this is a must for most trolling fanatics
there are a few available on internet
not many available locally
i have a trick which works well
a plastic box (sized to suit your boat )
a 12 volt water pump (available from most marine suppliers )
what you do is place the box on the back end of the boat
have a flexible pipe fixed to the box side about 3/4 of the way up from the bottom
the pipe is on overflow
have the 12 volt pump situated on the lid with one end in the box and the other in the sea behind the boat.
This works well both when you are moving and when you are stopped
it can also be used to leave a burly or scent trail behind the boat
good luck if you have any other ideas or suggestions let me know!
Interesting post. I was searching for something small and not expensive for my 14 footer and this seems to be a good idea.
Make sure that the pump is not a high volume pump. the idea is to have fresh oxygenated water not to cause a Niagara falls or a rapid. Also try to get a container that doesnt let light in, the darker (i dont mean painted black) it is the better.
been there done it LOL
:) Thanks Tony will keep it in mind. Why does the container need to be light free?
so that the fish remain calm and less heat transfer to the water
As regards calmness it may be the case, but cannot understand how there is less heat transfer to the water. It has always been a fact that dark material or objects, example a dark T-shirt, absorbes more heat. So???!!!!
Should be painted with a heavy coat,silver or white from the outside.
whoever said dark as Black..... as a matter of fact i wrote QUOTE ''a container that doesnot let light in, the darker (i dont mean painted black) the better'' UNQUOTE.
If it is white, silver or whatever as long as it does not let light in then the water inside doesnt heat up. It can be silver on the outside but if light still penetrates then the water heats up since it is an enclosed small space. KAPIX
Kapix kapix ;D thanks
sorry what is kapix lol :)
tpixxi bil-kappell!
taljan Malti
''fhimt'' bin Naplitan u miktuba bil Malti LOL
Quote from: shanook on February 22, 2013, 12:37:27 CET
so that the fish remain calm and less heat transfer to the water
I would make more sure that you have a ventilated lid - for the overflow function to work the tank has to have access to air.
Shanook is 100% correct on this although it is not that much of an issue if you will have a continuos recycle of water. If you have squid, no matter what tank, you need a continous recycle. Mullet on the other hand needs no water change, just aeration plus I have managed to keep mullet in fresh water - (It is possible, YES). Mullet and cuttlefish as a bait are the hardest to wear out. The worst in my opinion is Garfish (it does not die in the tank, but when fishing it only lives max for 3-4hrs (although most of the time we do get it hunted 8)). Squid is ok - the way in the middle
On my boat, I fitted a transistor switch that I can regulate the intermittance of the pump. This saves on the strain on battery life although not an issue to me - but can be for other boats
Also, for water pumps the 360gph or 500gph (I would use this bilge pump as you have a lift of approx 1m and the better the flow are perfect) - The best trick I found is that you have a pipe that deviates the inflow. At the same time you oxegenate the water, just like it happens in home aquariums.
Naturally, you have to adapt the overflow as necessary. Personally, I utilise the Blue plastic tanks used for longlines - Always did the trick and the bait remains alive. Their biggest advantage over coolers is that they take less horizontal space, the overflow function works very neatly and you would experience little spills in rough seas. Also, I get them for free.
Their disadvantage is that if you have some cuttle fish as bait they sit on the bottom and can be a little messy to get them up he he...
As Granitu rightly stated,those blue plastic tanks,do have advantages, but unfortunately,they have one big disadvantage.
The surface area,for gas exchange is somewhat limited compared with flatter tanks,and so,holding less fish in comparision.There are ways to compensate but too complicated to explain here.
[CARBON DIOXIDE TO OXYGEN}.
i have found a way around that cal and not as difficult you may think. use the round tanks. besides for live baiting you only need 7-8 fish. garish may be a problem but again i have a way i d
it is not difficult at all. but it is complicated to explain in writing {for me}.all one needs is a bit of current at the bottom {carbon dioxide stays at the bottom} to lift the gas upwards,and some turbulance at the surface to increase the surface area and facilitate the gaseous exchange with oxygen. for trolling with livebait,all one needs is something to handle a dozen fish,but if one is fishing a longline of 200 hooks with livebait,one needs a better set-up. in that case,oxygen and low tempretures {the colder the water,the more oxygen it holds}become imperative.
jien nhob nistad ghal tal qieh bid dajsa. nxtieq inkun naf jekk tistax taghlef . jien ma nkunx go hafna fond
@ Granitu & Caldaland - thanks for the updates and info. Alas I cannot use the blue tanks as I only have a 14 footer and there is just enough space for me and my father with some fishing gear let alone a blue tank :) I have to adapt to something smaller.
