bottom fishing is usually done during the day has anyone tried to fish at night for fish other then bream
and what bait is best for night fishing
this weekend we will be lure fishing for Barracuda in the early saturday hours 5.00am - 7.00am and then off for in port fishing in Birzebbuga for bream.....win it we're gonna win it!!!!!!!!!!!
:o ::) ;D ??? :-* :'(
no luck with barracudas early morning hours, but inport fishing for pagell turned out quite thrilling
We landed near 10kgs of nice sized breams (range 300gms each)
hey guys going night fishing today :) can anyone suggest any good places ? I live in Pieta and my friends live in sliema and marsa , so any place close to any of those areas would be great . last week we went night fishing in sliema in front of burger king . only caught 1 sparlu and 1 xirghien though :(
hi sergio
when you go night fishing you are targeting some very particular fish
one of my favorite places in that area is ta xbiex between black pearl and the bocci club
the set up i recommend is one beach caster with a pater noster rig and a carbon ledgering rod with very fine line (14-18 ) line riged up with a running lead hook size 1-4 worm hooks preferebly red and rear barbed
as bait i use king rag worm (hanex tal imperjal) gandofli with a cracked shell razor fish small squid whole and crabs
the fish you will be targeting are large bottom dwellers like sargi and awrat (i caught a 5kg wild awrata from there at 3 am after a storm on a gandofla 10mts from the shore)
when rigging shellfish you crack one side open and insert the hook then tie the shells together using nylon or fishing elastic
at this time of year you will find sawrell ta limperjal roaming ports and bays the best baits are fresh tunnagg or any oyher bloody fish. these fish come in in the evening around 6pm and come back in the morning around 5 am
good luck and good fishing
thanks a lot simon. i actually live in pieta so going near black pearl is only about 20 mins walk ! i will surely give it a go as fishing in sliema last night was NOT successful hehe , we spent more money on buying king ragworm which was lm 6 ! . i hope my 3m shakespeare spinning rod is adequate though coz i dont have the money to buy a carbon ledgering rod !! hehe
Night fishing in Summer is really nice. When I was a student I used to roam in all corners of the ports looking for a descent spot. I can say that I tired them all since I fished 3-4 times a week for six months. If you are patient you will surely land a nice fish.
The best expiriences me and a firend had was fishing for sawrell (atlantic horse mackarel) with live bait during the night. When you see the small lacci (Allis shad) grouping together under a lit spot it means you found a right spot. You have to net some bait and keep it alive in a small bucket. A fixed weghted waggler (8-12) + (2-4), and a long fine .12 mm branch of 2 metres will do. The waggler has to take a 4mm starlight. We sometimes caught record sawrell (atlantic horse mackarel) of 500 grms.
cool thanks simon . so i have to net the lacci in order to fish ? or can i use other bait , for example king ragworm ? i heard that near black pearl they were catching quite a number of sawrell
sorry that supposed to be adressed to The Angler not simon g
When the fish are feeding on the shads it will not be easy to catch them on some other bait. Apart from feeding the fish have fun chasing smaller fish and usually there is abundancy. You can always try the king ragworm but I doubt you will catch them while chasing the shads.
hey angler , what do u mean when u say (8-12) + (2-4) ( ive never used weighted waggler before ) i just bought one 8g but what's the (2-4) mean ?
night fishing.....i used to fish the sampei way.
lol....some time ago in BBUGIA me and a friend used to get water bottles (empty) tie some 10mts of line and attach with a size 4 hook. Hook a small living vopa and off you go. We used to spread out from 5 to 10.
we caught nice sawrell, spnott and even barracuda. All during the night from the freeport area, under light from the tower cranes.
Weighted wagglers do not always take the full weight in the float. Some wagglers divide the weight. Part of the weight goes in the float but then you can still add some weight on the line. This is useful when you need to reach certain depths. If you cannot add some split shots on the line it means that the bait will go down very slowly and if you have strong currents it will never reach the desired depth. So say (8+2) means that the waggler itself weighs 8 grams but then you can add another 2 grams on the line to make the bait go down faster. This is also useful while throwing because the float and the line do not get tangled since you have some weight on the line.
oh i see. mela issa i go buy another one , coz the one i bought is just 8g . however i think it might be useful for some surface dwelling fish eh
Definetely, that is very useful when fishing in very difficult shallow waters not deeper that 4 metres. I usually use the waggler in a fixed position. The best is a very fine 5m rod which can take a max of 10-15 grams. I use a branch of 4.5 metres and then just hook the bait. After you cast you reel in very very slowly. The bait would move on the seabed and there you have 100% sensitivity. This system is also very good for mullet but you would need a catapult to feed and fresh slice bread to use as bait.
ok new question ( sorry but im not a very expirienced angler ) i bought another waggler and on it is written 6 - 5 + 1 . does this mean that i have to add a 5g weight as well as a 1g weight ? ( there's no + in front of the 5 so i dont know why there is a - )
Sergio, you need to add 1gm. I would take it more slowly but.
First try adding 0.5gm then in 0.2 one by one splitshots. Ideally you should have 3 different splitshots.
