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Title: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 01, 2009, 10:11:35 CET
Qed nithajjar nuza il maggots....jien qatt ma uzajthom...tistu ituni pariri ta kif izomhom hajjin..tiliskom...x tip ta sajd tista taghmel...u x hut imissek fuqhom?
cheers....
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: caldaland on November 01, 2009, 11:28:36 CET
mur ghand pirotta tal-gzira u jurik kollox. ghandu lesti fil-kaxxi u irhas hafna.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 01, 2009, 14:14:23 CET
but are they any good? any1 landed fish using maggots?
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: noztheviking on November 01, 2009, 17:04:48 CET
please translate origanal question, and yes caught thousands of fish using maggots, both real maggots and artificial, and both sea fish and freshwaterfish, there are also diffrant kinds of maggots
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: mike.d. on November 01, 2009, 18:32:23 CET
i use maggots all the time, now i can use the artificial ones thanks to noz,allways catch fish with maggots no problem
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: owenbullu on November 01, 2009, 20:00:48 CET
with maggots i managed to land a good sized "sawrella", quite unusual but i caught it. By the way in my opinion don't ever go to pirotta in my opinion all he sells is crap. My friend used to buy bait from him and for some reason they were ALWAYS half dead.

To keep maggot alive just put them in the fridge and shake them once in a while, they should stay alive for 2 weeks (but only if not bought from pirotta).

If you never used them don't try to hook them like you do with worms, hook them from their rear/front and leave them hanging and hook more than 1. I usually put at least 5-8 depends on the size of the hook
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: alfadelta on November 01, 2009, 20:29:05 CET
Owenbullu, so from who do you suggest to buy them?
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: owenbullu on November 01, 2009, 22:35:15 CET
i always buy them from mister fish as he is the nearest to me, and they were always in good shape :).

But you have to book them as they are sold faster than bread of cheese cakes
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: caldaland on November 01, 2009, 23:03:34 CET
i smell something fishy here!!
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: camkev on November 01, 2009, 23:18:01 CET
i always bought them from mr fish,i know a guy who makes them himself from rotten meat...well for me i didn't like them that much,still prefare shrimps or worms as bait!!
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: owenbullu on November 01, 2009, 23:26:08 CET
Quote from: caldaland on November 01, 2009, 23:03:34 CET
i smell something fishy here!!
depends what you are smelling mate. I don't get any commition if that's what you are thinking. It's only my opinion and the experience my friend had from pirotta's bait
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: caldaland on November 02, 2009, 02:32:09 CET
simple question. if pirotta" all he sells is crap",how come he has been open before i was even born? btw im 51 year old!
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: mike.d. on November 02, 2009, 06:23:57 CET
just for us mortals who is pirotta please  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 02, 2009, 07:49:15 CET
lol @ mike.d... pirotta is a leading tackle shop
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 02, 2009, 07:53:13 CET
mike.d what are artificial maggots?
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 02, 2009, 07:54:16 CET
..well i guess ever1 has his own favourite tackle shop.. :)
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: owenbullu on November 02, 2009, 08:43:49 CET
Quote from: caldaland on November 02, 2009, 02:32:09 CET
simple question. if pirotta" all he sells is crap",how come he has been open before i was even born? btw im 51 year old!
good point but still.....I'll stand to my opinion as even I went I went to buy something from pirotta the only 2 things that I found good were a particular brand of hooks (forgot the brand) and the ninja line...That's it.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: owenbullu on November 02, 2009, 08:50:13 CET
Quote from: Reelin on November 02, 2009, 07:53:13 CET
mike.d what are artificial maggots?
they are like real maggots with the difference that they are made of plastic :).....

Anyway you only have to slip a hook in them like you do with worms and spin with them but they are not good for small prey like "vopi" you can catch fish like sawrell, awrat etc.... Mind you the way to hook the maggot I mentioned here is for the artificial maggots only... If you want ask Spitec he has a good selection and he can show you in person how to use them.

"Sorry for the names of the fish but I only know them in Maltese"
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 02, 2009, 09:13:40 CET
cheers owenbullu..so maggots should be fine for ledgering
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: caldaland on November 02, 2009, 11:51:33 CET
maggots should be put in the fridge otherwise they turn into flies. the warmer the weather the faster they pupate. {turn into flies}.when one takes them out of the fridge they will not move because the metabolism would be very low.that exactly the reason why the are put in cold ambient in the first place.by the time they are taken out of the fridge and ready to be hooked as bait they would have been thawed and very wriggly! btw.they are very good bait especially for kahli
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: chrifene on November 02, 2009, 12:14:35 CET
Do they hold well when hooked or they come off easily? can they be used for bottom fishing or not?

