hi,
I am new to spearfishing and I am going to give it a try now.
But I am confused what setup to start up with...
What size of a spear gun? do I start with a bullet or "froxxna" ? air or elastic ?
fins ?
Mask and snorkel ?
and a signal buoy
I am not going to buy a wet suit at the moment because it is a waste of money if i'll give up spearfishing but if ill like it I buy one the next step.
I am trying spearfishing in coastal areas.....
any more equipment is needed on my first try ?
Help will be more than appreciated.
Actually the wetsuit is not a waste of money.... 1st signal... always
I would rather think that buying a gun at this point in time is a waste of money.....
before you should check that you can dive and equalise without problems... and develop some freediving skills... and you would enjoy spearfishing then...
Else my friend you will end up being pissed off because you cannot catch fish and start spearing small fish that are not yet good to be eaten...
We all did mistakes (myself included), you have the opportunity to learn from our mistakes. At some point in time in my younger days i used to go just freediving to improve my apnea skills. - so that i can be spearfishing one day.
Hope it helps you.
Very,very sensible advice.
thx granitu for the help....
first i have to do some free dives to achieve some skills and longer breathe....
What about salvimar ?
Quote from: bukkun1992 on June 19, 2013, 13:34:23 CET
thx granitu for the help....
first i have to do some free dives to achieve some skills and longer breathe....
What about salvimar ?
Salvimar is a very good brand - not very reasonable prices but you get for what you pay for. The guy of Salpa Sub (the shop who imports salvimar in Malta) an italian is an excellent source of information my friend.
He is also an expert in Ballistics and in an unbiased opinion... he is the most technical person on spearfishing equipment in Malta.
Had the opportunity to go to his shop a month ago and was impressed with the technical knowledge of the person. He sells on facts.
Before breathing, focus on the equalisation technique. Longer breathhold at sea is mostly achieved when one is relaxed and performing the dive relaxed.... it will come naturally then.
Lastly, respect the sea and the sea will respect you back.
can anyone give me some more ideas on equipment and more ....
help pls :)
as mask for spearfishing I find them good the ones which are low volume and snorkel I have one with valve to eliminate water from getting in mouth ecc.
Fins I bought a set from the italian man at wied il-ghajn, made from soft plastic which are long and have a special feature which helps you move easily in water was around 75e very good for deep dives.
I began spearfishing using a 50cm gun but in 2 month i upgraded for 75cm gun using bullet, first you swear a bit not hitting the fish but then by time you make great accurate shots.
if using bullet buy the 'virga shiha mux bullet kamin' more stable and accurate.
There is too kuch to say mate. Just ask one by one what u want to. hear
My mask is salvimar and the model starts with g....... It is all black.I bought a snorkel with valve too.
Fins I have bought some amateurs one but I see how I go and I replace them .
Regards the harpoon....I was thinking of starting off with a 75....(as many people I talked to suggested)
any good brands or models ?
attach a reel to it ?
start with a bullet ? or a fork type ?
i have a beuchat 75cm, cressi comache 75(just bought) and an omer cayman 100cm
for 75 I go with cressi, the comache i found it very good and very strong and accurate made great shots.
also omer are very good
there are different brands which are quite good.
Hi bukkun I think that your are going a bit to fast . I think its better if you do as Granitu said if you dont want to waste money!!!!!
All brands make good spearguns but you have to learn and practise with the gun to make accurate shots . I use beuchat , mares , spora . they are all good guns but dont pretend that becouse you buy a good brand gun or expensive gun you are going to catch more fish!!!!! First you have to learn the first things --- how fish reacts ,what type of fish you hunt, what fish to look for in different seasons . then you start learning the different techniques of hunting, LEARN ABOUT THE DANGERS IN THIS HOBBY and then at this point you start spending money on the equipment
If you buy a 55 cm gun its only use is when you search fish under the rocks so it is best armed with a fork, then if you buy a 100cm + it is not good to use under the rocks but for open water shots so its better if its is armed with a bullet head and a reel. If you buy a 75 you can use it for agguato technique , and also to search fish under rocks ;) about the reel on a 75 I think its a total waste of money!!!!
Learn to hunt and then start investing in your hobby
thanks guys....
I understand what you are trying to say that first I have to learn how to react,bring some skills and so on before the shoot.....
But I am not that new to underwater life.....I used to go with my friends for sea urchins,octopus and targeting some fish with "froxxna"
Now I am am going to buy the suit.....I am mainly swimming in summer because in winter and colder days I practice another hobby.
What mm ?
Full suit ?
black or camo ?
Gloves?
and about the weight belt ?
