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Title: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: framerc on January 31, 2011, 19:24:04 CET
The Director of Fisheries

Dear Dr. Andreina Fenech Farrugia,

Following Associations Annual General Meetings the following issue was brought forward which caused much concern amongst members and committees.

When MFC boat owners renewed their boat license they were told that they are not allowed to fish for Lampuki especially with surface long lines even with limited number of hooks. As far as I know for MFC this gear is not allowed only for Swordfish,Tuna and Albacore and there is no mention of such prohibition in any legal notice.

Kindly clarify this statement.



Thanking you
Joe Carabott Damato

Secretary Federazzjoni Sajjieda Dilettanti Maltin

January 23, 2011 at 9:30 PM





Dr A. Fenech Farrugia


Under Commission Regulation (EC) 1967 of 2006 that concerns management measures for the sustainable exploitation of fishery resources in the

Mediterranean Sea and is a European Council Regulation states clearly in article 17 paragraph 1 the restrictions on the use of Longlines:


'The use of longlines for highly migratory species shall also be prohibited for leisure fisheries.'


The list of Highly migratory species may be found in Annex I of Commission Regulation (EC) 520 of 2007


This legislation is a European Council Regulation and therefore applicable and binding in its entirety in every Member State.





f/ Dr. Fenech Farrugia

Director (Fisheries Control)
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: framerc on January 31, 2011, 19:28:09 CET
Please use the link below for further information and read also article 16

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2007:123:0003:0003:EN:PDF
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on January 31, 2011, 19:50:58 CET
As a forum promoting sustainability and recreational fishing We fully endorse this. Using longlines to catch lampuki is a practice for full time fisherman, who's livelihood depends on the catch. The MFC registration denotes recreational fishing only.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: busumark on January 31, 2011, 23:35:58 CET
Article 16 of these regulations states that sport or recreational fishing is prohibited with the use of towed nets, encircling nets, trammel nets, purse seines, dredges, gill nets, and long lines for Tuna and related species.

The Tuna and related species are foung in Annex 11 and the lampuka (dolphin fish is not mentioned there)

Lampuki is mentioned in Annex 1 as highly migratory species and only in article 16 there is mentioned that recreational and sport fishing is prohibited to use long lines apart from the nets. So i think that Lampuki can still be caught with long-line.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: framerc on February 01, 2011, 05:33:54 CET
Since Lampuki are mentioned in Annex 1 they can`t be caught with longline.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: framerc on February 01, 2011, 05:46:44 CET
Dear All,

It is the custom that the Federation Annual General meeting is held at a premises of one of the Federation Associations. Next AGM will be called March / April. If any Association is interested kindly contact the secretary.

The AGM is open to all amateur fishermen members within the Federation Associations and is an occasion where everyone can discuss all matters from local district needs to General National Fishing Legislation.

I exhort all committees to encourage their respective members to call for such an event.

Thanking you

Dr. Joe Carabott Damato

Secretary Federazzjoni Sajjieda Dilettanti Maltin.

January 31, 2011 at 9:32 AM

Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: ganni on February 01, 2011, 08:47:24 CET
@ gaffer so you call a 30 hook long line a full time practice?? i don't know any propper full timers making use of long lines for lampuki, if yes they are surely making a loss haha
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 01, 2011, 14:45:30 CET
Imrejkba is a totally different way of fishing.  That is traditional, although it is a long line, it is not classified as such since you are not letting the longline out from a boat, but from shore!! and you don't see any pros using L-imrejkba!!!.  Let's be factual here, I am referring to longlines used by dillettanti to maximise the catch once you spot an FAD with a load of lampuki.  Instead of entricing them with a lure, you let out a longline baited with either clamari or tumbrell, and before you know it, all hooks on the longline are taken by lampuki.  You call that recreational fishing!!!!...Same goes for you too Gianni!!!!
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: robby017 on February 01, 2011, 15:10:10 CET
Anzi, should the director of fisheries wish to listen to my concerns and opinions....

This is my email.... robby017@hotmail.com

This is my mobile number... 79851709.

I would be more than happy to find some time and meet up and discuss certain issues which I believe are not being takled.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 01, 2011, 15:11:13 CET
Defamatory remarks have been removed.  The topic is unlocked again for discussion.  Please, be careful how you all express yoursleves.  Since this forum is moderated, the person who is posting, the moderator and the administrator of the forum are exposed to liable.  Especially when you're addressing a Public officer.  So, either substantiate your claim, or don't post at all, as it will be subject to moderation.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 01, 2011, 15:12:54 CET
Quote from: robby017 on February 01, 2011, 15:10:10 CET
Anzi, should the director of fisheries wish to listen to my concerns and opinions….

