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2014 Bluefin Tuna Licence / Applikazzjonijiet għas-sajd rikreazzjonali tat-tonn

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Granitu

Quote from: Pauline Tuna on May 09, 2014, 07:34:35 CET
'''''Huta wahda thalli hafna bajd fil bahar. L bahar jirpilja iktar malajr milli nahsbu ghax meta ma jsibx kacca sfrenata, s success rate ta hut li jikber toghla.

Llum l bahar mbarazz hdejk ta darek... Pero ghadna fic cans li xi haga ssir''''''

Fuq dil il quote ta ghawn fuq.....xjista ikolna ligijiet aktar milli ghanna bhal issa - ez - il bahar mimli Tonn u ahna diletanti marbutin bi grammi ta quota fuq kull ras (nirringrazzjaw li ghanna dan)......xjista issir aktar milli ghanna......

Halli T tonn barra - ghax qed isir hafna u zzejjed fuq l konservazzjoni tat tonn minn naha tad dilettant biex igawdu tal fish farms - Rigward tonn iridu jaraw s sajjieda professjonali u tal fish farms x inhuma jaghmlu - specjalment ta l ahhar.

Pero hares lejn hut ohra tal qih, u wisq nibza li dan minsi. Jin sajjied dilettant bhalek Pauline Tuna, imma stadt f ibhra barranini u gew fis sitwazzjoni taghna, ghamlu xi haga, u llum ghandom industrija shiha marbuta ma sajd turizmu. Qed jghaddu ligijiet biex jagevolaw d dilettant u sport fishing u jaqtaw s sajd professjonali. Ssemilomx fish farming, ghax l bahar b sahhtu bizzejjed bix jitma n nies u mhux commercially viable.

Nemmen li malta emm trid tasal ukoll, l bahar hu l ikbar rizorz li ghanda Malta.
Good season so far.....

Pauline Tuna

Kif etlek diga, Tal Fish Farms huma kontrollati seww fdawn lahhar 4 snin....ma tantx jghamlu li jridu....apparti li qed ihadmu balla nies Maltin (u barranin), kif ukoll ihallu qliegh enormi fl-ekonomija Maltija.....Il hut li jinqabad bis sahha ta l-industrija mhux qed jghamel hsara (ghax kontrollat) (sa certu punt), anzi qed iressaq hut iehor lejn il kosta tghana, fejn kif taf inti qed ingawdu minnu ahna id diletant. Kemm hut tal wicc u kemm hut tal qiegh, bhal Tonn, Kubrit, Plamti, Pexxi san Pietro, Dnieci, Klamari etc etc...

Li qed nara jien huwa ir restrizzjonijiet fuqna id diletanti.....ta min noqghodu attenti xi nghidu ax il ligi dejjem fuq iz zghir taqha.....

Granitu

Quote from: Pauline Tuna on May 09, 2014, 08:01:21 CET
Kif etlek diga, Tal Fish Farms huma kontrollati seww fdawn lahhar 4 snin....ma tantx jghamlu li jridu....apparti li qed ihadmu balla nies Maltin (u barranin), kif ukoll ihallu qliegh enormi fl-ekonomija Maltija.....Il hut li jinqabad bis sahha ta l-industrija mhux qed jghamel hsara (ghax kontrollat) (sa certu punt), anzi qed iressaq hut iehor lejn il kosta tghana, fejn kif taf inti qed ingawdu minnu ahna id diletant. Kemm hut tal wicc u kemm hut tal qiegh, bhal Tonn, Kubrit, Plamti, Pexxi san Pietro, Dnieci, Klamari etc etc...

Li qed nara jien huwa ir restrizzjonijiet fuqna id diletanti.....ta min noqghodu attenti xi nghidu ax il ligi dejjem fuq iz zghir taqha.....

Bir rispett kollhu, l farms veru li resqu t tonn vicin l art, imma l qih inqred.
Good season so far.....

bigboy

Sajd bla razan jeqred hbieb !! Kemm dak kummercjali kif ukoll dilettanti. Ftit tal granet ilu kont ed nitkellem ma dilettant u ma sajjied profesjonali fuq is sajda tal bazuk. Ghalkemm dal ahhar dejjem ed thalli frott din is sajda ghal min jmur bil qasba izda tridu tifmu il punt li dak tal qasba, jekk sab bejta u baqa fuqa ha jibqa jaqbad diment li l kurrenti jiffavorixxuh. Dak is sajjied tal mistier li ma jkala konz ghal bazuk jekk forsi laqat bicca bahar xorta mhux ha jaqbad kwantita ax il konz baqa sejjer jifrex law u l hemm.

