2011 - Spinning from shore

[clutch_kick]

For spinning you do not need more than a 1m long leader.

There are specific lines that are fluorocoated for spinning, but they tend to be expensive.  Best if you switch over to a braided line. No more than a 25-30lb braid for spinning, depending on your setup. The lighter the better.

[Rush]

Rush, from the stuff that I sell, the highest catches were reported on the Mommotti 140, the Finder Jerk and the Jugulo 20g and 40g.  Yesterday however I was emailed a few pics of some catches on a topwater lure the Proteus 90.  So basically, those lures and anything similar to them will work.  Make sure that you use Fluorocarbon Leader on the lures if you fish with braid. Trevallies have good sight, they'll follow the lure but become suspicious. The lure movement is also very important, don't give the fish time to react to the lures, but make them attack out of instinct instead.  DO this by utilising a retrive that mimics a paniced or scared fish.  So lots of jerks and fast retrieve.

Thanks for the interesting info 'clutch kick'. I have my reel full of flouro carbon, is that bad in any way? So you sell fishing stuff? Shop or on the internet?

did you say that you spooled totally with fluorocarbon?

Yes i spooled all of it. 100m to be honest. the brand is P LINE and it cost 17.80 euros.

[J_Z]

Rush, from the stuff that I sell, the highest catches were reported on the Mommotti 140, the Finder Jerk and the Jugulo 20g and 40g.  Yesterday however I was emailed a few pics of some catches on a topwater lure the Proteus 90.  So basically, those lures and anything similar to them will work.  Make sure that you use Fluorocarbon Leader on the lures if you fish with braid. Trevallies have good sight, they'll follow the lure but become suspicious. The lure movement is also very important, don't give the fish time to react to the lures, but make them attack out of instinct instead.  DO this by utilising a retrive that mimics a paniced or scared fish.  So lots of jerks and fast retrieve.

Thanks for the interesting info 'clutch kick'. I have my reel full of flouro carbon, is that bad in any way? So you sell fishing stuff? Shop or on the internet?

did you say that you spooled totally with fluorocarbon?

Yes i spooled all of it. 100m to be honest. the brand is P LINE and it cost 17.80 euros.

ermmm...... you did totally the wrong thing!

Mela to start with, unspool the fluoro coated you have spooled back to its original reel.

Go buy a good quality braid, see what's good for you and your pocket, spool the braid onto your reel and fix 1 metre of fluoro coated pline to the braid.

[Rush]

OK then I will do just that. but is it true that braided lines can ruin the fishing rod? I have a Shimano Alivio rod and a Shimano Nexave reel that has an aluminium spool which I understand is good for braided lines.

[J_Z]

OK then I will do just that. but is it true that braided lines can ruin the fishing rod? I have a Shimano Alivio rod and a Shimano Nexave reel that has an aluminium spool which I understand is good for braided lines.

yes, braid can go through guides.

What alivio you have?

[Rush]

OK then I will do just that. but is it true that braided lines can ruin the fishing rod? I have a Shimano Alivio rod and a Shimano Nexave reel that has an aluminium spool which I understand is good for braided lines.

yes, braid can go through guides.

What alivio you have?

I'm not sure  which numbers are used for identification so herae are all of them:
BX 300H
SALBX30H
Can I use a normal line with a fluoro carbon leader as I dont wish to ruin the guides.? SRY for the hassle but I'm still new to all of this.

[Rush]

Rush, from the stuff that I sell, the highest catches were reported on the Mommotti 140, the Finder Jerk and the Jugulo 20g and 40g.  Yesterday however I was emailed a few pics of some catches on a topwater lure the Proteus 90.  So basically, those lures and anything similar to them will work.  Make sure that you use Fluorocarbon Leader on the lures if you fish with braid. Trevallies have good sight, they'll follow the lure but become suspicious. The lure movement is also very important, don't give the fish time to react to the lures, but make them attack out of instinct instead.  DO this by utilising a retrive that mimics a paniced or scared fish.  So lots of jerks and fast retrieve.