This is my email…. robby017@hotmail.com

This is my mobile number… 79851709.

I would be more than happy to find some time and meet up and discuss certain issues which I believe are not being talked.


You are Joe citizen, just like myself...if you feel so strongly about it, why don't you call and arrange an appointment !
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: robby017 on February 01, 2011, 15:13:50 CET
That is not how I would use the longline...... remember we can't approach the FADS....... Therefore I would just let it out, on one side I put a small imrejkba and on the other end a botlle full of water as a weight and I let it fish in open water.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 01, 2011, 15:24:26 CET
Whatever.......

Anyway, nothing beats the pull of a lampuka when hooked on a lure, the shear thrill of the fish jumping out of the water, trying desperatey to shake off the hook, and the brilliant display of colours, you'll have to agree Robby, AWSOME!!!
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: robby017 on February 01, 2011, 15:33:30 CET
yes i agree....... but i am also a big fan of longlines..... that suspance of what may be hooked when you're feeling those distant thugs on ur line.....
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: ganni on February 01, 2011, 16:22:33 CET
thats true gaffer and probabbly only a few of you fish lampuki the way i do, with rod and reel sometimes with 0.18mm mono, however a small longline is still a recreational mode of fishing...and it still gives you thrills and is a challenge
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: snapper on February 01, 2011, 17:58:35 CET
hbieb is-sabih tas- sajd mhux li thoss il- gibda biss imma li tmur id-dar b' tuzzana jew tnejn hut, tqassam xi erba lil hbieb u ssajjarhom mal- familja.
Hawn hafna min hu dilettant ta konz biss u wara kollox dan fih teknika wkoll.
Irridu nghidu li bir-rixa tahli ammont kbir ta fuel ghax dejjem ghaddej..fil- waqt li meta titlaq il- konz isserrah il- mutur,tiffranka l- fuel u tgawdi l- kwiet li jkun hemm biss hemm barra.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: placebo on February 01, 2011, 18:26:10 CET
whoever will try to abolish bait line fishing for lampuki is killing a part of Maltese tradition
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: shanook on February 01, 2011, 19:33:05 CET
long lines...... i let out a 25 hook and i love it. As Rob said the thrills are different, i like both trolling and short lines (cant call it long line with 25 max 50 hooks). trolling u see the Puki coming after the bait, slicing in and out of the water jumping after you. and when u bring alongside u see the other Puki circling around. And the shortline seeing the floats popping and the line being pulled down.
Its a shame that these pen pushers dont have an idea of the efforts put into fishing and all they care is to put restrictions to kill the hobby. Sometimes i wonder why I dont sell everything and dedicate myself to criticizing and moaning about everything.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 01, 2011, 20:05:47 CET
Quote from: snapper on February 01, 2011, 17:58:35 CET
hbieb is-sabih tas- sajd mhux li thoss il- gibda biss imma li tmur id-dar b' tuzzana jew tnejn hut, tqassam xi erba lil hbieb u ssajjarhom mal- familja.
Hawn hafna min hu dilettant ta konz biss u wara kollox dan fih teknika wkoll.
Irridu nghidu li bir-rixa tahli ammont kbir ta fuel ghax dejjem ghaddej..fil- waqt li meta titlaq il- konz isserrah il- mutur,tiffranka l- fuel u tgawdi l- kwiet li jkun hemm biss hemm barra.
Snapper, l-argument tieghek ma jamilx sens.  Semmejt ir-ragunijiet kollha hlief li tohrog u tiehu pjacir.  Ser inkun straight mieghek, ghax hekk biss nemmen.  Biex tohrog tistad bil-lanca, u toqod tinkwieta habba l-hsejjes, il-fuel, isserrah il-mutur, habib, tohrog xejn...ghax jien meta nohrog l-unika hsieb li jkolli hu li niehu pjacir. 

