Guys can anyone give me advice how to make a konz tal lampuki and how it is fished. Maybe Busumark can give some advice as i have never seen one and id love to make a konz for lampuki.
yessturday there was a guy taht caught alot with the konz. But he told me that he had a lot of small ones and had to let them go. I didn tknew that lampuki can be catch even if they where so small. I taught they never eat the bait at that size
The best advise u can get is from shanook as he made a couple of them in his life and used a couple of them with him, i know that as soon as he sees this he will advise you how its made.
Thje last time we fished with one of twenty hooks and all the hooks were with fish after short time mostly fanfre but there was couple of lampuki. its fun and wile its in the sea u can still troll for lampuki, good luck
Any help ???????? jew insejtuni :s
nahseb ta bigboy li nesewk :/ ax anke lili jiteresani. Bazikament kollox niehu pjacir nara jew namel imbasta tas sajd :p
ixtri naylon li ma jeriqx u ixtri ukoll sufri mil ovali l homor dawk li juzaw al parit. issa skond kemm ha tamilu snanar tamel sufra qisu al kull 2 snanar tamel sufra. dahhal s sufri kolla u kull 2.5 qama orbot s ufra man nylon bil hajt biex ma tigriex. imbad orbot s snanar bil .50 u ghamel l brazzol xi 1/2 qama. halli 1/2 qama mis sufra u orbot brazzol blistess mod kif torbot tal-qieh halli 1.5 qama u orbot brazzol iehor sipost 1/2 qama ohra ikolok s sufra. u erga ibda 1/2 qama brazzol 1.5 qama brazzol u komli hekk. s sufri lahjar li tizbohom bojod ha jidru izjed fil bahar
li inzied ma li qal buzu hu li fil bidu naghmel sufra naqra kbira halli tehel mal kurrent u flahhar nuza ballun hafif halli jigri mar rih u izomm il konz stirat.
Nylon bhala medda min dak l-orangjo li juzaw ac cimi ? X'kobor ta' snanar tuza busu? kif jkun il methodu biex tistad ezempju tibda bir rixa u malli taqbad lewwel lampuka tkala min hemm? xtuza lixka? kemm thalih jistad ?
the best if u use squid as all fish like it and you can fish for lampuki, tonn and also fanfri, kif ukoll cervoil, the size of the hook has to be the right one for the size of the lampuki at the moment its small so dont use big ones but later on it will grow so u have to use medium one as also the lisca has to be bite size both for lampuki and for fanfri, otherwise the fanfri will stay biting it, and dont get hooked.
Thanks guys. When yu say squid it is cut like we cut for konzijiet tal qiegh??
the pieces must be 1cm x 3-4cm not more or else as Visa said it will keep biting.
Ok man thanks very much. Jekk tarma 50 sunnara bizzejjed jew ftit ?
30 hooks is more than enough, when you find them hungry they come next to the boat waiting for you.
today there where a lot around but didn t wanted to bit. Got only 3 but nothing else. Sometimes I was seeing even a group of 40 around. Was using squid
was what a lot ?? of lampuki and how were u fishing with a rod and reel and using squid or where you trolling please let us know
yes there was a lot of lampuki around, and with the konz they didn twanted to bite. We caught 3 and the bait was fresh but still the others doesn t looked at the bait.
Then on the rixa trolling we use to catch but with all that lampuki one thinks that will find on the Konz.
as for the rods we don t use them. Its still small for it but I have to say that i lost 1 over 2kg. The Fads near land have bigger lampuki but only that one was as big like that
Following information on this post provided by Busumark, Shanook etc, I am attempting to make a Lampuki Konz, however I do need some further information as to which knots are used to :-
1 ) Attach leader ( brazzol ) to main floating line.
2 ) Tie Red Pariti Floats to main line.
If anybody could provide the knot names and better still , scan and post an illustration of any knots that are appropriate for the above tasks I shall hopefully manage to complete the line before the season is over.
Any feedback whatsoever appreciated.
Thanks
u can use crimps, beads and a swivel snap lock to the main line, so u can change the brazzol size and hooks. U can have ready snelled ones and just change them.
the floats apart from passing them through the hole tie with line with a thread
Shanook,
Thanks for your reply.
So for floats I gather any simple tie down would do.
As far as brazzol goes I did think of swivel set -up initially but shelved idea as thought it was too complex. After your input it's time to revisit I guess - but I have not understood layout of the brazzol with beads, crimps etc. ?