Quote from: caldaland on February 23, 2013, 14:24:07 CET
it is not difficult at all. but it is complicated to explain in writing {for me}.all one needs is a bit of current at the bottom {carbon dioxide stays at the bottom} to lift the gas upwards,and some turbulance at the surface to increase the surface area and facilitate the gaseous exchange with oxygen. for trolling with livebait,all one needs is something to handle a dozen fish,but if one is fishing a longline of 200 hooks with livebait,one needs a better set-up. in that case,oxygen and low tempretures {the colder the water,the more oxygen it holds}become imperative.
you know your stuff on this caldaland.
malvizzu, the blue tank i use i used to use it on a 13 footer!!!! you cannot go small
lol thanks granitu.
small tank = dead bait fish malvizz
fresh dead baitfish=denci ta 5kg??
Wouldn't be bad at all catching a 5kg denci :)
On my previous 13ft frejgatina I had more space as I had no central console and front seats but with my present boat, space is more restricted due to above mentioned
Malvizzu, For sure you do not have a lot of horizontal space available, But I am pretty sure you have quite alot of vertical Space available ;)
And it is not that easy to catch a dentex - the good spots are often the ones where its easy to get stuck.
I suggest you start trying on amberjack and little by little move to bottom dwellers. Bottom trolling can be frustrating especially if you get stuck. (albeit there are ways to reduce this). Also, do not overdo, start with one rod as managing two rods is no simple task (apart that there is a thing you have to do to work 2 rods. It better to fish with 1 rod well than try to fish with 2 rods unsuccessfully.
By experience I have found out some tricks - And i have learned that detail most of the time is the difference between success and fail.
Albeit fascinating, this type of fishing is physically draining (you have to keep the bait alive, sometimes you have to stay out at sea all night to fish the morning) - when the fishing is bad, it is really frustrating.
Therefore, if you are going trolling with live bait, go as lightest as possible in terms of equipment to have space around and more importantly don't go by yourself so that you can do some shifts between each other.
Believe it or not, your fregatina was more suited to this type of fishing ;)
Thanks Granitu for your advices. I am a total novice in this type of fishing and so I'm ready for an amount of 'kazzati' before i master the technique :) I would definitely start with 1 rod. I have enough trouble getting tangled sometimes whilst hand-trolling with 2 people ;D
Yes my old frejgatina had more space but had it's drawbacks as well - rolling a lot in the slightest swell, very slow with a 9.9 HP, could not plain well even with hydrofoils on engine, but nonetheless, I enjoyed her a lot and gave me some good fishing for 7 years.
sorry this is out of context
@malvizzu:
when u troll with 2 lines (hand or rod) try to have 2 straight runners that way u never tangle. Dont do sharp turns and try to keep the hands or rods at the same angle as much as possible. Be careful when it is windy, keep ur hands or rods low close to water surface.
If u have one lure that dives or has a weight then the other should be a straight runner without weight. Always turn on the one with weight or that dives and NO sharp turns. Keep them them approx the same distance out.
make sure that the boat speed is adequate for the lure u are using and that it is swimming right. Deep divers have a speed limit.
Yes granitu is right regarding trolling for bottom fish its not that easy and places are kept very hush hush.
try to get granitu to show u how to rig fish or klamari for trolling. Also how to use weights (either with elastic or the clip on ones. I am sure he will love to share the experience.
He will love to share his experiance... hahahahahahahahahahahah tajba din shanookk......
hahahahahahah
Jien qazzuni kulhadd jigi mieghi biex jurini x qed naghmel hazin..... :-) Halluni ta''' Issa Daqshekk.... UZGUUUUUUUUUUUUR
Malvizz lesti ghaz zkuk ghax hadd ma hu ser jghidlek dak li hu tghallem wara balla hin/flus/etc li jkun ghamel jew nefaq fil-bahar...
Tal-anqas jien ftit li xejn sibt ghajnuna, u kultant tiskanta min jaghtik parir tajjeb..
U trid dettalji ta' li jaghmlu ftit differenza...
Kultant ukoll ma taghti tort lil hadd ghax illum kollox flus armar expensive, liska, fuel etc etc.... u l-hut naqas...
ha ntikhom tip u pruvaw sibu soluzzjoni baghira...
ala tuzaw ic comb???? ma tahsbux li tistaw tuzaw affarijiet ahjar.
close.to surface...lol shanook naf li qghedt al .xi haga ohra imma dik l aghar haga li tista taghmel livebaiting... taf fejn ssiba l qasba
..
