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Marine => Engines/Drives and Electronics => Fish Finders => Topic started by: joe on September 30, 2013, 21:27:50 CET

Title: FISHFINDER
Post by: joe on September 30, 2013, 21:27:50 CET
simrad ss7 bit transducer p79 tahsbu li hija azla tajba al fundal ta 500mt ada al widneja li dien set up tajep al fond ta 900 xtahsbu /?????????
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Post by: joe on October 01, 2013, 19:21:58 CET
posibli lanqas aw bnedem jista jejni fuq din set up grazzi
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Post by: busumark on October 01, 2013, 19:41:52 CET
ma nahsibx li hawn hafna li ghandhon Simrad bhala fishfinder.  jien li naf jien kwazi kollha Lowrance jew Garmin ghandhom. ahna Lowrance HDS 7 bit transducer Airmar M260 imarka fond ta 1000 m
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Post by: joe on October 01, 2013, 20:03:07 CET
mmm thx busu  li qed jinkwetani skont kief qrajt  fuq trandcuser bies
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Post by: Moonwalker on October 02, 2013, 01:06:32 CET
P79 huwa 600W biss u ghalekk ghandi dubju kemm sa tasal fond bih. Jekk int 500m trid tarhom meta tkun wieqaf nahseb li tahdem, imma waqt il mixi ma nafx kemm se jwassallek daqshekk.
Jekk trid tarma sew ghal Deep bottom fittex Sounder/Tranducer ta 1kW jew iktar.

@busu - kemm taqbdu fond waqt li mexjin bl HDS7?
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Post by: kris on October 02, 2013, 13:42:00 CET
jin andi lowrance hds5 u cruising speed ta 15 knots naqbdu sew il qih meta nkun al alungi (~500m)
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Post by: The_Gaffer on October 02, 2013, 15:11:21 CET
HI Kris, interessanti dak li ktibt hawn.  X'transducer qed tuza?, huwa transom mount, thro hull jew in-hull?  Jien qed nara l-HDS-7 Gen2 Touch, u qalluli li b'transducer nromali transom mount jinzel sa 800mtrs, tieghek hekk ukoll?
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: Granitu on October 02, 2013, 15:51:00 CET
Quote from: The_Gaffer on October 02, 2013, 15:11:21 CET
HI Kris, interessanti dak li ktibt hawn.  X'transducer qed tuza?, huwa transom mount, thro hull jew in-hull?  Jien qed nara l-HDS-7 Gen2 Touch, u qalluli li b'transducer nromali transom mount jinzel sa 800mtrs, tieghek hekk ukoll?

Gaffer mhux daqstant... jin b tieghi nara 400-500m sewwa.. u titlef certu dettal.
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: The_Gaffer on October 02, 2013, 16:02:52 CET
@Granitu - Thanks mate, good to know.  Not that familiar with Lowrance, as I am more inclined towards the Raymarine range.  However, I am in the market for a new plotter/fishfinder, and the HDS-7 looks interesting.  I need at least seabed coverage in the 600, max 800mtr range.
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Post by: bigboy on October 02, 2013, 16:46:38 CET
My next will be the Simrad NSS7

Seen it @ Caruana Marine Centre and for its price tag it seems superb
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Post by: Shaftbomb on October 02, 2013, 17:50:37 CET
What about the Sitex/Koden? 
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Post by: joe on October 02, 2013, 20:35:34 CET
ilum mort ant aggent u saqsejtu P79 huwa 600W nasal sa 500m atlu ax qed naqra fuqu skont kief qrajt ma jasalx it twegiba ija li jasal sewa mija fil mija
manistax nifem lil mien taqbad temen
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: busumark on October 02, 2013, 20:55:20 CET
@ Moonwalker kif naqbzu 18 kts jaqta imma ahna l inboard qedin u jaf taghmel differenza.  tkun ghaddej 5 kts jaqbad 1000 m imma kultant jaqta u tkun trid terga tisetjah biex jaqbad dak l fond.

@ Gaffer jien l HDS 5 bit transom mount transducer ghandi fuq tijaj u wasalt sa 750 meters wasalt.

Fiz zewg kazi mintiex ha tara carezza ax l gain irid ikun l izjed qawwi u anke surface clarity u noise trid tnehhi imma n numru kemm hemm fond itijulek
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: Moonwalker on October 03, 2013, 02:20:35 CET
@joe - li jwassal 500m iva imma trid tara kemm speed jibqa jaqra u jekk ikun naqra caqliq jekk jaqtax.
Insomma minn kif qal Kris bl HDS5 qied tajjeb hafna jigifieri suppost Simrad tajjeb daqsu jew ahjar.
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Post by: joe on October 03, 2013, 07:22:11 CET
Moonwalker kemm awn afarijiet li ma tkunx tafom ux jina maniefimx atlu alxiex nixtieq nuzah orini vidio  qed isuqu  fondal ta aktar mien 550 ima igibuk fdubju ax wara li tixtri paroli jkollok


Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: Granitu on October 03, 2013, 09:27:53 CET
Quote from: The_Gaffer on October 02, 2013, 16:02:52 CET
@Granitu - Thanks mate, good to know.  Not that familiar with Lowrance, as I am more inclined towards the Raymarine range.  However, I am in the market for a new plotter/fishfinder, and the HDS-7 looks interesting.  I need at least seabed coverage in the 600, max 800mtr range.

Lowrance in my opinion are the best fishfinders in the 15-200m range. The level of detail they offer and reading in this range is exceptional.