Snapper, your arguments do not hold water.  You have cited all reasons here except having fun.  I shall  be quite frank with you, because honesty is the best policy.  if your going out fishing, and worrying about fuel burn, engine noises, giving the engine a break and so on, then take my advise, don't go fishing.  RECREATIONAL fishing is all about having FUN!!!
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 01, 2011, 20:16:20 CET
Quote from: placebo on February 01, 2011, 18:26:10 CET
whoever will try to abolish bait line fishing for lampuki is killing a part of Maltese tradition

Nelson, we've heard that argument before, fom other quarters.  Maltese tradition is all about previaling against all odds.  We prevailed when faced with impossible odds agaist the Ottoman Empire, 300,000 against 30,000 Maltese, and we won.  We prevailed against the Nazi blitz in the second world war, when they tried to bring this island to its knees by droping 1000's of bombs a day and a total shipping embargo.  We previaled against the British Empire and managed to aquire Independence and later on Freedom without shedding one drop of Maltese blood.  That is Maltese tradition .....   We prevail against all odds.  Just like catching Lampuki....we all know its easier to just drop in 20 to 30 baited hooks, and the Lampuki go crazy!!!.....they do that when chasing an artifical bait (lure) never mind what they will do when they sense the real thing!!
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: LapsiBoy on February 01, 2011, 22:24:54 CET
Snapper i like what your say, it's true thats it's nice to catch a couple of fish and share and enjoy a good meal and a longline has a different buzz to it..going early in the morning finding the places setting the lines nicely etc etc...
And about the lampuki it's not the first time that people who troll near fads catch greater amounts caught by a 100hook longline sometimes they dont even touch the bait !! ...everyone with his opinion i guesss.....
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: SEAFOX on February 02, 2011, 07:55:53 CET
Well said Shanook - we who spend so much time and money to enjoy (or try to!) our past time are being  burdened with tons of regulations but when those bureaucrats put a "seasonal" stop for example to miles of "parit/ghazel" in bays, fish size controll plus halting coastal trawling then I shall abide with the laws in full. These days I do not use long surface or bottom lines any more (despite having lots of them in store), however had I been younger I definitely would. When judicial equality is enforced for one and all then the long lines have to be put away by all of us.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: malvizzu on February 02, 2011, 09:47:50 CET
Quote from: The_Gaffer on February 01, 2011, 20:16:20 CET
We prevail against all odds.

Joe - one thing we did not prevail against odds is hunting. I am a keen hunter (or used to be) and the fact that with a strong 25,000 or so registered hunters, we still cannot hunt for turtle doves and quails in April / May as they do in other countries. I am not going into the merit of irregularities here as these also take place when fishing. My point is that with the excuse of the EU, the government can do whatever he likes and if he wants to abolish Lampuki fishing or sports fishing for "S" registered boats, no one is going to stop him. So much for a democratic country/government.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: SEAFOX on February 02, 2011, 13:47:26 CET
Malvizzu - I am not going to start a "hunting" paper trail cos it would never end and it is not the Forum's topic, but guys do allow me to say something small about hunting and legislation... Yes you are 100% correct. We come from a family that has hunted for gamiem & summien and other species since time immemorial both in Gozo & Malta. I gave up this sport here a few years ago cos it's not as productive as fishing, plus we are being persecuted continuously by the law. Indeed our government has gone well over the limits; it appears that by being "holier than thou" the EU may give us some special decoration or funds for practically eliminating both the hunting & fishing for all delattanti. As of late I have been "forced" to go hunting to the UK for wood pigeon, ducks, ring doves etc., although controlled by season you can practically shoot at anything. Other finch species (Ta Zebbug u Vrieden) are hunted & trapped in France/mainland Europe and can be found on the menus at some restaurants. Its "Only In Malta" that stupid, tough legislation is implemented to us delattanti and its about time we stand up and make our voice heard. Mela tajjeb ta.... if I am found to have a tiny Tunnag in my boat I am taken to court & fined....why?....species "conservation" is the explanation. Result - make way for those greedy businessmen to farm & fatten the BFT who in turn can make tons of money selling the fish to Japan!! Ara veru Gvern tal Mick Mouse. It's about time that we fight this issue real hard, and to those who are keen to fish for Lampuki (keeping a "delettant's" perspective in mind) by any method they desire.....I say... go for it mates!!
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 02, 2011, 14:29:43 CET
This is a very interesting topic, one which I am passionate about.  But we cannot allow our emotions to overflow on this forum.  There are 2 sides of the coin as regards legislation, conservation and recreational fishing.  No one said, (not even the law, EU) that we can't fish for lampuki.  Article 16 states that we, as registered recreational fishermen (MFC) cannot use longlines to catch Lampuki.  I agree, we are recreational fishermen.  Our motto is and always will be respect for the fish we seek.  I don't think the use of long lines by us or any other fishing category would have any impact on Lampuki population.  It is a high migratory species, and numerous studies have as yet not identified which path their migrationn takes them, whether is W to E or E to W, or in from the Atlantic and out via the Suez Cannal or vice versa.  But recreational fishing is not about maximising your catch.  That is my argument here.  It is not about using longlines or stuff like that.  It's about the thrill of hooking up a Lampuka using an artificial lure. 
@Malvizzu + Seafox.  As hunters, you knew exactly what the consequences of joining the EU would be.  Yet the whole hunting lobby believed the opposite.  Again, in 2008, you had another chance at rectifying the situation, but you still stuck to your guns.  I'm not saying that I am against or for hunting.  I have no stand on the matter. I do have a stand though on protected species, species which are rapidly decreasing in population.  Sometimes I wonder whether the pro hunting lobby shot itself in the foot.  However, as I said, I have no opinion on this matter.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: placebo on February 02, 2011, 14:53:59 CET
what will define a longline? are you sure 10 baited hooks is a longline?