imma fuq din ha nghidilkom. ala ma tuzawx 2 qasab ta libragg differenti u l.qasba ta libragg zghir tarma bil braid u comba 1kg u tistad il qih u bil qasbal i ha tistad f nofs ilma narma mono halli jkolli elastic u comba 600 grms. ha tinduna li anke.jekk l harira ssalab qatt ma tghaqqad.ekk ax harira ma harira ma taqadx. ;)
din sajda qed tistad 40 sa 150 metru. kulhadd jehel u jghagfeg apecjalment meta tkun ghajjien. parti mill loba. din mix sajda ta 3 sighat... sajda ta gurnata sakemm tahdem il lixka u trail and error
tal qiegh tistad ghal kollox tan nofs.ilma ghal acciol :)
jien alija dawn dettalji u mux sigrieti. ftit.sens.komun u fizika ;) kulhadd ghandu mohh biex jahseb u jirraguna
Quote from: baghira on February 25, 2013, 19:31:49 CET
He will love to share his experiance... hahahahahahahahahahahah tajba din shanookk......
hahahahahahah
Jien qazzuni kulhadd jigi mieghi biex jurini x qed naghmel hazin..... :-) Halluni ta''' Issa Daqshekk.... UZGUUUUUUUUUUUUR
Malvizz lesti ghaz zkuk ghax hadd ma hu ser jghidlek dak li hu tghallem wara balla hin/flus/etc li jkun ghamel jew nefaq fil-bahar...
Tal-anqas jien ftit li xejn sibt ghajnuna, u kultant tiskanta min jaghtik parir tajjeb..
U trid dettalji ta' li jaghmlu ftit differenza...
Kultant ukoll ma taghti tort lil hadd ghax illum kollox flus armar expensive, liska, fuel etc etc.... u l-hut naqas...
ma tantx thajjar nies jghinuk b dik l attitudni... u hut haen iktar milli qed tahseb... dan hu hut tal passa mux tal post kif jahsbu hafna...
u wara kollox.. kull dettal relevanti... u s sajd sabih tiskopri mux ituk kollox lest
Le granitu ma fihmtniex ta. Jien lil malvizzu edtlu meta jmur irejjex ghal lampuki/ Alungi ghax hu qal li meta jmur irejjex jithabbel. Kemm hu Vera Jien edt li kont out of context.
Bil haj dejjem uzajt il weights. Bhal katina flok comb.
Quote from: shanook on February 25, 2013, 22:09:31 CET
Le granitu ma fihmtniex ta. Jien lil malvizzu edtlu meta jmur irejjex ghal lampuki/ Alungi ghax hu qal li meta jmur irejjex jithabbel. Kemm hu Vera Jien edt li kont out of context.
Bil haj dejjem uzajt il weights. Bhal katina flok comb.
ija ija naf ima ma jmirx.jaghmel ekk
...jien ftit zmien ilu ekk amilt u hallejy soltetra u qasba daiwa.l bahar....
proset shanook dik hi! katina ! katina ftit li xejn tehel. ima trud timodifika ftit
Dik mhix atitudin Granit...
Dawk huma fatti li kulhadd joqghod jinheba warajhom.
Il baghira mhux hekk...Il-Baghira Jghid kollox dritt...
Pero il baghira dak li jaf jaqsmu ma kulhadd u jghin lill-kulhadd..... Ara tistaqsix lill membri kemm il-wiehed cempilli ghal pjacir u dejjem ghint lil kulhadd.... U qatt ma zammejt penny lil hadd, u min jaf kemm infaqt flus jien ghal haddiehor.
Quote from: baghira on February 26, 2013, 09:06:53 CET
Dik mhix atitudin Granit...
Dawk huma fatti li kulhadd joqghod jinheba warajhom.
Il baghira mhux hekk...Il-Baghira Jghid kollox dritt...
Pero il baghira dak li jaf jaqsmu ma kulhadd u jghin lill-kulhadd..... Ara tistaqsix lill membri kemm il-wiehed cempilli ghal pjacir u dejjem ghint lil kulhadd.... U qatt ma zammejt penny lil hadd, u min jaf kemm infaqt flus jien ghal haddiehor.
Jin ghalik, xejn personali baghira. Kif taf fejn stajt u kont naf ghentek.
Jin nammetti, ma nikxifx kollox u naqsam. Ghax haddiehor meta kont tifel ma qasamx mieghi. Jin ghamiltom s sighat fuq il bahar, nfaqt balla flus biex ezempju tinduna fluorocarbon tajjeb u iehor hazin.
Jien jekk bniedem ikun tal fiducja nghinu. Imma irid nkun naf li genwin mux xi lupu liebes ta qattus. Gidmuni kemm il darba baghira, serrah mohhok. Jien mmur nistad biex nihu gost u per ezempju, m ghandix ghalfejn noqod ntella ritratti hawn biex niehu gost. Jien s sajd hu passatemp u mux xi kompetizzjoni li naqbad l ikbar huta.
U nformazzjoni hawn kemm tridu llum bl internet.
Postijiet hawn aktar milli qed tahseb int... Fittex u prova halli meta ssib zzomom ghalik u ma ssib l hadd idejqek. Nerga nghidlek, trial and error dawn l affarijiet.
