Hi everyone, I'm getting back into fishing after a 35 year break when I was 10 or 12 years old so I consider myself a newbie. Got myself a new rod and reel last month, so far my son and myself went fishing 3 times so far with no luck. Now I'm not trying to catch the biggest fish or the most, if we were to catch one or two we would be more than happy.
We are fishing from land, not a boat and have tried Kalkara and Valletta by the Pixxeria. I am using a DIP Dyna-Strong 400/50, 4.00 MT. 5 sections DXR double X carbon power 20-50g (any info on this rod would help)
and a old spinning reel (new one on the way), for bait we have tried bibi, korean worms and gambli. Still no luck, but maybe it will change.
If anyone can offer some advice it would be more than helpfull.
THANKS
you should try rock fishing early morning , st andrews / bahar ic cghaq area, korean worms should do...
Thanks, will do
Quote from: Canadian_Charlie on February 12, 2011, 20:18:24 CET
Hi everyone, I'm getting back into fishing after a 35 year break when I was 10 or 12 years old so I consider myself a newbie. Got myself a new rod and reel last month, so far my son and myself went fishing 3 times so far with no luck. Now I'm not trying to catch the biggest fish or the most, if we were to catch one or two we would be more than happy.
We are fishing from land, not a boat and have tried Kalkara and Valletta by the Pixxeria. I am using a DIP Dyna-Strong 400/50, 4.00 MT. 5 sections DXR double X carbon power 20-50g (any info on this rod would help)
and a old spinning reel (new one on the way), for bait we have tried bibi, korean worms and gambli. Still no luck, but maybe it will change.
If anyone can offer some advice it would be more than helpfull.
THANKS
Hello Charlie,
I personally have returned to fishing,three years ago, after a break of almost two decades. The technologies and supplies available these days are amazing, and while some systems and techniques haven't change, many other things did.
So the first thing I would suggest to you is to get acquainted with the new equipment available out there. Secondly firmly decide of what type of shore angling you want to practice, decision based on what type of fish you want to catch, what time of day you can fish and mostly to what spots/locations you are willing to get to.
With these two things set in mind, equip yourself with what you will require for the correct and successfull practice of the angling discipline you choose.
In my opinion, there are five main categories of shore angling (rod&reel) which you can practice;
Bottom Fishing (PAF)
Rock Fishing
Surf Casting
Spinning
Ledgering (Bolognese or English type (la 'ngliza))
All of the above require different equipment and different set ups, except maybe rock fishing and surfcasting which mostly share the same type of equipment.
The less expensive equipment is that for entry level Bottom Fishing. With 35€ you should have a very basic tackle which can easily yield some very acceptable results. But do not expect huge catches.
Spinning is mind blowing once you get used to it and you have your first catches, but I would rather start with something else, cause if you have an endless negative series you will regret getting into it risking to lose interest in fishing in general. Mind you... when you catch a fish at spinning, chances are that it is going to be of a very nice size.
Baits are not the same and are dependant on technique/set-up.
Anyway, let me know more of what you have in mind, maybe I can help more...
As a note, I am mainly into rock fishing these days, with some spinning put in and bottom fishing every now and then.
cheers
Joe
Quote from: ForTuna on February 13, 2011, 15:34:38 CET
you should try rock fishing early morning , st andrews / bahar ic cghaq area, korean worms should do...
proper rock fishing is not practiced with korean worms
then what do you recommend?
Quote from: robby017 on February 17, 2011, 11:35:28 CET
then what do you recommend?
Quote from: J_Z on February 17, 2011, 11:34:42 CET
Quote from: ForTuna on February 13, 2011, 15:34:38 CET
you should try rock fishing early morning , st andrews / bahar ic cghaq area, korean worms should do...
proper rock fishing is not practiced with korean worms
I think what your say is stupid no offence. But there is no proper bait for rock fishing. I've tried them all (squid, mackerel, sardines , korean worms , american worms, 'ta limperjal' and you name it....
I think most the fish that i've caught (big and small) have been caught on korean worms and am impressed what a wide variety of fish seem to like them ( Ive even caught a nice lobster on them) the thing is that it's live bait ...
And again i repeat there is no proper bait for rock fishing, one has to experiment and try to know not just what he thinks....I caught loads of fish on korean worms even from deep places so i highly reccomend them as i always carry a box of them when rock fishing!
Quote from: LapsiBoy on February 17, 2011, 11:44:08 CET
Quote from: robby017 on February 17, 2011, 11:35:28 CET
then what do you recommend?
Quote from: J_Z on February 17, 2011, 11:34:42 CET
Quote from: ForTuna on February 13, 2011, 15:34:38 CET
you should try rock fishing early morning , st andrews / bahar ic cghaq area, korean worms should do...
proper rock fishing is not practiced with korean worms
I think what your say is stupid no offence. But there is no proper bait for rock fishing. I've tried them all (squid, mackerel, sardines , korean worms , american worms, 'ta limperjal' and you name it....
