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Title: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: zanetti on October 23, 2015, 11:57:16 CET
Hi,Guys

I am in the process of buying a new 4stroke 115hp outboard motor for my 18ft boat weighing approx 680kg..However I am confused which brand I should go for either Yamaha or Suzuki..I heard that both are good motors however I would like your genuine opinion with regards maintenance,affidabilty,mechanics and aftersales.. Mainly I use my boat for leisure and sometimes fishing just for fun nothing serious.

And well done for your contribution to this forum.


Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: redhead on October 23, 2015, 20:10:31 CET
both are great motors. Buy the best dealer !


Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: skip on October 26, 2015, 09:24:18 CET
Hi Zanetti,

Are you also using your boat for Watersports (Skiing, Wakeboarding etc), and do you tend to go out with lots of people?

I ask because you should also consider the 115hp Evinrude E-TEC or Mariner/Mercury 115 Optimax due to the super holeshot and power delivery that a Direct Injection engine offers.

For Yamaha vs Suzuki, I would start off comparing prices of: Annual service over the next 5 years, parts required and their costs, and the warranty period offered on both engines.

Then look for the little things like if a prop is included and if so is it Aluminium or Stainless, any digital gauges and if so how many and what engine data do they show.

Both are very good engines. Suzuki DF115SS is worth looking at and has lean burn technology as well. And the new Yamaha F115 has been redesigned with many new features and Yamaha state it's the lightest 115hp 4 stroke by 24 pounds (weight).

For either make sure you are getting the latest stock, should be a 2016 model by now.


Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: zanetti on October 27, 2015, 08:37:10 CET
Skip,

Thanks for the interest and info..Mainly I will be using my boat with family and occasionaly some friends..I will be visiting both agents of Suzuki and Yamaha and get more info. Meanwhile one last question in your opinion a 115HP  will be enough for an 18ft boat weighing 680kg?

Thanks again much appreciated


Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: skip on October 28, 2015, 11:32:33 CET
Skip,

Thanks for the interest and info..Mainly I will be using my boat with family and occasionaly some friends..I will be visiting both agents of Suzuki and Yamaha and get more info. Meanwhile one last question in your opinion a 115HP  will be enough for an 18ft boat weighing 680kg?

Thanks again much appreciated

Depends on the boat and it's hull design. Deep V hulls with a high deadrise will require more power than shallower Vs but then ride better in rough weather.

What boat is this engine going on?

115hp is usually ideal, I had an 18ft with a 90hp that was rated for max 115hp and I always regretted not going for the 115.

Some 18 foot boats will take up to 150hp depending on design and rating. I always advise that people put the largest engine the CE plate is rated for. It's always better to run an engine at lower revs than having to push an engine at higher revs on a boat that is slightly underpowered.


Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: Borussia on October 30, 2015, 13:16:26 CET
I think both are great motors. Talking to my friends at work some are opting for Yamaha and some are Opting for Suzuki because they are certain Suzuki are doing great improvements in Outboard motors. Mates said that Suzuki are rating better on foreign forums.


Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: Meccanic on October 31, 2015, 15:00:53 CET
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Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: Mr.R on November 05, 2015, 11:13:24 CET
do you supply honda?


Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: malvizzu on November 05, 2015, 15:33:30 CET
Honda outboards are supplied either by GasanZammit Motors in Mriehel Bypass or SafeSea Malta in Mosta.


Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: baghira on November 22, 2015, 09:18:20 CET
So as you well said one of the things to keep in mind is the seller........and after sales....
I am not going into detail but....

A part for sale from 2 different agents (BOTH ORIGINAL),
from one costs 250 euro, and from the other 157 euro..... for the exact same part.....

And then they tell you case we have more employees, more costings etc etc etc..... What the heck do I care?? Its nearly double the price....

So you should not just consider the initial price....


Title: Re: 4 Stroke Outboard Motor
Post by: Borussia on November 25, 2015, 21:05:16 CET
Would like some expert advice on this topic. I am also not sure to either go for a suzuki 115 or a yamaha 115. Would choose the brand which have the best after sales service and reliable technicians. Anyone could suggest a tech for the suzuki and a tech for the Yamaha which are reliable in order to speak to them before deciding? Suzuki are offering 5 years Guarantee vs the 2 year guarantee of the yamaha. Also can anyone help me and guide me through there experience re after sales and techs of both? My friend recommended some one from Suzuki which is highly professional dont know if Dominic Zarb is his name. Do he makes the services if i choose Suzuki? Thanks for your Help.