Could you please explain further or perhaps provide a picture of an existing set-up.
Thanks
what solution is there to retrieve the conz, imagine this, catching 40 lampuki with a 50 hook konz , il lampuki wahda tigri law lohra lemm, xtuzah darb ohra il konz miraklu jrid jkun , xtahsbu?? il godda jahsbu bhalu u lantiki jitku bijna , memx xtamel.
manafx ta man jien qatt ma stadt b tal lampuki imma inmur bil konzijiet tal qiegh al pagell u allahares noqod namel konz gdid kull darba.
ma tarax, melka kieku trid toqod tamel 1 kull darba qas qatt ma nohrog alijom. Jien andi 4, u kull ma namel min sna al ohra niehu hsieb il ferat u dak kollox
u bej fera u ohra kemm thalli u kemm tamila twila bix ma taqatx meta tkun et tigbet lura . u sufra tal pariti kem thalli
pupu jekk taqbad 40 lampuka min 50 sunnara worth it li tamel iehor. bdak l hut kolla jereq zhur l konz. mur aqbad t tarf li l kurrent ma iwaqakx fuq l konz u ibda suq bil mod u erfa. jekk tkunu 2 wiehed jerfa l konz u kif tasal l huta aqtaha mil ilma u tija l liehor biex jehlisa u dejjem hu tank mil blue miz zar ha titfa l hut go fih
Iebsa naqa busu biex taqbad 40 fuq 50 sunnara :P jin is sibt ha niprova bkonz ta 100 sunnara issa nara xinu gej :)
Quote from: busumark on September 11, 2008, 22:07:10 CET
pupu jekk taqbad 40 lampuka min 50 sunnara worth it li tamel iehor. bdak l hut kolla jereq zhur l konz. mur aqbad t tarf li l kurrent ma iwaqakx fuq l konz u ibda suq bil mod u erfa. jekk tkunu 2 wiehed jerfa l konz u kif tasal l huta aqtaha mil ilma u tija l liehor biex jehlisa u dejjem hu tank mil blue miz zar ha titfa l hut go fih
ahna hekk namlu.
lapsi boy, gieli kelli 3 ta 30 sunara u ma tfallix sunnara. Il lampuki meta tkun trid warbila u trid tkun preparat
100 kbir wisq lapsi boy tarax kbir ghax kollox oqda jigi jekk issib l-kurrent jew imissuk xi 4 lampukiet sew ahjar taqsam l-konz f'4 ta 25 sunnara.
mil granet kollha tal gieghma sibt l ahjar gurnata biex titfa il konz. Oqod attent u oqod mijaw specjalment dawk in nahat li semmejtli. MIn jaf xi jkun hemm ta daghjes
lele spitec jin u inkalah ha naqsmu ax kien am wihed blesperjenza ekk qali :) ...qabel ma naqbad kaxxa hut (mil linqas) ma tarax lart id dajsa ada !!issa naraw xinu gej hoping 4 the best
Jin ada haj kolli 4 bnadar truf...u kaxxa ax jin il hut nigdimom mali intelahom ax inkela got tankijit il blue kolla jingirfu...u ha nihu totli u xi 3 tubrelli ...u al xi monstru nuhu ganc :p
they gave u a good advice lapsiboy. Its better to have one of 25 hooks and if u work properly it will keep u occupied all day long (as long as lampuki want to bite that is). I dont like to have more than one as that way u concentrate on it and not always on the look out for boats. I agree that u have a spare one or two just in case the one u are using gets tangled.
Have fun
u meta tkun et tigbru tuzaw tank bix xoffa tas sufra biex itella u twahhal snanar mal sufra ax darba ijlu hrigt ma wiehet al tal qieh u ek ghamel!
Dik ovja naqa pupu :P imma 10x xorta
l-ovja tijak huwa taghlim gdid alijja lapsiboy . u sufra minfej tista tixtri e u xi haga ohra , kont bihsiebni namel snap swivel ma kul fergha u namel holqa mal medda halli malajr nkun nista nbidel snanar blistess konz u jek nitaqqat tkun ehfef, provajt namel dropper loop imma iebsa alijja, em xi loop ohra ehfef al mal medda?
ara pupu. Jien nuza din is site
http://www.animatedknots.com/indexfishing.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com
Sippost andek tahdem sewwa jek tara fuq dina. Aqbad bicca nylon u provahha l ewwel, nbad x hin tamel daqs 6, hemm ibda amel il medda biex zgur ma taqqadx int u tahdmu.
http://www.animatedknots.com/dropperloop/index.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com
sufra issib man ernest ta marsaxlokk tijaw irhas min ta hwienet ohra
xamilna lapsi boy? qbadna xi tuzzana jew?