Nifmek min n punt baghira, ghax forsi l ispejjez tad dghajsa tieghek mhumiex tieghi. Jin personali jekk nohrog nistad u ma naqbadx xewka kulma tigini Eur 15 diesel (nkun mort il boghod imma - gurnata u nofs magni mixghula).
Naffordja niehu cans post u ma nqabdax xewka suret in nies imbad 4 darba ningabar ta kollox. Niehu riskji al avventura, u ghalekk nghidlek li hut hawn iktar milli tahseb, ghax minn postijiet li qatt ma stennejt certu hut qbadt hut li skond hafna ma jaghmilx f dawn il postijiet.
Imbad il luck kollox u.
Xerba kelmiet dawk ostja granitu !!!!
U hut nghidilkom kollha li veru hawn..... jien ili nohrog fuq il bahar pero nghid li xorta ma naf xej ghax dejjem ed nispicca niskopri !!! Jien kif tafu bil konzijiet immur u dan l ahhar intfajt niskopri bahar gdid immur bi ftit snanar u nahdem sew fuq bicciet li nara joffru 2 hutiet fuq l iskandal. Pero il kurrentijiet u l qamar jaffetwaw hafna lis sajd..... drabi l hut imiss god dlamijiet u ohrajn imiss god dawl..... Flus ajjejt nonfoq u anke armar dejjem niprova narma mil ahjar li nista u najdilkom li bhekk taqbad erba hutiet..... hut hawn hafna.... issibu trid u titnejjek bih il kelma ax il hut li hawn kollu makkak. Jien bhal granitu sajda ma tiswinix gholja ghax b 20 euro diesel namel mid dlam sad dlam barra imma il hin hemm ijed u l ghejja tamel taghha ukoll !!! Lili hadd ma gie jejdli hemm tajjeb biex taqbad erba hutiet mur u prova...... sieghat naghmel nistudja ic charts u nigri bir rixa min filodu sa filghaxija mohni fil fishfinder biex nimmarka xi skoll jew blata !!!!
ilbes nuccali bigboy dawk aktar minn erba kelmiet ghandu fil post :)ppp
jien kulma edt u li bniedem tista tibdieh bhal kif jarma, speed, harira, sannar tal lixka, xtaghmel meta tmutlek il lixka, weights. Insomma afarijiet li ma hemx daqstant habi. dwar postijiet heqq mhux fejn hemm il blat.......imbad jesperimenta dak li jkun, laqwa li hemm bidu li jigi wara huwa SAJD.
Hu skond bigboy: relaxation+expenses+smells+swearing+=Fishing
@silv
Mhux hulhadd listess ghawn minn jghin u ghawn minn izomm kollox mistur u ghaw minn irid ikun jaf imma li jaf hu izommu mistur. Mitt ragel Mitejn B_____a
Quote from: shanook on February 26, 2013, 11:16:40 CET
ilbes nuccali bigboy dawk aktar minn erba kelmiet ghandu fil post :)ppp
jien kulma edt u li bniedem tista tibdieh bhal kif jarma, speed, harira, sannar tal lixka, xtaghmel meta tmutlek il lixka, weights. Insomma afarijiet li ma hemx daqstant habi. dwar postijiet heqq mhux fejn hemm il blat.......imbad jesperimenta dak li jkun, laqwa li hemm bidu li jigi wara huwa SAJD.
Hu skond bigboy: relaxation+expenses+smells+swearing+=Fishing
@silv
Mhux hulhadd listess ghawn minn jghin u ghawn minn izomm kollox mistur u ghaw minn irid ikun jaf imma li jaf hu izommu mistur. Mitt ragel Mitejn B_____a
Lol u min qatawomlu barra tghoddu? :P
Apparti C cajt. Jien nammetti li naghzel x naqsam ma haddiehor. Hadd ma jmur joqod ixandar kemm ghandu flus il bank jew kemm il bassa jboss kuljum. Jien anqas nithallat tant l ghaqda bbugia, m ghandix ghalfejn u maz zmien naf li min jaf x inhu jaghmel emm isfel ma jitkellem ma hadd. Jistad u jahdem al rasu.
Kelma ggib l ohra llum nafhom u naqsmu ma dawn in nies. Ma nsaqsux postijiet ghax kulhadd bicca tieghu, mod bniedem imur ghal kahli u tghidlu post tal kahli u mod post tal haj. Il postijiet ovvja l hut halliel ta veru imma hdejn li hawn madwarna l ovvja mbarazz ;)
Biex narmak Malvizzu ejja sal garaxx u nurik bil qalb kollha. Wahdek imbad tibda tarma u tesperimenta u ttejjeb fuq li titghallem.
Quote from: bigboy on February 26, 2013, 10:42:13 CET
Xerba kelmiet dawk ostja granitu !!!!
