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Boat Fishing in Malta => Jigging => Topic started by: benri on December 06, 2010, 17:43:36 CET



Title: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on December 06, 2010, 17:43:36 CET
Has anybody ever tried jigging with an electric reel successfully?


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: clutch_kick on December 06, 2010, 23:24:39 CET
it's wrong! very wrong!!

jig like a man... use your arms :D


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: robby017 on December 07, 2010, 09:47:58 CET
i have to agree with clutch kick...........


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: shanook on December 07, 2010, 15:35:22 CET
well if its not to deep than jig with our arms if you can keep it up, but when you get to certain depths then all I have to say is NINI NINI


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: jessijames 2 on December 07, 2010, 21:16:11 CET
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/06/vagabonds-4052-pound-tuna-potential-world-record/

For those that they want to break the world record.....


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on December 08, 2010, 06:49:29 CET
wow. I would have released that........


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: shanook on December 08, 2010, 17:09:06 CET
yep I never doubt you would benri................


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on December 08, 2010, 18:09:29 CET
so back to the subject....:) Apparently nobody ever jigged with electric reels sucessfully so I shall be the first to try! Mur emmen  >:(
At least can anyone suggest a good electric reel for deep jigging? If I read correctly from some research I made it should be able to retrieve at approx 180m per minute.


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: clutch_kick on December 08, 2010, 23:23:41 CET
I can help you with the Jigs but not the reels benri sorry :)  Electric reels usually have pre-programmed actions for jigging the lures, so i guess if it has a Jigging function it is fine.


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: visa on December 10, 2010, 17:55:05 CET
hi berni have a look at my electric jigger in the boat garage its with the rods next to my boat, its a electric jigger, deep sea  fishing reel MIYA EPOCH c 8hp and to get the best information go to http://www.ehow.com/how_2175500_pick-deep-sea-fishing-reels.html also u should get busu to explain more about his Crystal fishing reel.


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: shanook on December 10, 2010, 19:58:20 CET
No Visa the Kristal does not have jigging action. Its the Miya and the Daiwa. The daiwa has a lot of jigging reels of medium depth. The ones for deep sea and have jigging action are the Daiwa tanacom.......and the Miya epoch in various sizes 6 8 and then the bigger ones that run in the 4000 dollars range
Mine does not have jigging its for deep sea. Have a look at Johns at the Club and then we will have a chat.

look see: http://www.technotren.com/command-x6n6.html


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on December 11, 2010, 07:05:48 CET
will come to the club this morning and try out john's reel in the water tank :)


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on December 11, 2010, 18:22:31 CET
thanks digger - are you sure about the web site? i've currently set my eyes on the daiwa seaborg 500fe for jigging - Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: shanook on December 11, 2010, 19:27:55 CET
this is what he meant bryan

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/fishing/articles-reviews/2831392/A-beginners-guide-to-jigging-PART-1


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on December 12, 2010, 09:24:32 CET
Thanks digger. I have an Okuma Cedros (rod and reel) set-up on which I managed to land 2 large ajs (8kg and 13kg) without problems. It's a great setup but the only problem is the price I have to pay with my backache for a whole week after one day's jigging!


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on December 12, 2010, 09:55:46 CET
Thanks. I never thought about the regulator issue - a wise investment I guess.


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: ganni on December 12, 2010, 11:30:48 CET
@ if the reason for the electric reel is the back ache you should by a good reel and a good rod and you'll see the difference.

Maybe a stella 8000/5000 and a good light rod like xzoga/tenryu/.....

with a max 200g rod and a stella 5000 you wont feel an itch after a full day jigging and you could still pull up big fish (over 20kg) and the fun would be increased by 10 times :)

you could also go for even lighther jigging.... but dont think that you'll enjoy jigging with an electric reel, it would be the most boaring fishing ever.


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: visa on December 13, 2010, 13:11:59 CET
so did u try my jigger in the tank, if so please teach me howto use it??


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on December 13, 2010, 13:36:34 CET
yes we did but not in the tank. Tony tied one end of the line to the trolley of the tank and then started reeling in until the line broke :)


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: robby017 on December 13, 2010, 14:15:14 CET
was it the line that snapped? i thought it was the top guide giving in.......


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: clutch_kick on December 13, 2010, 16:35:11 CET
@ if the reason for the electric reel is the back ache you should by a good reel and a good rod and you'll see the difference.

Maybe a stella 8000/5000 and a good light rod like xzoga/tenryu/.....

with a max 200g rod and a stella 5000 you wont feel an itch after a full day jigging and you could still pull up big fish (over 20kg) and the fun would be increased by 10 times :)

you could also go for even lighther jigging.... but dont think that you'll enjoy jigging with an electric reel, it would be the most boaring fishing ever.

Amen!!

Guys jigging is a very dynamic technique, it is always evolving.  The trend in the Med at the moment is Light/Medium Jigging.  There is no need to have Rods that work lures of 300g and a Reel that can pull out a tuna!  If you do not want to break your back go for light Jigging.  Get a rod with a lure weight of 150g, Line weight of 2-3PE and a invest in a good 8000(S)/4500(D) reel.