How much weight do I need ? I weigh 73 kg and I am 172cm tall
I am buying the suit and weight and trying to gain some skills and be a little bit confident with sea.,..then I'll buy the gun like everyone suggested...
You want an advice my friend? It is not worth all the effort and money you invest in at this stage that our seas have come to. The Maltese islands immediate coastal waters are so poor that you might end up delusive. Think well before you start investing money and time in this sport.
damateur m'ghandi xejn kontrik habib....imma nies bhalek hawn hafna li dejjem jaqtaw il-qlub.....jien minix nippretenti qbid kbir onestament......just ninzel inqatta naha hin..inehhi naqa stresss u li jigi merhba bih....l-aqwa li dejjem nitghallem u naghmel hilti.
bukkun,baghtlek messagg persunali,u kif jigri kwazi dejjem,l-anqas biss risposta lura.No problem...............good luck.
sry ma batlekx caldaland...il-dak badtlu imma ghadu ma kellimnix :)
ok bukkun............dak ilu ftit tijiem ma jkun online. Dak jigwidak zgur.
Snorkel with valve throw it away now.
Normal snorkel always, and also remove it from the mouth whilst diving.
In summer 3mm suit full, either black or camo, no difference.
Gloves always.
Weight buy a rubber belt, and weight you have to decide and try. In shallows you will have to use a bit more weight, but if you surpass the 10 meter then you have to be carefull, and be + buoyant at 10 meters.
If you want to buy, and need some help, go to Jason at M&A Bugibba, and he sells good stuff at reasonable prices, and he also used to practice this sport, and so he can be of very good help.
baghira why snorkles with valves are not good for this sport i always use them. what is the difference from a common one to snorkle with valve in this sport?
You are far mate ......... very very far..............
seems better you take previous advice and practice first......
Fish are very very sensitive... They sense the smallest noise, vibration, pulse etc. with their lateral line.....
Imagine all the bubbles and hiss and noise etc of that valve you have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Throw it away or use it for swimming man...... and get a common pipe......
You cannot ask so many things, and understand all........
Practice first, and then you will notice some things as the months pass by....
ic thanks baghira will remove it than and get a normal pipe. Thanks
and not all normal pipes are good... avoid the ones that when you blow forcefully whistle a little. They are practically an alarm to breams that a diver is around. learnt from experience
Quote from: bukkun1992 on June 21, 2013, 14:41:14 CET
damateur m'ghandi xejn kontrik habib....imma nies bhalek hawn hafna li dejjem jaqtaw il-qlub.....jien minix nippretenti qbid kbir onestament......just ninzel inqatta naha hin..inehhi naqa stresss u li jigi merhba bih....l-aqwa li dejjem nitghallem u naghmel hilti.
sewwa qed tghid jien bhallek limportanti li niehu pjacir, li tmur u tara dak il gmiel bizejjed hu imbaghad hekk naghbad xi haga tkun ta iktar pjacir .
granitu, do you have a suggestion for a pipe you talked about? thanks
Find a pipe made of silicone which is stiff and flexible enough at the same time. Good dive shops have them
expo valletta had also some very nice and cheap pipe...
black silicone....... forgot the name of this new brand..........
ok thanks vry for the replies will pop up anny moment to but one. ceers
Mares cressi omer and beaichat all have them. There is salvimar too
one question...it doesen't do with spearfishing.....what knot do you use?
to to joint the main line ( medda ) with a fergha .....using paternoster rig.....
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any one of you heard with the brand name of harpoons arrow ? any feedback ?
Quote from: bukkun1992 on July 01, 2013, 15:58:20 CET
any one of you heard with the brand name of harpoons arrow ? any feedback ?
Nope mate who's selling them. I would look into the type of material it is made of. Aluminium is very common. What is the size of the gun and it is new or an oldish gun?
By any chance, the trigger mechanism is demka? It is the most common brand for trigger mechanism, widely used by other brands and relatively safe.
Quote from: bukkun1992 on June 21, 2013, 14:41:14 CET
damateur m'ghandi xejn kontrik habib....imma nies bhalek hawn hafna li dejjem jaqtaw il-qlub.....jien minix nippretenti qbid kbir onestament......just ninzel inqatta naha hin..inehhi naqa stresss u li jigi merhba bih....l-aqwa li dejjem nitghallem u naghmel hilti.
Mhux ghax jaqtaw qalb in nies imma nahseb minn jibda sport bhal dan ma iridx jittrenja fuq li jigi u jispara fuq kollox imma jirrispetta l bahar kif qalu shabna.
inkella jigri bhal kacca probabbli. illum kulhadd jista jixtri harpoon nispera li dan ma kienx zball. jekkk kulhadd jispara fuq kollox zgur ma ikun hawn xejn mal kosta...
