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Boat Fishing in Malta => Offshore & Coastal Boat Fishing => Topic started by: skip on March 23, 2014, 16:55:06 CET

Title: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: skip on March 23, 2014, 16:55:06 CET
Information posted by the Federation:

The Federation has just been informed by the Fisheries Department that it has accepted to allocate a Blue Fin Tuna quota of 1000Kgs as per the request of the Amateur Fishermen
representatives (The Federation and the Malta Fishing Forum).

A copy of the regulations as well as a copy of the Application Form is to be forwarded to the Federation in the next few days. A Press release by the Fisheries Department will also be issued by the Fisheries Department. As soon as the Federation has a copy of the regulations in hand, these will be put up on the Federation Website, as a part of this Forum Thread. They will also be published on the Federation Facebook Page. All those interested in applying will be able to get a copy of the application form by email from Dr. Joe Carabott Damato dr.carabott@marcompmalta.com ) or by phoning him on mobile number 7995 8522. Alternatively they can send the filled up application to the
Federation Email Address (f.gh.s.d.malta@gmail.com ). Prospective applicants residing in Gozo will be able to apply directly with the Fisheries Department.

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Il-Federazzjoni ghada kemm giet informata mid-Dipartiment tas-Sajd li it-talba tar-raprezentanti tas-Sajjieda Dilettanti (Il-Federazzjoni u il Malta Fishing Forum) ghall-qwota ta 1000 Kilo Blue Fin Tuna ghas-Sajjieda Dilettanti giet accettata.

Id-Dipartiment tas-Sajd avzana ukoll li ser jibghat kopja tar-regolamenti u kopja tal-Formola ta l-Applikazzjoni lill-Federazzjoni fil-granet li gejjin. Malli dawn ikunu f-idejna ahna intellawhon fuq il-Website f'din it-thread tal-Forums. Id-Dipartiment tas-Sajd ser johrog ukoll Press Release dwar dan fil-granet li gejjin. Min hu interessat li japplika ghall-licenzja ikun jista jaghmel dan billi jikkuntattja lill Dr. Joe Carabott Damato fuq il-mobile number 7995 8522 jew fuq l-email dr.carabott@marcompmalta.com . L-applikazzjoni mimlija tista tintbaghat lill Dr Carabott Damato fuq l-email dr.carabott@marcompmalta.com jew inkella fuq l-email tal-Federazzjoni f.gh.s.d.malta@gmail.com .

Sajjieda Dilettanti li joqoghdu Ghawdex u li jixtiequ japplikaw ghall-licenzja jistghu jaghmlu dan bill japplikaw direttament mad-Dipartiment tas-Sajd.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: skip on March 23, 2014, 17:05:42 CET
The below is for info only and was kindly passed on by SteveGB. Please wait for the Federation to clarify they wish MFF to submit directly to Fisheries or to send to the fisheries address, however I wanted to post this purely for reference at this stage.

DOI - Press Release (PR140548)

PR140548

Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn

Id-Dipartiment tas-Sajd u Akkwakultura jinforma lill-pubbliku ġenerali li se jiġu aċċettati applikazzjonijiet minn sidien ta' bastimenti rikreazzjonali, li huma interessati li jipparteċipaw fil-sajd rikreattiv għat-tonn, mis-16 ta 'Ġunju u 14 ta' Ottubru, 2014

L-applikazzjonijiet jistgħu jinġabru:

mid-Dipartiment tas-Sajd u Akkwakultura Għammieri
Ngiered Road,
Marsa MRS 3303
Attenzjoni: Sga. Lucienne Cassar

jew
mill-Uffiċċju tas-Sajd
Imġarr
Għawdex
Attenzjoni: Is-Sur Mario Tabone

L-applikazzjonijiet, flimkien mad-dokumentazzjoni meħtieġa għandha tiġi sottomessa fl-istess indirizzi, bejn il-25 Marzu u l-11 ta' April, 2014, bejn it-0800 ta' filgħodu u  nofsinhar, mit-Tnejn sal-Ġimgħa jew billi tintbagħat bl-email fuq infofisheries.msdec@gov.mt

Applikazzjonijiet li jintbagħatu tard ma jiġux ikkunsidrati.

Għal aktar informazzjoni, ikkuntattja lid-Dipartiment tas-Sajd u Akkwakultura fuq telefon 22921111 jew ibgħat email fuq infofisheries.msdec@gov.mt

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Applications for recreational fishing of bluefin tuna

The Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture, informs the general public that applications will be accepted from recreational vessel owners, who are interested to participate in the recreational bluefin tuna fishing, from the 16th June and 14th October 2014.

Applications may be collected from:

Department of Fisheries & Aquaculture
Għammieri
Ngiered Road, Marsa   MRS 3303
Attention: Ms Lucienne Cassar
or

Fisheries Office
Mgarr
Gozo
attention: Mr. Mario Tabone

Applications together with the supporting documentation shall be submitted to the same addresses between the 25th March and 11th April 2014 from 0800am to noon, Monday to Friday or via email on infofisheries.msdec@gov.mt

Late applications will not be considered.

For further information, please contact the Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture on telephone 22921111 or by sending an email to infofisheries.msdec@gov.mt
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on March 23, 2014, 20:10:23 CET
Nick, i can confirm the above.  The agreement reached with the fisheries dept states that recreational fishermen can apply for the BFT permit throught he Federation, or by contacting the fisheries directly.  It is a fact that there are some clubs in Malta that are not members of the Federation, or members of the MFF.  So, to eliminate any discrimination, it was agreed that anglers may apply directly with the fisheries dept. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on March 24, 2014, 11:17:37 CET
All, there seems to be some confusion following the Fisheries Dept press release.  The Fisheries Dept is obliged to issue a press release and process applications from recreational fishermen.
However, the Federation and MFF have agreed with the Fisheries Dept that in order to simplify and speeed up the process, the Federation Secretary Dr. Joe Carabott Damato is authorised to process applications for interested recreational fishermen applying for tha BFT permit.
This agreement was reached during discussions with between the Federation + MFF and the Fisheries Dept.
To further simplify matters, the MFF agreed that we should only keep ONE SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT that being Dr. Joe Carabott Damato.  Please follow the instructions as follows:


Fill in the requested data and sign it. Include as attachment a copy of your vessel license.

Either send through email to dr.carabott@marcompmalta.com

Or mail to Dr.Joe Carabott Damato
               47, Sacred Heart Promenade
               Birzebbuga   BBG1603

Please note that:

a) MFA and MFB are not eligible.

b) Trailer carried vessels 'home port' section on application is not applicable (N/A).

Any query use above email or mob no 79958522
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: SPITEC on March 26, 2014, 13:06:53 CET
miftuha ghall kullhadd anki S?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on March 26, 2014, 15:52:40 CET
Iva, nikkonferma li miftuha ghal dawk l-opri tal bahar irregistrati MFC, S u Valletta. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: kris on March 26, 2014, 17:16:03 CET
Guys, I have a question. The conditions on the BFT application state that "No fishing within the fish farm boundaries is permitted". Does this mean that fishing is ALLOWED outside the buoys and ropes of the fish farm please? Also, are there any application fees not listed for the application? Thanks :)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on March 26, 2014, 18:16:54 CET
Kris if it says within the fis farm boundaries then that's exactly what it means......No there are no fees, at least I didn't pay anything to apply.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on March 26, 2014, 18:59:16 CET
Well answered Shanook.  No fees are applicable.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on March 27, 2014, 08:00:06 CET
Thanks Joe sometimes I feel like buying a harpoon with a 5 prong and point at my neck, cause a fork is not big enough.........lol
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on March 27, 2014, 08:05:57 CET
yes you can fish outside the bounderies u qatt ma hallasna 1c lol
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on March 27, 2014, 08:28:05 CET
If you are fishing near to fish farms - if fishing fish outside the big yellow buoys.

Just a word of thought, i would not personally fish near to farms. There are far better places if i have to fish outside the fishfarm boundaries.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on March 27, 2014, 11:40:53 CET
You can still attract tuna if you are anchored just outside the perimeter.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Pauline Tuna on March 27, 2014, 11:58:36 CET
Re topic:  The permits says: no fishing permiting within Fishfarm Boundaries. 

My opinion is that one has to be careful on what marks he takes this point from. Some Tuna Farms have the surrounding rope, though this does not mean that you are out of the boundaries, because their might be Lateral marks few metres away that mark a rectangular area were the fish farm is positioned.  Therefore while fishing with the farms we need to be more careful about as you might think you are at the right place and infact you are not. The lateral marks are the 4/5 buoys surrounding the farm were they have flashing light during the night.  Inside this area is considered as private owned by the owner of the farm.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on March 27, 2014, 13:38:30 CET
Quote from: Pauline Tuna on March 27, 2014, 11:58:36 CET
Re topic:  The permits says: no fishing permiting within Fishfarm Boundaries. 

My opinion is that one has to be careful on what marks he takes this point from. Some Tuna Farms have the surrounding rope, though this does not mean that you are out of the boundaries, because their might be Lateral marks few metres away that mark a rectangular area were the fish farm is positioned.  Therefore while fishing with the farms we need to be more careful about as you might think you are at the right place and infact you are not. The lateral marks are the 4/5 buoys surrounding the farm were they have flashing light during the night.  Inside this area is considered as private owned by the owner of the farm.

Yep, well said. the fish farms 6km out of m`scala have no ropes and the marks are situated very far away from the cages , more than 500m I think.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Pauline Tuna on March 27, 2014, 15:10:21 CET
Rednaell;  ...... you are correct......to recapitulate again...Fish farm boundaries is not the rope we tight our boat with or the yellow buoys surrounding the tuna pens, but these are the Lateral marks, marking the area of the owned farm. Co-ordinates of this area is given by the government and this area is being paid by the private sectors.  The 7 km Tuna farms OGH (Outside Grand Harbour), has a big area as indicated on the Navigational charts, and also on each chart plotter everyone has. The Northern farms also have quite an area, and the South bound farms also have quite an area consisting of 2 farms near each other.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on March 27, 2014, 18:57:44 CET
il permes japlika al min id dajsa itelaha u inizila ??
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on April 05, 2014, 08:58:30 CET
Bongu lil-kullhadd.

Xtaqt insaqsi wahda lil-kullhadd dwar xsistemi tuzaw ghas sajd tat-tonn.  Jekk haw min andu diagrams ta' kif inkun l-irkaptu napreza hafna.  Ovjament qied nitkellem fuq sajd ghad dilettanti u mhux dak kummercjali.  Id-drifting per ezempju huwa sistema li tinteresani hafna pero ftit andi informazjoni dwarha.

Ejja, din andha tkun diskusjoni interessanti ghal hafna nies!

Grazzi bil-qudiem

Icom
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Charles837 on April 06, 2014, 07:23:14 CET
jien wiehed li applikajt is sena l-ohra u mort xi sitt darbiet u l-anqas messa ma hadt lixka pruvajt hafna bhal lacci u kavalli il harira kinet tal 110mm normali, mux fluoro carbon. kien hemm min qabad meta mort, kien hdejja, Hemm xi hadd jistgha jaghtini ghajnuna kif ha narma din is-sena?

Grazzi
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on April 06, 2014, 09:53:32 CET
naqbel ma Icom li jekk ikun awn xi hadd jista jitfa diagram semplici ta kif jintrama larmar,kemm fuq qasba u kif ukol fuq hjut ta lidejn napprezaw ghal min hu lewwel darba. Thanks
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on April 06, 2014, 10:31:46 CET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx30PfLbx1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBQk4syX-Bc
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on April 06, 2014, 16:39:02 CET
Grazzi Salv,

Il-video kont naf bih pero l-ikbar domanda tieghi hi kif twahlet dik ic-comba.  Jekk din tintrama b'ghoqda wisq nibza li ix-xlif imur min hemm.  Haga ohra id-daqs tas-sunnara.  Min video ma tantx tista tejd x'daqs hi!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on April 06, 2014, 18:42:22 CET
Li naf is sunara juzaw circle hook li jkunu aposta at tonn. U tac comba mhix cara kif trid isir.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on April 06, 2014, 19:38:54 CET
Ha nispjega il-bicca tac-comba.  Biex ingongi l-braid mal-harira, indahhal holqa stainless steel.  Fil video posted minn Saviour, tidher sew il holqa @ 7.30min il quddiem.  Huwa ma din il-holqa li inwahhal ic-comba permezz ta snap swivel zghira li nuza. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on April 06, 2014, 22:22:39 CET
Jew inkella torbod il braid mal mono dirett u tohloq holqa minn hemm. Importanti li jekk tuza holqa SS Jew swivel importanti li jaddi mill holoq tal qasba.
Jekk trid ukoll tista tuza lastiku biex torbod ic comba mal harira.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on April 07, 2014, 11:33:00 CET
nimpressjona ruhi bli nisma ...

il kontra nahseb ridt tghid... ahjar l iswivel ma tkunx tghaddi mil-holqa
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on April 07, 2014, 14:50:33 CET
Guys lis-swivel tac-comba ha jkun kwazi fit-tarf net.  Biex idahhal lis-swivel gol-holoq trid ittela l-huta mat-tarf tal-qasba!  Jien pero nemen hafna bli norbod il-braid mal-mono dirett.  Toni Pegna knot u serah rasek.  Biex tmur dik l-ghoqda ci vuole!  L-importanti u li itieja ma hmistax il-dawra fuq u l-isfel biex ikollok iktar surface area fejn jigdem il-braid fuq il-mono!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: pedro63 on April 07, 2014, 20:56:40 CET
Guys jien applikajt ghal permess u ircivejt acknowledgement by e-mail biss xejn iktar. Din hi l-ewwel darba so il-process ma nafx kif jahdem ezatt. thanks.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: busumark on April 08, 2014, 18:16:49 CET
jiena aplikajt online mal fisheries u lanqas baghtuli acknowledgment
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: pedro63 on April 09, 2014, 20:48:54 CET
ifem jien baghat e-mail b'attachment lil Dr. Carabott u gejt copied ghaliex l-email gie forwarded lil Lucienne tal-fisheries. Ilbqija ma smajt la si' u lanqas no .
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on April 10, 2014, 13:46:22 CET
Quote from: pedro63 on April 09, 2014, 20:48:54 CET
ifem jien baghat e-mail b'attachment lil Dr. Carabott u gejt copied ghaliex l-email gie forwarded lil Lucienne tal-fisheries. Ilbqija ma smajt la si' u lanqas no .

L istess haga jin habib - nassumi l m emmx problemi.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: pedro63 on April 10, 2014, 20:13:58 CET
ok ta illum ircivejt e-mail minn ghand Dr. Carabott ghaliex talbt acknowledgment li kollox ok.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on April 22, 2014, 17:49:42 CET
igifiri jek kull wihed mina jaqbad tunag ta 2kilo{li majistax} ukoll naqbzu il kwota ta 1000kilo ahseb uwara ta 30 kilo li ek ikun emm wihed ikollu ic cans imur kull jum il kwota jaqbiza wahdu ta nejk rarjta jien di .Forsi jien biss ma nafx hu .
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on April 23, 2014, 06:12:41 CET
Quote from: savioursajdbis on April 22, 2014, 17:49:42 CET
igifiri jek kull wihed mina jaqbad tunag ta 2kilo{li majistax} ukoll naqbzu il kwota ta 1000kilo ahseb uwara ta 30 kilo li ek ikun emm wihed ikollu ic cans imur kull jum il kwota jaqbiza wahdu ta nejk rarjta jien di .Forsi jien biss ma nafx hu .