U hut nghidilkom kollha li veru hawn..... jien ili nohrog fuq il bahar pero nghid li xorta ma naf xej ghax dejjem ed nispicca niskopri !!! Jien kif tafu bil konzijiet immur u dan l ahhar intfajt niskopri bahar gdid immur bi ftit snanar u nahdem sew fuq bicciet li nara joffru 2 hutiet fuq l iskandal. Pero il kurrentijiet u l qamar jaffetwaw hafna lis sajd..... drabi l hut imiss god dlamijiet u ohrajn imiss god dawl..... Flus ajjejt nonfoq u anke armar dejjem niprova narma mil ahjar li nista u najdilkom li bhekk taqbad erba hutiet..... hut hawn hafna.... issibu trid u titnejjek bih il kelma ax il hut li hawn kollu makkak. Jien bhal granitu sajda ma tiswinix gholja ghax b 20 euro diesel namel mid dlam sad dlam barra imma il hin hemm ijed u l ghejja tamel taghha ukoll !!! Lili hadd ma gie jejdli hemm tajjeb biex taqbad erba hutiet mur u prova...... sieghat naghmel nistudja ic charts u nigri bir rixa min filodu sa filghaxija mohni fil fishfinder biex nimmarka xi skoll jew blata !!!!
Mela x inhu big, jien llum nkala knuz ta 50 sunnara l iktar... u tmur ahjar minn kons ta 100 sunnara. Nahdem knuz skond il post sirt ghax l hut drah s sajd certu postijiet.
Ghandi post partikulari, d dnieci ma jmissukx jekk l bahar ma jkunx ta l inqas forza 5. Bhal qishu dara li f dak il bahar ma jkunx emm dghajjes jistadu... Dejjem l istess storja u l hut ikun jidher fuq l skandall.
L Hut halliel iktar milli nahsbu ahna. hawn gebla tal kahli n naha taghna anqas al forok ma taghmel. Meta jkun bil grigal taghmel tmiss sakemm tfalli wahda.
Ifhem jin kunzijiet ta 100 sunnara l wihed inkala biex nipruva bicca bahar min aw jew min hemm nolqota sewwa. U fil forza 5 gos sodda noqod ta mhux nohrog hemm barra nixxejjer :P
Quote from: bigboy on February 26, 2013, 11:54:43 CET
Ifhem jin kunzijiet ta 100 sunnara l wihed inkala biex nipruva bicca bahar min aw jew min hemm nolqota sewwa. U fil forza 5 gos sodda noqod ta mhux nohrog hemm barra nixxejjer :P
Jin nohrog nippova sa 5 u ftit nistadu jekk ikun emm l aptit u :P
Isma l-ahwa ma rridx naqla' polemiki. Napprezza hafna l-kummenti li tghatu izda napprezza u nifhem ukoll li xertu 'tricks of the trade" u "hotspots" wiehed izommhom ghalih ghax ikun bghata hafna xemx u bahar u nefaq bagatalla flus biex skoprihom.
Grazzi hafna Granitu u napprezza l-ghajnuna tieghek. Jien kif ghedt diga', novizz ghall-ahhar f'din it-tip ta' sajda. Ma nafx jekk taghtix frott qrib l-art ghax jekk hija sajda li trid tohrog hafna l-barra, allura tkun storja differenti ghalija :)
Garzzi lilek ukoll Shanook tal-kontribut tieghek.
Quote from: malvizzu on February 26, 2013, 15:59:22 CET
Isma l-ahwa ma rridx naqla' polemiki. Napprezza hafna l-kummenti li tghatu izda napprezza u nifhem ukoll li xertu 'tricks of the trade" u "hotspots" wiehed izommhom ghalih ghax ikun bghata hafna xemx u bahar u nefaq bagatalla flus biex skoprihom.
Grazzi hafna Granitu u napprezza l-ghajnuna tieghek. Jien kif ghedt diga', novizz ghall-ahhar f'din it-tip ta' sajda. Ma nafx jekk taghtix frott qrib l-art ghax jekk hija sajda li trid tohrog hafna l-barra, allura tkun storja differenti ghalija :)
Garzzi lilek ukoll Shanook tal-kontribut tieghek.
Serrah mohhok li taghti Malvizzu... Biss ma l art gili jmissuk xi lizzijiet jew xi plampti. Ma tihux gost meta tkun qed tistad din is sajda ghax ifisser li h**jt lixka ma huta fjakka.
L aghar hu t tannut, ax imiss u ma jinqabadx. Diffcili tinduna li qed imiss u jaf jahdimlek l lixka bla ma tinduna.
Biss nghidlek li din sajda li tista tigi adatta ghal kull tip ta hut.
Mux kwistoni ta polemika u postijiet hawn 50 metru boghod mix xatt u ohrajn il boghod. Ovvjament go l art il hut iktar halliel
U l ahhar haga... Skandal li taf taqrah sew essenzjali !!! ideali minn 600watts l fuq
Xi skandal tissugerixxi mghallem?