Thanks.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: camkev on November 02, 2009, 12:33:59 CET
Yes they hold well with the hook,they are not that easy to come off if you hook them properly,and yes they can be used for bottom fishing.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: caldaland on November 02, 2009, 12:38:08 CET
they do hold well but unfortunately it is not advisable to cast as they are not that strong.they can also be used for bottom fishing but as they are nearly odourless they are not good for deep fishing or night fishing or anywhere where there is lack of light.kahli fishing at night is an exception as this fish can see very well even in nearly pitch black conditions.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: chrifene on November 02, 2009, 12:39:46 CET
Thanks caldaland for the info
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: caldaland on November 02, 2009, 12:43:32 CET
yw christian but camkev was faster than me! lol
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 02, 2009, 12:45:50 CET
oohh so kahli has super vision at night!!..so that's y i manage so land some nice zabri using korean at night...and i thought i was improving!!
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: caldaland on November 02, 2009, 12:55:54 CET
lol. usually in fish,the larger the eye the better the vision. just look at the size of those eyes compared to the body! no wonder the italians call them "occhiata" meaning large eyes!
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: sharktail on November 02, 2009, 14:23:10 CET
maybe a stupid question...

Are maggots dangerous (in terms of health) if left in the fridge at home with other food?? (obviously closed in their container)  ???

And regarding artificial maggots, I guess these are "less" interesting for fish eh?... as they do not move like real maggots?  :-\

And what about the "worms" found on the rocks? (dawk id-dud li jkunu jigru fuq il-blat?)

10x
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 02, 2009, 14:39:06 CET
yep that poped in my mind as well...one thing's for sure i wont tell my wife i've put a box full of baby flies in refrigerator or else i'm dead meat....coming to think about it maggot food...how's that for ironic!  ;D
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: noztheviking on November 02, 2009, 16:06:44 CET
MAGGOTS ARE NOT DANGEROUS AFTER ALL THEY ARE USED IN MODERN MEDICINE TO CLEAN INFECTED WOUNDS AND ARE MORE EFFECTIVE AND LESS INVASIVE THAN ANTIBIOTICS AND SURGERY, KEPT IN A PROPER CONTAINER IN A FRIDGE THEY PRESENT NO DANGER WHAT SOEVER TO HUMANS, I WAS GOING TO SAY UNLESS YOU WERE TO EAT THEM, BUT THINKING ABOUT THAT STATEMENT, I REALISE THAT ITS TOTALLY WRONG, AFTER THINKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF MAGGOTS THAT I HAVE SWALLOWED OVER THE YEARS AND I AM STILL GOING STRONG, BEFORE YOU ASK HOW COME I HAVE SWALLOWED MAGGOTS, ITS SIMPLE, IN WINTER WHEN FISHING IN THE COLD WE POP A COUPLE OF MAGGOTS UNDER YOUR TONGUE TO KEEP EM WARM AND KEEP EM WRIGGLEING, AND OR COURSE NOW AND THEN YOU COUGH OR SOMETHING AND DOWN YER NECK GOES A FEW, AND AS FOR ARTIFICIAL MAGGOTS TRY THE BERKERLY POWER BAIT MAGGOTS THEY ARE REALLY GOOD, THEY FEEL LIKE REAL MAGGOTS THEY ARE IMPREGNATED WITH THE SMELL OF REAL MAGGOTS AND THEY CATCH FISH. I KNOW I USED THEM ON THE JETTY AT ST, PAULS BAY AND CAUGHT MULLET BREAM VOPI AND QUITE A FEW OTHERKINDS OF FISH THAT I DONT KNOW THE NAMES OF, I DONT KNOW IF THERE IS ANY WHERE YOU CAN GET THEM FROM IN MALTA COS THE LAST LOT I BROUGHT OVER FOR A FRIEND WHO LIVES IN MALTA
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 02, 2009, 18:11:52 CET
lol...the idea of swollowing maggots well........thanks be to god maklta is not so cold...so the putting them in the mouth part is sorted!...thanks for your help!!
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: mike.d. on November 02, 2009, 20:43:21 CET
they also come in several different colours, as noz says they are made to imitate real maggots, except for the wriggling, and real ones dont wriggle for long, also artificial blood worms, look and feel great. p.s. well said noz.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: noztheviking on November 02, 2009, 22:28:35 CET
JUST DONT TELL EM WHERE REAL BLOOD WORMS COME FROM MIKE, IF THEY THINK A FEW MAGGOTS ARE BAD, YOU CAN GET BERKLEY RAG WORMS AND LUG WORMS AS WELL AS LOADS OF OTHER STUFF, THE ARTIFCIAL BREAD IS SUPERB FOR MULLET, ITS DEAD SOFT LIKE REAL BREAD BUT REALLY TOUGH AND DOES NOT FLY OFF THE HOOK LIKE REAL BREAD.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: mike.d. on November 03, 2009, 06:08:51 CET
not to worry noz my lips are sealed, the bread sounds good its something i allways have problems with.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 03, 2009, 08:08:22 CET
please mike.d spare us the details!  :D
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: tancred on November 03, 2009, 18:01:13 CET
I have used maggots regularly for some 18 months, mostly in ta' xbiex or sliema nazzarenu and usually early in the morning. I use exactly the same set-up as for farka. Most fish bite on them. They are excellent for zabri and the occassional kahlija (even if the sea is calm!). Other fish caught include sparli, hriebex, a few sargi (when still dark) and quite a few awrat (500 - 700g). Mullet bite as well (and usually swallow too) but much less than on bread. Sawrell like them too but they prefer gambli tal-friza or pieces of fish.

