FAD ethics

mellieha · August 25, 2009, 10:38:57 CET

Definitely taking the law into one's hands is illegal.

shanook · August 25, 2009, 11:10:19 CET

you are required to stay about 500mtrs away from the fad if its not your own........

polidmar · August 25, 2009, 11:26:22 CET

Guys this is a matter of education and lack of greed! There aint any trolling speed (or racing speed) limit and will never be .. there aint any distance for shore fishermen to stay away from each other (and will never be) .. there aint any reserved places on the shore (and will never be) .. I honestly think that the commercial fishermen lay their FADs for their commercial activity but it has to be available to other sport fishermen as a consequence. The only way I see as fair is if time limits are imposed .. for example sports fishermen can only fish 6am - 6pm on the FADs. Guys lets face it .. if you do anything in a public place, it is not yours. So next time I fix the pavement do I expect commuters to pay for using it? If i fixed it, i fixed it for my own convenience! This is the way it works in life .. and we are no different. My 2 cents worth..

ed2112 · August 25, 2009, 11:57:50 CET

to stay 500 meters away from a every fad might not always be possible, since there are so many around....... plus the sea belongs to everyone.....and just cos the fads are there it does not mean that the sea around them belongs to who ever laid them....

apart from the fact that they are a threat to naviagtion......at least for people like me who travel at night. our biggest concern when making a crossing to sicily is looking out for these fads to make sure we do not run over one cos if one gets stuck in the prop in the middle of the night its big trouble....

on the other hand it must cost at least 5 euros per fad to lay down (and they might also have to pay a licence) so we cannot blame the commercial fishermen for trying to keep people away from their fads. this is after all their bread and butter and hey have spent lots of time and money to lay them out there...

bottom line......everyone needs to put up with everyone and be a little considerate and flexible....

ed

stevea · August 25, 2009, 12:07:05 CET

Shanook.... pls correct me... lets say you are trolling 10 kilometres away from shore and you encounter the first fads... ..... mela .. you make sure you are 500 metres from the Fad on the left...and 500 metres metre from the FAD on the right.... that leaves a corridor of what?

stevea · August 25, 2009, 12:09:34 CET

u bilhaqq.. Polidmar... make a sign.... for people to stay 2 metres away from your pavement,,,,and ED 2112... 5 euros for what??? for a FAD? u kidding? work, fuel, nylon, clths etc etc etc... its though for the fisherman

mellieha · August 25, 2009, 13:05:15 CET

Polidmar et al,

N one said do not pass from the sea adjacent to a fad. What is being said is not to fist around the fad for surface fish. This is totally different.

Fisherman pay an annual license for laying fads and a refundable deposit of LM 500 for such use.

It is true they are in a public space but not for you or me to exploit them at the expense of others.

Your quote simply puts more weight to my argument that even if some will be part in a club they will simply use it as an excuse to go on other fads and say they taught it was the clubs.

ed2112 · August 25, 2009, 14:32:48 CET

so stevea, what are you saying? that they cost more or less than 5 euros each?

mine is a rough estimate, but surely it must be some where around that mark.

ed

stevea · August 25, 2009, 14:54:40 CET

I think a 'rimja' of say 100 fads would defintely cost much more then 500 euros! Just think of all the work that must be done... and calculate at ..say minimum wage!

busumark · August 25, 2009, 14:56:43 CET

ed it depens how much deep is the sea where they lay there fads. there are some places that they need 8 euros for the orange nylon only. than thereis the thicker nylon to tie the stone, thicker nylon for the float, the stone, maybe a swivel, fuel for the boat, fuel for the truck to get palm leaves and stones, a lot of work , maybe you get stung by a palm leave and you need medication make this multiply by 100 times or more and you can have an aproximite cost of a rimja plus the government license. and you have to take account that a lot of fads are cut by bad weather, those fishing for swordfish( if they really get stuck and cant do otherwise), by ships, by those that stop for fanfri and tie with the cima and can get cut if there is a lot of current. all these cut fads have to be replaced so its not a one time expence they have to replace the missing fads.

stevea · August 25, 2009, 15:52:18 CET

I am attaching the Fishery Regulations (very interesting reading). Articles 26 and 27 state that it is illegal to fish close to 180 metres from an authorized FAD (in Malta 130 rimji allocated - if these are not all taken up, foreingers can indeed make use of this resource). The act is punishable in the same way as a contravention (tahrika) plus confiscation of the fish.

shanook · August 25, 2009, 16:38:24 CET

So its 180mtrs oh well my mistake guys. So in the good old days when we measured by feet and inches it must have been 500 feet.
Re other comments I dont have to reply to.

placebo · August 25, 2009, 17:53:29 CET

do not give new ideas to authorities.

pls stop such hot arguments and everyone keep fishing the same way.
everyone know what is right and wrong. After all being a good fisherman is not asking FAD coordinations and stuff. Go search for the fish yourself and whenever you see other people fishing on an FAD never interrupt.

after all lampuki is not all about FADs. I did great catches near fishfarms, bouys and other floating material.

LapsiBoy · August 25, 2009, 18:42:27 CET

And under cliffs placebo, my friend makes great catches and even i catch under cliffs. it's a natural cima afterall

Destination Sea · August 25, 2009, 19:57:26 CET

and palletts