Jigging for dentex / denci

[MartinB]

That's what we're here to do on the forum, discuss everything openly and get different opinions and viewpoints, whether it's on equipment and technique or indeed preserving our fish stocks.....

I have to be honest with myself and everyone, it was such a rush hooking up those fish and the first time every jigging that it didn't cross my mind that a 1kgs small AJ is still on the smallish size, though I happily released the ones that came up that were smaller.

Imho i would keep a 4kg dentex as i feel its a good size as granitu mentioned
As for 27 1kg cervjol..im on the fence...very true they have the potential to grow into much larger fish but sometimes when your into a bonanza like that its easy to get carried away..in fact if put my hand on my heart,i think i probably would get carried away too!
Quality does beat quantity in theory (and usually in practice) but occasionally quantity can be a real buzz and it can be easy to lose the plot in those very rare circumstances!
I mean put it this way, would you throw 27 1 to 1.5kg sized lampuki back?  im guessing the majority (me included) wouldn't! whats the difference? both are migratory & both also have a potential to grow very big too...no offence to anyone intended,but its easy to talk and much harder to implement! i guess all you can do release the very small,sub 1kg ones,which i personally do as a matter of course anyhow.
Also when jigging (especially with a shoal of AJ's) your going to get alot of foul hooked fish which would be pointless releasing anyway.

[ramio]

I once was told by a very experienced fisherman that cerviol and acciol (AJ) are not the same fish. He pointed out the fish teeth as an example. This somehow stands, as the cerviol isn't an all year round fish, while the AJ is.
Any clarification by the experts!

[fisheye]

I got your point skip and shanook, last time I was involved in alungi fishing was way back in the 2001 season. Back than I was involved a lot in sport fishing. The alungi we used to catch were mostly bigger than 12kg with some going up to 18kg but seems that since than things have changed. Thanks for your replies.     

[Granitu]

no cervjol is the juvenile version of an amberjack, their body changes a lot throughout their life. the problem is what you reckon as cervjol, as when juvenile fish can be similar-especially sawrell

have you ever caught a middle sized one like 4-6kgs version, you would change your opinion

[skip]

Think is these didn't have yellowish/golden colours on them, so I would be inclined to say small AJs

[LapsiBoy]

Those you caught skip are cervjol and not accol. They are different species.

[rob1974]

I Beg to differ.  Cervjol are juvenile accjol.  The operators of the cages below San Lucjan had bought some live cervjol off fishermen, mostly caught as a by-catch with lampuki.  These were kept alive and farmed for experimental purposes on the reproduction of the species (seriola dumerili).  They are the same species.

Rob

[Granitu]

Greater amberjacks, Seriola dumerili, are the largest of the jacks. They usually have dark stripes extending from nose to in front of their dorsal fins. They have no scutes and soft dorsal bases less than twice the length of the anal fin bases. They are usually 18 kg (40 pounds) or less, and are found associated with rocky reefs, debris, and wrecks, typically in 20 to 75 m (10 to 40 fathoms).

Lesser amberjacks, Seriola fasciata, have a proportionately larger eye and deeper body than the greater amberjack. They are olive green or brownish-black with silver sides and usually have a dark band extending upward from their eyes. Juveniles have split or wavy bars on their sides. The adults are usually under 5 kg (10 lbs). They are found deeper than other jacks, commonly 50 to 130 m (30 to 70 fathoms).


courtesy of wikipedia

[LapsiBoy]

rob i have caught 1kg cervjol and 1kg acciol and they arent the same. maybe they are same species but they are different. 100%

[lazyfisherman]

Cervjol are small accjol

[mulett75]

This info got from the official websit FISHBASE and it is clearly stating that cervjol and accol are the same fish

Malta country information 
Common names:  Accola, Cervjola, Serjola, Serra  Ref:  Lanfranco, G.G., 1996 
Status:  native  Ref:   
Salinity:  marine
Uses:  no uses 
Country
Information:  www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mt.html 
Occurrences:  Occurrences    Point map 
Main Ref:  Bauchot, M.-L., 1987 
Update 

[ganni]

cervjola = small acciola 

[MartinB]

cervjola = small acciola 

This 100%

[bigboy]

agree with you ganni

[robby017]

cervjola = small acciola 

1000000% agree