X'qieghed tara tan-nejk savioursajdbiss?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on April 23, 2014, 08:50:11 CET
Ghandna xorti tawna xi haga....... mhux dejjem ahjar mix xejn jew !!!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on April 23, 2014, 10:50:34 CET
Quote from: savioursajdbis on April 22, 2014, 17:49:42 CET
igifiri jek kull wihed mina jaqbad tunag ta 2kilo{li majistax} ukoll naqbzu il kwota ta 1000kilo ahseb uwara ta 30 kilo li ek ikun emm wihed ikollu ic cans imur kull jum il kwota jaqbiza wahdu ta nejk rarjta jien di .Forsi jien biss ma nafx hu .

S sena l ohra 500kgs damu ma ntuzaw kollha habib, dis sena ziduwa li hija ahbar tajba.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on April 23, 2014, 11:34:10 CET
I also thought initially that the 500kg would have been taken up in a few days, but last year proved me wrong and we had some fun trying to catch a tuna.  This year it's even better our quota was doubled and thus will make us spend more money on fuel and equipment since the time window will be longer.  I want to try with rod and reel this year on 80 lbs line. Next year, after evaluating result I will try with 50 lbs and more flexible rod.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on April 23, 2014, 15:28:28 CET
@ the_ gaffer li et nara ta nejk il haga li wihed jista imur kuljum u f'gimgha wahda bis jista jahli il kwota ta kulhad dik bis et turtani jien . il pqija li zidua tajjeb .
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on April 23, 2014, 15:36:48 CET
Quote from: shanook on April 23, 2014, 11:34:10 CET
I also thought initially that the 500kg would have been taken up in a few days, but last year proved me wrong and we had some fun trying to catch a tuna.  This year it's even better our quota was doubled and thus will make us spend more money on fuel and equipment since the time window will be longer.  I want to try with rod and reel this year on 80 lbs line. Next year, after evaluating result I will try with 50 lbs and more flexible rod.


The time window will not necessarily be longer... license holders have probably more than doubled
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on April 23, 2014, 17:20:45 CET
Quote from: savioursajdbis on April 23, 2014, 15:28:28 CET
@ the_ gaffer li et nara ta nejk il haga li wihed jista imur kuljum u f'gimgha wahda bis jista jahli il kwota ta kulhad dik bis et turtani jien . il pqija li zidua tajjeb .

Mhux minn dejjem kienet hekk. Issa qed taraha tan-nejk.  Miniex nifhem ta!
Is-sistema tal-kwota hekk tahdem.  Issa minn jista jmur kuljum, immur kuljum, u minn jista jmur darba fil-gimgha immur darba fil-gimgha.  Is-sena l-ohra kienet ta 500kg, dis-sena irduppjat, iggifieri 1000kg. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on April 23, 2014, 17:25:36 CET
Quote from: bigboy on April 23, 2014, 08:50:11 CET
Ghandna xorti tawna xi haga....... mhux dejjem ahjar mix xejn jew !!!
Sewwa qed tghid Bigboy.  Anha id-dilettanti m'ghandiex dritt assollut ghal kwota.  Hija propja minhabba ir-relazzjonijiet ecclenti li jezistu specjalment bejn ir-rapprezzentanti tas-sajjieda dilettanti (Federation u MFF) u l-awtoritajiet u iz-zewg kooperativi li wasalna ghal agreement dis-sena bhas-snin ta qabel.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on April 23, 2014, 19:46:24 CET
jien lewel darba li et naplika kif kinet qbel ma nafx mla kinet ta nejk u ha tipqa ta nejk.
u naf li il kwota kinet 500 kg u isa gid 1t emek tjibet u prosit al mijn hadem ima fejn ma naqbilx nahseb andi drid najt mux ek. Imisa isir li jek int qbat huta ma tkunx tista terga tmur qbel tigi irapurtata qabda ohra hali bek kulhad ikolu cans . da dejem kif nahsiba jien u mux vangelu u naf li jista ikun aw mijn ma jaqbilx mijaj .
u forsi et najd ic cucati ukoll.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on April 23, 2014, 20:18:44 CET
Veru nirringrazzjaw lill bambin li missna sufa minn baqra... u din is sena missna zewg sufiet....
Pero ma missniex nifirhu zejjed tafux... Wara kollox min wara il prutieri kulhadd jiddiehak qied...
U tghid ma hemmx ghalfejn nghid jien kemm kienet il kwota, u ghalix damet ma nqabdet. U kemm ser iddum din id-darba!
U jekk ghadux ikollna dritt ghal kwota sura, u ikkontrollata aktar facli..
Mela kulhadd bhal kelb imdawwar ma fishfarm, biex biex forsi jmissek wiehed qabel tinghalaq.....

etc etc
U mhux qed nitkellem la blu, la ahmar, u lanqas isfar....

U l-Kugin jaqbad bag limit/ kull persuna/ kull darba li johrog.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on April 24, 2014, 08:10:22 CET
kem kien em aplikazjonijiet is sena lohra?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on April 24, 2014, 11:46:54 CET
Quote from: savioursajdbis on April 23, 2014, 19:46:24 CET
jien lewel darba li et naplika kif kinet qbel ma nafx mla kinet ta nejk u ha tipqa ta nejk.
u naf li il kwota kinet 500 kg u isa gid 1t emek tjibet u prosit al mijn hadem ima fejn ma naqbilx nahseb andi drid najt mux ek. Imisa isir li jek int qbat huta ma tkunx tista terga tmur qbel tigi irapurtata qabda ohra hali bek kulhad ikolu cans . da dejem kif nahsiba jien u mux vangelu u naf li jista ikun aw mijn ma jaqbilx mijaj .
u forsi et najd ic cucati ukoll.


Mhux ideja hazina kieku, ax hem min jista jistad kuljum u em min jek jkollu cans jmur darba f`xahar. Kif qeda qisu hemm ghaxar tfajliet u ghalijhom hemm hames mitt ragel ser jipruvaw jabbuhom  :o lol.  Jiena kieku namila, li wiehed wahda biss jkollu ic cans li jdahhal fi stagun, bhek thalli ic-cans lil haddiehor jiehu pjacir jistad wkoll.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on April 24, 2014, 12:18:57 CET
voldieri jekk xi hadd jinzerta fortunat u jaqbad wahda ma lewwel darba li jmur, daqsekk, ma jmurx aktar... biex joqod jistenna lil dak li jmur darba fix xhar jistad... biex umbad dan tal-ahhar probabli jispicca ma jmur qatt.

Is-snin ta qabel kif qeghda dis-sena kienet u hadmet tajjeb ferm.  Nahseb kieku applikajt is-sena l-ohra kont titkellem mod iehor.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on April 24, 2014, 12:44:44 CET
Quote from: ganni on April 24, 2014, 12:18:57 CET
voldieri jekk xi hadd jinzerta fortunat u jaqbad wahda ma lewwel darba li jmur, daqsekk, ma jmurx aktar... biex joqod jistenna lil dak li jmur darba fix xhar jistad... biex umbad dan tal-ahhar probabli jispicca ma jmur qatt.

Is-snin ta qabel kif qeghda dis-sena kienet u hadmet tajjeb ferm.  Nahseb kieku applikajt is-sena l-ohra kont titkellem mod iehor.
Jew tnejn biex ma nqaziziex ;)
Jekk ma jmurx jistad affari tijaw diment li il quota tintlahaq, xortajista jmissu xihaga hadiehor.
Jekk il quota tintalahaq lejn lahhar ta listagun bhas sena lohara no problem imma jista ma jkunx il kas dejem.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on April 24, 2014, 16:58:20 CET
li ma imurx iktar ma naqbilx ima li jati cans naqbel isa din tista isir bili min ikolu liformazjoni tal qbdid  juzom alijna ukol`. igifiri lahar wihed li jiraporta il qabda tijaw ma ikux jista jerga imur qabel ma terga isir roport ta qbda ohra .U bekk ikun emm iktar cans li ikun jista igawdi kulhad .
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on April 29, 2014, 08:56:18 CET
Fejn nista nsib ir regolamenti ezatti kif qedin? u hem xi tibdil fir regolamenti mis sena l`ohra l`awn?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: fisheye on April 29, 2014, 09:21:36 CET
MINISTERU GALL-IVILUPP SOSTENIBBLI,
L-AMBJENT U TIBDIL FIL-KLIMA
SEGRETARJAT PARLAMENTARI
GALL-BIEDJA, SAJD
U DRITTIJIET TAL-ANNIMALI
MALTA
MINISTRY FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT,
THE ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE CHANGE
PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARIAT
FOR AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES
AND ANIMAL RIGHTS
Dipartiment tas-Sajd u Akkwakultura Department of Fisheries & Aquaculture
Gammieri, Ngiered Road, Marsa MRS 3303
Tel: +356 2292 1111 Freephone: 80072240 Fax: +356 2292 1221
Email: infofisheries.msdec@gov.mt
27 March 2014
Procedures to be implemented by the Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture during the 2014
recreational bluefin tuna campaign
1. All recreational vessels which have applied for a BFT recreational fishing authorisation will be
authorised to fish for BFT.
2. The authorisation must be kept on board for the entire season or until the fishery is closed.
3. The fishing season is from the 16th June to the 14th October, 2014 or until the allocated quota is
exhausted.
4. The global allocated quota for recreational fishing vessels is being set at 1,000kg.
5. All authorised recreational fishing vessels have to notify the Department of Fisheries and
Aquaculture (DFA) before leaving the port and before returning to port at least 2 hours before
arriving. The pre-notification can be made by sending an sms on 99674933 or by calling the DFAs
free-phone on 80072240.
6. Once the quota has been consumed the DFA will close this fishery and the authorised recreational
fishing vessels will not be required to continue notifying the DFA prior to departure and before
arriving.
7. Once the fishing season is closed no BFT can be fished for, caught or landed. All incidental catches
of bluefin tuna must be released.
8. Only those vessels that actually catch BFT are required to land their catch in one of the designated
ports. The authorised recreational fisher may choose the most convenient designated port. These
include: Marfa, Valletta, Marsaxlokk and Gozo.
9. Landings must take place in the presence of an officer from the DFA.
10. The minimum size for BFT is 30 kg or with a fork length of 115cm.
11. In cases of fish caught below the minimum size, the fisher must take the necessary measures to
ensure, to the greatest extent possible, the release of bluefin tuna caught alive. In cases of dead
fish the DFA must be informed immediately and the catch has to be landed in one of the designated
ports. Such fish shall also be deducted from the allocated quota.
12. Recreational and sports fishers can only land one fish per day during the season. Any other fish
shall be confiscated and shall also be deducted from the allocated quota.
13. The fishing line used by the authorised vessels cannot be thicker than 160mm during the season.
The DFA will carry out inspections of the line at landings and during routine inspections at sea to
ensure the fishing gear is in line with this provision.
14. It is prohibited to carry out fishing activities within the fish farm parameters. Action shall be taken
against all vessels fishing within the designated zone and any fish on board will be confiscated and
deducted from the allocated quota.
The DFA and the Armed Forces of Malta (AFM) shall carry out daily inspections at sea and in ports to ensure
conformity.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on April 29, 2014, 14:51:37 CET
thanks fisheye.
ma jissema xejn rigward snanar. Dak bilfors circle jew jistaw jintuza J normali ?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on April 29, 2014, 15:00:08 CET
Quote from: rednaell on April 29, 2014, 14:51:37 CET
thanks fisheye.
ma jissema xejn rigward snanar. Dak bilfors circle jew jistaw jintuza J normali ?

Tista tuza snanar li trid, circle, semi circle, claw, li trid.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: fisheye on April 29, 2014, 15:01:32 CET
Sa fejn naf jien ma hemm ebda restrizjoni fuq snanar. Jien dawk huma ir-regolamenti li rcevejt. Nahseb li kieku kien hemm xi restrizzjoni ohra kienu inizluwa ma dawn ir-regoli. Fuq bazi ta preferenza ic-circle hooks nipreferihom specjalment fejn jidhol catch and release.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on April 29, 2014, 15:13:37 CET
14. "It is prohibited to carry out fishing activities within the fish farm parameters." what are the distances of the  parameters?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence
Post by: rednaell on April 29, 2014, 15:36:07 CET
jek tkun inqas min 115cm tkun tista tehlisa jek tuza circle. Jek ma ma tuzax circle hook u tibla ma nahsibx li tajx jek tehlisa! fdak il kas tilandjaha u jehduielek?


Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on April 29, 2014, 17:30:45 CET
Quote from: rednaell on April 29, 2014, 15:36:07 CET
jek tkun inqas min 115cm tkun tista tehlisa jek tuza circle. Jek ma ma tuzax circle hook u tibla ma nahsibx li tajx jek tehlisa! fdak il kas tilandjaha u jehduielek?
Jekk tillandja tonn inqas minn 115cm mhux biss jehduielek, imma tehel multa.  Oqod attent, aqra sew ir-regolamenti.  Ma tistax taqbad tonn izvhar minn 115cm jew inqas minn 30kg. 



Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on April 30, 2014, 06:57:58 CET
Joe, point 11 states that if a fish smaller in size and weight is caught dead, the it can be landed.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on April 30, 2014, 07:35:56 CET
11. In cases of fish caught below the minimum size, the fisher must take the necessary measures to
ensure, to the greatest extent possible, the release of bluefin tuna caught alive. In cases of dead
fish the DFA must be informed immediately and the catch has to be landed in one of the designated
ports. Such fish shall also be deducted from the allocated quota.

Le Joe fil kas li huta tmut u tkun izar min 115 ma jejdx li tehel multa, imma mhux spjegat car.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on April 30, 2014, 07:41:54 CET
Quote from: The_Gaffer on April 29, 2014, 17:30:45 CET
Quote from: rednaell on April 29, 2014, 15:36:07 CET
jek tkun inqas min 115cm tkun tista tehlisa jek tuza circle. Jek ma ma tuzax circle hook u tibla ma nahsibx li tajx jek tehlisa! fdak il kas tilandjaha u jehduielek?
Jekk tillandja tonn inqas minn 115cm mhux biss jehduielek, imma tehel multa.  Oqod attent, aqra sew ir-regolamenti.  Ma tistax taqbad tonn izvhar minn 115cm jew inqas minn 30kg. 




Joe Fehma li tonn izghar taqbdu u jinqatel... ekk illegali - u jekk ikollok accident mohhok emm jin kiku nihu video nipprova nitlaqa halli jkolli x nuri x gara.

Il kaz li tonna malli taqbada tmut huwa remot hbib..... jekk meta taqbada ma tkiddix titlaq u tghix serrah rasek... issa jekk malli tara ttija l ganc mod iehor dak li jkun irid ikun responsabbli ta dak li jaghmel.

Jekk sunnara ma tkunx tista tinqala u wiehed ikun ha jitlaqa, kunu certi li qed tuzaw degredable hooks u line. Almenu taqta u fi zmien gimgha s sunnara tiddisolvi ruha u l huta tibqa hajja.

