Humminbird 700 series

Spirit of Jason · November 17, 2009, 19:10:06 CET

So what your saying is I have just wasted €1050.

Russ

Spirit of Jason · November 17, 2009, 19:20:56 CET

The guy in Camilleri, sorry about the spelling, Gzira, the owner I think, nice guy with a beard, asked me what boat I had, I told him, he said that the transducer mounted on the transom, would give me depths of at least 500metres, that was the main reason I bought the unit.

robby017 · November 17, 2009, 19:24:24 CET

500 meters i believe is not enough....... some guys i know go fish in 700-800m as well with very satisfying results!!! It depends what you are after then!

busumark · November 17, 2009, 19:50:57 CET

@ SOJ if you bought it from malta go and tell him to change the transducer from 83/200 to 50/200. tell him the 83/200 is not good for sea water. in 500 meters you caught fish and i think that you said that you bought the miya x4 eletric reel so its good for those depths because its not good for fishing in 700 - 800 metres. its the second time that someone wrote here that he bought a fishfinder from malta and they gave him a 83/200 transducer

skip · November 17, 2009, 21:54:32 CET

83KHz looks good in fresh and brackish water, but does not perform as well as 200Khz in salt water.
(Found that on a site)

Also think I got the cone angles back to front, seems that 200Khz is around 20 degrees whereas 50Khz is around 35 Degrees, and 83Khz around 60 degrees

This might help a bit: http://www.lei-extras.com/tips/transducer/default.asp

Humminbird's DualFrequency Plus sonar system doesn't seem to use 50Khz anymore, not sure why. http://store.humminbird.com/search?q=XNT+9+20+T&t=products

At this stage I would suggest sending Humminbird an email directly and explain that you will be using the unit in Saltwater in the Med and that you're looking for depths up to 700-800m

Spirit of Jason · November 17, 2009, 22:00:29 CET

According to the idiots guide for the 700 series the cone angle is 60 degrees

skip · November 17, 2009, 22:03:47 CET

Just ammended my post above

Spirit of Jason · November 17, 2009, 22:45:43 CET

Thanks for the link to Humminbird my transducer is the XNT 9 20 T

EmicMalta · April 08, 2011, 11:21:16 CET

SOJ, how are you with the Humminbird? And how is you setup?

Tks
Edward

Spirit of Jason · April 10, 2011, 17:57:35 CET

Hi Edward
Not too technical myself mate, but I have the transponder attached on the right hand side of the transum, the fishfinder works very well but only up to speeds of around 5-6 knots, which I believe is about right, I have not been in any water deeper than 100 metres as yet but it works fine, but I could not tell you yet, as to the maximum depth the Humminbird works well too.
The GPS and mapping are very good indeed and the maps are clear and precise, although I did have to buy a sim card covering Maltese waters, I think that cost me around €120.
This is the first time I have used a fish finder and GPS system, because I am new to boating,
/fishing but I am very satisfied with the Humminbird system.
I hope this information is something like you, wanted to hear.
Happy Fishing

Russell

EmicMalta · April 10, 2011, 21:08:33 CET

Tks Russell,

Yes I went to Camilleri Marine and saw the Humminbird and they look really nice products, but as you know some technical detail they don t even mention it, much more this thing of the 83/200 transducer, and it s not nice knowing that after spending good money. The best thing is that tommorrow I go and check again.

Checked in their web (Humminbird) but as I can see, all the combo s come out with a 83/200 transducer.

Also in the meantime I send an e mail to Humminbird USA asking for their opinion. Their 1st mail was answerd by putting a 50/200 transducer.

Also there is the option of 3D where only the Humminbird and the Hds siries can do it. The difference is that the Humminbird gives deeper 3D readings by changing the transducer and lowrence does not.

mcewan97 · April 23, 2011, 09:37:07 CET

If you are after the 1000 ft - 1500 ft region then an 83khz is fine. a marked 1500ft you would be able to see clearly 1200ft. On another note 83khz is not only meant for fresh water only. its also meant for salt water. please visit this link which is technicalities made easy namely ehow

http://www.ehow.com/way_5332277_fishfinder-depth-sounding-sonar-tips.html

Depth reading is factored by the following, Power (not peak to peak) could be misleading and frequency. The deeper you go the bigger the power and lower the frequency. Frequency and power are inversely proportionate.

83 / 200 is the most widely sold transducer all over Europe for cost reasons and it is used by all the major fishfinder brands humminbird being one of them.

Ken Camilleri of Camilleri Marine
P.S thanks for the nice compliment re nice guy with the beard.

Spirit of Jason · April 23, 2011, 13:08:10 CET

Hiya Ken
You are welcome my friend (nice guy with a beard).
May I also tell other members of the forum that, yourself and your staff made Marie and myself feel very welcome, you gave us very good advise, because we are new to fishing/boating and it may have seemed to you we were asking silly questions.
Above all you did not pressure us into, buying anything.

In the words of General McArthur.... I shall Return....

Russ

skip · April 23, 2011, 15:08:51 CET

Hi Ken, thanks for the clarification. So the 83/200Hz is good up to around 365m?

What options are available if one was looking for greater depth penetration to say 500-600m