Granitu - jiena Lowrance HDS 5 Combo ghandi bi transducer basic li jigi mieghu. Nassumi li bizzejjed ghal dan it-tip ta' sajd!
Le l-ahwa x'polemiki...
Jien kul me ghidt huwa fatt li gejtu mieghi fl-ahhar mill-ahhar..
Hadd ma jikxef patattu kif jaqbad huta, ghax ghad tmur u ma issibiex ....
Jien ma tantx nista naghtik pariri malvizz.... Jien sa issa mort xi 16 il darba, imma granet shah.... tigini madwar 55 euro kul darba bejn fuel/liska + larmar li nhalli warajja. Armar xbajt inbiddel, u harir u fluoro u comb u hadid u snanar etc inqatta u narmi u twahhil etc u qatt ma qbadt huta sewwa hlief knuz u nases... anzi issa kelli xi 4 messiet...
Jien per ezmpju tal katina qatt ma kienet tghaddili min mohhi, minhabba xi cekcik... dejjem vireg tal hadid uzajt.... u trick hekk billi tghidu flus lil shabek tiffranka u lilek mhux ser taghmillek differenza.. Sewwa ghidt haqqek prosit Granit...
Bhal ma ghidt meta staqsejtek xi haga fuq il-mutur dejjem ghidtli mlli taf... u grazzi.
Issa jekk veru trid tghin hu video sewwa tal-armar etc bhal ta antonello salvi, jekk jghogbok gibilna ftit il GPS u L-Fishfinder ukoll please :P :P
U din tal katina ma missekx ghidtieli qabel shanook, kont naqta bicca min tal Mazzra Tal-Visa... ;D
U mhux diga edtilkom il club. Kemm ha ndum nirrepeti. Inti Ibda oqod attent mhux mohhok fin nej..k. Tal visa mhux tajba kolla msadda lol
Xi darba ingibu lil granitu il club u jaghmlilna lecture.
Quote from: malvizzu on February 26, 2013, 20:15:09 CET
Granitu - jiena Lowrance HDS 5 Combo ghandi bi transducer basic li jigi mieghu. Nassumi li bizzejjed ghal dan it-tip ta' sajd!
perfett jin l hds 7 gen 2 tajbin ta veru daw!
Quote from: baghira on February 26, 2013, 21:48:15 CET
Le l-ahwa x'polemiki...
Jien kul me ghidt huwa fatt li gejtu mieghi fl-ahhar mill-ahhar..
Hadd ma jikxef patattu kif jaqbad huta, ghax ghad tmur u ma issibiex ....
Jien ma tantx nista naghtik pariri malvizz.... Jien sa issa mort xi 16 il darba, imma granet shah.... tigini madwar 55 euro kul darba bejn fuel/liska + larmar li nhalli warajja. Armar xbajt inbiddel, u harir u fluoro u comb u hadid u snanar etc inqatta u narmi u twahhil etc u qatt ma qbadt huta sewwa hlief knuz u nases... anzi issa kelli xi 4 messiet...
Jien per ezmpju tal katina qatt ma kienet tghaddili min mohhi, minhabba xi cekcik... dejjem vireg tal hadid uzajt.... u trick hekk billi tghidu flus lil shabek tiffranka u lilek mhux ser taghmillek differenza.. Sewwa ghidt haqqek prosit Granit...
Bhal ma ghidt meta staqsejtek xi haga fuq il-mutur dejjem ghidtli mlli taf... u grazzi.
Issa jekk veru trid tghin hu video sewwa tal-armar etc bhal ta antonello salvi, jekk jghogbok gibilna ftit il GPS u L-Fishfinder ukoll please :P :P
U din tal katina ma missekx ghidtieli qabel shanook, kont naqta bicca min tal Mazzra Tal-Visa... ;D
c cekcik jattira baghira ta.... jekk tarma b zewg qasab arma ekk u ma thabbilx. virga xorta tista tehel ax tidhol f pett ma taqlahiex. katina flexible.iktar u timmarka meta tkun missejt il qih. anzi taf gili.meta tmur bil harpoon ikollok il virga ma qih fejn tidhol...
imbad l speed tad dghajsa essenzjali. jin l aqwa speed meta tkun fuq postu hu .5 ta knot. f dan l ispeed l liska tkun naturali u jekk ikun bil guh itemmila hajjita..
y jekk tixtri s sicc ixtri wahda mara u dur dawra biha u fi zmiena ikollok 10 rgiel f satejn. almrnu jekk.ma.jkollokx.hut tihu 4 sicciet d dar.
Ah bil qahba qatt ma stadt. Ma ghandix idea kif turbot is sicca ghax xoghol.lanqas biex irejjex biha ma naf ghax darba gidmitni u bqajt ma nmissomx bidejja.