Qbadna xi 30 ta u kienu sbih ala ibirek :) keli fej naqbad hafna izjed ax kien em sahha ta hut imma kont ma wihed u qabdu id deni u thalna ..al darba ohra nergaw...emic rajt hafna imsell em isfel ..provawlu bir rixa ax sbieh!
L'ahwa, l-imsell kif tistadu min fuq id daghjsa? jejdu li liska tal genn ghal lampuki.
Ramio jin ma tantx nifem flimsel imma brixa bajda tal kahli gili misitni xi wahda :)
bl ispiner mn dak l irqieq hafna jmiss ukoll, poro kif semma xi hadt l ahjar l erq, jew bicca grass tal bacon
proset LapsiBoy. Qed niehu pjecir li smajt li qbadtu semkom. Hallejtom mal kurrent jew ankrajtu il konz?
adni kif gej mant george ta marsaxlokk tani hara al medda u .70 al ferghat , issa kif spjegajtlu li al lampuki u blarmar li qal buzumark li tamel sufra , 1/2 brazzol , 1.5qama brazzol, 1/2 sufra , qalli dak il lampuki jigri u jaqqadlek zgur , suggerijli sufra kul 5 qamiet u brazzol bejniethom , jekk hdimta sewwa
15 sunnara X 5qama = 75 qama
75 qama jigi xi 100m (daqs ground tal futbol) et marah naqa mqazzez al 15 sunnara biss.
andkom xi suggerimenti , qabel nibda narma..
grazzi lahwa
ijwa emic smajt minek u ma kelix daqsekk trouble 10q tal ajnuna :)
Pupu jien bhalek gralli izda jien ma stajt niefmu bxejn , izda sakemm xhin hazistu naqa fuq bicca karta u tara li jigi " jamel sens". Grazzi ovjament lil Busumark u lil ohrajn li ghenu bhalu
kif qal buzu jamel sens naf imma anke kif ghal tal hanut, jekk amilt bhal ta buzu u qbat iktar min wahda u ma taqadlekx ajdli ha namel bhalu ax nkun et nerbah doppju snanar blistess tul ta medda.
propjament as sena diehla ax il kajjik mhux se lahquh al lampuki :/ nispera li patti al di sena u ta qabel :P ;D
pupu l ewwel darba li armajtu kont amiltu s snanar kul 3 qami. imma imbad indunajt li meta specjalment torbtu mac cima l hut izjed imisek fuq s snanar li huma vicin c cima. gieli qbadt fl ewwel 7 snanar ta fejn c cima kolla u daqshekk igifieri kieku flok 7 snanar kell 14 snanar flistess tull kont naqbad izjed. ghalhekk amiltu kull 1.5qama s snanar u mort hafna ahjar. tinsiex li meta lampuka tinqabad l ohrajn jigu maha u jekk l liska tkun vicin hemm izjed cans li tara. barra min hekk george hlif jeqred ma jamilx :)
xtrajt kollox issa kem narma , issa qaluli li tit idahhal lewwel sufra (min dawk ovali) umbat snap swivel issa meta bdejt ndallal swivels bdej jaddu min go toqba u jigu gozz!! xamilt jin liblah, mela fxi qama dahhalt sufra u qabbatta naqa bid dowel amilt swvivel u kompleta ek , problema hi li irrid naqla is sufra ta gewwa u mexxijja tul kollu tal konz!! nsomma et jhosni li zgur em mot iehor kif tarma ,
ghandkom xi parir al bniedem fil bzonn bhalli
pupu, milli jider ahjar thalli kollox fil kaxxi u l ippakjar, u ahseb al kollox is sena id diehla ax il lampuki zmien ibes se jatuna 8)
jin furtunat man, u bahri ta limqalleb mux tal bnazzi. xtahseb andek parir fuq larmar
Ma nafx, jien kif fimta jien. Kieku jien minflokok kont nibda sufra nofs qamma, brazzol, inbijad qama u nofs, u nerga brazol , u terga nofs qamma u sufra. jien hekk fimtu issa jek fimt hazin eduli pls ukol 10x
jien al armar ta sajd nhalli fidejn il boss siehbi. Nmur hemm u nsib kollox lest. Al knuz minmac cimi nisugerixxi knuz zghar ta 25 sunnara, nbad ta mal hajt sa 50 sunnara.Trid tqis meta jkuntwil u b xi huta jkun tqil ax int dejjem andek anke il kurrent kontrik u trid tigbru luwra.