Snanar ta ditet kbar llum kollha maghmulin hekk u huma regolati li jsiru ekk. Tuzawx snanar tal knuz tal pixxispad ghax dawn m mhumiex degradable u hafna drabi difficli bix jinqalu ghax maghmulin bix huta ma tinqalax - maghmulin bix izommu l hut mwahhal fit tul. Circle hooks huma l ahjar snanar li tistaw tuzaw u nahseb l iktar snanar produttivi
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on April 30, 2014, 10:56:40 CET
@rednaell

Voldieri ghal punt 11 haddem rasek u thalli lebda huta zghira tmutlek qabel titlaqa biex ghal anqas in-naqra kwotal li ghandna tintuza b'mod ghaqli.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on April 30, 2014, 18:08:58 CET
Hbieb andi qazba 30/60 Global fishing  Length 1.65m ada kwazi gdida uzajta ftit jek aw xi had interesat jbat p m
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: markus on May 01, 2014, 15:28:57 CET
ircivejtu xi haga intom hbieb ?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 01, 2014, 18:42:41 CET
Xhin ikun il-waqt, navzakhom  Kull minn appplika, ser jircievi permess. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 04, 2014, 15:27:50 CET
Nahseb trid permess...........min ghand il Mara?!!!?!!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on May 04, 2014, 17:45:04 CET
Quote from: caldaland on May 02, 2014, 17:55:55 CET
Tista tiftah landa tonn taz-zejt fuq il-bahar jekk ma jkollokx permess tat-tonn? Ara qieghed niccajta l-ahwa!

Cert li tonn imma? lol
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on May 05, 2014, 09:36:28 CET
tista tixxi albacore flok ton taz zejt u  ma jkollokx bzon permess  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 05, 2014, 11:48:27 CET
Hej tista taghmel inti bl alunga. U jigi tajjeb, ahjar minn tal bott.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on May 05, 2014, 12:02:46 CET
Issa bis serjeta. Dak kif jsir it tonn taz zejt DIY ?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on May 05, 2014, 13:39:52 CET
3 years ilni nghamlu.... Min dak inhar qatt ma xtrajt bott tonn taz zejt iehor... :-)

Ricetta easy... fittex online
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 05, 2014, 13:50:13 CET
2 inch cuts of Alungi, boil for 2 hrs, refrigerate overnight, place in tight seal bottles, pressure cooker for about 1.5hrs eat after 4 months mmmmmmmmmmm goooooooooddddddddddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on May 05, 2014, 14:36:54 CET
Thanks Shanook.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on May 05, 2014, 17:04:34 CET
Ha nidevja naqra mis-sugett tat-tonn taz-zejt.  Nixtieq insaqsi kif issier u kif tigi operata l-gaffing ta' huta bl-uzu ta' habel biex jekk fkass li tkun taht id-daqs stipulat bil-ligi din tkun tista tigi mehlusa bla bizza li tmut.  Jekk haw xi hadd li andu xi video ta kif issier nappreza.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 05, 2014, 17:30:25 CET
hawn ingassi apposta (ma nahsibx li issib hawn Malta. tkun qisa ingassa ma lasta. igifiri flok ikollok lasta b ganc it tarf taghha itkun ingassa. taddija mid denb ta tonna u izzomma bija.
jekk insib ritratt nippostjah. pero mhix easy meta ikollok tonna maqbuda fuq lidejn ghax tkun ghada fuq taghha u jaf tweggek. pero malli tohrogila denba barra mill ilma heqq ma tista taghmel xejn hux.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 05, 2014, 17:35:11 CET
have a look at these
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on May 05, 2014, 18:52:48 CET
for alungi in oil.... put some fresh herbs as well in the oil for the taste....
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 05, 2014, 19:36:37 CET
you place the tuna raw or cooked Baggs
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on May 06, 2014, 07:40:33 CET
I tried both options..
Both worked fine...
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on May 06, 2014, 07:41:03 CET
for me rosemary tasted best...
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on May 06, 2014, 13:36:54 CET
Quote from: shanook on May 05, 2014, 17:35:11 CET
have a look at these

U ghala xi haga hekk tixtruwa jekk ma jimpurtax nsaqsi? not that difficult to DIY.

Personalment jin habel nsibu iktar komdu milli lasta, imma opinjoni dejjem.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 06, 2014, 14:06:27 CET
Iva granitu, Jien habel nuzgha, imma jekk wiehed jistaqsi, trid tirrispondi ghal dak li jrid. Din easy aktar biex idahhala fid Deneb tal huta, milli habel.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on May 06, 2014, 16:59:54 CET
Guys thanks ta l-info...kif jithadem il-habel interesat ukoll.  Wara kollox naf li hafna hekk jaghmlu.  Meta taghmel l-ingassa, din idahluwa f-idejkhom u imbad taqbad id-denb u tnizel il-loop?  Dik li ma nistax nifhem jien!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 06, 2014, 17:20:10 CET
Quote from: Icom on May 06, 2014, 16:59:54 CET
Guys thanks ta l-info...kif jithadem il-habel interesat ukoll.  Wara kollox naf li hafna hekk jaghmlu.  Meta taghmel l-ingassa, din idahluwa f-idejkhom u imbad taqbad id-denb u tnizel il-loop?  Dik li ma nistax nifhem jien!

Anzi, tiprovax hekk ta, ghax twegga tista.  Ipprova libbes l-ingassa f'denb it-tonn.  Jekk tuza l-ganc biex jghinek tgholli id-denb il-fuq mill-ilma, ahjar.  Bhal ma jghidu ta Wicked Tuna, It-tonn mhux tieghek qabel ma jkollu habel ma denbu!
Tails Up habib!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on May 06, 2014, 19:18:50 CET
Issa qed nifhem.  Mela mnalla ftaht halqi...kemm u tajjeb isaqsi!

Cheers Joe!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 07, 2014, 04:32:01 CET
Quote from: baghira on May 06, 2014, 07:41:03 CET
for me rosemary tasted best...

Ara taqbadx il Mara Silv tirrangak......
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Pauline Tuna on May 08, 2014, 12:43:24 CET
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20140501/thezone-news-from-campus/fish4tomorrow.517155

XIL KAZZOLA QED JAHSBU LI SER JGHAMLU DAWN......BIL MOD IL MOD SER IKKISRUNA KIF GARA LIL SHABNA IL KACCATURI - WAIT AND SEE...
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Clayton on May 08, 2014, 15:21:45 CET
caldaland kollox bil-mod u bi ftit kliem fin jibda u wara ftit snin tispica b' malta kontrik u referendum ma wiccek u l-hobby tieghek ma tkunx tista tipratikah iktar.
Xi sena u nofs ilhu kien hemm artiklu fuq gazzetta li ha jadu xi ligijiet fuq l electric reels imma mal qalba tal gvern intesa kollox.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 08, 2014, 21:08:58 CET
Max, u l-qbija tal-membri hawn.  Huwa veru li hemm regolamenti fil-pipeline ghas-sajjieda dilettanti.  Pero huwa verissimu li tibdil ftit li xejn hemm.  Hemm iktar klarifika fuq regolamenti, defenizzjoni iktar cara ta regolamenti li kienu ga jezistu, imma mhux infurzati.  imma nista nassigurakhom li m'hemm xejn ta barra minn hawn.  Ir-regolamenti l-godda jkopru is-sajd minn fuq opri tal-bahar.  Ma hemm xejn rigward sajd bil qasba minn fuq l-art.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on May 09, 2014, 07:16:09 CET
Quote from: The_Gaffer on May 08, 2014, 21:08:58 CET
Max, u l-qbija tal-membri hawn.  Huwa veru li hemm regolamenti fil-pipeline ghas-sajjieda dilettanti.  Pero huwa verissimu li tibdil ftit li xejn hemm.  Hemm iktar klarifika fuq regolamenti, defenizzjoni iktar cara ta regolamenti li kienu ga jezistu, imma mhux infurzati.  imma nista nassigurakhom li m'hemm xejn ta barra minn hawn.  Ir-regolamenti l-godda jkopru is-sajd minn fuq opri tal-bahar.  Ma hemm xejn rigward sajd bil qasba minn fuq l-art.


Gaffer, jin nemmen li trid ssir xi haga drastika. Il bahar ta darek tiftakru int. Kollox jeqred, sajd bla razan dak igib. Pero n natura jekk ttija cans tirpilja maz zmien terga. U hekk irid isir hbieb. Kulhadd irid jigbed habel wiehed mux kulhadd iwahhal f xulxin.

S sajjied Tal parit irid jiekol, imma irid jifhem f mohhu li s sajd bla razan u bla sens (bhal parit f 6 metri ilma) hsara jaghmel. L huta ma' l art ibejjet.

Certu sajjieda dilettanti iridu jifmu li dilettanti, u jekk llum qabad 4 hutiet, billi r regoli galuh jitlaq wahda ma jigri xejn.

Araw regoli tas sajd l amerika. Stretti u spiss ikunu jistaw izommu huta wahda ta certu daqs. Pero l bahar huwa rikk u huta wahda tigborom. Kwazi dejjem imorru d dar b huta.

Huta wahda thalli hafna bajd fil bahar. L bahar jirpilja iktar malajr milli nahsbu ghax meta ma jsibx kacca sfrenata, s success rate ta hut li jikber toghla.

Llum l bahar mbarazz hdejk ta darek... Pero ghadna fic cans li xi haga ssir.

Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Pauline Tuna on May 09, 2014, 07:32:22 CET
Granitu.....il huta zghira qatt ma kielet il huta l-kbira.....l-ekosistema titmexxa min natura ta madwarna, li tibda miz zghir i tispicca mil kbir u vici versa. 
Li qed nghid huwa li vera il parit jghamel il hsara, pero xinhu l-ovju li qed naraw madwarna, li sa 8 snin ilu (fejn kien hawn sajd bla razan ghat Tonn fil Mediterran) ma konniex naqbdu Tonn bir rixa, u min 3 snin ilu lil hawn, kwazi dejjem immisek xi wiehed fuq ir rix, fi zmienu.

Dan huwa rizultat ta kontrol fuq is sajjieda il kbar li jistadu bis sahha ta lindustrija ghal uzu ta industrija.

Fi kliem iehor mhux ahna id diletanti li nghamlu il hsara (ovja li xi tip ta hsara issir dejjem), voldieri nkunu kawti xi nghidu ghax il piz jigi fuqna id diletanti. Huma l-industrijalisti fdan in negozzju bil mod ta Sajd taghom li ghamlu hsara fil bahar, bi kwoti miftuhin fi zmien li ghaddew.

Granitu - uzgur li niftakar fil bahar ta dari - inqas dajjes, ghanqas irkabti, ghanqas vapuri...pero diletanti dejjem kienu, sajjieda lokali dejjem kienu.....

NOQODU ATTENTI XI NWADBU FUQ SAQAJNA - MA NHALTUX IL KBIR MAZ ZGHIR - TInsewx il ligi dejjem fuq iz zghir tigi...u il kbir jibqa sostnut bil miljuni dehlin gol but, jghamel triq min fuqna iz zghar u id diletanti.

Jien ga ghedta ftit xhur ilu u ma naqbilx mal fatt ma dak kollu li qed jghidu Fish 4 Tomorrow...dan ghaliex BIS SUNNARA MA TGHAMILX HSARA, IZDA L-INDUSTRIJA LI TGHAMEL.....
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Pauline Tuna on May 09, 2014, 07:34:35 CET
'''''Huta wahda thalli hafna bajd fil bahar. L bahar jirpilja iktar malajr milli nahsbu ghax meta ma jsibx kacca sfrenata, s success rate ta hut li jikber toghla.

Llum l bahar mbarazz hdejk ta darek... Pero ghadna fic cans li xi haga ssir''''''

Fuq dil il quote ta ghawn fuq.....xjista ikolna ligijiet aktar milli ghanna bhal issa - ez - il bahar mimli Tonn u ahna diletanti marbutin bi grammi ta quota fuq kull ras (nirringrazzjaw li ghanna dan)......xjista issir aktar milli ghanna......
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on May 09, 2014, 07:43:42 CET
Quote from: Pauline Tuna on May 09, 2014, 07:34:35 CET
'''''Huta wahda thalli hafna bajd fil bahar. L bahar jirpilja iktar malajr milli nahsbu ghax meta ma jsibx kacca sfrenata, s success rate ta hut li jikber toghla.

Llum l bahar mbarazz hdejk ta darek... Pero ghadna fic cans li xi haga ssir''''''

Fuq dil il quote ta ghawn fuq.....xjista ikolna ligijiet aktar milli ghanna bhal issa - ez - il bahar mimli Tonn u ahna diletanti marbutin bi grammi ta quota fuq kull ras (nirringrazzjaw li ghanna dan)......xjista issir aktar milli ghanna......

Halli T tonn barra - ghax qed isir hafna u zzejjed fuq l konservazzjoni tat tonn minn naha tad dilettant biex igawdu tal fish farms - Rigward tonn iridu jaraw s sajjieda professjonali u tal fish farms x inhuma jaghmlu - specjalment ta l ahhar.

Pero hares lejn hut ohra tal qih, u wisq nibza li dan minsi. Jin sajjied dilettant bhalek Pauline Tuna, imma stadt f ibhra barranini u gew fis sitwazzjoni taghna, ghamlu xi haga, u llum ghandom industrija shiha marbuta ma sajd turizmu. Qed jghaddu ligijiet biex jagevolaw d dilettant u sport fishing u jaqtaw s sajd professjonali. Ssemilomx fish farming, ghax l bahar b sahhtu bizzejjed bix jitma n nies u mhux commercially viable.

Nemmen li malta emm trid tasal ukoll, l bahar hu l ikbar rizorz li ghanda Malta.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Pauline Tuna on May 09, 2014, 08:01:21 CET
Kif etlek diga, Tal Fish Farms huma kontrollati seww fdawn lahhar 4 snin....ma tantx jghamlu li jridu....apparti li qed ihadmu balla nies Maltin (u barranin), kif ukoll ihallu qliegh enormi fl-ekonomija Maltija.....Il hut li jinqabad bis sahha ta l-industrija mhux qed jghamel hsara (ghax kontrollat) (sa certu punt), anzi qed iressaq hut iehor lejn il kosta tghana, fejn kif taf inti qed ingawdu minnu ahna id diletant. Kemm hut tal wicc u kemm hut tal qiegh, bhal Tonn, Kubrit, Plamti, Pexxi san Pietro, Dnieci, Klamari etc etc...

Li qed nara jien huwa ir restrizzjonijiet fuqna id diletanti.....ta min noqghodu attenti xi nghidu ax il ligi dejjem fuq iz zghir taqha.....
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on May 09, 2014, 08:34:35 CET
Quote from: Pauline Tuna on May 09, 2014, 08:01:21 CET
Kif etlek diga, Tal Fish Farms huma kontrollati seww fdawn lahhar 4 snin....ma tantx jghamlu li jridu....apparti li qed ihadmu balla nies Maltin (u barranin), kif ukoll ihallu qliegh enormi fl-ekonomija Maltija.....Il hut li jinqabad bis sahha ta l-industrija mhux qed jghamel hsara (ghax kontrollat) (sa certu punt), anzi qed iressaq hut iehor lejn il kosta tghana, fejn kif taf inti qed ingawdu minnu ahna id diletant. Kemm hut tal wicc u kemm hut tal qiegh, bhal Tonn, Kubrit, Plamti, Pexxi san Pietro, Dnieci, Klamari etc etc...

