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« on: January 16, 2011, 08:08:25 CET »

Hi Guys, I would like to get your opinions/methods when changing lures while trolling.
Do you prepare your lures with a leader for each lure or do you use just one leader with a pin swivel and just change the lure?
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2011, 08:18:39 CET »

For every lure I have a leader.  Pin swivels attached at the head of the lure tend to interfere with the swimming action of lures.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 08:33:18 CET »

Thanks Gaffer. Currently I'm using a similar set up to yours (but swivel on rod side) and was thinking of switching over to one leader with different lures. In fact you pinpointed the issue I am worried about, that is the swivel interfering with the swimming action but I never tried it.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 09:44:07 CET »

Yep agreed one swivel at the end of line with Rod.....Each lure with its leader


Thats why sometimes i find difficulty in believing the fluorocarbon. I have SAME lures (colour and all) with different leaders and I get hit on any of them. Maybe the fluoro is invisible but stiff and the other is more flexible and creates less bubbles ( i dont know)

Important if you are using the Rapalas or similar to tie them with their recommended knot otherwise the swimming action is compromised
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 10:14:24 CET »

Yes Shanook - generally I use crimps and loop.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2011, 12:18:36 CET »

l use the same leader and re tie lures when required using  the  'non slip loop knot'
Swivel clips and crips can effect the lures action

http://www.netknots.com/html/non_slip_loop_knot.html
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2011, 12:23:31 CET »

thats the one rapala recommends: 
twoutes I like to change lures every half an hour if I am not catching and the easiest part is with a snapswivel about 2mtrs away from the lure.
I know it causes turbulance but i like straight runners, poppers, jetheads and slant heads, I dont like the deep divers with lips as they slow e down and arenot very good for sharp turns. If I want to go deep I attach a weight, chain or lead.
and I am sure that either of the two cause more turbulance than a swivel
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2011, 12:55:03 CET »

I'm sure that a swivel clip two metres away will not effect the swimming action of your lures Shanook, and is a good easy way to change lures without tying knots.
But in our case the swivel clip in the water itself becomes a target, and with lots of toothy critters like baracuda an d mackerel here you can find yourself loosing many expensive lures in a short time.
In any case l like to have minimal harware to none in the water, as it just presents more things that can go wrong.
Since the introduction of 'wind on' leaders, l find that l dont use any clips or swivels at all when trolling....just my opinion Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2011, 13:27:00 CET »

what's a wind on leader Twoutes please? how do you attach them to the main line? Won't you have line twist without the swivel?
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2011, 13:28:56 CET »

For every lure I have a leader and I suggest to use a Rapala knot. It will not interfere with the lure while swimming.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2011, 18:04:49 CET »

This is a very interesting post. Well done Benri. I have the problem of having to carry a bagful of jablos with different lures on each of them. This is by far a more convenient way having 1 main line and different lures with leaders on one piece of jablo.

@Shanook & Gaffer - how do you tie the leader to the main line - a direct knot on the swivel and having to cut leader each time you change or use a snap swivel.

Another question please: some lures, apart from the o-ring fixed within the lure, have a split-ring attached to it. Should these split-rings be removed and the leader tied directly to the o-ring of the lure?

These videos will help to practise knots mentioned further up in post.

Rapala Lnot
http://www.netknots.com/html/rapala_knot.html

Non-Slip Loop Knot
http://www.netknots.com/html/non_slip_loop_knot.html
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