I can tell you this for one reason. Get me a fishfinder that is able to find a small shoal of squid at 65m and you win me. Get me a fishfinder that a .15mm line id able to trace it at 95m and you win me.

Sometimes one of the problems is that it detects everything... and that funnily enough is a problem. Once you learn how to set it up well (it is a complicated FF) you will have a very powerful tool in your hands. fyi i use a 600w 50/200 transducer.

Simrad are very good ff too from what I was told (by a professional  gozitan fisherman with long lines). but never tested them out.
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: kris on October 03, 2013, 09:31:20 CET
Quote from: The_Gaffer on October 02, 2013, 15:11:21 CET
HI Kris, interessanti dak li ktibt hawn.  X'transducer qed tuza?, huwa transom mount, thro hull jew in-hull?  Jien qed nara l-HDS-7 Gen2 Touch, u qalluli li b'transducer nromali transom mount jinzel sa 800mtrs, tieghek hekk ukoll?


Hi Joe I have a Lowrance HDS-5 GPS + Fishfinder (50/200KHZ Tdx) Combo. The transducer is transom mounted and I can take it off after a days fishing and store it safely away. Mine in theory, should reach to 800m...but till now I have tested it till ~600m.
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Post by: Moonwalker on October 03, 2013, 09:48:43 CET
@joe -Imma il video li urik migbud hawn Malta jew promo tas Simrad?
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Post by: Moonwalker on October 03, 2013, 09:52:11 CET
@Granitu - Does it really detect the 0.15 line or some lure/lead?
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Post by: Granitu on October 03, 2013, 09:56:42 CET
line - u see the trace from up to bottom and keeps showing until left fishing. Imp is the setting, sea condition, sea current and sea temperature (and this is an important factor!)
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Post by: Moonwalker on October 03, 2013, 10:32:03 CET
Still sceptic - if it really detects the line it would show it across all the screen all the time - if you are getting a slanting line from top to bottom that would be the lure/lead while it is going down.
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: Granitu on October 03, 2013, 11:24:08 CET
Quote from: Moonwalker on October 03, 2013, 10:32:03 CET
Still sceptic - if it really detects the line it would show it across all the screen all the time - if you are getting a slanting line from top to bottom that would be the lure/lead while it is going down.

But it would stop at sometime after 20 mins transmitting it - not remain there ;) else the FFinder is not working. There is movement during the time and the line is still there.

Bdw the .15 is a braid and not mono imp to say.
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: Moonwalker on October 03, 2013, 11:58:42 CET
Well if you have a screen shot we can argue better :) I still say that it cannot be the line/braid.
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Post by: Granitu on October 03, 2013, 11:59:44 CET
Quote from: Moonwalker on October 03, 2013, 11:58:42 CET
Well if you have a screen shot we can argue better :) I still say that it cannot be the line/braid.

I will take you a screen shot next time.... but not the coordinates :)
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: joe on October 03, 2013, 21:31:35 CET
Moonwalker il video
 migbud min fuq jott kenu qed isuqu
nizlin mien sqalija
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: Moonwalker on October 04, 2013, 09:42:12 CET
@joe - Jott jigifieri sailing boat? Li nista najdlek hu li dak jimxi hafni iktar stabli minn dghajsa normali specjalment f naqra caqliq. Mhux qed najd li is Simrad mhux tajjeb - li id dubju tieghi hu fuq it transducer li mhux bsahtu bizzejjed.

Jien kelli il Furuno bil 1kW fuq id dghajsa l ohra u darba qbadt il qiegh ta 800m waqt li kont qed insuq 20knt. Izda meta ergajt pruvajt sibta difficli hafna biex nerga naqbad dak il fond waqt li mixi. Bejn naqra caqliqa u bejn  il kurrent tal bahar tghamel differenza kbira. Meta issuq bil mod (xi 5knt) ovjament kont naqbad dak il fond. Izda ftakar li is sikek mhuxmiex immarkati perfetti specjalment il barra (inqas fuq fishing charts) , u allura trid tfittex naqra sew sakem issib ix xifer li trid.
Issa nista insuq kemm irrid u nibqa naqbad il qiegh sew mingharj problemi.

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Post by: joe on October 04, 2013, 20:11:55 CET
nerga mur nara naqra sewa ax veru gejt dari mal hajt
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Post by: joe on October 04, 2013, 20:17:26 CET
http://www.furunousa.com/LearningCenter/Transducer-Beam-Angle-Calculator.aspx
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Post by: Moonwalker on October 04, 2013, 22:11:05 CET
Jekk l agent qed jiggarantilek li se tkun tajjeb allura ma nahsibx li andek alfejn tithawwad.
Jien adtlek l esperjenza tieghi fuq Furuno. Fuq Simrad qatt ma kelli esperjenza u milli qrajt ifahhruhom hafna.

Fuq dik il beam angle ma tamilx differenza kbira. Jien bil 1kW ma kontx narah il hut fi 300m u inqas issa bit 3kW ma narah - bazug qed najd ghax hut kbir iehor narah sew.
Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: joe on October 05, 2013, 07:35:54 CET
thx Moonwalker ijwa agent tani garanzija   u sisa qad masmajt xejn fuqu ima tibda taqra u jina manifimx u titfixkel naqra qisek wara li tixtri tonfoq il fluss ikun 2 late

Title: Re: FISHFINDER
Post by: joe on October 08, 2013, 19:39:38 CET
http://www.caruanamarine.com/
awwn tratti tasimrad