Li qed nara jien huwa ir restrizzjonijiet fuqna id diletanti.....ta min noqghodu attenti xi nghidu ax il ligi dejjem fuq iz zghir taqha.....

Bir rispett kollhu, l farms veru li resqu t tonn vicin l art, imma l qih inqred.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 09, 2014, 09:11:55 CET
Sajd bla razan jeqred hbieb !! Kemm dak kummercjali kif ukoll dilettanti. Ftit tal granet ilu kont ed nitkellem ma dilettant u ma sajjied profesjonali fuq is sajda tal bazuk. Ghalkemm dal ahhar dejjem ed thalli frott din is sajda ghal min jmur bil qasba izda tridu tifmu il punt li dak tal qasba, jekk sab bejta u baqa fuqa ha jibqa jaqbad diment li l kurrenti jiffavorixxuh. Dak is sajjied tal mistier li ma jkala konz ghal bazuk jekk forsi laqat bicca bahar xorta mhux ha jaqbad kwantita ax il konz baqa sejjer jifrex law u l hemm.

Il punt hu.... u tifmunix hazin ax mandi xej kontra dawk li jmorru bil qasab tal eletriku..... anzi nixtieq li ghandi qoxra biex immur alih izda tijej ma tippermettix li mmur f dak it tul..... imma id dilettant jrid joqod attent ukoll ax haw min ed jmur u jgib qabdiet kbar kull harga li jaghmel. Nibzaw ghal bahar taghna hbieb tieghi forsi jibza ghalina hu ;)

Ghax wisq nibza li ghada pit ghada it tfal taghna mhux se jkolna ghalxiex nihduwom jihdu pjecir u nderruwom in namra tal bahar.

Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 09, 2014, 09:52:24 CET
Bigboy, naqbel perfettament ma dak li qed tghid.  Jien naqla kritika qawwija fil bord tas-sajd minhabba l-ammont kbir ta bazuk u hut iehor tal-fond li jinqabad mid-dilettanti.  Li jinqabdu tuzzana biex taqlijhom ghal familja mod, imma li jinqabdu kilos kbar f'qabda wahda biex umbghadd jinbieghu mod iehor.  Is-sajjieda professjonali li tweggahhom mhux li ahna nistadu, imma li ahna nistadu bla kontroll, u l-hut li naqbdu jispicca fis-suq ukoll.  Hemm il-fattur ukoll ta' responsabilta u konservazzjoni.  Jien il-bahar ma nafux kif inhu illum.  Din il-gimgha mort nistad ghal qieh mat-tifel (father and son fishing outing).  Kont ili ma nistad hekk xi 20 sena.  Bdjna naqbdu gharrajjes u serran daqs naqra, kollha nerga nehlishom ghal bahar.  Jien kont nohrog nistad ma missieri, naqbdu gharajjes tal-kuruna kienu tal-kwart, u b'nofs tuzzana serran taghmel ikla aljotta tkemmex ix-xuftejn.  Li hbieb tieghi, il-bahar m'ghadux li kien.  Ejja mela nibzu ghal ftit li baqa.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 09, 2014, 10:06:41 CET
Hekk hu Gaffer !!

Sfortunatament ahna nippuntaw lej il kbar kultant imma hemm minna li ed nesageraw ukoll. !!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: busumark on May 09, 2014, 14:06:03 CET
Bigboy l ikbar sajdiet tal bazuk  isiru minn sajjieda profesjonali bil konzijit, jekk tmur l pixkerija u ikunu hemm lanqas jieqfu idahlu kaxxi.

Gaffer anke minn ghandu MFA u MFB huwa armat bl eletric reels igiefiri ma ifissirx li l bazuk kollha li ikun hemm inqabdu mid delettanti
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 09, 2014, 14:12:51 CET
Le le naf xqed nghid !!!! il hut tad dilettanti rajtu jien b dghajjes s u mfc ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 09, 2014, 16:17:42 CET
U jien nerga ntennilek li n nies li ed insemmi jmorru bil qasab ;)

Skuzani imma ma twelidx il bierah jien :)

Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 09, 2014, 17:20:37 CET
Hbieb, niftakru li dan huwa forum miftuh.  Pero huwa minnu li dilettanti qabdu kwantitajiet kbar ta Bazuk.  Jekk jinbiehx jew le mhux ser nikkumenta hawn.  Pero gibna hafna minn dan b'idejna.  Jien, meta tridu, niltaqaw wahda bhal ta l-antik, halli ma noqodx nitkellem hawn. Immorru f'dak il-bar tar-Rabat, u nghidilkom ezatt x'jghidu is-sajjieda professjonali u rapprezentanti tahhom.  Hafna milli jghidu hu minnu.  Jien u Dr. joe ninhanqu fil-bord.  Hemm bzonn inharsu l-quddiem, ghax id-delizzju taghna irridu nibqaw ingawduh.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 09, 2014, 18:53:59 CET
Quote from: FREEDIVE on May 09, 2014, 18:04:33 CET
Ma tridx toqod fuq kull ma jghidu certu "sajjieda professjonali" u hafna inqas dawk li suppost qed jirraprezentaw is-sajjieda. Allajbierek ta`spiss kienet tinqala l` kwistjoni fuq id-dilettanti waqt xi laghqa. La jibdew jafdawk u jifthu qalbhom mieghek jibdew izelqu naqra liema huma il-veru problemi li qed jiffaccja is-sajjied. 
Nabel ukoll.  Pero, la jafdawni, mhux gej fuq forum publiku nghid dak li gejt avdat bih.  Hemm hafna xoghol xi jrid issir. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: lazyfisherman on May 09, 2014, 21:19:47 CET
Illum d-dilettant hafna drabi armat tajjeb hafna - Jaf jonfoq balla liri(insomms ewros)  - ingenji jaghmlu 35 knot, fishfinders li jaqraw fondijiet kbar, electric reels etc. Fl-opinjoni tieghi, aktar ma tkun armat aktar trid tkun responsabbli ghax aktar jikber il potenzjal li taqbad hafna. Ftit individwi dilettanti mhux responsabbli u ftit sajdiet ezagerati min dilettanti jistghu jispiccaw jaghmlu hafna hsara lid-dilettanti kollha.

Fl-ahhar mill ahhar id-dilettant, anke jekk armat sewwa, irid jiftakar li l-ghan ewlieni jibqa dak  hu li jiehu siegha pjacir u mhux li jidhol mghobbi bil-hut bl-iskuza li irid jifdi l-ispejjez.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 10, 2014, 06:03:44 CET
Quote from: lazyfisherman on May 09, 2014, 21:19:47 CET
Illum d-dilettant hafna drabi armat tajjeb hafna - Jaf jonfoq balla liri(insomms ewros)  - ingenji jaghmlu 35 knot, fishfinders li jaqraw fondijiet kbar, electric reels etc. Fl-opinjoni tieghi, aktar ma tkun armat aktar trid tkun responsabbli ghax aktar jikber il potenzjal li taqbad hafna. Ftit individwi dilettanti mhux responsabbli u ftit sajdiet ezagerati min dilettanti jistghu jispiccaw jaghmlu hafna hsara lid-dilettanti kollha.

Fl-ahhar mill ahhar id-dilettant, anke jekk armat sewwa, irid jiftakar li l-ghan ewlieni jibqa dak  hu li jiehu siegha pjacir u mhux li jidhol mghobbi bil-hut bl-iskuza li irid jifdi l-ispejjez.
Prosit ta dan.  Din biss skuza tal-ispejjez.  Mintiex obligat tohrog il-barra u tarma bil-goff biex taqbad huta. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on May 10, 2014, 09:34:23 CET
Quote from: The_Gaffer on May 10, 2014, 06:03:44 CET
Quote from: lazyfisherman on May 09, 2014, 21:19:47 CET
Illum d-dilettant hafna drabi armat tajjeb hafna - Jaf jonfoq balla liri(insomms ewros)  - ingenji jaghmlu 35 knot, fishfinders li jaqraw fondijiet kbar, electric reels etc. Fl-opinjoni tieghi, aktar ma tkun armat aktar trid tkun responsabbli ghax aktar jikber il potenzjal li taqbad hafna. Ftit individwi dilettanti mhux responsabbli u ftit sajdiet ezagerati min dilettanti jistghu jispiccaw jaghmlu hafna hsara lid-dilettanti kollha.

Fl-ahhar mill ahhar id-dilettant, anke jekk armat sewwa, irid jiftakar li l-ghan ewlieni jibqa dak  hu li jiehu siegha pjacir u mhux li jidhol mghobbi bil-hut bl-iskuza li irid jifdi l-ispejjez.
Prosit ta dan.  Din biss skuza tal-ispejjez.  Mintiex obligat tohrog il-barra u tarma bil-goff biex taqbad huta. 

100% right. Nikkonferma li qed tghid gaffer
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 10, 2014, 14:20:37 CET
Heqq u minn qal li dawk I'd dajjes mfc, S Jew mod iehor ma jkunx ta wiehed li ghandu MFA JEW MFB mhux bhal dawk il kajjikki li jkalaw il parit, Jew knuz.
Imma Ahna qedin nitkellmu x jaghmel hsara lil bahar Jew fuq xi haga ohra.
Ghalija u nispera ma nhallix xi systema barra huma
Tkarkir
Lampara
Parit

Lohrajn bhal konz, electric Jew hydraulic reels winch, ma tantx jeffetwaw ghax normali jintuza go fond fejn mhux normali jinstad mill profesjonali. Kull minn jistad jaf li tista taghmel nofs ta nhar u ma taqbad xejn imbad taghmel sieha tieghu pjacir (mhux dejjem tigi dik is siegha).
Jekk irridu nfettqu, kull tip ta sajd ha jaghmel hsara, imma ma irridux nesegeraw.
L Amerika Vera ghandhom il kwoti imma ghas sajd fil lakes u xmajjar. Imma Hej jekk jinqabdu 100 huta, lawtorita terga titfa 200 ohra zaghar halli min imur jistad dejjem isib hut fix xmara. Il bahar mod iehor. Il bahar trid Tara xjaghmillu hsara u tillimita dak, bhal ma gara bit tonn.

Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on May 10, 2014, 16:29:29 CET
Ara din l-ahwa....l-awtoritajiet taljani ma tantx jicajtaw lanqas fuq il-qbid tat-tonn barra mill istagun!

http://www.italianfishingtv.it/24-000-euro-di-multa-per-un-tonno/

Tejduli xejn, min jabuza ikun tallab ghalija.  Tejdx mhux ha nisogra multa jew/u konfiska tal-opra tal-bahar ghal bicca tonna!  Veru itiek il-pjacier taqbada imma ejja inkunu sinciri, min hu kapaci jiekol tonna ta' 30Kgs+ wahdu jew mal-familja?  Dan l-ahhar kien hemm min ha ghalieh ghax ghedt li jekk naqbad wahda nimxi mar-regolamenti u ninforma tal-fisheries dwarha.  Ir-risposta tafu xkienet?  "Mela mhux hekk, biex il-kwota tintlahaq mil-ewwel!!!!"  Ara veru min jiraguna hekk ikun bahnan.  Mela habba erbgha min nis din il-kwalita' jehel kullhadd!  Jekk jalghaq ikun ghalaq, f**k it, nergaw nipruvaw stagun iehor!

Nispera li hawn hafna minkhom jaqblu mieghi fuq din!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 10, 2014, 20:49:06 CET
Skond ma liema bicca. Naqbel li ghandek timxi dejjem mal ligijiet. Naqbel li barra minn hekk trid ukoll tirrispeta in natura. Imma tonna ta 30 kg ma tantx iddum ghax Nieklu hut aktar min qtates. Dik f BBQ inharbtuha.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on May 10, 2014, 22:37:38 CET
Quote from: Icom on May 10, 2014, 16:29:29 CET
Ara din l-ahwa....l-awtoritajiet taljani ma tantx jicajtaw lanqas fuq il-qbid tat-tonn barra mill istagun!

http://www.italianfishingtv.it/24-000-euro-di-multa-per-un-tonno/

Tejduli xejn, min jabuza ikun tallab ghalija.  Tejdx mhux ha nisogra multa jew/u konfiska tal-opra tal-bahar ghal bicca tonna!  Veru itiek il-pjacier taqbada imma ejja inkunu sinciri, min hu kapaci jiekol tonna ta' 30Kgs+ wahdu jew mal-familja?  Dan l-ahhar kien hemm min ha ghalieh ghax ghedt li jekk naqbad wahda nimxi mar-regolamenti u ninforma tal-fisheries dwarha.  Ir-risposta tafu xkienet?  "Mela mhux hekk, biex il-kwota tintlahaq mil-ewwel!!!!"  Ara veru min jiraguna hekk ikun bahnan.  Mela habba erbgha min nis din il-kwalita' jehel kullhadd!  Jekk jalghaq ikun ghalaq, f**k it, nergaw nipruvaw stagun iehor!

Nispera li hawn hafna minkhom jaqblu mieghi fuq din!

Minn tonn ta 30kg, ghandek 6-7 kgs intern u rasu icom.

Naqbel ma shanook - tharbtu

biss nahseb tonnu ta 30kg ikun borderline tat tonn li nistaw nzommu
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on May 10, 2014, 23:38:45 CET
tnehhilha rasha, l-intern, ix-xewk u il-gilda qas 20kg ma jibqalek.  naghti 4 kilos lin-nanniet, lil min ikun hemm mieghi, xi haga liz-zijiet... u trid tara jekk jifdalx ghalija...

jekk tahseb li mhux kapaci tikolha flimkien mal-familja allura ikun jaqbel li ma tmurx ghax hela u jekk tmur u taqbad wahda ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 11, 2014, 06:34:40 CET
Quote from: caldaland on May 10, 2014, 14:10:37 CET
Thank you min hassarli l-post......................b'hekk nirbhu l-argument dejjem.............PROSIT!
Jien hassartulek il-post.  Ma nistax inhalli post fejn int qed tallega li l-awtoritajiet korrotti.  Dik hija malafama u ir-responsabilita tahha jerfuha l-aministrazjoni ta dan il-forum.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 11, 2014, 06:41:40 CET
It-tonnu li qbadt fil-program Fish On kien fih 63kgs.  Wara li nehhejt ir-ras u l-intern kien baqa xi 53kgs.  Wara li qassamt naqra lil ommi, hija, tfal, kunjata u xi hbieb, apparti minn kien mieghi dak inhar, kien baqa forsi 10kgs ghalija!

