Cimi in the south

[mellieha]

Something in general to add is a comment I have seen highlighted before.  Loads of people are interested in places, techniques and equipment but very few people disclose theirs.  It is always the same 50 who contribute to the knowledge of the rest, the others just pump in info without giving in return.  

I could have just written my disagreement to the idea but no I expained the fishing technique from this aspect.

Hope more share their techniques

[mellieha]

@ benri.

there is a spot depending on the sun and current where the lampuki are present.  it is difficult to explain and even seeing it do is difficult to understand.

This is the place where fisherman place their nets to catch them.  IN Maltese known as dawra bil maghluq, i.e. surrounding the fad with the net.  Whilst there is another form much simpler less productive know as dara fil miftuh, where one surronds fish in open water.

[skip]

I remember going to Hurds Bank on a 30 foot boat for Lampuki and I wanted to fish near the anchored ships. Being the good skipper that I am! I radioed the vessel to ask for permission to run alongside and fish. Some said No with valid reasons like they were performing works on the side of the ship, some said yes with a surprised tone and a couple found it very amusing that I had asked for permission and whilst appreciating the request, pointed out that they had never come across another boat that had radioed for permission to approach.

I might add we had the crew out on the deck to watch, but FYI to all you are not allowed to approach close to an anchored vessel without permission...probably they don't say anything about the small boats but would be well within their right to report your registration number to the MMA. Given the distance from land, all boats out there should have a VHF and depending on what part of hurds bank you're under, vessels under 6m might even be breaking the law.

[benri]

Cheers Mellieha - much appreciated and I totally agree to your comments that it's always the same few genuine people who contribute to the knowledge of the rest!

[mellieha]

I don't expect everyone to be knowledgeable on each and every type of fishing but even if so one can still post his experiences so tha others can learn from their mistakes.

For me any my cousin to learn the technique associated with netting fads it took us loads of time around 3 seasons to master it well.  And loads of lost fish.  One has to factor surface wind, surface current, sun position or moon, the palm etc.  Only experience can teach things as their is no totally right way as even the most experienced get it wrong sometimes. 

Just imagine some pro's have nets as long as 400 phatoms to minimise risk and added to this they add rope to increase the circle's diameter.  All this is done not to disturbe the fish as much as possible.

[polidmar]

@Skip.  I fully admire your action prior to trolling next to a big ship.  Do you mind me asking if it was channel 12 that you called on .. and obviously the name of the ship i guess?

Thanks for your help.

[malteser]

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[skip]

@Skip.  I fully admire your action prior to trolling next to a big ship.  Do you mind me asking if it was channel 12 that you called on .. and obviously the name of the ship i guess?

Thanks for your help.

I called the vessel on Ch. 16 the hailing channel and then moved over straight away to a working channel. However 99% they would be monitoring channel 12 being anchored on Hurds Bank so worth calling them on Channel 12 first.

Basically I called them identifying myself and once established contact, informed them the direction from where I was approaching and the nature of my request.

[camkev]

I think we spoke about fads last year,we were thinking of laying our own fads as a forum!Remember skip?I think we should discuss it further and think about it for next year!By the way i have a couple of palm trees 

[bigboy]

Guys as you know we are part time commercial fishermen but have never worked for lampuki, though i have friends of mine who lay fads and it comsumes alot of their prescious time to prepare all the gear and then to work on the cimi.

Respect should be done always as it is their money which they will earn to feed their families. As many thougbt that this year less boats will be laying fads then many of you are wrong!! As some might know the swordfish season will close on the 30th september and open back on the  30th of november so many of those who usually keep fishing for swordfish are now going to turn onto laying fads.

[malteser]

Grazza tal fhimt il punt tijaj BIG BOY . anke jekk ic cimmi ikunu  bhal dawn tal bikri issib hafna nies irridu issibu kollox lest u ftit uma dawk li jajdu ha nitfa ftit cimmi u jkollhom fuq xiex jiehdu pjacir jekk ma jaqtowhomx iffimni......adhom ma jafux kemm trid tibla pirmli meta titnigez palma looll..

[LapsiBoy]

Ejdilom naqa

[bigboy]

Ahna dejjem irrispettajna lil dawk li jkunu qedin jahdmu al lampuki malteser. Bhal daz zmien inkunu al pixxispad ahna u hafna jafu li bic cimi daqxejn difficli tahdem al pixxispad. Pero qatt ma amilna hsara lil hadd (sakemm jkun fi zmienom mhux jigu jarmulek qabel l istagun). Kull meta waqajna ma cima dejjem qlajna l lett bil prudenza u fej kin hemm zbonn qtajna l lett tana biex ma namlux hsara lil haddihor.

[malteser]

kieku tkun taf bijom tista tirbot kaxxa mahhom ( ikollok naqa brim ) imma jekk issibhom go rasek naf kemm tibda thokk mohhok u tvexvex. Il punt u li awn skoss delletanti ima mux delletanti ta veru ax ma jriddux ibattu ,il lest sabih wisq. By d way  prosit ta dan il forum keep it up boyz

[alfadelta]

I agree with Skip and I think that his idea is good, there is no harm in trying.

My family have been going out fishing for lampuki for the past 30 years or so using the standard technique. My suggestion if we had to apply a permit with the authorities in the name of the forum we will be happy to prepare the cimi ourselfves, our only problem is that with our boat is are unable to take the stones out however if any of you guys have a Skuna or a strong boat that can take stones out at sea with no problems we can put them down together. we know how to as we used to do it in the past.  GPS co-ordinates will only be given out to people who contributes to the manufacturing, sponsering and laying down the cimi!