there are so much questions about this! this is going to end up in a silly thing ..... like what happened with the trailers parked at sea. Silly people writing laws ... destructing all the Maltese traditions and trying to generate some money to ensure their wages on the long run!

Another thing is what will happen with the money generated? this should go to sport fishing people by right who care for environment catch and release. Where is the help from goverment to help in good sport fishing people to compete abroad?

Silly Malta being managed by deficient people (DEFICENTI BIL MALTI) ..... now erase my comments if you like!
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 02, 2011, 15:21:07 CET
No Nelson, I won't erase that, there is nothing defamatory in what you said.  What you say is true and factual. We have a Fisheries Control Division who have no vessel to carry out inspections, and I fully agree with you that there should be a fund which supports sport fishermen to represent our country abroad.  It seems that the only organisation that gets these funds are the KOM (Kumitat Olimpiku Malti) for Maltese to be represented in the Olympics. But I'm not surprised, in clay pigeon shooting, William Chetcuti has represented our country with pride a number of times,  and won many honours...just ask William who paid for his expenses when going abroad.  thats right, it was out of his own pocket.

Nelson, tiftahliex kotba please~~~
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: malvizzu on February 02, 2011, 15:28:48 CET
One thing is for sure in Malta - certain laws are enforced only on the average worker, hunters and recreational fisherman. Those big heads who have the power do as they please. A percentage of the money hunters pay for the licence to keep and to carry where supposed to go for a project where the government with the help of the hunters lobby were supposed to start breeding quails and the likes in order to release in the wild for hunting. So placebo, if you are hoping for any money from the government to go for sports fishing people, keep on dreaming. It's only a wishful thinking. Other bigger countries are blessed with birds and fish in abundance for the recreational person to enjoy.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 02, 2011, 15:59:58 CET
@malvizzu:  re your point on licence fees and agreements with Gov. - So why hasn't the GKNK taken the Gov to task on this.  What are they waiting for?...more promises that the Spring hunting season will happen this time!!??
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: malvizzu on February 02, 2011, 16:06:47 CET
Beats me how nothing have ever materialised. But as things always happen in Malta, whenever there's an election there's always some hidden agenda that we never come to know off.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 02, 2011, 16:19:58 CET
And that's what I'm trying to avoid for the MFF members.  Too many rumours flying around lately, especially on vessel registration and fishing rights, licences and fishing rights, fishermen being stopped from fishing in particular areas, longlines vs shortlines, by-catch and retainability of catch.  These items and others will be discussed during the MFF's next meeting with the fisheries control division on Tuesday 8 February.  We need some clear answers, and followup written confirmation. 
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: placebo on February 02, 2011, 19:41:02 CET
well, i just paid my MFC licence by post as i normally do and no one told me no longlining etc ..... maybe just rumours
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 02, 2011, 19:58:35 CET
No Placebo, they are not rumours, look at the beginning of this thread, there is correspondence between the federation of recreational fishermen and the Fisheries control division. 
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: placebo on February 03, 2011, 14:24:19 CET
this is going to be very ugly ..... what if i'm fishing with just a single hook on a baited line?