Main advantages:
1. Same set-up as farka, including hooks. When the mullett are not biting, I switch to maggots for some time.
2. They can be added to the ghalf.
3. Relatively cheap and they keep well in fridge for up to 3-4 weeks. I use the 'old' one for ghalf.
4. BEST OF ALL: They are not attacked by tisfijja- voparella, tartarella etc but tiny zabri can be a problem!
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: mike.d. on November 03, 2009, 18:18:48 CET
i may need some help on this noz, but has anyone tried using maggots when they turn to lava, just before hatching, they are called casters in the uk, and very popular,
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: noztheviking on November 03, 2009, 20:46:00 CET
hi mike yes we do use casters for the fishing, they are the stage after the maggots, and before they turn to flys, you can use them in two ways, firstly when they turn they can be floaters or sinkers, and trhe shell is very brittle and they can be difficult to put on the hook, most of the time you have to use a small hook and bury it in side the caster, you can use them for sea fishing, and they are good for mullet, on the surface, I should imagine that they would be OK to use them on vopi over there in Malta, By the way the best way to keep real casters is to put them in to a poly bag, tie the neck of the bag and bung em in the fridge, dont freeze em cos they go rotten. hope that helps
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: gzarb on November 03, 2009, 21:33:00 CET
what type of maggots are the best type for the bottom fishing??
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: noztheviking on November 03, 2009, 21:48:36 CET
ARE YOU ASKING WHAT TYPE OF MAGGOTS ARE BEST FOR BOTTOM FISHING IN MALTA, OR IN GENERAL, THE BEST ONES ARE THE BIGGEST MOST LIVELY ONE THAT YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON IN MALTA, OVER HERE IN THE UK WE GENERALY USE A MAGGOT BRED OF THE LARGEST TYPE OF FLY CALLED A BLUE BOTTLE, THESE GIVE A LOVELY BIG SOFT MAGGOT THAT IS IDEAL FOR BOTTOM FISHING, ALSO I DONT KNOW IF YOU CAN GET THEM IN MALTA BUT WE USE THE GRUBS OR MAGGOTS OFF THE COMMON WASP, THESE ARE SUPER FOR ANY KIND OF FISHING, BUT ARE VERY FRAGILE AND DONT LAST LONG IN SEA WATER, AND ARE A PAIN IN THE BUTT WHEN YOU COME TO COLLECT THEM, THEY STING,
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: gzarb on November 03, 2009, 22:23:23 CET
tks man
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: mike.d. on November 04, 2009, 05:47:33 CET
noz, i get bigger maggots by using beef heart or pigs liver, i cover them after the first lot of eggs with newspaper to stop any more eggs being laid, but as allways its hit and miss.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: Reelin on November 04, 2009, 08:05:00 CET
Thanks tancred
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: noztheviking on November 04, 2009, 22:07:34 CET
trya chicken breast taken off the bones and skinned and do as you do cover after the first blow of eggs but lay the breast on either clean fine sawdust or if you can get it on maize meal its a lot cleaner and less smell plus when the maggots have consumed all the breast, which they do quite quickly, the maggots are lovely and white and have good tough skins on them, also with them being on sawdust or maize they clean themselves in the sawdust.Does any of you in Malta ever use wasp grubs like I asked before,
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: gzarb on November 09, 2009, 19:51:29 CET
id dud tal pitirossi dawk tajjbin?  li ikunu taht il haruba u ikunu sofor jew qisu hniex american, it tip liehor, jekk gili smajtu bihom ghax mid derha taghhom tajjbin jidru
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: placebo on November 09, 2009, 20:05:47 CET
mal brodu tajbin dawk my friend
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: mike.d. on November 10, 2009, 06:39:50 CET
translate please gzarb
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: gzarb on November 10, 2009, 08:23:45 CET
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id dud tal pitirossi dawk tajjbin?  li ikunu taht il haruba u ikunu sofor jew qisu hniex american, it tip liehor, jekk gili smajtu bihom ghax mid derha taghhom tajjbin jidru
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: gzarb on November 10, 2009, 08:28:29 CET
the maggots that are under the harrubba tree they are good for fishing?because they looks like the american maggots and they are looks good for fishing
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: gzarb on November 10, 2009, 08:44:50 CET
ma nahsibx li ghalo brodu biss ghax qishom hniex america
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: mike.d. on November 11, 2009, 06:12:10 CET
translate please.
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: skip on November 11, 2009, 08:12:16 CET
Quote from: mike.d. on November 11, 2009, 06:12:10 CET
translate please.

Topic started in Maltese mike!
Title: Re: maggots
Post by: mike.d. on November 11, 2009, 19:36:45 CET
ok, sorry skip, its just thst it keeps switching.