Hi All,
This is my first post on the forum. I do not own a boat at the moment, but am looking seriously into the possibilty of buying one. I've read various foreign articles on the above subject, and it seems possibile to have the main motor coupled to the auxiliary motor so as to control the boat with the steering wheel even when using the aux motor.
I've asked a couple of local agents, but their answer was always that it cannot be done.
Can anyone help me out with this?
Thanks
Rob
really thats what the local agents said LOL I must be gooooooooooood then as with a bit of this and a bit of that, Visa uses the steering wheel to control the boat when using the aux engine.........
will let u know how i did it after i have applied and got a patent LOL.
i leave my aux running straight and turn using my sterndrive, its as big as a rudder anyways...Its a bit slow on turning but if your trolling its fine....
if u want come have a look at my boat. i do not know if it will help u but i have 2 motors 9.9 and both connected to steering!
maybe you can get some clues.
my location is birzebbuga.
claudevella thats what visa used to do but its a big difference especially whan fishing for lampuki andf u have to go round the fad.
placebao i was going to get rich with my patent now u offer it for free man o man ........
I think it was your idea! ....because you must know that my kaptan was Freddie's own boat (mister) and i think he got the idea from you!
wow placebo u have misters boat ..........good one isnt it.......have u tried it in rough weather it rides the waves so nicely.....well done a good buy whatever u paid for it.
No I never talked to mister about the connection must be coincidence. my chances of becoming extremely rich are ebbing every minute
I have been trying to upload the photograph of how I connect my main to my auxillary, but I cant find a valid file to upload with? what programme do you use to post attachments? ???
blueskip
dont bother with the aux engine and main engine, buy my boat, it has two inboard engines and u can turn the boat on its axis.Problem sloved
Shanook, Sell your idea to the best bidder fast, or if things keep on as it is, you will have to pay them to use the metode
yep ramio and i thought i was going to retire early and go to the bahamas and fish for land mermaids or something OH well Another shattered dream..........
The standard method of doing this is with a tie-bar and ball joints either from the rear of the cavitation plate or alternatively from the front where most engines have a mounting hole specifically for twin setups. If you mount on the rear cav plate the tie-bar would need to be easily removed so that once you stop using your auxilliary you can retract it.
Due to the size differences between a main and aux I personally would prefer to have a tie-bar at the front and not on the cavitation plate, you get a better alignment and you don't have to drill the cavitation plates.
There are some clamp on kits which go around the engine legs but not so sure about those and they look messy. With a front mounted tie-bar you can tilt either engine apparently without issues, and Stearns make a stainless steel kit for $61 which is a lot cheaper than some of the other ones I've seen.
Thanks for your replies.
Placebo, thanks for the invitation, but my problem lies with connecting two motors varying significantly in size, eg a 90hp with a 9.9hp. In various italian magazines its refered to as a "barra the connessione".
I've tried trolling (with a friend's boat) with the aux motor (5hp) and steering with the larger motor (50hp). When the sea is clam, with no wind and little current, it is not a problem, but with winds approaching F3 its a nightmare. I have to continuoisly either switch ont he main motor, or manually steer the smaller motor.
THanks again to all
ROb
Skip, too much technical crap ;D which does not make sense to me. Unfortunately I am not a technical person and its like arabic to me. I would be very greatful if someone could post a couple of photos or links to sites illustratin the system.
THanks
Rob
Dude google is your friend, really not enough people use it!
http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0000930019736a.shtml
http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=100785F
http://users.sisqtel.net/jkriz/Outrage/tie-bar-mounted.jpg
hi rob just stsarting.... I am at bugibba at the moment if u are from the north side we can meet and will explain exac tly what i did. See every motor his its own set up. i hooked a 200hp with a 25hp and it works wonderfully. there are other things that u have to consider when using the mechanism i will send u a PM to explain better..
DIY costs would run in the 15 euros.
Tony did you mount to the rear on the cav plate or at the front with your DIY setup?
front and it has to be a quick release set up as well...
Thanks guys, by browising around as seeing a few pics I think I got a decent idea of the options. Just quick question - are there any restrictions on how to mount the auxiliary in relation to the main outboard? At the moment a friend of mine has the aux mounted on a separate bracket, ie not flush to the main as in skip's pic in the previous email. Can this be a problem when installing the connection bar?
Rob
just make some adjustment rob. make a plate to align as much as possible with the main engine they dont have to be perfectly aligned. The important thing is to make sure when u turn the wheel and both engines turn the bar does not foul up with anything but its free moving. GOOD luck
Shanook can you please send me some info regarding this system aswell. I've got a 90hp and 15hp and would really be a wonderful thing to make them steer both with the steering.
Would I need another steering cable or just a bar attacherd to the the other motor ? Can the big motor be out of the water ? The 15hp isn't attached directly to the boat's end but it's on another plate, is it a problem ?
Thanks
Chris 8)
oh ramio my chances of getting rich are looking promising again.
ok guys this is what u should do. First have a good look at ur engines both main and Aux. see if they have mounting hole (specifically made for twin setups). if both engines have it then see how they align. Is one higher than the other, is one set backwards than the other. Once u have established how both holes are related to each other than u either have to make adaptations or else its straight forward round bar. Measure the distance between holes and bend a round bar at both ends. One end will go inside the Main engine mounting hole and the other end into the aux engine mounting hole. try turning the steering wheel and check that the bar can be moved without touching anything.
If i didnt make myself clear please ask again or tell me which part was not clear and i will either post again or else make some drawings. Cannot take pictures at the moment but as soon as I go on visa boat i will take a couple of pics and post them.
do i get any royalties from this shannook , Guys the system works perfectily i would recomand it to anyone who has an aux engine, and uses it for trolling, if you only use it for emengency it will still be ok. photos will be available next week, so keep watch on this tread. Prosit shnaook i thought we had it patened :'(
Oh well Visa if we want to become millionaires there are two things to do. First : 'Go rob an bank' the second is legal 'Become an E.U. representative'
tajba shanook
heq bigboy inti ghandek cans aktar ghadek zghir......
If anybody is interested, I have just inserted a photo into the "gallery" in the "boat photos" section, it shows how I did mine, I found that getting the connecting rod on the same "plane" as both engines was important, hence the angle iron bracket attached to the main engine cover.
blueskip
yep well done, the way its made makes the steering wheel feel light to make turns