You should end up with only the top part (yellow/ orange) tip just visible outside water.
going night fishing this week trying out a new location i hope i get something
the bottom is mainly sand with a few scattered rocks i saw a lot of nice sargi (500g+)
i was going to use bi valves and king rag as bait any other suggestions as what bait to use
hi Simon G
how do you hook a bi-valve? And with what sort of mollusc do you fish ? I never tried using this type of bait and I read on many sources that its quite an effective bait. Cannot understand how to hook it though.....
thanks.....
Quote from: Simon G on June 11, 2006, 18:51:41 CET
hi sergio
when you go night fishing you are targeting some very particular fish
one of my favorite places in that area is ta xbiex between black pearl and the bocci club
the set up i recommend is one beach caster with a pater noster rig and a carbon ledgering rod with very fine line (14-18 ) line riged up with a running lead hook size 1-4 worm hooks preferebly red and rear barbed
as bait i use king rag worm (hanex tal imperjal) gandofli with a cracked shell razor fish small squid whole and crabs
the fish you will be targeting are large bottom dwellers like sargi and awrat (i caught a 5kg wild awrata from there at 3 am after a storm on a gandofla 10mts from the shore)
when rigging shellfish you crack one side open and insert the hook then tie the shells together using nylon or fishing elastic
at this time of year you will find sawrell ta limperjal roaming ports and bays the best baits are fresh tunnagg or any oyher bloody fish. these fish come in in the evening around 6pm and come back in the morning around 5 am
good luck and good fishing
so simon, when ur saying that u caught this huge awrata, where u fishing with a running ledger rig? and if yes, what type of line did you use (fluoro? , diam?) and what size and type of hooks!
i am new to fishing with a reel rod, and i am willing to buy the necessary equipment.... what line should i buy for my rigs? if its possible can u mention brands!?
tnx in advance,
reg,
Jonathan
hey dude ,
i have learned quite a bit about night fishing by now :p so i might be able to give some advice. usually at night i fish with a running ledger rig. i use a light shimano reel + rod . i have 2 spools . one is spooled with .14mm mono and the other .18mm. for the running ledger rig i use .14mm Smart Fluorocarbon (from angler centre) and as a hook i use Owner Ryusen-B size 6 or Owner Iseama size 4. bait - king ragworm. try to buy a light feeder rod casting weight up to 50g, preferably with 3 tips. the lightest tip ( usually able to cast 20g) will be able to feel the lightest of bites . good luck !
hey man,
tnx for yr reply,
but the 0.14mm fluoro carbon line would have a low load test! i mean i have a fluorocarbon reel with somethink like 0.23 mm and the load test is only 2kg!! by any chance did u mean fluoro coated line?? because that would be a different story as far as i know!
last time i went fishing was around 2 weekends ago! however again i had no success!! i used the running ledger rig with this 0.23mm fluorocarbon line and the owner hooks (6 and 8 - red) as bait i used hniex tal korea and xkal. it was in the morning (early morning - rnd 4.30am) and it was really windy. first we went to the south but it was too windy and left to ta xbiex (just beneat the black pearl!) i got fed up because i don't know the place and i was all the time getting stuck!! can anyone suggest any places i can go? i am from the sliema area...
i really cannot get the good start in this type of fishing grrr...
regards,
jonathan
Last time I went night fishing all I caught was a morina :(
If you live in the sliema area Balluta bay (behind piccolo padre/barracuda rest) is good place to fish.i have had good success at night using a standard running ledger rig off the moll in the bay (near the kamra tas-sajjieda delittanti) with a small swimfeeder instead of the weight.Put some bread/cefalo mix inside (some swimfeeders usually have a small strip of lead on it,if not put a small 10g weight in with the bread mix) & a cube of cheddar cheese as hook bait on a size 8 hook use real cheddar not that pre-packed vegetarian cheddar stuff,and use 0.16mm flurocarbon for the hook length.You can get some very nice breams and you definetly wont hook any un-wanted morini,as your more likely to with the hniex.Also at dawn (& dusk sometimes) this time of year barracudas will be around snapping at bait fish & you can try your luck with a spinner.
Also round the moll you can sometimes see 6 or 8 BIG griebel,but they are frequently there and practically impossible to catch! as we say they can read & write!!!
Also just a bit further round from the moll (a bit further round from the small sandy bit) there is a small jetty with a ladder near it if you fish there (or near there) the day AFTER a strong grigal wind (when the sea will still be murky and not as clear as usual) from dawn onwards,preferably with a 7 or 8m hand rod with 'Farka' or even some 'sellieh' as bait you can catch big xilep & mullet,its very important to put a few balls/handfulls of groundbait in a few times first,some bread mixed with cefalo or 'gobon tas-sajd' to get them feeding.
For the xilep use a strong main line of around 0.35mm and tie on a clip swivel leaving about 35/45cm from the end for the hook length,its about 2m deep approx fish about 20cm above the bottom.Use 0.20/0,18mm for the remaining hook length,a size 12 or 16 hook (depending on the size of xilep there!) & a small standard float (apply lead shot accordingly),practically for the xilep you wont need it cos when they bite they instantly sink the float bending your rod double almost! No harder fighter on light tackle! last time i went there was about a year ago (in january) with some guys from work we caught about 15/20 each all in the 600g-1 kilo and over range not counting the bigger ones that snapped off! get some spare hook lengths ready.
Good luck & tight lines.
Regards,
Martinb