Ma nafx nistad bil-liska hajja u ghalija hi tip ta sajd wisq impenjativa. Imma nahseb din tal-ispeed tista tkun problema ghal hafna li ghandhom magna b'sahhitha ghax ma nafx kif b'magni kbar (40hp jew aktar) fuq dghajjes ta 14 il-pied tista zzomm dawn l-ispeeds daqshekk baxxi (taht 1 knot) ghal tul ta hin. Nahseb li jekk ma jkollokx auxiliary engine difficli tistad dan it-tip ta sajd jekk ghandek magna kbira.
lazyfisherman ahna konna nimxu bil pallelli hahahahhaha kien zmien iehor. frejgatina kienet timxi tajjeb bihom lol
illum b'auxiliary heqq
Quote from: shanook on February 27, 2013, 08:48:01 CET
Ah bil qahba qatt ma stadt. Ma ghandix idea kif turbot is sicca ghax xoghol.lanqas biex irejjex biha ma naf ghax darba gidmitni u bqajt ma nmissomx bidejja.
L ikbar problema bix tarafa
Auxiliary essenzjali dejjem u b 40hp ma trejjix bil haj
B magni inboards haga ohra. Ikollok r reduction taghmel festa imma kajjik b magna 80hp izomm .5 taknot tghinu b xi barmil fil bahar.
Jin nuza yanmar marine ta 30 hp l inqas li naghmel hu ta .2 ta knot. Fuq tan nofs nzomm .8 ta knot minghajr ghajnuna
ghandek trolling valve imma nic ?? ostja jien tijej 45 il magna u linqas li naqa 2.2 u waqqajta ddur 500 rev.
Quote from: bigboy on February 27, 2013, 15:38:37 CET
ghandek trolling valve imma nic ?? ostja jien tijej 45 il magna u linqas li naqa 2.2 u waqqajta ddur 500 rev.
fuq it toyota ija. imma ma nuzahx. jien ghandj trim tams u nnizilhoma l isfel bhal gwienah fil bahar u jsammruwa. u mnalla mahdum ekk ax fuq l mazra biex timmanuvra iebsa.
imbad il props ippicjai perfetti. il gas ma tihdux f daqqa imma bil mod u ttella 7 knote b toyota. gili pruvajt u rnexxiet ukoll li nhaddem magna min u ohra nitfa r reverse gear mitfija
mnalla ghandi ekk ax biex nimmanuvra fejn mmazrat mux facli
ima 2.2 mux boghod big. amila zewg parachutes mal gnub u emm tkun.
Quote from: Granitu on February 27, 2013, 15:19:02 CET
Quote from: shanook on February 27, 2013, 08:48:01 CET
Ah bil qahba qatt ma stadt. Ma ghandix idea kif turbot is sicca ghax xoghol.lanqas biex irejjex biha ma naf ghax darba gidmitni u bqajt ma nmissomx bidejja.
L ikbar problema bix tarafa
Mhux ovvja kif tintaghraf......
Mhux Min bejn S....a, (subajha) :-)
ghalix bagira ikolla ic capetti u crieket jew mil kutix
jekk ikollok iktar min wahda,ghazel dejjem l-izghar bhala daqs u ara li jkolla l-oqsor branki.Difficli timmissja li ma tkunx mara.Jekk ikollok wahda biss,tough luck!
Quote from: caldaland on February 27, 2013, 21:34:02 CET
jekk ikollok iktar min wahda,ghazel dejjem l-izghar bhala daqs u ara li jkolla l-oqsor branki.Difficli timmissja li ma tkunx mara.Jekk ikollok wahda biss,tough luck!
sicca hajja ibihuwa 5 euro l wahda. b wahda taghmel festa u sicca go tank il bahar zzoma xahar hajja - trid titmagha ovvjament. (mulett u bubin tajjeb)
mux dejjem.caldaland l ahjar metodu.hu.li thares lejn il branci gewwa li tkun glittery (lesta an namra) u mad dawra ikolla linja skura mara. ragel mux matur qisu mara ikun eccetra id dettalji li tajtkom awn fuq. b ragel ma jmissikx alkemm gili uzajtu bix isibli.mara(emm sistema) imma b mara kapaci taqbad mara ohra. minn fejn ssib mara ftakru ax dejjem.tibqa ssib
qied tara silv li mhux hulhadd izomm ghalih. Jien qatt ma kont nafhom dawn ghax qatt ma interessajt ruhi u meta staqsejt kif tinduna li mara kienu jieduli .....inti mhux mara tmur tixtri??
issa li jmiss hu kif torbota biex ma taghmlilix hsara
Prosit tal informazzjoni u grazzi lil Granitu u Caldaland..............
Quote from: shanook on February 28, 2013, 14:17:48 CET
qied tara silv li mhux hulhadd izomm ghalih. Jien qatt ma kont nafhom dawn ghax qatt ma interessajt ruhi u meta staqsejt kif tinduna li mara kienu jieduli .....inti mhux mara tmur tixtri??
issa li jmiss hu kif torbota biex ma taghmlilix hsara
Prosit tal informazzjoni u grazzi lil Granitu u Caldaland..............
