Decision that was taken and is in effect on Maltese/English.

[Perla 165]

Ok skip :/ sorry for any "trouble " or something coust by me . I will try to coperate. Notice for every one as "member" do the topics in Maltese hehe . Thanks

[ramio]

HI guys,To have somone just translating everything is asking too much. My idea is to have somone asigned to an english posted topic and translate those posts that cannot be posted in the original language. As I see it when a topic is started in english, usually all reply back in same language. So really there isn't much to translate. I havn't a lot of free time, but half an hour to go trough the new posts, I always find. Just give me a thread, and I'll take care to translate any post from anyone who "REALLY" finds it difficult to write in engish. All they need to do is ask at the end of their maltese answer for me (or somone else) to translate. Any other volontiers ??
As experience shows in the past, most of us already respected the original language, even when the rules  weren't yet introduced. In the heat of the arguments and with the entusiasm, we tend to deviate without knowing. All we need is to correct and continue. So many members have contributed with their teaching, and we all learned.
Its fantastic to see so many people from all over the world showing interest in our little island, should make us all proud. So just a bit of respect for them won't hurt. Keep the forum alive guys, We are all doing a good job.

[bigboy]

I agree with you ramio. I am willing to help out aswell but then people shoud not take us forgranted and post only in maltese.

Although i prefer posting in maltese, i am able to write well in english aswell.

[mike.d.]

well said, ramio, thank you.
                       mike.d.

[EmicMalta]

this shoudn t be pointing hands to any member, but lets help each other. Here I spend a lot of time, and sometimes i give places to guys I never meet them, some of them they just meet me up and ask me if Im one from the forum cos they see a pic from the catches. I dont care to giv eplaces to memebers from this forum as I know from their posts what type of fishermen they are.

I go spearfishing as for a hobby and take guys with me so that they can learn from what I know and I do the same from them. Thanks to this forum we meet and give our dayly catch due to this forum.

At the  moment arti2 is catching octopus and he shows them without regrets, im doing seabreams and do the same, when there was bcudas i done the same.... and finaly who goes good? every one in this forum, even shops cos we buy staff from them. All these problems had arased from a small topic, who wantsa to do it in english and who wants to do it in maltese. Even I used to write in maltes but as from I noticed that Nick and Benri where getting out from the topics, I tried to write my replies in english. Infact one day I had a pm from Benri thanking me cos I asked someone to reply in english where possible (where they doesn t took care for what I asked) couldn t say noting cos im just a memeber like every one here, but personally where I spend a lot of hrs trying to help i looked at it in a wrong way

Pls let help each other and every one make his effort

[placebo]

i offer help if u like

[skip]

Guys thanks for your offers. Hopefully most can manage to translate their own posts within the few topics that started in English but some replies were in Maltese, and if they need help you guys are kindly offering which is very nice.

I had ammended to say that only replies from 17th 9am need to be changed to try and cut down and the hassle for those members that have posted, and also because the official newsletter was sent out on the 16th in the evening.

I fully support having topics started in Maltese, they generate alot of interest even if I am unable to contribute back, I can still ask colleagues who are fluent in Maltese to let me know what's going on. But I also think it's important to have a good mix and balance of English and Maltese posts to create the biggest audience.

I don't have alot of spare time on my hands as I imagine neither do Ramio, bigboy, emic and placebo who have offered to help out here, so for the time being NO posts will be deleted next week so that we can try and keep all the replies intact which keeps the discussion going, and there will be plenty of time to translate.

HOWEVER, it would be disrespectful to all if new replies continue in the wrong language in these threads given that most people have read this discussion and after the newsletter being sent to everyone.

To the guys that have offered to help I will see what I can do to move you into a special access group that has right's to modify posts and will revert back.

Thanks again.
Skip

[LapsiBoy]

Skip If you need i would love to give a helping hand.

[Gazzetta]

Skip If you need i would love to give a helping hand.

Same here !!

Chris

[ramio]

Well done to all who offered as translators. I'm sure that there won't be anyone who will abbuse of our help. What I suggest Skip, that when we translate future posts, we leave the original and just add the translation underneat. The autor of the post will start his post by asking for help to translate. This will make it easier for us.
And listen guys, this isn't an english lesson, so even if you are not very fluent in english, and write so-so, just go on do it, members will still get your point. Good luck.

Skip I will be needing your help to show me how to navicate through the posts to actually do the translation.

[fishfinder]

Hi Skip,

If need be I can help aswell. I'm not perfect but everyone will surely understand my translations and if need be I can translate Italian aswell for our Italian friends.

[skip]

I have received an email from a member complaining about this decision and I have taken the time to reply to him. One of his points was that he didn't think it was fair that topics started in English had to stay in English and yet a topic started in Maltese could be replied in Maltese and English, even though clearly the topic starter prefers Maltese.

I will admit the guy has a point that warranted due consideration, and as we now have a team of moderators here to assist us with translations, perhaps we can establish the following:

In a Maltese topic if someone posts in English, put (Please translate at the beginging) and a moderator will modify his post and add the Maltese translation above it, with the words (Translation) in brackets at the end. There might be some like myself who can just about read Maltese with difficulty but are not capable of writing it, and that way they can still contribute.

Likewise if someone can read English but doesn't feel they can write back, then please put (Please translate) at the begining and reply in Maltese. That way one of the forum moderators can add the English translation above.

In this way we can allow everyone to contribute and not be left excluded, although as we're all busy people, it may take some time for forum moderators to get to your post and translate it.

I will be sending this post to all the moderators so that they are aware, but may I remind everyone that like myself, we are not paid and are dedicating our time out of our own goodwill for the benefit of all.

Currently the forum moderators are:

Senior Moderators:

SimonG
Ramio
The_Gaffer
Shanook

Junior Moderators:

bigboy
fishfinder
Gazzetta
placebo.

[placebo]

good one skip....and the forum will never die my friend!

the idea of this forum is one of the most ever brilliant things that happened in the life of fishing in Malta so go on my friend... we will support you throughout and will never give up!

[skip]

thanks for the kind words adrian

[camkev]

Well done guy.Keep up your good work.