Are the experts defining this as longlining?
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: shanook on February 03, 2011, 14:39:06 CET
no placebo if u are using a paternoster...three/five hooks on a line is that long lining LOL
so bil-Hjut ma nistawx
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 03, 2011, 14:48:11 CET
As I said in previous posts.  we are meeting the Fisheries Control Division this coming Tuesday to discuss certain aspects connected to the Oris Big Game Tournament, but I have also set the agenda to discuss other fishing related matters, namely the interpretation and impact of regulation on recreational fishing activities. Will keep you all posted on the outcome of discussions.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 03, 2011, 15:16:27 CET
Its open to interpretation guys.  What consititues a long line, is it becasue it's baited?, number of hooks deployed...length of line?...I have no idea.  The beurocrats in Brussels set minimum guidelines, then its up to each member state to implement.  It is for this reason that I strongly suggest:
1.  We keep up the goodwill with the local authorities (this has already paid off when we managed to lobby for a consession for BFT catch & release)
2.  Air our views in an assertive manner (by being firm and positive)
3.  Collaborate with the authorities and keep the discussion going
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: placebo on February 03, 2011, 17:12:35 CET
agree gaffer ..... good luck with the meetings then! good approach my friend
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: blueskip on February 03, 2011, 20:00:56 CET
Quote from: FREEDIVE on January 31, 2011, 20:24:19 CET
No wonder some full-timers complain that they dont make ends meet :o This method goes back to the pre-internal combustion engine days. Using oars, sail and hemp-twine  ;)
Well said Freedive too many rules/regulations/alloed days at sea etc were made using sail powered boats, hand hauled nets,polypropyline nets etc, nowadays with massive diesels engines, towing huge nets, laying Kms of monofilament gill nets, & using electronics to find the shoals its about time NEW LEGISLATION was introduced taking into account 2011 equipment & technology, THEN you would here the commercial sector whinge!
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: ganni on February 03, 2011, 20:38:25 CET
@ FREEDIVE

whats that big fish in your avatar?? it looks as big as you are!!! wish i catch something as big as that one day, or at least half its size  :P
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: benri on February 04, 2011, 08:30:46 CET
@ Ganni - Xi darba ghidlu jghallmek tkanta ukoll gann :D
Freedive and Ganni - Ghadni qed nistenna l-kors jibda jien!

@ Ganni - Some time tell heim to teach you how to sing too :D
Freedive and Ganni - I'm still waiting for the course to start!
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: snapper on February 04, 2011, 11:10:03 CET
@the_gaffer jekk qed tahseb li jien ma hlejtx eluf ta euros petrol sejjer zball.
Jekk qed tahseb li ma ghamiltx snin b magni inboard storbjuzi sejjer zball ukoll. Jien dillettant daqsek jew aktar ta kull tip ta sajd anke sajd avventuruz izzejjed li l- probabilita li taqbad hi zghira jew xejn.
Jien minhiex qed niddefenndi s-short lines (ghax ghamel tajjeb min sejjhilhom hekk) ghax immur nistad hekk ...imma nifhem xi jhoss min imur b' dan it-tip ta sajd. Kbira hafna li sajjied ma jiddefendix tip ta sajd li mhux distruttiv sempliciment ghax hu ma jmurx hekk.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: LapsiBoy on February 04, 2011, 12:06:52 CET
Prosit
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 04, 2011, 12:42:40 CET
@Snapper: Kullhadd jaf li d-delizju tas-sajd jiswa hafna flus.  Kieku kullhadd investa l-flus li jonfoq f-irkaptu tas sajd u jixtri l-hut mis-suq, kieku kollha kemm ahna iffrankajna hafna flus.
Miniex ser noqod nidhol fl-argument minn hu l-aktar deletant tas-sajd minni ghal minnek.  Dik hija suggettiva u kullhadd jara tieghu.  Pero, bhala sajjied delettant, jien inhosni nonqos lejn dak li nemmen jien jekk ma nespremiehx ukoll.  U appuntu ghalhekk nargumenta l-punt tieghi, ghax hekk nemmen.  Jista jkun li dak li nemmen jien, ma japlikax ghalih, jew haddiehor li esprima ruhu hawn.  B'daqshekk ma gara xejn.  Lanqas ma jien ser nimponi fuq hadd iehor it-twenmin tieghi, u ghaldaqstant ma nistenniex haddiehor jaghmel hekk mieghi.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: placebo on February 04, 2011, 15:21:50 CET
fishing for lampuki with just a 10 hook baited line should stay - i do not see the reason behind abolishing such fishing methods!