Keep the line as thin as possible, it is common to use 30lb these days.  It makes the fight a hell of a lot more fun.  Thinner line means less friction in the water, so you will get tired less and the current will not hamper your jigging technique.

Then there is Inchiku, the equipment differs a little.  You need a very sensitive rod, that still has plenty of backbone to fight the mediterranean fish.  A multiplier reel is usually used, capable of holing about 250m of 25-30lb braid.  A reel that can keep 5kg of drag smoothly is MORE than enough.  Inchiku is a LOT more relaxed than Jigging, and target fish like Pagri, Tanut, Pagell and Cipullaz, aprt from the usual dentex and amberjacks. They way the lures are worked is also different.


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on January 01, 2011, 09:33:40 CET
thanks for your input guys. Ganni and Clutch Kick, sorry to bother but what rod/reel set-up would you recommend for inchiku?


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: ganni on January 01, 2011, 13:49:21 CET
im no inchiku expert benri, however buy a good rod from the start as youll end up having to buy another one.  clutch_kick can guide you well about the major craft rods which are good rods :)

i would go for a baitcasting reel (obviosly the rod must be the baitcaster type of rod).  a medium priced shimano 300 size reel should do the job ;)


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: clutch_kick on January 01, 2011, 18:59:12 CET
Benri, contact me on PM.  I have some catalogues and samples.


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: baghira on January 02, 2011, 07:46:19 CET
Guys I am no expert at all but due to my probs I was lately going to buy some jigging equipment to spend some time at sea.

I gave up on my first attempt to buy since that after going to angler and mr fish I was shown 1000 rods and 500 reels and did not have a bloody idea what to do. Some said do not care about the rod, the most imp. is the reel some said otherwise... Then I was going to see some okuma due to your good words about norbert, but here you are saying that they aren't good for jigging???? Clutch kick also wanted to sell me his equip. but I gave up since that as an interested beginner, I have no clue what to do.... Obvously I as still thinking about this possibility...

Price is also imp. I do not want to spend 500 euro to go once and give up....
So any comments??


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: benri on January 02, 2011, 08:23:21 CET
I am no expert Baghira but I'll try to help the best I can and hopefully you will also get some input from the experts. Basically first you have to decide what type of jigging you are interested in as there are different types. The ones I know of are the "normal" vertical jigging (with which I caught nices aj's), then there is Inchiku and then there is Kabura.
The most popular is the vertical jigging as I think it produces most results, but the drawback is when like me, people suffer from back pain! After a days jigging I couldn't stand my back for 2 weeks! I am also not the fittest type of guy in the forum and that doesn't help my back either :) For this type of Jigging I use the Okuma Cedros which in my opinion is one of the best set-ups.
Following my back pains however, I was going to try and switch to an electric reel, but then started considering lighter jigging following the advice of a couple of forum experts who told me that it would no longer be fun with an electric reel! This is when I started looking into the other types of jigging.
Inchiku is a lighter form of jigging where you have less jerks and slower but constant reel ins. Different type of jigs are used which are sort of split into 2 parts, the weight and the lure. The idea is to sort of "dance" the lure about. For the Inchiku you also need a differerent rod and reel set-up which hoever is very similar os the same as those used for Kabura.
With Kabura you are using different lures which are kept to the bottom.
I invite other members to please correct me where I went wrong and to continue adding on!


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: baghira on January 02, 2011, 08:59:40 CET
I saw some videos of all techniques.
I would like to target normal vertical jigging.... snappers aj.....
still much is to be said about this


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: clutch_kick on January 02, 2011, 09:20:02 CET
Clutch kick also wanted to sell me his equip. but I gave up since that as an interested beginner, I have no clue what to do.... Obvously I as still thinking about this possibility...

... and you still did not come to see the rod and reel.  This is the same rod I have. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZsiRtT2jrc


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: shanook on February 11, 2011, 08:02:02 CET
ONE second, how come if u use an delectric reel itsd not fun?!?!?!?!?!
when using an electric reel all u are taking off from vertical jigging is the turning of the reel handle to recuperate the line.
if you use an electric reel all u have to do is put it on slow retrieve and u still have to jerk the lure. this makes it esier for those with back ache. if you are very sensitive to back ache then the full jigging reel is the only option. The part of jigging is the physical stuff is out BUT u still have to fight the fish and this can be done like a normal reel that is reeling it in by hand.....so how come this is not fun.
If one is young and strong and can keep up with the jigging action, then fair enough do it, but for those who cannot keep up the stress of jigging (no matter how balanced the rod and reel are), then dont shy away from an electric reel.
Initially when we started using the rod and reel for fishing in Malta and we imported the large lures for Alungi (150mm) I was branded. I was told that I was going fishing for sharks and that its not fun with the rod and reel. I was also critisised that the liner is toooooo thin and would break with the first fish caught. check with the ones who started fishing for alungi they used lines of 100.
Now everyoneis going down down down......even certain reels are considered as overkill.....


Title: Re: Jigging with electric reels
Post by: digger on February 11, 2011, 17:16:50 CET
Amen. :D