Haga ninota, ahna ghandna konz minnom ta 25 sunnara, gieli jigi il brazzol lejn is sufra u gieli kontra minhabba skond kif inkalawh u nigbruh (kul darba iddur is sistema ax int tkala min bidu u mea tmur tigbru tigbru min l istess post u alluwra tal bidu jigi taht). Dan narah li meta il brazzol jigi qrib is sufra il konz ma tantx jahdem ax jkollu cans iktar bir kurrent jitrembel mal medda.
Nisugerixxi li il brazzol jigi fin nofs bejn isufri u is sunnara qatt ma tilhaq is sufri, pero jekk il konz ser tuzah min fuq l art ahjar il brazzol jkun xi ftit qrib is sufra sabiex jkollok inqas guiri mil huta (u int dejjem l ewwel tarf (in naha ta fejn il brazzol u iktar il boghod mis sufra) jkollok torbot ma l imrejkba)
jien niccajta kont qijed pupu ta, tajd ma jergawx jersqu xi ftit. ahna qisna qtajna qalbna minnhom u alissa waqafna, perodaqt nergaw natu naqa giri alijom specjalment jien nintefa nowm xi ftit u siehbi joqod jilab b zewg konzijiet mal hajt
jin ha namel sufra kul 4 qamiet u brazzol bejniet is sufri , problem hi . irid indahhal sufra u brazzol it tul kollu tal medda hux ek ax meta dahhalt kollox fdaqqa biex umbat imexijom , is swivels adew mis sufra u gew gozz . memx xi sviwels al konzijiet hux forsi em mort zball???
u jin niccajta ukoll ax dis sena infaqt bxi lm30 lixka u ma qbatx lm5 hut , imma nies bhalkom jamluli kuragg nsir sampej ax li jkolna bzonn naqsmuh ma xulxin ta komunita tal genn li ahna
alura emic, il konz tijak kif inhu armat? tipo sufri kem huma ibedin u il brazol u hekk...?
jien ma namilux swivels norbot l harira man naylon. xorta naqbad u inqas jithabilek meta ikun fit tank peres li m aikunx hemm swivels
inqas ma iddahhal cucati izjed ahjar hbieb. Ax inqas hemm maxix taqbad il harira fit tank
Veru! Jin uanke oqda gili igenini! ax jek ma taqtahix sewwa mit tarf taqbad xi bicca mil konz tal qih u terfghu il fuq ! umbad zgur ikollox xtamel !
taghna ma nafx kemm uma imbedin is sufri imma skond iz zmien jkollok il konz. Mhux ax hemm xi balla knuz imma anna al 2 seasons, al meta tibda, dik t ataht il 1.5kg u al dawk li huma ikbar. Id diferenza hi li is sufruni jkunu naqa ikbar u jkunu ftit iktar imbedin u ukoll jkun hemm id diferenza tas snanar bhala size.Kif qalu l ohrajn ahna ukoll ma nuzawx swivils ax iktar cans li taqqed. Norbtu ingassa man nylon u dik ma tigriex u jekk jkun hemm bzon tholla jew taqta ma issibx problemi
xtaqt nara minfejn nista nixtri xi lacci al liska.... tafu min fejn pls ax ili ndur ???
lacci trid tqum kmieni u tinzel il-pixkerija ghax ma tantx issib tixtri easy.
10x fishfinder....
u irid ikun ghamel bnazzi ax inkella ma ikunux marru alija. u ma tantx ha ituk inqas min kaxxa shiha
mela nimmagina se nsalli bix insib bhalissa ........ :/
nahseb li b'dan it temp huwa impossibli li sib tixtri. ghax ma tipruvax bil-kavalli?
skuzani linjoranza,,,,dak isib tixtri iktar facilment ??
inti al xix ha tuzah. al konz tal-qieh,pixispad jew lampuki? ax al lampuki mhux tajbin l kavalli. skond kem trid kavalli jew tixtri bil kaxxa mil pixkerija jew min marsaxlokk fejn l pompa tad diesel jew min and fish&fish t triq tal gudja. imma jekk trid ftit s suq ta marsaxlokk gieli ikollom
kif mort illum daqs kemm kien maltemp