Icom, bil-fors irrid naqbel mieghek.  Irridu nosservaw il-ligijiet tal-pajjiz.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Pauline Tuna on May 12, 2014, 08:23:28 CET
Gaffer - Naqbel mighek perfettament....Pero nibqa nsostni il punt li nibqghu b'ghajnejna miftuhin ghal dak kollu li jista jaqsmilna it triq...kif dejjem ghedt u nibqa nghid.....Nsomma lets start 2014 season with pride...
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: lazyfisherman on May 12, 2014, 20:45:01 CET
http://www.italianfishingtv.it/24-000-euro-di-multa-per-un-tonno/

800 ewro il kilo giehom dak it-tonn!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on May 13, 2014, 18:04:49 CET
haqom ekk ax il ligi al kulhad eda .
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on May 14, 2014, 05:39:43 CET
Quote from: savioursajdbis on May 13, 2014, 18:04:49 CET
haqom ekk ax il ligi al kulhad eda .

Haqqhom???? Kliem is sajjied dilettant ehh.....
Issa jien mhux wiehed li mmur nistad ghalih ehh it-tonn....
Imma gej b haqqhom 24,000 multa jew.....

Viva il kuxjenza...
U ejja,,,qas haqq min jismaghna.....
Ghaliex int jekk tehel 1000 euro habba tonnu terga tmur ghalih? hemm ghalfejn tehel 24,000????
Meta taf bil qerq li hawn imbghad!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 14, 2014, 06:22:21 CET
Kulhadd subajh drittt :s pfftttttttttt
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on May 14, 2014, 07:47:52 CET
Quote from: lazyfisherman on May 12, 2014, 20:45:01 CET
http://www.italianfishingtv.it/24-000-euro-di-multa-per-un-tonno/

800 ewro il kilo giehom dak it-tonn!

Esagerata, to say the least. Jista jkun hawn t tghaffig big, imma nghid l verita, mux worth it - Darba jaqbduk u tibilghu ta' kollha.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on May 14, 2014, 09:15:31 CET
ifimni jekk thares lejn il user name tieghu biss biss tiehu idea ahjar... lazyfisherman... nimmagina li minn fuq is siggu tal computer ma tantx ghandu cans jaqbad qas tunnaggu.

Biex tkunu taf lazyfisherman... dik il multa qeghda hemm ukoll ghal min jaqbad tunnaggu, ghidli naqra tifel ikun ma missieru u jitfa rixa, dawn hadd minnhom qatt ma mar jistad u jaqbad tunnaggu... sewwa twahhalhom €24,000? dak abbuz.  umbad nies jinqabdu b'affarijit hafna hafna ghar jehlu ferm anqas jew xejn
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 14, 2014, 09:48:24 CET
U le esagerati hux.... Huta kull ma qabdu ta mhux marru serqu, qatlu jew bieghu id droga :/
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: lazyfisherman on May 14, 2014, 14:12:39 CET
Jahasra Gann jien kull ma ghedt li dak it-tonn  gie  jiswa 800 ewro ghal kull kilo! Issa mhux ovvja li ammont esagerat! Dak li ridt nenfasizza! Dazgur li mhux sewwa twahhal multi simili ghal tunnagga, specjalment meta ghal beginner difficli li jaghrfu minn tumbrell. Wara kollox id-dilettanti minn dejjem kienu jistadu ghat tunnagg  - il problemi bdew meta beda s-sajd industrijali fil-Mediterran biex iforni s-suq tal Japan.

By the way kemm ghandi jew ma ghandix cans nistad jew kemm noqghod wara l-kompjuter mhux bicca tieghek! Is-sliem.

Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on May 14, 2014, 14:29:03 CET
iva jien ekk nahsiba li haqom ax la taf li matistax tmurx alih tmurx u daqsek isa jek pkubinazjoni taqbat wihed itilqu u daqsek .jien alija min imur alih stagun maluq ax mux kapaci jistad mod ihor jew mejed bil guh sorry ima ekk nahsiba .
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: lazyfisherman on May 14, 2014, 14:47:41 CET
Ha nkun car - ghalkemm ghalija l-multa esagerata u mhux bi ftit mhux qed b'xi mod niskuza lil min deliberatament jikser il-ligi. Haqqhom multa tajba halli ma jerghux imma 24000 ghal tonnu ta 30kg way too much
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on May 14, 2014, 15:18:12 CET
u le vera 24000 mhux naqra imma ezzegerat imma aw hafna nies kull tant ma jitalmux u iwahlom il massimu jien li zgur ma naqbilx li tixtriom u zomom gol gageg tista coe jistaw ima taqbat wihed ma tistax dik li narha vijli jien .
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: dgal0021 on May 14, 2014, 15:22:59 CET
Il-Multi ghat tonn huma gholjin anki f pajjizi hafna iktar l boghod min xtutna, personalment nahseb li ezagerati imma min x imkien trid tieqaf...

Nahseb kulhadd haqqu warning forsi jkun zball genwin... b riskju ta multa wara warning tahsiba darbtejn, tleta, erba etc  :)

http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2013/08/20/two-men-fined-for-illegal-sale-of-bluefin-tuna/

http://www.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/news/illegal-tuna-fishing-nets-skipper-10000-fine/2096057/

Even worse than a fine is jail...

Fishers found guilty of fishing illegally or selling black-market fish may face jail terms of up to 10 years and fines of up to $42,500 for individuals and $212,500 for a company, in addition to the forfeiture of the value of the catch.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on May 14, 2014, 16:11:00 CET
u l-multi ta malta kemm qedin hali jekk ikun gahwn xi hadd jithajar jaqbdu ilegalment jahisba sew hehe
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 14, 2014, 17:42:56 CET
Il-fatti kif graw fl-Italia ma nafhomx, allura ma nistax nikkumenta jekk il-multa kienetx esagerata jew le.  Li Naf fuq l-Italia minn ghand l-assocjazzjoni Big game Italia li ghandhom lobby qawwi kemm mal fisheries tal-italia, kif ukoll mal-EU.  Minghalija il-kwota tad-dilettanti taljani hija ta 40 tunellata. Hemm lobby b'sahtu ukoll tal-qasam kummercjali tas-sajd.  Produtturi tal-attrezzaturi tas-sajd, u anki hwienet.
Hawn Malta l-istorja differenti.  Lobby ftit li xejn.  L-MFF u l-Federation biss issemmu lehinhom favur id-dilettanti tas-sajd.  Kieku mhux ghal dawn iz-zewg ghaqdiet, kieku addijo kwota tat-tonn ghad dilettanti.  
Lura ghal argument tal-multa.  Jien nghid li jekk kienu jafu bil-konsegwenzi, allura kullhadd responsabli ta' ghemilu.  Jekk ma kienux jafu, allura l-istorja differenti.  Hawn Malta ukoll differenti.  Kullhadd jaf il-konsegwenzi.  L-argument ta Gianni ma jreggix.  Ha nispjega ghala.  Jekk hiereg tistad, u taf li hemm regolamenti fuq is-sajd, ghandek tagharaf u taggorna ruhek ma dawn ir-regolamenti.  Nammetti li jkun hemm kazijiet genwini, imma l-maggoranza ma jkunux.  Kull minn ikun mal-fishfarms ghat tonn jaf x'qed nghid.  Kull minn johrog ghal lampuki jaf x'jien nghid, kull minn jitfa dik il-huta undersized fil barmil jew barrada, jaf x'qed nghid.  Hbieb tieghi, responsabilita u rispett lejn dik il-huta li qed nipprovaw naqbdu.  Naf x'qed nghid ;)
Tqazzizt fuq FB nara ritratti u videos ta' kwantita kbira ta hut maqbud kemm fil-port u kemm barra ta undersized fish minn dilettanti bhalna.  Minfuq, nghamlulhom like u kummenti pjacevoli bhal nice catch, int il-king, u hafna kummenti ohra.    
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on May 14, 2014, 19:55:08 CET
24,000 euro huma ezagerazzjoni, kulhadd jghid li jrid.

Meta tqabbel ma infringments ferm ghar min dawn, li per ezempju jistghu joqtlu bniedem (bhal fil kas tal-igjene fl-ikel fil qasam li nahdem fih jiena), il-multi qatt ma naf li qabzu il 500 euro....
Mela jekk fil periklu huwa bniedem tehel 500 u jekk fil periklu tkun huta tehel 24,000.

Barra minn dan kulhadd jaf l-abbuzi li hawn minn min qed isiru. (u mhux fil kaz tat tonn biss, ghax nerga nghid, ghat tonn jien darbtejn hrigt f'hajti, u man nies mort, Tony shanook jikkonferma). Jigifieri hawn nistghu nerghu nghidu bi zgur li jekk jaqbdu lilek tehel iva, imma jekk ikun Pietru, Peppi, u Gwanni ..... hekk stroja ohra....... Dak mhux sewwa, u l-abbuz dawk qed ihegguh....
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 14, 2014, 20:58:03 CET
Mela taqbad tonna tehel 24,000 u tkaxkar il gieh u teqred kull ma hemm f zona protetta u ma jigri xejn???
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: EmicMalta on May 15, 2014, 05:39:44 CET
Jien haga nixtieq nistaqsi, meta jkunu dehlin bil gageg at tonn, f kull gagga kuljum imut numbru konsiderat ta tonn. Mhux nitkellem fuq xi tonnu 1 jew 2, imma ammont kbir kuljum. Dak xi jsir minnhu, u dak jkun imnizzel fil kwota? Niftakru li mhux gagga wahda tkun gejja.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 15, 2014, 05:49:59 CET
Il-multa mhux l-argument.  L-argument huwa li wiehed ihallas tal-konsegwenzi.  Issa jekk tkun 1 euro, 1000euros jew 24000 euro, xorta ksirt il-ligi!
Illum tista tehel eluf ta euros talli toqtol tajra protetta!
Dak li qatel il-kelb, wehel minghalija 20,000 euros, u dan Malta!
Emic- nista nikkonferma li dak it-tonn li jmut u l-awtoritajiet ikunu jafu bih, jitnaqqas mill-kwota.  Ha nghati ezempju; is-sena l-ohra kien hemm xi karkassi tat-tonn max-xatt ta San Pawl, il-piz tahhom tnaqqas mill-kwota tal-fishfarms. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: EmicMalta on May 15, 2014, 06:57:22 CET
meta jsir hekk haga tajba, ax hi hasra meta huta tmut u ma tigiex konsumata.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: lazyfisherman on May 15, 2014, 13:37:16 CET
Gaffer, ghalija l-argument precizament l-ammont tal-multa - il bqija ma hemmx wisq x' tikkummenta - la tikser il-ligi trid toqghod ghal konsekwenzi. U jekk tirispetta l-bahar u d-delizzju tieghek ma tmurx tikser il-ligi - la taqbad tonn bla permess u lanqas izzomm cerna ta 100 gramma fil-barmil. Ma hemmx argumenti. Imma il kastig ghandu jkun proporzjonali ghal 'crime'. Ghalija 24000 ewro ghal tonnu wiehed ma jiriflettix dan.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on May 16, 2014, 14:15:08 CET
Rajtuwa din?

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20140516/local/Brussels-pushes-to-ban-walls-of-death-.519189
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 17, 2014, 15:38:25 CET
Mela, lura ghall-argument tal-Multa.  Ghadni kif aggornajt ruhi ftit mal-ligijiet taghna l-maltin.  Skond Cap 425 li hija il-fisheries conservation and management Act tal 2001, aggornata fit-2006 u emmendata fit-2009, jekk issir kontravenzjoni bhal nghidu ahna sajd ghat tonn bla permess, il multa massima hija ta €11,000. Din il multa hija applikabli ghal minn qed jistad bla permess...mhemx ghalfejn ikollu tonn abbord!  Il ligi tippermetti lil fisheries protection officers biex jekk ikollhom reasonable doubt li ghandek irkatptu relatat mas-sajd tat-tonn jista jressqek b-arrest, dan billi jikkonfiska l-irkaptu li ghandek abbord, u jessebieh il-qorti. Dan l-irkaptu jista jintuza bhala prova kontrik. Il-ligi tippermettih dan. Jien minghalija li il-pulizija biss hawn Malta ghanda setat ezzekutivi, i ma l-att tal fisheries taghti is-sahha lil fisheries protection officers jaggixxu fuq l-istess livell bhal pulizija u AFM.  Oltre minn hekk, id-direttur tal fisheries ghandu is-sahha jahtar persuni ta' fiducja tieghu biex jaghmluha ta fisheries protection officers, bis-setghat kollha li ttijhom il-ligi.
Jekk ikollok permess biex tistad, nghidu ahna ghat tonn, imma tikser jew tmur kontra wiehed mir-regolamenti stipulati fil permess hekk kif mahrug mill fisheries, allura il-multa minima hija ta €2,239 sa multa massima ta €23,293.
Iggifieri jista jkun ( u mhux nghid li hekk hu, ghax mghandiex provi tahha din) li il ligijiet fejn jidhlu fisheries conservation and controls fl-EU huma iddentici, u il multi huma ugwali.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: markus on May 18, 2014, 15:41:40 CET
x'kundizzjonijiet japlikaw fuq il-harira ? braid tista u sakemm hxuna massimu ?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: jesc on May 18, 2014, 19:30:22 CET
L-applikazzjoni ghas sajd tat tonn maghluqa?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 18, 2014, 21:57:34 CET
L-applikazzjonijiet iPhone li ghalqu habib.

Hxuna tal-ferha tal-harira ghat-tonn Hija as Massimu ta' 1.1mm. Braid tista tuza ukoll.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Clayton on May 19, 2014, 07:11:45 CET
Allura jekk ikollok affarijiet relatat mas-sajd tat-tonn jista jwehlek u jtellek il-qorti. Igifieri jekk tkun qed trejex ghal alungi ( ma tkunx qbadt tonn) u jsiblek ir-rix tal-alungi li jista jinqabad it-tonn fuqu u ma jkollokx il-permess li taqbad it-tonn jista johodulek u jresqek il-qorti.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 19, 2014, 08:57:00 CET
Le hemm differenza!!

Irkaptu tat tonn = snanar tat tonn propja u harira li taqbes il 110
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 19, 2014, 13:16:42 CET
Quote from: bigboy on May 19, 2014, 08:57:00 CET
Le hemm differenza!!

Irkaptu tat tonn = snanar tat tonn propja u harira li taqbes il 110

Ezatt
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 19, 2014, 13:34:58 CET
Il Harira taqbes il 110 Jew sa 110.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 19, 2014, 14:51:04 CET
Il harira li jkollok abbord ma tridx tkun taqbes il 110. Pero mhux bix induru mal kantuniera imma jekk trejjex ghal alungi fuq l idejn u tuza harira 150 jistaw jajdulek xi haga ?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: fisheye on May 19, 2014, 15:05:00 CET
Jigifieri dawn il-hafna klamari u skirts li issib pre-rigged u lesti b'haria 100lb, 130lb u snanar 5/0 jew 8/0 dawk ma tistax iz-zommom?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 19, 2014, 15:59:15 CET
Igifieri jekk Jien ghandi permess ghat ton u inkun f zminu nista nuza Harira sa 110 hux hekk. Imma jekk inkun ghal Alungi b harira ta 110 imma ma jkollix permess ghat ton u inkun qied nistad f closed season xjigri??
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 19, 2014, 16:06:34 CET
Nahseb trolling huwa mod, u tistad mal fishfarms, b'harira ta iktar minn 1.10mm jew xi harira 1.5 ma sunnara tat-tonn, illixxkat b'xi kaval jew sawrella, marbut ma baga zghira, u jkompli bil-lenza jew harira dopja, u xi kaxxa kavalli jew sawrell tghalef - ghandi nifhem hekk ma tkunx ghall-Alungi hux!
Nahseb irridu nkunu prattici hux. 

Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 19, 2014, 16:10:47 CET
Quote from: bigboy on May 19, 2014, 14:51:04 CET
Il harira li jkollok abbord ma tridx tkun taqbes il 110. Pero mhux bix induru mal kantuniera imma jekk trejjex ghal alungi fuq l idejn u tuza harira 150 jistaw jajdulek xi haga ?
L-importanti li l-ferha ma taqbizx il-110.  Ir-regolament jghid li il-ferha ma tridx tkun aktar minn 110, dejjem qed nitkelmu fejn jidhol is-sajd ghat-tonn.   Dan ir-regolament huwa ugwali kemm ghalina id-dilettanti kif ukoll ghas-sajjieda professjonali li ghandhom il-permess ghat-tonn. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 19, 2014, 16:19:45 CET
Biex inkompli ma dak li diga ktibt.  Id-dilettanti ma jistawx juzaw xi forma ta konz ghas-sajd tat-tonn.  Anzi, ir-regolament jitkellem car fuq l-irkapti permessi ghal qbid tat-tonn minn sajjieda dilettanti, iggifieri:
L-irkapti permessi huma biss il-qasba, ir-rixa jew il-harpoon.  
Naf li hawn hafna minnkom li ser taqbzu fuqi u tghidu imma mal-fishfarms hlief sajjieda juzaw il-baga ma jkunx hemm.  U jien nghid veru dan.  Imma jien qed nikkwota mir-regolamenti, u miniex ser nghati parir li jmur kontra ir-regolamenti.  Minn irrid jimxi mod iehor, jaghmel hu.  Kullhadd responsabli ta' ghemilu :)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 19, 2014, 21:47:41 CET
Pero jekk Jien immur ghal Alungi u jkolli Harira ta 110 u sunnara, din tigi mehuda li hiereg ghat tonn. Fir regolamenti ma jsemmu xejn fejn isibek imma xi rkapti ghandek fuq I'd dajsa. Igifieri jekk tkun qied tistad ghal tal qieh fuq is sikka u jigi tal AFM u jsiblek Harira tal 110 bsunnara hoxna go cupboard Jew f'xi kaxxa, Jew bar il, fid dajsa hemm x jigri. Iharkek Jew le??
Sa fejn naf Jien ghat tonn anki hand lines huma permessi, ghax meta kienu ha johorgu lewwel darba kont iddiskutejta mat tabib, li mhux kullhadd jaffordja qasba tat tonn.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: busumark on May 20, 2014, 05:28:31 CET
13. The fishing line used by the authorised vessels cannot be thicker than 160mm during the season.

dawn r regoli qedin f din l post izjed lura. fir regoli  hemm miktub li 160 mm irid ikun x xlief. din tal 110 mm sibtuha x imkien iehor
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 20, 2014, 05:41:43 CET
@Shanook - jien kont qied nikkwota mir-regolamenti tat-2013.  Ahna ftehmna li dawn ir-regolamenti ma jinbidlux. Rigward xi jsiblek fuq il-lanca, ir-regolamenti tal-425 jitkelmu fuq uzu.  Jekk qied msakkar f'cupboard, mintiex qed tuzah hux.  
@Buzumark - nahseb qied tikkwota minn xi regolamenti antiki  Il-ferha ma tistax tkun ehxen minn 1.1mm.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on May 20, 2014, 06:50:26 CET
@gaffer. MINISTERU GALL-IVILUPP SOSTENIBBLI,
L-AMBJENT U TIBDIL FIL-KLIMA
SEGRETARJAT PARLAMENTARI
GALL-BIEDJA, SAJD
U DRITTIJIET TAL-ANNIMALI
MALTA
MINISTRY FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT,
THE ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE CHANGE
PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARIAT
FOR AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES
AND ANIMAL RIGHTS
Dipartiment tas-Sajd u Akkwakultura Department of Fisheries & Aquaculture
Gammieri, Ngiered Road, Marsa MRS 3303
Tel: +356 2292 1111 Freephone: 80072240 Fax: +356 2292 1221
Email: infofisheries.msdec@gov.mt
27 March 2014
Procedures to be implemented by the Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture during the 2014
recreational bluefin tuna campaign


13. The fishing line used by the authorised vessels cannot be thicker than 160mm during the season.
The DFA will carry out inspections of the line at landings and during routine inspections at sea to
ensure the fishing gear is in line with this provision.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 20, 2014, 07:18:54 CET
Kevin G - i appreciate what you just posted.  I am not aware of this.  Still, 160mm is wrong.  160mm is 16cm, and we both know that there is no fishing line as thick as that. 
Where did you get this text from please?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: fisheye on May 20, 2014, 08:25:30 CET
I can confirm that on the "Procedures to be implemented by the Department of
Fisheries and Aquaculture during the 2014" document that I downloaded from the link below states 160mm but I am sure its a big missprint
recreational bluefin tuna campaign https://www.dropbox.com/s/mv9o6xhymy4frsq/procedures%20for%202014%20BFT%20recreational%20campaign.pdf
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 20, 2014, 08:44:02 CET
1.60mm ridet tigi nahseb
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on May 20, 2014, 09:28:21 CET
gaffer if you go page 4 of this topic there is the post by Fisheye. i think it shold have been liseted as 1.60mm
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on May 20, 2014, 09:54:14 CET
@ gaffer is sena l-ohra 1.6mm kienet.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 20, 2014, 14:26:13 CET
Nies allura l ligi tajdlek harira mhux ehxen min 1.60mm sew.

Harira tal 1.20mm ghal 2 permessa jew le ?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on May 20, 2014, 14:30:24 CET
is sena lohra kienet singla massimu sa 1.60mm doppja sa massium sa 0.80mm u trippla sa massium sa 0.50mm... ma tghamilx sens imma hekk kienet
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 20, 2014, 14:39:46 CET
Hafna taa bla sens insomma issa naraw hehehe
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on May 20, 2014, 16:49:11 CET
fuq kollox meta ha jibatuwomna il-karti tal-permess?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 20, 2014, 18:11:37 CET
Il-permessi suppost ha nircevuhom ghal bidu ta Gunju. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on May 22, 2014, 14:16:18 CET
Jien fuq I'll karta li andi 160 mm andi miktub
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on May 22, 2014, 18:38:38 CET
Din tal-160mm bilfors trid tkun zbal ghax lanqas il-habel li nuza biex nankra ma fih 160mm!  1.6cms jigu ta!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: lazyfisherman on May 22, 2014, 19:43:46 CET
Ovvja li zball - 160mm jigu 16 cm mhux 1.6 cm- daqs katusa tat-toilets!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on May 22, 2014, 20:10:47 CET
Mela 1.6mm
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on May 24, 2014, 08:26:43 CET
Sinjuri, l-licenzji tat-tonn bdew gejjien.  Tieghi ircivejta dalghodu.  Il-kwistjoni tal-hxuna tal-harira qeda miktuba cara kristal.  "Mhux iktar min 1.1mm singlu".
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 24, 2014, 14:14:38 CET
Quote from: Icom on May 24, 2014, 08:26:43 CET
Sinjuri, l-licenzji tat-tonn bdew gejjien.  Tieghi ircivejta dalghodu.  Il-kwistjoni tal-hxuna tal-harira qeda miktuba cara kristal.  "Mhux iktar min 1.1mm singlu".
Hekk hu.  Pero, biex inkun ezatt, anki is-sena l-ohra, fuq il-permess, 1.1 kien hemm imnizzel ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: savioursajdbis on May 24, 2014, 14:55:06 CET
anki fuq il permes li ircivejt ilum 1.1 eda .igifiri tal 110 hu !
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on May 24, 2014, 17:25:58 CET
pero din id darba ma hemx hand line. igifieri irridu nistadu bil qasba bil fors??????   ghax hemm qasba, rixa jew harpoon.   Xi jridu jiedu bija RIXA????
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 24, 2014, 17:30:14 CET
Shanook, to be fair, anki is-sena l-ohra, minghajr handline il-permess kien. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on May 24, 2014, 17:34:50 CET
I got mine as well
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: lazyfisherman on May 24, 2014, 21:00:42 CET
Nimmagina li rixa tinkludi handline - rixa minn dejjem konna nifhmu bijha handline b'rixa (jew numru ta rix) - dan l-ahhar li bdejna 'nrejjxu' bil-qasab
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on May 25, 2014, 07:49:50 CET
Jekk gor rukell tamel braid, imbad tqabadlu xlief natukas 1.25mm u mbad tohrog leader as sunara  skond il permes sa 110 single. hekk tista?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on May 25, 2014, 08:48:11 CET
Quote from: Kevin G on May 25, 2014, 07:49:50 CET
Jekk gor rukell tamel braid, imbad tqabadlu xlief natukas 1.25mm u mbad tohrog leader as sunara  skond il permes sa 110 single. hekk tista?

Iva tista.  Ir-regolament fuq il-ferha qied. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on May 25, 2014, 10:56:32 CET
thanks gaffer :)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: markus on May 25, 2014, 12:06:10 CET
Bil mitluq fuq idejk ma tistax ux ed niftemu ?? bilfors trid qazba skond ir-regolamenti ?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: busumark on May 25, 2014, 17:44:40 CET
din d darba iridu nibatu sms qabel nohorgu jew le ax mhemmx imnizzel xejn hlief icempel qabel tkun diehel jekk taqbad wiehed
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on May 26, 2014, 06:04:46 CET
4 sieghat qabel??? Hekk kienet ukoll?
Jilhaq isir tonn ta zejt f'4 sieghat...
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 26, 2014, 06:35:45 CET
Baghira filkas jekk tkun cert li se taqbad...... ibaghtu qabel titlaq mid dar l SMS :P
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 26, 2014, 09:01:59 CET
Hbieb ta kulhadd wasal il permess ??

Jien baght 4 aplikazjonijiet tijej u ta shabi.... huma kolla rcevewh u tijej ma wasalx !
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on May 26, 2014, 09:52:22 CET
tana wasal il-gima.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Galea_5 on May 26, 2014, 10:00:34 CET
Received !
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: skip on May 26, 2014, 11:44:13 CET
Not received mine yet, but will keep an eye out.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: fisheye on May 26, 2014, 12:13:59 CET
mine arrived on Saturday
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: kris on May 26, 2014, 14:33:18 CET
Received too!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 26, 2014, 14:54:16 CET
Received today...... Heard there are some good sized fish out there ;) 200 - 350kg mark range
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on May 26, 2014, 19:02:23 CET
200-350 holy shit already still the start of the season......
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: joe on May 26, 2014, 19:53:50 CET
Received to
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on May 27, 2014, 12:15:22 CET
Hallih ha jmiss clayton thabbilx rasek ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on May 27, 2014, 18:05:24 CET
Hazin ghax malajr talaq il kwota jekk jibdew jaqbdu ta 200kg!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on May 28, 2014, 06:36:26 CET
received mine on friday
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: pedro63 on June 01, 2014, 20:43:12 CET
Dear all , to be legally compliant, does the hook should be strictly circle? or it can be a "J" hook?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on June 02, 2014, 06:51:14 CET
Pedro63 did you receive your license. Read it and follow it to the letter and you will be covered.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Clayton on June 02, 2014, 08:10:57 CET
http://vimeo.com/59807927 Arawh daqsiex fih it ton li jaqbdu dawn u kif jitla mahhom. Tal genn.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Ruzett on June 02, 2014, 11:32:21 CET
C&R kien
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: skip on June 04, 2014, 11:44:10 CET
Quote from: skip on May 26, 2014, 11:44:13 CET
Not received mine yet, but will keep an eye out.

Received mine, forgot to post update!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on June 10, 2014, 08:30:22 CET
Wiehed qal li nqabdet xi kwota ta tonn.. imma season ghadu ma nfetahx mhux hekk? Veru jew qed iharref??
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on June 10, 2014, 08:46:18 CET
tas sajjieda imma mhux tad delettanti.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on June 10, 2014, 08:50:41 CET
Tks rednaell I thought so but wasnt sure ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: kris on June 11, 2014, 11:48:10 CET
Hi everyone,

So I have some very interesting news from Dr Carabott regarding the use of a handline  (if it is illegal), and what is exactly meant by "rixa":


Dear Mr. Pulis Kristian,

No, hand line with or without floats is legal once the line diameter is observed.

"Rixa" is the Maltese translation of trolling as for frigate mackerel (tumbrel), dolphin fish (lampuka), albacore (alonga) etc.... Occasionally tuna is caught by trolling.

Hope that this helps.

Regards,
Joe



Hope this clarifies a lot of queries that were asked earlier in this thread :)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on June 11, 2014, 13:07:55 CET
thanks kris for sharing :)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Clayton on June 11, 2014, 18:36:36 CET
Fejn il-farms tat-tonn tista toqod il-barra mill-habel li jkun hemm imdawwar jew forsi hemm xi distanza li tista toqod il-boghod minnhu? Thanks
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on June 11, 2014, 20:50:19 CET
Mela bil qazba bifors irid isir issajd! Tks Kris salvajt xeba nies
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: kris on June 11, 2014, 21:05:36 CET
Quote from: bonell on June 11, 2014, 20:50:19 CET
Mela bil qazba bifors irid isir issajd! Tks Kris salvajt xeba nies

Le bonell jista jsir ukol bix-xlif fuq l-idejn u jistaw jintuzaw anki floats. L-importanti li l-hxuna tax-xlief jiqba skond ir-regolamenti.

Clayton...diment li izzom il-barra mill-boundary tal-fishfarms tista toqod vicin jew il-boghod kem trid.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on June 12, 2014, 04:37:41 CET
Ghandek ragun Kris issa qed naqraha sew.. mela ahjar ha nifranka qazba gdida :p
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on June 12, 2014, 13:18:43 CET
Kris ahjar ktibt il-mistoqsija biex nifhmu ir risposta ahjar..
Grazzi Xorta..
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: kris on June 12, 2014, 13:49:56 CET
Quote from: baghira on June 12, 2014, 13:18:43 CET
Kris ahjar ktibt il-mistoqsija biex nifhmu ir risposta ahjar..
Grazzi Xorta..


Baghira hsibt li ir-risposta kienet self-explanatory...insomma ha nippostja kolla mela :)

My Question

Good afternoon Dr Carabott,

I need some clarification with regards to the allowed amateur fishing methods for Bluefin tuna. On the fishing regulations there is written that one can fish by rod, "rixa" or harpoon. Does that mean that one who is not in a financial position to buy the very expensive tuna gear (rod and reel), and thus resorts to a handline and floats, is doing something illegal? Also, can you further explain what is really meant by "rixa"...does it mean trolling?

Can you kindly clarify this point? Of course by handline I still imply that it falls within the stipulated line diameter specified by the regulations.

Thanks!

Best Regards,
Kristian Pulis



Answer from Dr Carabott

Dear Mr. Pulis Kristian,

No, hand line with or without floats is legal once the line diameter is observed.

