Confused between Petecraft 16 or Buccaneer 150

[Granitu]

Amen to that Max AMEN.........

@granitu...when you have a wider beam boat, it means more friction, when the boat is heavier it sits more in water so in both cases you need more power to move the boat, so more consumption of fuel. I think I indicated this in an above post in this thread.
Its a matter of what you want in a boat thats why a boat is subjective to ones needs. If you want to go to blue lagoon and spend a day on the boat, its better to have a wide beam, heavy boat so it wont roll about so much, apart from having a bit of more space. If you need to get to blue lagoon FAST then a narrow beam and a lighter boat will be the ideal. Its according to ones needs. If I want to troll with live bait a heavy, wide beam boat is better so it can go down to slower speeds like .75Knots, fishing for alungi well anarrow lighter boat will get me to 8 knots with less fuel consumption. So please GUYS we all know there isnt a boat that can satisfy every need in the world (especially a smaller 16').
Every boat is the best in the world for its owner, the important thing is for the owner to make his choice wisely before committing himself. know what you want and try to match the boat for your specific needs. Good luck to all new buyers.

I do know that shanook. But one needs to compromise as we do not use a boat for trolling for alungi only or go to blue lagoon. Indeed, this is a personal opinion and I do agree that the kaptan sways are very strong boats and handle rough seas easily... and in my opinion better than petecrafts.

Having said this, I still believe that in today's and future boating fuel consumption is a determining factor to consider when buying a boat as fuel costs just keep rising every year. Im sure that it is still a great boat though!

[The_Gaffer]

If I could, it would have been a Grady White, but i couldn't.  So i settled for a Petecraft.
Shanook: just for english and the meaning of second to none.  The phrase is derived from a old shakespear times. Second to none means exactly that, that it is second to no one, nobody, nothing...so, it is 1st.  You can only have one 1st.  Check all the online dictionaries, they all provide the same explaination.
http://t.answers.com/answers/#!/entry/what-is-the-meaning-of-second-to-none,4ff3262a7af68a84dce35445/1

However, you are entitled to your opinion...for all its worth

[baghira]

... quicksilver activ 470 cruiser ... small cabin ... nice sized deck ... live well

Are you serious Silv   And of all the people you like a Quicksilver when you have one hell of a dinghy.

It does not need a large outboard to push...

Maybe it's built of toilet paper that's why it's so light. No wonder prices are so low compared to local manufactured ones!!!

Yes malvizz.. i went to have a look at them and they really look nice (the model I mentioned for my particular needs).... But I did not go to local manufacturers to see if they manufacture a similair boat...

But are you talking form personal experience as regards these boats or what?? cause I would like to know how they behave at sea.....

as regards the price, I do not know why you are imagining such a low price, cause they are not I believe compared to locals........

And how can you say made of toilet paper? Isn't it an american boat?

[shanook]

Whatever

[Granitu]

... quicksilver activ 470 cruiser ... small cabin ... nice sized deck ... live well

Are you serious Silv   And of all the people you like a Quicksilver when you have one hell of a dinghy.

It does not need a large outboard to push...

Maybe it's built of toilet paper that's why it's so light. No wonder prices are so low compared to local manufactured ones!!!

Yes malvizz.. i went to have a look at them and they really look nice (the model I mentioned for my particular needs).... But I did not go to local manufacturers to see if they manufacture a similair boat...

But and you talking form personal experience as regards these boats or what?? cause I would like to know how they behave at sea.....

as regards the price, I do not know why you are imagining such a low price, cause they are not I believe compared to locals........

And how can you say made of toilet paper? Isn't it an american boat?

Quicksilver are an american product and yes, they do have a thinner fibreglass, as americans do not use the conventional fibreglass process but add woven roving fibreglass. this fibreglass manages to achieve the same strenght at thinner diameters and lighter material.

There are also obvious cost advantages as the amount of resin used is lower.