Biex torbuwa u tkunu tistaw tuzawa iktar minn darba emm sistema imma ma nistax niddeskrivija. L ahjar nurikhom kif.
Jin ma nuzax snanar, imma nuza labra u nghaddi il harira minn gisima.
Tistaw taghmlula piercing b sunnara zghira fuq wara (go l ghadma). Jekk tkun ha trejjex biha tajjeb ekk ghax tkun lesta. S sicca tiflah xol u swat u ikollok mara tajba ibzaw ghaliha!
Quote from: baghira on February 27, 2013, 21:00:21 CET
Quote from: Granitu on February 27, 2013, 15:19:02 CET
Quote from: shanook on February 27, 2013, 08:48:01 CET
Ah bil qahba qatt ma stadt. Ma ghandix idea kif turbot is sicca ghax xoghol.lanqas biex irejjex biha ma naf ghax darba gidmitni u bqajt ma nmissomx bidejja.
L ikbar problema bix tarafa
Mhux ovvja kif tintaghraf......
Mhux Min bejn S....a, (subajha) :-)
Tija subajk bejn subaja u naraw jekk tarafiex :P
U jien naf ... gerfixtuni isssa..
Issa mela l-ewwel irrid nixtri sicca hajja, 5 euro..
Imbghad narala bejn saqaja, sorry subaja, forsi tigdimni wkoll, u jekk ileqq, immur iqahhaba, wara li naghmilla misluta ma dahra... u jekk naqbad ohra. din inzomma hajja, u immur ghall bubin frisk biex nitmahha go barmil jew barrada, imbgahd ikunu saru xi l-gherba ta wara nofs inhar u intella....
Upps insejt immur bil haj... :-)
Quote from: baghira on February 28, 2013, 21:24:34 CET
U jien naf ... gerfixtuni isssa..
Issa mela l-ewwel irrid nixtri sicca hajja, 5 euro..
Imbghad narala bejn saqaja, sorry subaja, forsi tigdimni wkoll, u jekk ileqq, immur iqahhaba, wara li naghmilla misluta ma dahra... u jekk naqbad ohra. din inzomma hajja, u immur ghall bubin frisk biex nitmahha go barmil jew barrada, imbgahd ikunu saru xi l-gherba ta wara nofs inhar u intella....
Upps insejt immur bil haj... :-)
u mur l emm... l ewwel nies bil qahba bil lejl l ahjar
inkella ghagin dejjem ha tiekol baghira
2 tista ma tixtrijoex u tahli l hin taqbada. taf ssib x i wahda ma xi slipway... gili hrajta ekk jin
Oqghod attenti li ma tkisruliex l ghadma xhin tghamel it toqba inkella ma idumx hajja. U tried tkun pront li ma thalihx imies mahha ghax ma taqalewx min mahha.Haga ohra importanti tinsewx tghamlula ftiet lipstick .
Kont qed nerga' naqra dawn il-posts interessanti (u polemikuzi ;D) ta' tlett snin ilu. X'inhu l-vantagg li tuza katina flok comb? Mhux xorta tista' tehel go pett jew xi toqba fil-blat nghid jien?
Quote from: malvizzu on January 20, 2016, 16:19:51 CET
Kont qed nerga' naqra dawn il-posts interessanti (u polemikuzi ;D) ta' tlett snin ilu. X'inhu l-vantagg li tuza katina flok comb? Mhux xorta tista' tehel go pett jew xi toqba fil-blat nghid jien?
Gosti.
F certu kundizzjonijiet katina ahjar, f ohrajn comba ahjar. L esperjenza kollox mbad.
Quote from: malvizzu on January 20, 2016, 16:19:51 CET
Kont qed nerga' naqra dawn il-posts interessanti (u polemikuzi ;D) ta' tlett snin ilu. X'inhu l-vantagg li tuza katina flok comb? Mhux xorta tista' tehel go pett jew xi toqba fil-blat nghid jien?
kevin, il-katina tkarkar mal-qieh taghmel xi ftit storbju, li probabli jattira l-hut ghax il-hut kurjuz. Ukoll, meta l-katina qed thokk mal qieh, qed tqanqal il-qieh minn fejn tghaddi, li ukoll, jattira l-hut. Dik hi differenza.
Thanks Joe. Interessanti din l-informazzjoni u taghmel hafna sens.
Nic l-esperjenza se tkun naqra problema ghalija ghax mhux xi wiehed li naqbad ;D
imbaghad hemm ohra...katina irhisa...ghax jaf titlef kwantita meta trejjex fil qieh. katina tal hadid issaddad u titerra, comba taghmel il hsara
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