chill the sea water and if there is an emergency i have about 6 bottles filled with cool fresh drinking water. See we Maltese are wiser than the Ities.
Oh by the way this method of placing the alunga in cold water rather than place ice on it is better as it cools the fish all around. even if u pack ice under and on top of alunga u still get air pockets of hotter air. An alunga can stay for 14 hrs in cold water without causing any damage.
Really interesting information guys ............ how about a good recipe ?
I like this idea cause I've always left the alungi in the igloo filled with these plastic bottles. As Shanook said water is very useful out there and once i'm back into the port we use the water to fill in the shower to clean the boat.
water is getting expensive now :o ;D
nice basut that deepsea posted eh......... kuragg man
nahseb li t-tlieta sejrin ghax jkun ghadu ma qadx sew l -bahar.
vera sbieh. taqtax qalbek ta. naqbdu minnhom ta issa tara.:)
prosit deepsea
maltairport qed igibu ftit rih lohrajn kolla varju qed igibuh. waiting for the picture of first fish shanook
pictures i can get from internet busu but i will post ta whether a buzulieqa jew mazzun xi haga naqbdu ta.Jien ukoll it tlieta qied nahseb ukoll.
Quote from: shanook on July 24, 2008, 18:13:20 CET
emic its a good idea but i have a slight modification to it. See we are on a boat far out at sea and if something happens the most important thing the body needs is water. So I fill in plastic bottles with fresh drinking water i freeze them and when i place them in the ice box with the sea water i leave them closed. they chill the sea water and if there is an emergency i have about 6 bottles filled with cool fresh drinking water. See we Maltese are wiser than the Ities.
its a bit different. They told me that the fresh water needs to be mixed with sea water in the cooler and for this reason they told me to open the tap of the bottle so it dissolve more slowely. Infact they told me to do as with a ratio of 1:2
The way I know it is to mix ice with salt water, this brings the temperature of the water below 0 deg. I also heard that fresh water doesn't do good to salt water fish, so I recomand that you keep water botles closed. With the ice/salt water mixture I can tell you that you will not keep hands in it. Bringing out lampuki to gut from the cooler with this metode, I had to take a break every so often cause my hands couldn't take it.
Thats what I heard as well Ramio, not sure why they are mixing frozen fresh with salt? I would also imagine that you could fill your bottles with sea water and then freeze them for use the next time around and then apply Emics method of opening the bottles to mix?
One should never put fish in contact with fresh water, especially if one intends to freeze the fish. This is because the salt found in sea water is actually an impurity in the water. All impurities in the water will reduce its freezing point. Thus, sea water, being loaded with "impurities" will not freeze at 0 deg C but at a much lower temperature. On freezing, water will expand - given that sea water freezes at a lower temperature, it will expand less than fresh water at any given temperature. The less the water expands, the less damage it causes to the fish's tissues.
I know what you are saying but I will ask the guys what they call this methode and write it down. Your right robert but this is what they told me
this is what they told me about this method:
bellissimi i colori del dentice...avete fatto la baiatura?
scusa Emic ...forse non mi sono spiegato bene: la baiatura ? un trattamento del pescato, del tutto naturale, che consente di rendere i colori dei pesci pi? vivi e brillanti...e c'? che dice che il pesce "baiato" si conservi pi? a lungo...
si ottiene la baiatura mettendo il pesce per una mezz'oretta in acqua di mare e ghiaccio nel rapporto di 1 a 2...
deve essere di acqua dolce...meglio se si riempiono delle bottiglie di plastica da mettere nella borsa frigorifero...poi appena si mette il pesce, si mette una quantit? di acqua di mare che all'incirca ? la mett? della quantit? di acqua dolce ghiacciata...si tolgono i tappi alle bottiglie ...in modo tale che il ghiaccio cominci a sciogliersi e mescolarsi con l'aqua marina...
quindi per esempio...: pesce + 2l di acqua di mare + 4l di acqua dolce ghiacciata ....dentro il vano portapesce , ti assicuro che questo trattamento specie per il periodo caldo consente di trasportare il pescato fino in porto e tirarlo fuori che sembra ancora vivo...
I had a mistake. I said that should be 1:2 but here it says 1 salt water and 2 drinking water