they will have a hell of a job monitoring how such practice should not be carried out at sea.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 04, 2011, 15:49:55 CET
I would not classify a ten hook baited line as a long line!!!.  Then it would really become rediculous.  These are the things which will be under discussion:
What classifies a long line?
How long is long?
Number of hooks?
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: robby017 on February 04, 2011, 16:04:48 CET
According to Wikipedia:

QuoteLongline fishing is a commercial fishing technique. It uses a long line, called the main line, with baited hooks attached at intervals by means of branch lines called "snoods". A snood is a short length of line, attached to the main line using a clip or swivel, with the hook at the other end. Longlines are classified mainly by where they are placed in the water column. This can be at the surface or at the bottom. Lines can also be set by means of an anchor, or left to drift. Hundreds or even thousands of baited hooks can hang from a single line. Longliners commonly target swordfish, tuna, halibut, sablefish and many other species.[1]

In some unstable fisheries, such as the Patagonian toothfish, fishermen may be limited to as few as 25 hooks per line. In contrast, commercial longliners in certain robust fisheries of the Bering Sea and North Pacific generally run over 2,500 hand-baited hooks on a single series of connected lines many miles in length.[2]Longlines can be set to hang near the surface (pelagic longline) to catch fish such as tuna and swordfish or along the sea floor (demersal longline) for groundfish such as halibut or cod. Longliners fishing for sablefish, also referred to as black cod, occasionally set gear on the sea floor at depths exceeding 1,100 metres (3,600 ft) using relatively simple equipment. Longlines with traps attached rather than hooks can be used for crab fishing in deep waters.

Longline fishing is prone to the incidental catching and killing of seabirds, sea turtles, and sharks. Otherwise, compared to other fishing techniques such as bottom trawling, longline fishing is less destructive to bottom habitats. It generally has good species selectivity and low fuel consumption.[3]
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: snapper on February 04, 2011, 16:10:51 CET
Gaffer jien illum nahsibha hekk:

Is- sajd joghgobni u rrid nibqa nzommu bhala delizzju. Qatt ma kont inqis kemm qed nohrog u kemm qed naqbghad.
Biss illum inhoss li bniedem ghandu jmur biex jiehu pjacir imma juza sew ir- rizorsi.... jigifieri jekk hela 60 euro fuel ..halli ma jaqbadx b' 60 euro hut imma ghal menu xi jsajjar.
Jien mort 4 darbiet ghal lampuki s-sena l- ohra bir-rixa 2 ma qbadt xejn u 2 qbaddna 12 kull darba. Hlejt 240 euro petrol. Issa kieku forsi (ghax stajt) fettili fejn sibt il- lampuki tfajt il- konz..kieku jaf f- dawk l- 4 darbiet kont naqbad aktar hut bl- istess jew inqas ammont ta petrol u kont inkun qed nuza r-rizorsi ahjar.

Il- hut kont inqassmu zgur ghax jien ma nzommux hafna fil- freezer.
Jien nirrispetta l- idejat tieghek u bl- ebda mod ma nehodha kontrik jekk ma naqblux...ghandek dritt


Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: snapper on February 04, 2011, 16:18:43 CET
Sew qed tghidu: il- bicca hi x' tifhem biha konz tal- lampuki. meta wiehed jimmagina li bhal- tat-tonn jew pixxispad bil- fors ikun kontra. Imma l- konz tal- lampuki, jien minn dejjem nafu bi ftit snanar.. 20 jew 30 kien jaghmlu missieri. Probbabli l- awtoritajiet ukoll lanqas jafu b' din il- bicca u b' naqra rieda tajba ghandhom mnejn jifhmu.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: Gogo on February 04, 2011, 18:27:35 CET
Hi everyone. It is the first time I am writing on Forum. I am pleased to see the different suggestions and question which most amateur  fishermen bring up. Remember that this issue on Lampuki Regulation deals only with surface longline (konz tal-Lampuki). I agree with The Gaffer asking what defines Lampuki longline, length and number of hooks. Note that the Federation of Amateur Fishing representative on the Fisheries Board is calling that this issue be placed on the next Fisheries Board meeting agenda with possible other pending topics. As always since the early nineties the Federation by means of its Executve committee having achieved necessary information from its affiliated Associations discuss with the relevant Authorities controversal cases that arise. This happened when the former PTF were to be abolished and through some real hard work the MFC category was created. During the years several other issues arose and presently similar work is  underway with MT (MMA) regarding moorings.
I wish to add that every amateur fishermen should join in a local Fishing Association and actively that part during local and Federation meetings and activities so forming one united body when our hobby is under attack.
All the Best.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: The_Gaffer on February 04, 2011, 18:54:37 CET
Gogo;  I can assure you that the MFF is a voice to be reckoned with.  We represent over 1880 members, and we have always been treated with respect when engaging with the local authorities.  We do not classify as a club, or association, howver the MFF is the only recreational fishing entity in Malta affiliated to the International Game Fishing Association (IGFA), which has representatives in very authoritorial and influential fora such as ICATT.  We are also members of Big Game Italia, who are a very strong lobby group in the EU, and we'll soon have our very own wing Malta Big Game with the help of our associates. 
We were very influential last year with the authorities in the granting of a consession for BFT on a catch and release basis.  Actually, it was through representations and meetings held by the MFF administation and local fisheries authorities, that this happened.  All our members were grated this consession. 
As you yourself are quite aware, we are a very active forum, backed by loyal members and appreciated by our benefactors and sponsors.
We not only discuss fishing activities and matters here, but we also discuss and review equipment, tackle, boats inboards and outboards, spear fishing.  Our members here find a haven of information and are always sure to find help when required
We look forward in forging the same relationship with the Federation as we have with all our stakeholders so that together, we can move forward as one.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: snapper on February 04, 2011, 20:23:38 CET
Gogo meta tkellimna fuq x kienu qed jghidulna meta nhallsu l- licenzja ghidtlek li jien saqsejthom ghal konz tal- kahli,lizz,imsell,kubrit etc u qalulna :tal- wicc xejn. Issa hareg li bil- miktub hemm imnizzell li i- ispeci migratorji biss ma jistghux jinqabdu mis-sajjied rikreattiv bil- konz tal- wicc(u ghandna l- lista ta l- ispeci). Ghalhekk nixtieq li kieku meta tkunu qed tiddiskutu dan is-suggett tqajjem dan il- punt.
U l- istess haga dawn il- knuz ikollhom ammont zghir hafna ta snanar.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: bigboy on February 04, 2011, 20:50:05 CET
Jien personali l ahwa darba biss naf li tlaqt konz tal lampuki. xi sentejn ilu konna hrigna xi 4 mili fil grirgal u sihbi telaq konz ta 100 sunnara al lampuki u kalah mal kurrent u konna qbadna wahda mdaqsa.

Pero ma narax ghaliex ma tistax tuza konz ghal lampuki. L awtoritajiet ahjar jaraw min jalaq il port ta marsamxett flaxijiet bl ghazel ghal plamti
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: malvizzu on February 05, 2011, 19:36:18 CET
Quote from: bigboy on February 04, 2011, 20:50:05 CET
L awtoritajiet ahjar jaraw min jalaq il port ta marsamxett flaxijiet bl ghazel ghal plamti

Mhux qed tghid hazin Big. Illum mort San Pawl il-Bahar (il-Barracudas) biex forsi nistad mill-art izda kien hemm bahar jibla d-dinja. Lanqas 50 metru l-barra mill-moll, kien hemm dghajsa qed ittella parit. Bdew itellghu mill-bagi ta' gewwa nett u baqghu sejrin jigbdu kwazi sal-Fekruna - ghalqu l-bajja kompletament. Dawn misshom jaraw l-awtoritajiet.

U jekk hawn xi hadd jghidli missek irrapportajt nghidlu li meta ccempel l-ghassa ta' San Pawl jghidulek cempel l-ghassa ta' Bugibba u kontra. Minghand Qajfas ghal ghand Pilatu u kulhadd jaghmel li jrid.
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: busumark on February 05, 2011, 20:29:19 CET
From the 16th February to 14th July they can throw nets wherever they want except the grand harbour which is prohibited all year round.

So Malvizzu they can close all the bay from barracudas to fekruna and they are doing nothing illegal.

But this doesn't make as much harm to the sea as having a 10 hook line for lampuki
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: ganni on February 05, 2011, 22:25:04 CET
Busumark is right... you can't report them, they are doing nothing wrong "accoring" to the law
Title: Re: Lampuki Fishing Regulation.
Post by: kris on August 16, 2011, 15:39:04 CET
guys...have the authorities clarified what makes a longline + all that was discussed  in this thread?