Quote from: Marenostrum on July 02, 2013, 08:46:45 CET
Quote from: bukkun1992 on June 21, 2013, 14:41:14 CET
damateur m'ghandi xejn kontrik habib....imma nies bhalek hawn hafna li dejjem jaqtaw il-qlub.....jien minix nippretenti qbid kbir onestament......just ninzel inqatta naha hin..inehhi naqa stresss u li jigi merhba bih....l-aqwa li dejjem nitghallem u naghmel hilti.
Mhux ghax jaqtaw qalb in nies imma nahseb minn jibda sport bhal dan ma iridx jittrenja fuq li jigi u jispara fuq kollox imma jirrispetta l bahar kif qalu shabna.
inkella jigri bhal kacca probabbli. illum kulhadd jista jixtri harpoon nispera li dan ma kienx zball. jekkk kulhadd jispara fuq kollox zgur ma ikun hawn xejn mal kosta...
Certu hut m ghadux iblah mal kosta mux la kemm tispara fuq kollox.... Hawn postijiet sargi tas 600 hziena kwazi daqs d dnieci saru daqs kemm jaraw sajd habib. Imbad tinzel maghhom bic cilindri al gost tan natura (bla harpoon dejjem nies!) u naqra klamar bix titmahom u jduru mieghek qishom qattus.
U jghidulek l hut ma jitghallimx lol.
What about an apache 75 for my first gun ?
nahseb biex tibda ideali apache 75, il quddiem ixtri 100 cm, u 75 tuzah al taht il gebel .
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jEW NIBQA NUZA LILU U NQASSRU U F NOFSU EZATT NAMILLU COMBA BHAL TAL-PARITI. sTATIC.......
1 Dak il habel tibdlux ghax jiffloatja, u jekk mhux b'sahhtu hafna ahjar halli jekk tigi bzonn taqtghu ma ihabbtekx.
2 Dak hemm bicca ghodda biex tkebbeb il habel mahha u tqassru u ittawwlu kemm trid int.
3 Il habel bil ballun qatt torbtu mal harpoon, dak irid jehel ma comba zghira fit tarf li int u tghum iddahhala taht ic cinturin, li kull darba tnehhiha u titlaqa fil-qiegh qabel tinzel, jew kif suppost tkunu tnejn min nies u tatiha lil siehbek sakemm tkun isfel, u huwa jkun fuqek ghassa ghal dak li jista jinqata.
4 tinsiex li ic cinturin irid ikun tal lasku u bi quick release buckle
ic cinturin mhux lakstu imma drapp tat tigulio u and bokka stailness steel folding
Zomm il-bokkla u armi ic cinturin....
Man ghandek bzonn tmur tixtri minghand xi hadd li jfemhek ftit.
Habib, nahseb li ghandek problema u mhix zghira. L-ewwel nett messek tmur taghmel kors sura ta nies qabel tibda tissogra hajtek. L-ghadds hu delizzju ghalik u ghaldaqstant tghallmu ghamlu sewwa. Minn dak li qed tikteb hawn jideher bic-car li ghadek ma taf xejn u se jiddispjacik. Qed tmur tixtri l-affarijiet minn fejn gie gie u hadd m'hu jispjegalek x'hinu sewwa u x'hinu hazin. Dan is-sajf uzah biex titghallem minghand xi hadd professjonali, wara ghodos u hu gost kemm trid. Grazzi.
Quote from: bukkun1992 on July 12, 2013, 06:49:35 CET
ic cinturin mhux lakstu imma drapp tat tigulio u and bokka stailness steel folding
Habib jin mmur kemm scuba u kemm freediving - u ghandi cinturini tad drapp ghal scuba u lakstu ghal free diving. Ghandi suits ta l scuba u suits tal free diving.
Dettalji li huma ta effet kbir. Importanti kollox quick release jinqala xi haga free diving hajja jew mewt, scuba qijed bl arja meta jinqalalek xi haga jekk ma tinfixilx ghandek hafna iktar cans tohrog minnha.
a brutally honest answer to what length harpoon you need, is what size of fish do you see when you dive? how close do you manage to get undetected? if you dont see any big fish,and you cant sneak up on them close, then you dont need a harpoon at this stage.
i would recommend for someone starting out a go pro camera first (you can shoot even the smaller fish you will first encounter with this ) , later if he is still interested and gets a gun he can attach the camera to it.