I think most the fish that i've caught (big and small) have been caught on korean worms and am impressed what a wide variety of fish seem to like them ( Ive even caught a nice lobster on them) the thing is that it's live bait ...
And again i repeat there is no proper bait for rock fishing, one has to experiment and try to know not just what he thinks....I caught loads of fish on korean worms even from deep places so i highly reccomend them as i always carry a box of them when rock fishing!
dude... before claiming others are stupid, can you define rock fishing?
And the target thing too...maybe some fish prefer some nice bloody mackerel to a worm but yet again i've been proved wrong over and over by the fish...
( Lippijiet li isoltu naqbad bit tumbreel qbat bil hniex kif ukoll gringijiet uanke cipulazza rajt tinqabad bil hniex !)
But still the best thing to do is to try and mix your bait
I didnt say you'r stupid..what your wrote is
Quote from: LapsiBoy on February 17, 2011, 11:46:28 CET
I didnt say you'r stupid..what your wrote is
still haven't answered, can you define rock fishing please?
I never said korean worms are not a good bait, anzi, I had excellent results on them with catches in the 1kg range.... imma for me you are confusing rock fishing with bottom fishing......
here's the best explanation :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_fishing
Rock fishing is bottom fishing. That's what i think and my search on google has shown that rock fishing is actually using a paternoster or running ledger to target bottom dwelling fish...better know as bottom fishing for some
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o81wF2z0Ymw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXZs9dJybH0&feature=related
Quote from: LapsiBoy on February 17, 2011, 11:53:39 CET
Rock fishing is bottom fishing. That's what i think and my search on google has shown that rock fishing is actually using a paternoster or running ledger to target bottom dwelling fish...better know as bottom fishing for some
rock fishing is an evolution of bottom fishing... but as a matter of fact it is not the same as bottom fishing.
The equipment and tackle for rock fishing are to be heavier than those for bottom fishing. In fact nowadays rock fishing shares the equipment with surfcasting rather than with bottom fishing.
Terminal tackle, same as for that used in surfcasting is also on the heavier side.
Rockfishing especially in Malta is independent of location/spot but more dependant on equipment set-up. What I mean is you can deploy your rockfishing equipment in a particular spot inside the harbour.
Due to the heavier tackle, chunkier/larger baits are used. As a matter of fact, honestly, do you see a korean worm on a 2/0 hook??
Many prefer live baits on their rock fishing tackle, my personal favourite is live mullett (bobin) or bogue.
Further to what I've said rock fishing can also be practiced with floats targeting surface fish such as Serra or Accola.
Yes i bait korean worms on 1/0 and 2/0 hooks. And like your saying rock fishing is bottom fishing..just heavier tackle like i use since i also go from cliffs
Quote from: LapsiBoy on February 17, 2011, 11:59:54 CET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXZs9dJybH0&feature=related
hehe, the author of this wonderful clip, Daniele, is a very good friend of mine, with who I share many interests. Great Angler, with the capital A! :)
Quote from: LapsiBoy on February 17, 2011, 12:05:44 CET
Yes i bait korean worms on 1/0 and 2/0 hooks. And like your saying rock fishing is bottom fishing..just heavier tackle like i use since i also go from cliffs
well, so basically we are disagreeing just on bait..... personally i wouldn't bait korean on those sizes of hooks.
I didnt tell you to..i catch fish like that so i'l keep doing it.. hope it works tonight ;)
Quote from: LapsiBoy on February 17, 2011, 12:27:34 CET
I didnt tell you to..i catch fish like that so i'l keep doing it.. hope it works tonight ;)
and if you did tell me I wouldn't listen anyway... i'm satisfied as things are ;)
:) The sad truth is that the situation in malta is very bad and you can have the best bait in the world but still wont catch if there's no fish ! Especially this MONTH what a waste of bait ..anzi kultant inlaqtu huta
Quote from: LapsiBoy on February 17, 2011, 12:53:21 CET
:) The sad truth is that the situation in malta is very bad and you can have the best bait in the world but still wont catch if there's no fish ! Especially this MONTH what a waste of bait ..anzi kultant inlaqtu huta
at least you can go off shore...
well... this month wasn't a total loss.... could have been better imma at least got something
with korean worms Ive caught a nice cippulazza 1kg.260g . Lapsiboy you know the place ;)
Yes mate i know very very nice place heh ;)
No no it wasn't a total loss for sure but next to other months not so good. But still i got a nice xirghin of about 800 gramms and another lipp of same weight the last 2 times i went, but only 1 fish ... now we see we keep going till we get the big one hah!
very awesome !..
I dont know the reason for that ''reel/winch'' why it isn't mounted on the rod. Maybe because there are extreme depths which a normal reel cannot fish at? Or maybe they use it to lift the fish from the surface to the are they are fishing from? i dont know but they're good at what they do !
i think we went a bit off topic here..... hehe... must agree with the awsome video.... real stuff eh!!!!!
Quote from: LapsiBoy on February 17, 2011, 11:59:54 CET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXZs9dJybH0&feature=related
that was the best video on youtube i had ever seen on fishing in my opinion
Great video