"Rixa" is the Maltese translation of trolling as for frigate mackerel (tumbrel), dolphin fish (lampuka), albacore (alonga) etc.... Occasionally tuna is caught by trolling.

Hope that this helps.

Regards,
Joe




Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on June 12, 2014, 14:51:08 CET
Nispera li it-tabib Carabott ma kienx qed jifmek ghal pratika fejn wiehed juza il-metodu tal-landa waqt li jkun qed irrejjex ghal-alungi.  Sa fejn naf jien, l-uzu tal landa jew fender zghir ghas-sajd specifiku tat-tonn fi-vicinanzi tal-fishfarm huwa ipprojbit.  Li kont minnek nikkonferma ma l-awtoritajiet koncernati, iggifieri fisheries.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: kris on June 12, 2014, 15:10:07 CET
Najd il-verita' batt email il-fisheries ukol Joe imma qbajt bla risposta...

Milli nista nifhem l-enfasi hi fuq il line diameter. Issa nara ux l-kas li nerga nibat it-tabib Carabott mela ha nikkonferma l-punt.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: kris on June 12, 2014, 18:50:46 CET
Mela din hi mill gdied il-mistoqsija tieghi u r-risposta tad-Dott. Carabott:

My email

Dear Joe,

With reference to my previous email, can you kindly confirm that one can make use of floats (laned, fenders, etc.) to catch Bluefin tuna (even in the vicinity of a fish farm)? Again I emphasize that the proper line diameter stipulated by law is observed. What I mean by this is that instead of one making use of a rod and reel to fight and tire a tuna, a jerry can or fender is used.

I am asking this since I personally do not own any expensive tuna gear, apart from the fact that this is almost exclusively how people fish for Bluefin tuna by the fish farms.

I have also sent an email to the fisheries but I have not received a reply so far.

P.s. Sorry for any inconvenience, but I do not wish any 'surprises' i.e. heavy fines for breaking the law.

Kind Regards,
Kristian



Dr Carabott's Reply


Dear Mr Kristian Pulis,

During our meetings with the Fisheries Directorate re regulation of Amateur Fishermen Tuna License, the use of floats to tire the catch was not considered illegal provided that there is one hook and not a serious of hooks and floats as that will be a long line which is prohibited.

You can fish by the fish farms provided you are out of their perimeter marks.

Regards
Joe



Jigifieri din il-kwistjoni tal-handlines u laned suppost 100% cara issa :)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on June 13, 2014, 06:09:24 CET
Grazzi.... Clear...

Iva ma fhimtx x'qal il-gaffer fuq laned ghall alungi, u laned mal fishfarms...!

Imma l-aqwa li clear.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: kris on June 13, 2014, 06:12:16 CET
Ahjar ek, l-importanti li cara kristal halli mbad mux sorprizi wara :)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on June 13, 2014, 18:27:38 CET
kris can you send me the email of Dr carabott pls here or PM thanks
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on June 13, 2014, 19:04:57 CET
Li nahseb ried jirreferi Gaffer ghal alungi gieli jrejxu u jorbtu landa fittarf... kif taqbad il huta toqod tithabat ma landa u kif tkun ghajjiena ittellahha.  Inqas gost imma tifranka li tixtri qazba u fl opinjoni tieghi aktar facli ukoll. Wasalna flahhar guys... Rih imma qisu ghandna next week :( mhux gravi imma nahseb sa nhar il hamis min ikun xoghol filodu bhali mhux se jittanta xortih
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on June 13, 2014, 20:48:21 CET
Bonell jekk trid tiffranka qasba ghal alungi, Uza Harira tas 70 ghmlila loop u zommha bidejk, malli taqbad aqta il gas u uza idejk bhala shock absorber, u tieghu gost xorta. Bid 90 tista tibqa is suq normali u tiskija alunga warajk. Ma hemx ghalfejn qabad laned.....
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on June 13, 2014, 20:54:36 CET
Ghandi qaba jien Shanook :)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on June 13, 2014, 22:20:39 CET
Nies intkom kif tifmuwa, fir regoli hemm li mainline mux aktar min 110. Mainline al harrira kolla jew il fergha. Fis sens fir rukel jek namel braid + xlief 1.25mm + swivel + fergha sa 110mm nkum ed nikser il ligi perrs li andi xorta harira 125mm
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on June 14, 2014, 03:58:13 CET
Le jekk fir rukkell ghandek Harira ta 125 u leader ta 110 Jew rukkell bil 110 u leader ta 200 xorta qied skond ir regoli. Sew jekk tkun bil hand line ikollok habel u Harira tal 110 tkun qied sew.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on June 14, 2014, 09:18:40 CET
Shanook allura kif qed tajd int..... nista nkun armat mis sunnara sal landa bil 200 umbad mil landa al god dajsa bil 110 ? ax ma nahsibx li tamel  sens eh
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on June 14, 2014, 14:08:59 CET
Jien fhimta li ferha tkun 110 u lbqija tkun li trid.. ma taghmilx sens qabel landa ikun ehxen
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on June 14, 2014, 18:08:12 CET
le jekk tkun bil landa trid tkun 110 mill landa sas sunnara imbad tista tkompli bcima tal vapuri.....
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on June 14, 2014, 18:11:11 CET
il bahar taghna car wisq anki 110  jikxfek..
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on June 15, 2014, 07:02:55 CET
l-importanti li jekk jigu fuqna ma jejdu xejn ax ikun hemm xlief ehxen mil 110...
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: kris on June 15, 2014, 17:00:29 CET
Quote from: Kevin G on June 13, 2014, 18:27:38 CET
kris can you send me the email of Dr carabott pls here or PM thanks

Kevin, Dr Carabotts's email is: dr.carabott@marcompmalta.com
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on June 15, 2014, 17:08:26 CET
Big meta tistad bil qasba normali ikollok il leader Ihxen mill main line. Imma bil landa mod iehor. Kif edt int ma taghmilx sens jekk tandem bhal tal qasba.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on June 16, 2014, 10:46:05 CET
ok shanook mela ha narma bil qasba..... nahdem bil landa xorta. Mil landa sas sunnara bl ohxon umbad mil landa al qasba bil braid :) heqq dik il leader hux
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on June 16, 2014, 14:33:59 CET
Heqq dejjem tista taghmel hekk, Jien nigi narak il habs fil kas. Hekk Jew hekk il laring irhis u flixkun ilma mhux ser ifaqqarni.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on June 16, 2014, 14:38:08 CET
Big meta nuzaw il qasab taghna nkunu armati ghaz zaghar. Jekk ma tridx tonfoq elufi ta liri.  Ghallura il leader jigi tal 110 u fil qasba ikollok ta xi 80.  Ghax I'd drag tal qasba xorta mhux ser tvinci il breaking strain tal 110.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on June 16, 2014, 15:38:20 CET
hahaha u le niprovaw nidqu naqa biex naqtaw il monotonija. issa naraw kollox lest ghanna kif nsibu kwarta cans naharbu ghalih forsi nisirqu wiehed :P
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on June 16, 2014, 18:14:54 CET
Ghal hdejna big narak ghax lewwel naqra bahar kalm hemm naddia. Pero ma jidirx li hemm tonn sa Issa. Kien hemm xi wiehed idur aktar kmieni imma ma Derx aktar.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on June 19, 2014, 10:28:46 CET
Haw min kellu xi naqra xorti jew?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: pedro63 on June 19, 2014, 20:00:57 CET
Sissa ghadni ma hadtx go, l1 cans immur naqra
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on June 22, 2014, 07:07:49 CET
il-birah morna, kien hemm madwar 7 sajjieda ohra at-tonn u laqas messa u qas imarka xej fuq il-gps. Kien hemm tal-fisheries xi6.30am imma qadu iduru mal gageg fuq gewwa u kelmu lin nies li kienu fuq gewwa probali as sawrell. imma min kien at-tonn fuq barra ma marux fuqu.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on June 22, 2014, 08:00:24 CET
Liema fishfarm kont Kevin?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on June 22, 2014, 10:11:48 CET
ta san pawl il-bahar
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: fisheye on June 22, 2014, 15:11:53 CET
Ghal xi l-10.00am tal-fishfarms keccew lil kulhad u qabdu idawru kullimkien bil-hbula, daqsekk sawrell nahseb
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: jeremy on June 22, 2014, 15:22:36 CET
liem fishfarm??
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on June 22, 2014, 19:57:49 CET
Quote from: fisheye on June 22, 2014, 15:11:53 CET
Ghal xi l-10.00am tal-fishfarms keccew lil kulhad u qabdu idawru kullimkien bil-hbula, daqsekk sawrell nahseb

halli issa jdawruwa u jghalfu t tonn bija...
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on June 22, 2014, 20:12:03 CET
Mela ghalxejn nahseb nitla hemm fuq ghada? Ghax kont se niprova naqra wara nofsinar. xi hadd prova ta Hurds bank?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on July 01, 2014, 17:52:31 CET
fuq il permess ma jedx li trid tavza id dipartiment tas sajd li hiereg tistad imma milli nista nifem jejd biex tavza f`kas ta qbid u 4 sieghat qabel ma tidhol il port bieh. Ikoreguni jek mhux qed nejd sewwa pls. Haga ohra li nixtieq insaqsi, il membri tal permess jigu infurmati bxi mod bil hut li qed jinqabad jew min hawn bis nistaw nsiru nafu?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on July 01, 2014, 18:48:06 CET
mela memx x`tamel ha jkolna ncemplulhom qabel biex naraw il kwota nlahqitx u jhallunix nohorgu.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on July 01, 2014, 20:39:01 CET
Kemm ahna infurmati sewwa hux. Min irid jaghmel l affarijiet sewwa irid jissallab f dan il pajjiz, biex forsi jiehu xi ftit informazzjoni minghand dan l ghaziz dipartiment.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: EmicMalta on July 02, 2014, 04:58:20 CET
JIena sa fejn naf jien ma ghandiex miktub fuq il permess li ircevejt, u ma jfissirx li kull darba li nohrog jiena ejjer nistad at tonn. Pero qed nisma certu kummidji li qas timmagginom. Issa fuq il bahar ahna ma ghandniex il igi f idejna, alluwra difficli tiehu ragun jekk jahsel il persuna ma tiehux grazja mijek, u facli jinad li qed ittawwal ilsienek.

Nixtieq nistaqsi, li jek jigri hekk, lil min nistaw ncemplu biex jajna u jatina parir? min hu inkarigat, ax nahseb jekk jkolna ncemplu avukat personali, xorta ma hux tal mestjier u difficli tiehu ir ragun.

Jien xi 3 snin ijlu, b accola ta 32kg gew jissekwestrawa u malli saqsejt lil pulizija, ghaliex u min fejn harget il ligi, gie qalli li kienet ada hierga, u la ma kelliex lil min insaqsi, ma stajt najd xejn. Wara jumejn tawili, tistaw tahsbu f liema stat kienet!! alluwra nifem li kif ahna ghandna in numbers fejn trid iccempel biex iddahal huta, ghandu jkolna numbers fejn incemplu al ghajnuna ad dilettanti bhalna
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on July 02, 2014, 06:31:22 CET
tajba din tal accola Emicmalta ogbitni! Anqas jitwemnu dan l`affarijiet. U wara xqalulek li ma ksirtx il ligi billi qbatta allura?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: EmicMalta on July 02, 2014, 10:53:15 CET
Quote from: rednaell on July 02, 2014, 06:31:22 CET
tajba din tal accola Emicmalta ogbitni! Anqas jitwemnu dan l`affarijiet. U wara xqalulek li ma ksirtx il ligi billi qbatta allura?

wara sabu li ma kien hemm ebda ligi tajd hekk, imma il but tijaj huwa zejr u ma kienx li noqod nidhof fi spejjes ad danni. Jduwru mijek ammont ta nies li jibdew jsaqsu min kull naha biex jficxkluk, u xhin bdejt nsasijom biex juruni il ligi, dawruwli il kliem, pero minhabba li tkun wahdek jamlu bik li trid. alek nixtieq nkun naf lil min irridu nirreferu meta jigrilna xi haga simili
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: halop on July 02, 2014, 20:35:04 CET
din li qabel tohrog qrajta x imkien u jekk mhux sejjer zball anke jekk tohrog hu ma tkunx sejjer tistad ghalih la jkollok il permess
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on July 03, 2014, 14:13:10 CET
halop fuq il-permess ta din is-sena mhux qeda imnizla imma li trid tibatilom int u hiereg, tibatilom biss jekk taqbad xi wihed 4 sijat qabel tidhol.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on July 04, 2014, 06:23:34 CET
Quote from: Kevin G on July 03, 2014, 14:13:10 CET
halop fuq il-permess ta din is-sena mhux qeda imnizla imma li trid tibatilom int u hiereg, tibatilom biss jekk taqbad xi wihed 4 sijat qabel tidhol.


hekk tinftijam alijja, li tavza bis fkas li taqbat,  issa ghal haddiehor ma nafx kif jifima
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on July 04, 2014, 06:25:25 CET
sewwa.... gifiri ekk sas 7 ta filodu nkun amilt is sajda, ghandi sas 1 ta wara nofsinar nistenna lil tal fisheries ??? nilhqu nibdew niklu minnu t tonn hahahahahahahaha

mandix cooler kbira jien fej inqed wihed ta 50.... xnamel narmih da jekk jitlaq bis shana ?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on July 04, 2014, 07:33:11 CET
irregistraw xi qbid sissa? kif nistaw nkunu nafu?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on July 04, 2014, 09:00:52 CET
bigboy alekk tajjeb li tkun thobb is sushi hux lool
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: caldaland on July 13, 2014, 16:19:12 CET
Din sibta miktuba fuq il-website tal-federation.

"BFT Reported Catches as at 10th July 2014.
As at 10th July 2014,total Blue Fin Tuna reported caught with the Department of Fisheries amounted to 148.5 Kgs.

Besides it was highlighted by the Department that what is most disappointing is the fact that from the 16th June (date of opening) till to date, according to our records, only 7 boats made pre-departure notification. This behaviour may lead to measures restricting the applications for next year.

