New Boat & Motor!!

[shanook]

kev u wereon a boat with an evenrude.So u can makes ome type of comparison.
What type of boat was that u were on when u caught the pastardella? did it go as fast as u expected?

[busumark]

kurtfalcon the 40 e tech is as heavy as the mariner 4-stroke 110 kg so it is not lighter

[kurtfalcon]

Busumark you are right. The Evinrude E-tec 40hp weighs 109 kgs since it has the same block as the 50 and 60. The mariner 40hp 4 stroke is 9kg lighter. But then compare the 225 E-tec or the 225 OptiMax with the 225 Verado. 235kg and 231kg vs the 288kg of the Verado. The 225 E-tec and optimax weigh as much as the Verado 150 does.

So guys, 99% of the Direct injection 2-strokes are lighter than their 4-stroke counterparts.

[skip]

The weight distribution issue is certainly very interesting. personally i don't think four strokes are much good on smaller lighter boats, but once you go past the 100hp range I think its a very different story. On many 4 strokes, you'll see that sometimes a 40/50/60 all use the same block so have very similar weights.....meaning the 40hp is just too heavy for most boats.

Looking forward to going out and trying some of the Etec models.

[camkev]

I think i will go for an e-tech,after being on fortuna'a boat which is equipped with a 75 e-tech engine...economy was great and perfomance as well and when you accelarate that noise gives me .................in the next weeks i will go and have a look at some boats aprox 17 or 18 foot maximum and check some prices to compare between e-tech and 4 stroke!!

[Shaftbomb]

Skip, what do you mean by " once you go past the 100hp range I think its a very different story"?  I am also really interested in buying an etec but wish there was more than one etec owner here on the forum.  I just need to ask more questions of reliability and dealer questions.

[shanook]

shaftbomba regarding the motor u can go to other forum (USA ones) and u can read about the E-tech. Here in Malta they have not been used for a long time so not a very good comparison. What you can get from Local etech users is the after sales service that has been offered.
I dont understand either what skip had in mind, as over the 100hp the Etech is even better in performance than the smaller outboards when compared with 4 stroke.

[kurtfalcon]

There are several e-tec owners on the forum shaftbomb. They should reply on this topic before long. As for the " over 100hp" thing i have to agree with shanook. In smaller outboards there isn't much difference. Direct Injection 2-strokes provide better torque than 4-strokes which is what is needed the larger the boat gets.

[shanook]

shaftbomba kellem li camkev ghax hu beda it topic forsi jekk dak li titghalmu taqsmuh u taghmlu ghazla ahjar. Forsi jekk tmorru it tnejn fdaqqa jaf jerhilkom xi haga............tipprova trid?

[skip]

What I meant was that I think I would be more inclined towards a good 4 stroke when over 100hp rather than a DI engine. The larger DI engines require more oil I guess and I already use a fair bit in mine which needs to be factored in when considering the running costs. And the weight comparisons seem to be very similar between the larger DI engines and the 4's......I admit I haven't been out on a boat with a big DI engine but from what I've seen of the modern 4's I seem to prefer them.

The big optimax's are a hit with those looking for speed and seem to be favoured by the racing guys......I guess so far I've been so impressed by Benri's Suzuki 140 that it has me feeling very biased. But until i get to go out on a similar sized DI engine it will be hard to compare.

[camkev]

@ shaftbomb..for me it's not a problem if you want to go together..i will be seing some boats as well..tks shanook 

[Shaftbomb]

For me it's not a problem Camkev...however im currently abroad...so that's a problem.  Was just at a boatshow here in the states....inboard engines were inexistent - all boats powered by outboards.  The majority of boats were powered by yamaha, suzuki and mercury verados.  The best bet I think is to have a trial run and compare like with like.  However still confused about suzuki agents in Malta - on this website there are ads saying suzuki imported by Mecca Marine and other websites and tv ads saying suzuki agents are Zarb Stores.  Not that it matters to me who is the agent but it's more a question of aftersales, spare parts, guarantee, etc, etc.....

[Destination Sea]

I know a guy down at B bugia running a 225 etec on a 23ft boat if not mistaken.. pls confirm kurt.. he is happy with it as far as i know. If you require any other info regading the etec sales etc please let me know. I will try to help as much as possible. Kev regarding the noise you stated....  ie. it hums as goes!!!

[skip]

Zarb Stores are the only Distributor authorized by Suzuki.

Mecca import Suzuki through their own channel from a distributor in Europe.

The term agent is an old fashioned one with the advent of free trading across Europe.

[shanook]

So I am assuming that Suzuki supply Zarb stores as an Authorized distributor  and Mecca import from Italy or somewhere in Europe since we have free trading.
Kev there are a lot of boats to look at. there are some nice ones or good ones that we dont see advertised here like quicksilver and olympus, edgewater which can be bought from Uk. first check the prices here and then do a search on internet. What size were u thinking of and is it with cabin or centre console. PM if u like i give u phone number and have a chat or we have a beer someplace.
I might go to the London boat show as i missed the Genoa one.
Shaftbomba did u see any boats that caught ur eye.......there are boats that have a good hull that planes quickly so saving on gas as well as being sea worthy.