Il punt hu.... u tifmunix hazin ax mandi xej kontra dawk li jmorru bil qasab tal eletriku..... anzi nixtieq li ghandi qoxra biex immur alih izda tijej ma tippermettix li mmur f dak it tul..... imma id dilettant jrid joqod attent ukoll ax haw min ed jmur u jgib qabdiet kbar kull harga li jaghmel. Nibzaw ghal bahar taghna hbieb tieghi forsi jibza ghalina hu ;)

Ghax wisq nibza li ghada pit ghada it tfal taghna mhux se jkolna ghalxiex nihduwom jihdu pjecir u nderruwom in namra tal bahar.


The_Gaffer

Bigboy, naqbel perfettament ma dak li qed tghid.  Jien naqla kritika qawwija fil bord tas-sajd minhabba l-ammont kbir ta bazuk u hut iehor tal-fond li jinqabad mid-dilettanti.  Li jinqabdu tuzzana biex taqlijhom ghal familja mod, imma li jinqabdu kilos kbar f'qabda wahda biex umbghadd jinbieghu mod iehor.  Is-sajjieda professjonali li tweggahhom mhux li ahna nistadu, imma li ahna nistadu bla kontroll, u l-hut li naqbdu jispicca fis-suq ukoll.  Hemm il-fattur ukoll ta' responsabilta u konservazzjoni.  Jien il-bahar ma nafux kif inhu illum.  Din il-gimgha mort nistad ghal qieh mat-tifel (father and son fishing outing).  Kont ili ma nistad hekk xi 20 sena.  Bdjna naqbdu gharrajjes u serran daqs naqra, kollha nerga nehlishom ghal bahar.  Jien kont nohrog nistad ma missieri, naqbdu gharajjes tal-kuruna kienu tal-kwart, u b'nofs tuzzana serran taghmel ikla aljotta tkemmex ix-xuftejn.  Li hbieb tieghi, il-bahar m'ghadux li kien.  Ejja mela nibzu ghal ftit li baqa.
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bigboy

Hekk hu Gaffer !!

Sfortunatament ahna nippuntaw lej il kbar kultant imma hemm minna li ed nesageraw ukoll. !!

busumark

Bigboy l ikbar sajdiet tal bazuk  isiru minn sajjieda profesjonali bil konzijit, jekk tmur l pixkerija u ikunu hemm lanqas jieqfu idahlu kaxxi.

Gaffer anke minn ghandu MFA u MFB huwa armat bl eletric reels igiefiri ma ifissirx li l bazuk kollha li ikun hemm inqabdu mid delettanti

bigboy

Le le naf xqed nghid !!!! il hut tad dilettanti rajtu jien b dghajjes s u mfc ;)

bigboy

U jien nerga ntennilek li n nies li ed insemmi jmorru bil qasab ;)

Skuzani imma ma twelidx il bierah jien :)


The_Gaffer

Hbieb, niftakru li dan huwa forum miftuh.  Pero huwa minnu li dilettanti qabdu kwantitajiet kbar ta Bazuk.  Jekk jinbiehx jew le mhux ser nikkumenta hawn.  Pero gibna hafna minn dan b'idejna.  Jien, meta tridu, niltaqaw wahda bhal ta l-antik, halli ma noqodx nitkellem hawn. Immorru f'dak il-bar tar-Rabat, u nghidilkom ezatt x'jghidu is-sajjieda professjonali u rapprezentanti tahhom.  Hafna milli jghidu hu minnu.  Jien u Dr. joe ninhanqu fil-bord.  Hemm bzonn inharsu l-quddiem, ghax id-delizzju taghna irridu nibqaw ingawduh.
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The_Gaffer

Quote from: FREEDIVE on May 09, 2014, 18:04:33 CET
Ma tridx toqod fuq kull ma jghidu certu "sajjieda professjonali" u hafna inqas dawk li suppost qed jirraprezentaw is-sajjieda. Allajbierek ta`spiss kienet tinqala l` kwistjoni fuq id-dilettanti waqt xi laghqa. La jibdew jafdawk u jifthu qalbhom mieghek jibdew izelqu naqra liema huma il-veru problemi li qed jiffaccja is-sajjied. 
Nabel ukoll.  Pero, la jafdawni, mhux gej fuq forum publiku nghid dak li gejt avdat bih.  Hemm hafna xoghol xi jrid issir. 
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lazyfisherman

Illum d-dilettant hafna drabi armat tajjeb hafna - Jaf jonfoq balla liri(insomms ewros)  - ingenji jaghmlu 35 knot, fishfinders li jaqraw fondijiet kbar, electric reels etc. Fl-opinjoni tieghi, aktar ma tkun armat aktar trid tkun responsabbli ghax aktar jikber il potenzjal li taqbad hafna. Ftit individwi dilettanti mhux responsabbli u ftit sajdiet ezagerati min dilettanti jistghu jispiccaw jaghmlu hafna hsara lid-dilettanti kollha.

