spearguns :)

Started by big one, November 30, 2008, 09:57:20 CET

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EmicMalta

personally i like them if they sink. I can stabilise the gun quicker. The inportant think is that it s balanced

King

#31
Behsibni nixtri harpoon iehor. Xtahsbu nies nixtrih t l-gharja jew tal lakstu ?
I am thinking of getting a new spear gun what would you sudgest banbs or air?

fabrizioviper

Without any doubt sling power guns are the best . less mantainance needed , no oil change no nothing . just change the slings once a year or how often do you go , and off you go.
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noztheviking

Hi HELP!!!!! Can some one tell me do you require a Police licence for your spearguns and harpoons. Here in england we dont require any form of licence. (AT THE MOMENT) IN FACT we can buy them off E-bay and at any good dive shop Ihave noticed that most  of the divers in MALTA tend to use rubber powered guns rather than the pneumatic/ air powered jobs, is there any reason for this or is it just choice. thanks noztheviking

charlie

Yes my friend a license is needed,the rubber ones are more used cause they don't need service such changing washers etc... etc... and the rubber ones are more silent than the air ones

gordon_grech

I have in mind of buying the 75 Mares Phantom Carbon ... what do you suggest. Thanks in advance

SeaMarc

Hello everyone,
There is a new gun coming out in France soon.
It seems to be the first real innovation since the invention of the speargun.

You can see the prototype on:
http://www.seamaxx.fr/html/index.html

It allows you to arm more easily, fire at a greater distance, with more precision and maximum comfort and security and as well you can modulate your firing power.

I would like you have your opinions.

fisheye

#37
IMO the more moving parts you have will result in more noise more maintenance more things to go wrong and to me looks a bit too bulky especially the front part might cause drag and vibration from the rubbers when turning the spear gun sideways. Obviously there are positive things, like it can be  armed with much less effort and can be regulated to shoot at different strength. Some thing else I did not like is about loading to full strength. According to the literature on that site it takes up to 8 pumps to be fully loaded well if you need to take  the second shot while on the bottom you will want to do it with the less movements possible.
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charlie

I think its too much complicated as fisheye said too much mechanisims = too much faults.Also I don't like the position of the reel and the rubber will cause vibration

fabrizioviper

I  agree with charlie , looks complicated , infact it looks like WILLIAM TELL S cross bow LOL. Dont like it.
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EmicMalta

its with same principal as roller guns. Who use them says that they have very good shoots. Have a friend from Genova that use to  build them and even built system tavorich for air-spearguns. They have their on class and cannot compare with our traditional ones. As I know Beuchat had started those roller guns, and heard that there was a project right now lunched in a fair.

Some times even having very simple things one can have problems, can t imagine this situation trying to load the gun especially in Ajs season.





I think that these guns are good in murky water where there is need lots of penetration with short range. With a 125cm we shoot to the limit on groupers, ajs and dentex

SeaMarc

Hi everyone,
Sorry but I have been away for a few days.
I have looked into this very carefull and studied the protoype at the Paris show in January, before telling you about it.
The roller gun is patented by a guy named Berry. Seamaxx is also patented with functions that are far superior. To load the roller gun you do one side first then turn it over and then load the other side. The uTube film shows someone loading whilst standing on a floor. The second film in the water does not show loading. Ha! Doing several easy pump strokes on Seamaxx makes far less movement than loading the Roller gun. Seamaxx is the only gun where the band accompanies and propels the spear right to the end. That is why it's power is double a normal gun. You can load Seamaxx totally or only partially, and once it is fully loaded (this is unique), you can reduce the load with a simple movement of the index finger - if you look closely at the animation on the site you will see there are two triggers: the foremost one is for reducing the loading. The reel can be positioned on the right or the left according to your desire. We agree that the head of the prototype shown on the site is too bulky: that is why we are redesigning it - the new one will be uncomparable. The action of the band on both sides negates vibration and makes Seamaxx more precise than any other gun.
Hope I have answered all your questions.

SPNOTTA

A non-commercial , non-biased performance comparative study would be great. Speed, penetration, accuracy, resistance to tracking motion, buoyancy, recoil etc....

I like keeping it simple and the respective roller gun has to really outperform the conventional guns to make it of interest to me.

SeaMarc

Hello SPNOTTA,
A new prototype is being pr?pared. Apparently a qualitative official text will be carried out by the french magazine "Apn?a".

SPNOTTA

goodie...that's great... would have preferred a quantitative study and grey data... but anyways... that would be a really intersting read.
SeaMarc would you please be so kind to provide a link, short review or extract when the article is published?
Spearfishing magazines are not that common here.