It is to be noted that the pre notification was a requisite before one could apply for a BFT Licence."
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on July 13, 2014, 16:36:55 CET
Ezatt, il fuck up tal fisheries because they forgot to include the sms clause in the final regualtions, now they are blaming us.  Gbajt, gbajt u gbajt
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: benri on July 13, 2014, 17:16:12 CET
No where on the licence is there stated that we have to inform fisheries prior to departure! Why are they expecting us to contact them? If they forgot to list this clause on the licence it's their fault and those responsible should answer for their actions and not come up with bloody excuses that it was a "pre-requisite"! All other important points and clauses are listed on the licence even though they too were a "pre-requisite". So fisheries get your act together and cut this bs!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: caldaland on July 13, 2014, 17:27:03 CET
100% correct Benri.......................
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: SteveGB on July 13, 2014, 17:54:46 CET
Jien meta cempilt ukoll staqsitni jekk ghamilt notification qabel ma hrigt....qedilha jien hrigt ghal alungi mhux ghat tonn....jigifieri kul meta nohrog nistad irid noqod nghid tal fisheries...bla sens ma nistax nifhem....
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on July 13, 2014, 18:25:19 CET
Sewwa qed tghid Steve.  Din kienet ivvintata wahda fil fisheries, ghax qalet la l-kummercjali javzaw qabel ma johorgu jistadu, allura id-dilettanti ghandhom jaghmlu hekk ukoll.  Li kien ghaliha din l-istess wahda, suppost dawk li johorgu ghat-tonn irrid ikollhom tracking device.  Miniex nirreferi ghal director General.  Hemm zewg nisa ohra hemm gew li minghalijom immexxu l-fisheries, u niddubita jekk jafux id-differenza bejn qasba u arblu ta' bqndiera
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on July 14, 2014, 20:22:02 CET
emm bzonn tigi icarat din is-stwazzjoni, irridu nibatu msg ahna u hergin  jew ma iridux nibatu msg?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: busumark on July 15, 2014, 05:29:57 CET
ghalxejn tigi icarata fuq dan l forum ax hafna nies li applikaw ma jidhlux fil forum u peress li fil permess ma hemmx miktub li trid tibat sms qabel tohrog dawn mhux ha jibatu sms. Din mandiex tintuza bhala skuza biex s sena d diehla jibdlu xi affarijit fuq l permess tat tonn
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on July 15, 2014, 05:37:52 CET
Quote from: Kevin G on July 14, 2014, 20:22:02 CET
emm bzonn tigi icarat din is-stwazzjoni, irridu nibatu msg ahna u hergin  jew ma iridux nibatu msg?
Tridu tibghatu msg qabel tohorgu. Tpaxxux nies, ghamlu li hemm bzonn.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: EmicMalta on July 15, 2014, 06:26:17 CET
jiena ghalek saqsejt jek hemx xi persuna inkarigata li jaraf id drittijeit taghna. Jista jkun persuna normali jew avukat li jaf id drittijiet taghna, ghax meta jigri xi haga il kliem jibda jinbidel skond x jaqbel. Li gara lil Steave hija prova cara dak li qed najd.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: skip on July 15, 2014, 06:31:40 CET
The BFT regulations published on the 27th March 2014 directly mentioned the need to advise DFA before leaving port. I was unaware of this and as I applied like many of you via JoJo from the Federation I asked for clarification and he kindly provided the information.

You are right in saying it was left off the actual permit, but it did form part of the application requirements. Will upload in a moment.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on July 15, 2014, 07:15:52 CET
On which number do we need to report before going out fishing?
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: skip on July 15, 2014, 07:18:49 CET
5. All authorised recreational fishing vessels have to notify the Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture (DFA) before leaving the port and before returning to port at least 2 hours before arriving.

The pre-notification can be made by sending an SMS on 99674933 or by calling the DFAs free-phone on 80072240.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: shanook on July 15, 2014, 07:57:12 CET
is the free phone applicable to mobile???
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: EmicMalta on July 15, 2014, 08:24:22 CET
13. The fishing line used by the authorised vessels cannot be thicker than 160mm during the season

so what does this stand for???
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on July 15, 2014, 08:26:03 CET
Quote from: shanook on July 15, 2014, 07:57:12 CET
is the free phone applicable to mobile???

No..... when I called I got the usual annoying pre-recorded voice from my service provider noting that this call is not free...
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bigboy on July 15, 2014, 09:01:09 CET
MELA APPARTI D DIESEL U L LISKA ISSA GHANDNA T TELEFORNATA XI NHALSU UKOLL LOL
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: ganni on July 15, 2014, 09:02:12 CET
Thanks Skip
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on July 15, 2014, 09:07:16 CET
Quote from: skip on July 15, 2014, 07:18:49 CET
5. All authorised recreational fishing vessels have to notify the Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture (DFA) before leaving the port and before returning to port at least 2 hours before arriving.

The pre-notification can be made by sending an SMS on 99674933 or by calling the DFAs free-phone on 80072240.

Thank you Skip
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: skip on July 15, 2014, 09:10:26 CET
Quote from: bigboy on July 15, 2014, 09:01:09 CET
MELA APPARTI D DIESEL U L LISKA ISSA GHANDNA T TELEFORNATA XI NHALSU UKOLL LOL

Send an SMS guys, it's cheaper and if you have x number of free SMS's from your service provider you can keep those for these notifications!!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on July 15, 2014, 09:24:25 CET
Quote from: skip on July 15, 2014, 09:10:26 CET
Quote from: bigboy on July 15, 2014, 09:01:09 CET
MELA APPARTI D DIESEL U L LISKA ISSA GHANDNA T TELEFORNATA XI NHALSU UKOLL LOL

Send an SMS guys, it's cheaper and if you have x number of free SMS's from your service provider you can keep those for these notifications!!

I would send an SMS guys. If something happens, you have a tangible proof that you did advise them.

A call might be not logged, forgotten or otherwise and likely you may not be able to prove it.

Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: fisheye on July 15, 2014, 10:30:48 CET
You also have to call again on your way back or else you will be listed as if you have not returned to port.
first time I went out I called on my way out but since I had no catches I did not called on my way back to port, after 2 days I received a  call on my mobile from fisheries asking me if I returned home. The guy on the phone said that I can report on that same number every time I go fishing as a safety measure.  
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: skip on July 23, 2014, 07:02:06 CET
Send an SMS guys! Just received a phone call 5 days later from Fisheries saying I had not informed them that I returned and I was obliged to do so.

I informed the officer that I sent an SMS 1 hour before arriving back but he kept telling me what the procedure was rather than listen to what I was saying. Eventually he admitted that perhaps it was due to a shift change!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on July 24, 2014, 07:52:47 CET
Hi Skip, The same was for me yesterday. Although I informed them by Sms that I was returning back, an official still phoned and told me to inform them when returning back!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on August 04, 2014, 11:44:27 CET
To whom it may concern; the quota for the landing of Bluefin Tuna for recreational fishermen has now been reached.  The season is now closed.
_______________________________________________________________

Dr. Carabott Damato u Sur Baldacchino,

Il-Kwota Rikreazzjonali tat-tonn giet milħuqa. Għaldaqstant id- Dipartiment tas-Sajd u l-Akkwakultura qiegħed javża li l-istaġun tas-sajd rikreazzjonali ser jingħalaq minn nofs il-lejl tal-5 ta' Awissu, 2014.

Għaldaqstant dawk liċenzjati mitluba li jirritornaw il-Permess Speċjali tat-Tonn Rikreazzjonali, sa mhux aktar tard mid-29 ta' Awissu, 2014. Dawn jistgħu jittieħdu pesonalment fid-Dipartiment tas-Sajd u l-Akkwakultura jew billi jintbagħtu fl-indirizz muri hawn taħt, bil-posta reġistrata.

Dipartiment tas-Sajd u l-Akkwakultura
Għammieri
Marsa
Att. Lucienne Cassar

F'każ li l-permess jintbgħat bil-posta reġistrata, huwa importanti li tinżamm l-irċevuta maħruġa mill-posta bħala xhieda ta' dan.

Id-Dipartiment jirringrazzja lill-persuni konċernati tal-kooperazjoni tagħhom.

Fil-granet li gejjin dan l-istess avviz ser joħrog fil-media kif ukoll ser jintbgħat lill-applikanti kollha. 

Tislijiet,


Susan Portelli
Senior Manager
Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture - Fisheries Management Unit


t: +356 22921259 e: susan.a.portelli@gov.mt | www.environment.gov.mt
MINISTRY FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, THE ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE CHANGE
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Government Farm Ghammieri,
MARSA, MALTA
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on August 11, 2014, 12:40:35 CET
Further to the email i posted, i have received this from the fisheries dept.  Fisheries are claiming that BFT catches have continued to take place even after the season was closed.  More worrying is the fact that an amount of BfT that are caught are not registered.  It seems the authorities are using us as bait to enforce the law....how typical.....

Għeżież Kooperattivi u Assoċjazzjonijiet,

Id-Dipartiment tas-Sajd u l-Akkwakultura jixtieq jinfurmakom li qed jinstagħbu diversi qabdiet ta' tonn illegali madwar il-fish farms. Skond il-liġi, it-tonn kollu li jinqabad irid jiġi rreġistrat u mnaqqas mill-kwota nazzjonali ta' Malta.

L-ammont ta' kwota li baqa din is-sena huwa limitat ħafna u jekk Malta taqbeż il-kwota nazzjonali, l-ammont li biħ tinqabez il-kwota stabbilita ser jitnaqqas mill-kwota ta' Malta tas-sena 2015. Dan iwassal għal effett negattiv għal kulħadd.

Nistenna l-koperazjoni ta kulhadd.

Grazzi.

Susan Portelli
Senior Manager
Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture - Fisheries Management Unit


t: +356 22921259 e: susan.a.portelli@gov.mt | www.environment.gov.mt
MINISTRY FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, THE ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE CHANGE
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Government Farm Ghammieri,
MARSA, MALTA
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on August 11, 2014, 12:51:26 CET
Gejja taghna, habba qabda nies irresponsabli, memberi u mhux membri, il kwota tas sena d-diehla qeda fil periklu li titnaqqas.  Qed nara l-istess pantomima bhal tal-kaccatturi din.  Habba li xi individwi kif qed jallegaw tal fisheries baqu jistadu ghat tonn mal fishfarms, ser jehel kullhadd.  F'idejkhom!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: fisheye on August 11, 2014, 15:05:15 CET
U xqed jistennew l-awtoritajiet biex jaghmlu xogholhom u jmorru jaqbdu lil dawn l-individwi u jiehdu kontrihom il-proceduri kolla li tippermeti il-ligi.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: The_Gaffer on August 11, 2014, 16:12:29 CET
Mistoqsija f'waqta. 
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: caldaland on August 11, 2014, 16:22:19 CET
trick ohra tal-kummercjali..................prosit tassew!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on August 11, 2014, 19:22:24 CET
JIENMINIX KACCATUR IMMA DIN IL HAGA ILNI NXOMMA MINN META BDEW JAJTU BIR REFERENDUM KONTRA KACCA... GHADA PITADA AHNA JMISS KULHADD KONTRINA U FLOK BIRDLIFE IL FISHERIES!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: caldaland on August 11, 2014, 19:26:41 CET
Il-kwistjoni taghna hija differenti hafna min tal-kaccaturi............il-fisheries qed tipprova tkissirna biex igawdu l-kummercjali,ghax ghal certu rjus hekk jaqbel.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: bonell on August 11, 2014, 19:30:53 CET
anzi ghar taghna ghax issa jibdew jgheddu lil gvern ghax qed infottulom il hobza ta kuljum u ha noqtluhom bil guh etc etc
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: caldaland on August 11, 2014, 19:31:53 CET
Il-fisheries immexxija minhom.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: halop on August 11, 2014, 20:04:11 CET
mela sewwa qal il halop
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: EmicMalta on August 11, 2014, 20:26:58 CET
u min qal li dawn it tonn kinu maqbuda mid dilettanti??? jien l ewwel wiehed, aplikajt al permess u ma mortc darba ax kif kien il permess, ma kinx car qas xejn u nemmen li ma konc wahdi.

Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Granitu on August 11, 2014, 22:52:22 CET
Quote from: EmicMalta on August 11, 2014, 20:26:58 CET
u min qal li dawn it tonn kinu maqbuda mid dilettanti??? jien l ewwel wiehed, aplikajt al permess u ma mortc darba ax kif kien il permess, ma kinx car qas xejn u nemmen li ma konc wahdi.



dalodu ma ta delimara 6 mfb u 3 mfa kin emm at tonn. Dejjem l istess nies u kulhadd jaf bihom.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: busumark on August 12, 2014, 05:25:30 CET
jien mort as sawrell bir rixa mal fishfarm t tlieta li ghaddew u l kwota kienet ghalqet. wara ftit gew l pulizija u bdew iwaqqfu l kulhadd biex jaraw x ghandhom.  gew fuqi u qaluli al xix qed nistad u ghidtilhom as sawrell. saqsewni ghandix kavalli jew xolfa hoxnin u li kienu ha ifitxxu fid dajsa. fitxxew ftit u qaluli kollox sew. anke l bottijit li kien hemm imazrati fil qrib bdew jiccekjaw.  kif ga qalu qabel hawn imma kien hemm mfb  fuq gewwa mal gageg imma ma nafx kienux as sawrell.  U forsi tista tkun icarata MFA jew MFB jisatw jisatadu at tonn meta l kwota tal kummercjali tkun spiccat u ikun ghad fadal biss tad delettanti ax kien ikun hemm hafna minn dawn
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: baghira on August 12, 2014, 09:03:54 CET
Jien iehor.. applikajt u ma mortx qas darba ghalih
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Icom on August 12, 2014, 09:33:59 CET
Jien l-istess, l-aqnas darba ma mort!
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: rednaell on August 13, 2014, 07:03:02 CET
Das sajf vera disastru kien alija. mlejt hafna rasi biex forsi naqbat zewg hutiet u vera mort hazin. nfaqt hafna flus biex mort darbtejn at ton u nistad kif sippost imma il hut min kien qed jisttad illegalment qabdu u ma jhallulekx cans taqbat anqas wahda! Hawn malta tal micki mouse sewa jejdu. Daqsek sajd issa aqas ghal hut iehor , ahjar lahar ftit granet tal l`istagun nqattaw ma familja il hofriet milli tmur tistad ghax vera tinharaq tara dan l`affarijiet.
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: EmicMalta on August 13, 2014, 07:10:51 CET
Quote from: rednaell on August 13, 2014, 07:03:02 CET
Das sajf vera disastru kien alija. mlejt hafna rasi biex forsi naqbat zewg hutiet u vera mort hazin. nfaqt hafna flus biex mort darbtejn at ton u nistad kif sippost imma il hut min kien qed jisttad illegalment qabdu u ma jhallulekx cans taqbat anqas wahda! Hawn malta tal micki mouse sewa jejdu. Daqsek sajd issa aqas ghal hut iehor , ahjar lahar ftit granet tal l`istagun nqattaw ma familja il hofriet milli tmur tistad ghax vera tinharaq tara dan l`affarijiet.

ma jfissirx li billi imlewlek hafna rasek li se taqbad il hut, u int ma qbadtc, sinjal li ma hemx hut. Jien l ewel wiehed li in is sena ma mortc darba at tonn, u nassigurak li tonn kien u ghad awn b sahha kbira. Jien aplikajt al permess just biex meta jasal certu zmien tas sena, nkun nista nowm alieh bil harpoon, pero il kwota inalqet u alluwra ma mortc. Bis sunnara ghazilt li ma nohrog ax il ligijiet ma kienu xejn cari.

Pero naf min mar u missewh 5 f gurnata u sfortunatament ma gabx 1 din is sena. Nahseb li xi haga kellek hazin.

Fuq tal hofriet, sew qed tajd siehbi, hin is sajd ghandu jkun hemm u hin al familja ghandu jkun hemm ukoll
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on November 10, 2014, 18:45:04 CET
http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/national/45953/malta_certified_fully_compliant_with_iccat_bluefin_tuna_recommendations#.VF5IC6DwEDc.facebook   Lets hope that we will be applying for a better licence next May :)
Title: Re: 2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn
Post by: Kevin G on November 22, 2014, 19:10:20 CET
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20141122/local/tuna-quotas-up-by-20.545111