Fl-ahhar mill ahhar id-dilettant, anke jekk armat sewwa, irid jiftakar li l-ghan ewlieni jibqa dak  hu li jiehu siegha pjacir u mhux li jidhol mghobbi bil-hut bl-iskuza li irid jifdi l-ispejjez.

The_Gaffer

Quote from: lazyfisherman on May 09, 2014, 21:19:47 CET
Illum d-dilettant hafna drabi armat tajjeb hafna - Jaf jonfoq balla liri(insomms ewros)  - ingenji jaghmlu 35 knot, fishfinders li jaqraw fondijiet kbar, electric reels etc. Fl-opinjoni tieghi, aktar ma tkun armat aktar trid tkun responsabbli ghax aktar jikber il potenzjal li taqbad hafna. Ftit individwi dilettanti mhux responsabbli u ftit sajdiet ezagerati min dilettanti jistghu jispiccaw jaghmlu hafna hsara lid-dilettanti kollha.

Fl-ahhar mill ahhar id-dilettant, anke jekk armat sewwa, irid jiftakar li l-ghan ewlieni jibqa dak  hu li jiehu siegha pjacir u mhux li jidhol mghobbi bil-hut bl-iskuza li irid jifdi l-ispejjez.
Prosit ta dan.  Din biss skuza tal-ispejjez.  Mintiex obligat tohrog il-barra u tarma bil-goff biex taqbad huta. 
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Granitu

Quote from: The_Gaffer on May 10, 2014, 06:03:44 CET
Quote from: lazyfisherman on May 09, 2014, 21:19:47 CET
Illum d-dilettant hafna drabi armat tajjeb hafna - Jaf jonfoq balla liri(insomms ewros)  - ingenji jaghmlu 35 knot, fishfinders li jaqraw fondijiet kbar, electric reels etc. Fl-opinjoni tieghi, aktar ma tkun armat aktar trid tkun responsabbli ghax aktar jikber il potenzjal li taqbad hafna. Ftit individwi dilettanti mhux responsabbli u ftit sajdiet ezagerati min dilettanti jistghu jispiccaw jaghmlu hafna hsara lid-dilettanti kollha.

Fl-ahhar mill ahhar id-dilettant, anke jekk armat sewwa, irid jiftakar li l-ghan ewlieni jibqa dak  hu li jiehu siegha pjacir u mhux li jidhol mghobbi bil-hut bl-iskuza li irid jifdi l-ispejjez.
Prosit ta dan.  Din biss skuza tal-ispejjez.  Mintiex obligat tohrog il-barra u tarma bil-goff biex taqbad huta. 

100% right. Nikkonferma li qed tghid gaffer
Good season so far.....

shanook

Heqq u minn qal li dawk I'd dajjes mfc, S Jew mod iehor ma jkunx ta wiehed li ghandu MFA JEW MFB mhux bhal dawk il kajjikki li jkalaw il parit, Jew knuz.
Imma Ahna qedin nitkellmu x jaghmel hsara lil bahar Jew fuq xi haga ohra.
Ghalija u nispera ma nhallix xi systema barra huma
Tkarkir
Lampara
Parit

Lohrajn bhal konz, electric Jew hydraulic reels winch, ma tantx jeffetwaw ghax normali jintuza go fond fejn mhux normali jinstad mill profesjonali. Kull minn jistad jaf li tista taghmel nofs ta nhar u ma taqbad xejn imbad taghmel sieha tieghu pjacir (mhux dejjem tigi dik is siegha).
Jekk irridu nfettqu, kull tip ta sajd ha jaghmel hsara, imma ma irridux nesegeraw.
L Amerika Vera ghandhom il kwoti imma ghas sajd fil lakes u xmajjar. Imma Hej jekk jinqabdu 100 huta, lawtorita terga titfa 200 ohra zaghar halli min imur jistad dejjem isib hut fix xmara. Il bahar mod iehor. Il bahar trid Tara xjaghmillu hsara u tillimita dak, bhal ma gara bit tonn.