[shanook]

Emm Granitu.....what do we use a boat for......I thought it was for pleasure or sports fishing.......is there any other use for a boat? I gave examples of both sports fishing and leisure what did I miss out??

[Granitu]

Emm Granitu.....what do we use a boat for......I thought it was for pleasure or sports fishing.......is there any other use for a boat? I gave examples of both sports fishing and leisure what did I miss out??

Yes got your point and I agree. What I meant is that we need all rounder boats but you cannot have everything.

[malvizzu]

Thank you Granitu for your explanation.

@Baghira - have you never searched the internet for the boat packages provided on these boats? A Quicksilver Active 430 powered by a 25HP  or the Active 470 powered by a 50HP 

I have tested a Petecraft 16 Open powered by a 50HP. The engine certainly moves the boat, even with a 6HP but at what cost? At least you need a 70 or 75HP to have fuel economy. So to have smaller engines on bigger boats something have to give way. And that's certainly in the fiber manufacture.

[shanook]

However, you are entitled to your opinion...for all its worth

I am assuming you dont know the implication of what you wrote..........at least I am hoping that you dont?

[baghira]

Malvizz....
Quicksilver 470 cruiser + trailer = 10999
How does the same size (16 foot) local breed costs? I assume less..... So where is the low price of these you mentioned...

And, how can you assume when you did not try.... I have been on some boats now :-), maybe I go fishing all year round, with mine and with many other boats who have the pleasure to invite me onboard...!!!!!!.. so I can say something.... I have also been in rough seas believe me.... But I have never tried the quicksilver, and before I try it, I cannot comment.....

As granitu pointed out, same strength, different production technique = less weight (better economy) and less stable (assuming only) which is a drawback, and this is what I want answered......

[baghira]

And by the way, I am not promoting any seller, since that I have my doubts after hearing various feedbacks.... we just happened to mention the quicksilver since that i liked the aesthetics, and it fits my needs.

I lately just popped by my 1st time at petecraft, and they were very helpful. I saw Gaffers boat (16 foot), which had a wonderful Stryker T-Top.... amazing...... but then the interior design, and spacing was not according to my needs.. The t top left few space around, and the live well is in the front, Rear storage space is limited due to the amount of wiring, boat was a bit on the narrow side.... Finish was divine and the attention given by the manufacturer was fantastic..and I have a friend of mine who also owns a 16 footer, which until today I have never been on, which says very good things about the hull design..

As regards the Seabrave, I do not think that they manufacture the 16 foot.. although the finish I saw last time I have been there was amazing, and the passion in boat building was evident as he showed me through the garage as he was still doing the mold.

And I have space limitations in the garage, and I want a boat that is towed on trailer easily, since that my fishing is majorly in winter....

And I was just wondering around, since that lately my diving is less and less due to health problems, and I switched heavily to fishing.... but till today I still have my fantastic rib, towed by my lovely landie....

The boat we 1st mentioned, has a small lockable cabin, which is very good for the size of the boat... and can go well with a 50hp which is good for consumption and license.... Rear space is great, and is also good for a family outing (removable table)... wide enough.... has 2 storage compartments at the back, (one easily turned to a live well), In winter driving will be sheltered from the cold due to the small cabin, and if it rains, quick shelter.... The rods will be close to the driver whilst fishing and I could reel whilst driving, and on the event of a hookup, the seat turns 360 degrees. There is no loss of space between the rear seats and the motor.

Good to hear if any local manufacturer has something on these lines...

[shanook]

If only that (xxxxxx) would let you have a seatrial grrrrrrrrrrr then your question will be answered eh Baggs.
in about 2 weeks seabrave will have the 16' out of mould.

[baghira]

Depends whom that XXXXX is??? You are leaving me perplexed :-)
Several individuals are running in my mind whom you might be referring to.....

[shanook]

hahha go to sleep little one LOL...........subajk fhalqek int lol.......

[baghira]

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