Thanks for the interesting info 'clutch kick'. I have my reel full of flouro carbon, is that bad in any way? So you sell fishing stuff? Shop or on the internet?

that is the worst thing to do! fluoro carbon - (I may think its is fluoro coated line) is expensive and most of very stiff. It will not guarantee the excellent casts multifibre can deliver due to its lightweight and lowered friction.

ideally use a fluoro coated leader 2-3m long and its enough (you may use more but if you use a 7-8 metre long or a jointed leader, but it will impede on the maximum cast

Thanks granitu.. you are all very helpful.

[Rush]

For spinning you do not need more than a 1m long leader.

There are specific lines that are fluorocoated for spinning, but they tend to be expensive.  Best if you switch over to a braided line. No more than a 25-30lb braid for spinning, depending on your setup. The lighter the better.

As I was telling J_Z the fluoro carbon(P Line)  cost me 17.80euros. but if it's not good I will unspool it back. I'm only afraid to ruin the guides if I use a braided line.Thanks again clutch kick.

[accola]

generally modern spinning rods are good for braid rush  and the alivio u have the guides are made of sic so they are good

[clutch_kick]

I can assure you the Alivio guides are not SiC.  It would cost at least 2 - 3 times more.  Anyway it's beside's the point, it probably has a form of Aluminium Oxide guides that are good enough for braid.

In all honesty that rod is far too heavy to enjoy spinning, it is a 20-50g rod, where most of the best lures for Barracuda, trevallies, etc are in the 15 to 26g range. The problem here in Malta is that we go for heavy tackle for some reason or another, and it is the wrong approach to spinning. In my opinion the best setup for local spinning is a 10-30g, graphite rod, that is around 7 to 9 feet long, and a 4000 reel.  If you're into spinning with metal lures then maybe you might opt for a 42g casting weight rod, like the popular american 8'6" salmon rods.

15lb braid on the 10 to 30g rod, and 25lb braid on the 14 to 42g rods.

[Rush]

Personaly I found the alivio very comfortable for spinning. Could be maybe because first time I had a go at spinning was with an cw100g with a flexible tip and that one really tired me out, but now I feel much better with the alivio. So the alivio is safe for braided lines?

[J_Z]

Personaly I found the alivio very comfortable for spinning. Could be maybe because first time I had a go at spinning was with an cw100g with a flexible tip and that one really tired me out, but now I feel much better with the alivio. So the alivio is safe for braided lines?

I personally wouldn't hesitate to go for braid. The alivio is man enough to handle it.

What series is the Nexave you have?

Now go get some braid. Maybe check the specs on the fluoro coated line you have so that you can correctly match the braid and the fluoro coated.

I would go for a 30lbs braid.

[Granitu]

For spinning you do not need more than a 1m long leader.

There are specific lines that are fluorocoated for spinning, but they tend to be expensive.  Best if you switch over to a braided line. No more than a 25-30lb braid for spinning, depending on your setup. The lighter the better.

As I was telling J_Z the fluoro carbon(P Line)  cost me 17.80euros. but if it's not good I will unspool it back. I'm only afraid to ruin the guides if I use a braided line.Thanks again clutch kick.

use it as a leader material. P line have a good range of fluoro carbon but at that price i am assuming you bought a fluoro coated line which is good. I use their lines really good linrs but a little too stiff

[Kenken]

i just bought seguar Soft 100% Flourcarbon .31...cost me 14 Euro. anyone uses this type of line?

[J_Z]

For spinning you do not need more than a 1m long leader.

There are specific lines that are fluorocoated for spinning, but they tend to be expensive.  Best if you switch over to a braided line. No more than a 25-30lb braid for spinning, depending on your setup. The lighter the better.

As I was telling J_Z the fluoro carbon(P Line)  cost me 17.80euros. but if it's not good I will unspool it back. I'm only afraid to ruin the guides if I use a braided line.Thanks again clutch kick.

use it as a leader material. P line have a good range of fluoro carbon but at that price i am assuming you bought a fluoro coated line which is good. I use their lines really good linrs but a little too stiff

I agree.

I also use P-Line fluoro coated and is very good. But I mainly use it for bottom fishing especially for Awrat.

Haven't used it for spinning though. But the .22 fluoro coated P-Line was man enough to handle 2kgs + awrat regularly.