Fibre Fishing Boat - 22-26 ft

[Shaftbomb]

It is a 24ft Petecraft boat.  I know the boat in Gozo and I'm 200% sure about this.

[shanook]

@shaftbomb.....so u know better than the owner of the boat as he put it down as 'tar ratal'

[Shaftbomb]

@Shanook - no I do not know more than the owner of the boat. 
I'm not going to enter into the forum problem zone by saying who built the boat.  I know who built the boat and besides I have no commission from the sale.  I was just trying to help the chap who started the topic. 
We gozitans sometimes get misunderstood by how we describe things.  And this might apply for the item description on maltapark.  For example a gozitan fisherman rarely says that he leaves his boat at imgarr,  but says "inhalliha x-xatt" which basically means the same.  Also while chatting  at "ix-xatt" on boats we say " that boat was built by Peter tar-ratal" which for us means the same as Petecraft.

[shanook]

ah sorry mate I dont speak Gozitan.....its all yours.

[Shaftbomb]

I concur that gozitan can be difficult for some to speak or understand.....

[nivram017]

Any one knows how much will it cost you to service/ yearly maintenance of an outdrive on volvo penta. I came across a nice boat with twin volvo penta KAD 32 inboards having outdrives but I have heard that they will cost quite a lot to maintain every two years ..... is this true and if yes any idea how much it costs?..... I'm still unsure which boat and engine setup is best for me. It seems that for the moment i will keep on using our trustworthy luzzu! even though a little slow but at least very economical and engine maintenance quite reasonable!

[yogi]

the service  expense can be up to 2k inc parts . volvo parts a a bit expensive .. kad 32 is fine but super charger is noisy at low rev betwen 1800 to 2300rpm then takes on the turbo .. depends in exp if u live the boat at sea all year , it depends from the client ezempiu if  service for u is just a oil change and bellows change its no exp

[skip]

I once read an article commenting on maintenance costs and suitability:

Stern Drives/Z-Drives are expensive to maintain and are ideally suited for 60-70 hours max a season.

Outboards can run you up to 90-100 hours per season.

100+ and shafts are the way forward.

So alot depends on how much you intend to use the boat.

[nivram017]

Actually I tend to prefer shafts but it seems that certain international manufacturers rarely make shaft driven boats. My main intention as I said before is to have a boat which can be used both for fishing and for pleasure and was looking for something between 22 and 29 ft max. Actually I came across a Sealine S28 which although it is more suitable as a pleasure boat however by some modifications and provision of covers for the back seats may also serve my fishing needs (although not as appropriate). With the twin Volvo setup (D3 or KAD 32) it gives a cruising speed of 20 - 24 knts and top speed of c 36knts If I am corect.

@ yogi when u say oil change and bellows change its no exp how much espensive?  Apart from maintenance costs I still have to check fuel consumption. Anyone has any idea? Thanks.

[nivram017]

freedive he said 60 - 70 hours for stern drives (z/outdrives) not for shafts. In my opinion shaft drives run practically wiithout maintenance

[Moonwalker]

My outboard runs on average once every 2 weeks for about 15hrs each - 4-6hrs at about 5krpm and the others dead slow. So I do about 350hrs every year. I service the motor every 100- 150 hrs.
So what does it mean that outboards can do only 100hrs per season?

[skip]

Don't take everything so verbatim guys!!

It means they are guidelines (at least whomever wrote this article) before you can expect maintenance intervals and costs to start to increase. If you do typical annual maintenance, at the time of that article the author felt that those are the kind of hours you can expect without higher maintenance bills or additional services.

@Moonwalker, just curious but how much do you normally spend when you service your Suzuki Outboard? Have you changed timing belts yet, had valves adjusted and the other 4 stroke related extra things that need to be done yet?? Out of curiousity what was the problem last time when you stopped, fuel?

My experiences with Z-Drives tally up to those hours, after which Gimbal bearings, shift cable hoses, bellows, etc etc start giving problems and parts are not cheap. I might add I now hate Z-Drives with a vengance unless purely recreational.

[shanook]

I do not even consider Z drives..........outboards are ok speed and torque in a small engine, easy to maintain and not too costly....Shafts well there are shafts and shafts....if its a marine engine of known Brands it will be a lot more expensive than a converted car engine.
Its true a car engine is not as sturdy as a marine engine but you can use them for 10years and then just replace with second hand ones ..cost maybe 400 euros each engine.........
For reliability and economy then shafts are the way to go....
Speeds well it all depends as to what you want to spend.. the bigger the engine the more fuel u will use.
the only thing that is against shafts is the weight to power ratio......but I like a heavy boat always said it and i stand by it. So for me having 2 heavy weights in the centre of the boat makes it more stable especially with fiberglass.
Those who are used to wooden boats know what i mean...when the boat is launched it behaves like a bucking bronco when it soaks and gets heavy with water then it settles down and moves better.

[malvizzu]

So what does it mean that outboards can do only 100hrs per season?

Definitely not all outboards do 100hrs per season. The Evinrude ETECs will go either 300 hours or 3 years before the first service. That's one of the biggest advantages I considered before purchasing mine.

[skip]

Kevin, just bear in mind to read the fine print carefully about the 300hr/3 year claim. Look at the part in particular that talks about using the boat in Seawater, and especially when you use it for fishing.

Then what you are advised to do is a bit different