MFF Club/Association

[SEAFOX]

Gogo - I think that you misunderstood what I was trying to convey. Consequently I wish to clarify. The Federation having a few hundred paid members with a very well organized committee has the necessary "forza" and can make strong representations in every sector, are entitled for certain benefits etc..

Despite the huge numbers enrolled in the MFF, the Federation is way ahead of us on these terms; cos we are not an association. Basically...we are a "kannol bla krema", hence the need to form the ghada.

[shanook]

Since you closed the post GOGO I will not be addressing you as I did before.  I will write for the information of the MFF members. Knowledge is power. We have to learn from past mistakes to make sure not to repeat them. If one does not analyze the past then the future is bleak. The analysis is not to blame or point fingers at people but to learn. sometimes immediate circumstance dictate actions that will be seen as not so good in future times. The problem would be that one still insists that the result is a gain?

What I have written and what GOGO the federation secretary has written can easily be read and interpreted. I was not a hothead and I used my brains thank God for that I thought I was getting senile.

As it can be clearly seen by his post the regulations were biased. I am in favour  that the Full time fisherman is safeguarded as it is his lively hood, but not at the expense of the Amateur fisherman.  
The rest one can easily see all the fantastic gains we made when these MF's were introduced.
I will write about GOGO's comments in another post.

Some people cant take criticism it seems............one last thing lest I forget, to have premises and members and what have you and not be able to get the best conditions for the people you are representing is not a very good sign.
We have barely touched the subject....how about safe harbours for the tax paying amateur fisherman, filling stations, decent slipways, parking space for trailers etc etc........

[skip]

Colin I would beg to differ that even today the MFF are "kannol bla krema"

Two summer's ago we succesfully negotiated having a catch and release authorisation during the summer season after they prematurely closed the season having issued a permit which we could never utilise. I'm not sure what position the Federation took on this issue but we didn't hear anything at the time.

The following year FCD issued a formal application for catch and release following some meetings with us where we communicated that at the very least we should have that facility complete with reporting of any catch and released as per EU requirements and this application was communicated to all forum members.

As you all know it is no good just relying on the Government Gazzette and a notice here and there in the newspaper, when these applications for such permits/authorisations cannot even be found on any Fisheries website, and if it wasn't for notifications on the forum the message would have never gone out to the right people.

We've also been instrumental in providing a place for the 'latest' fishing regulations and even in reporting some illegal fishing activity.......far from bla krema 

However in order to further continue our efforts in a proper manner and enhance on what has already been achieved we need a proper recognised NGO to be in place. Once that has been created we will be using our full force to protect Recreational Fishermen in general......I'm pretty confident that our numbers will be welcomed by the federation following a recent drop in its memberbase as some clubs pulled out, and together there will be the extra force needed to at least get our voice heard properly.

[The_Gaffer]

Hear hear Skip.  ...Shanook, the MFF club committee is the best fora to discuss these issues.  We can all benefit from everybody's experience.  We should take the lessons learnt from past mistakes, and ensure they are never repeated again.  This is not the end of discussion, indeed, it is just the beginning, and I see Shanook has already started to propose the items for an interesting agenda.I suggest we move on, speed up the formation of the club, and stick in.  We have alot of work cut out for us for the benefit of the recreational fisherman.

[SEAFOX]

Fine Nick, I do agree to a certain extent with what you state, however representations have been done on a sublime level being entertained on our goodwill on the issues you mention.
Therefore if the MFF has so much "krema" then why do we need an "Association"?.. you said it..our position today results in being notifed of certain regulations receiving info indirectly from "reliable sources",flipping tru the Govermnet Gazzette or newspapers.

As things stand we do not have any official "say", no horsepower at all, we cannot be officially recognized by the Central Government offices simply because we are today not an "accepted" NGO.
Shanook has already started the ball rolling with certain issues that are of huge value. Obviously what happened in the past with those silly decisions has to be forgotten.

My message of gathering support for this new era, which appears to be misinterpreted, is to establish a well organized strong association, which would allow us to move forward and have a strong "voice" in those departments where it really matters.

[The_Gaffer]

Right guys...lets move on please.  How about all of you suggesting a catchy name for our new club.  We don't have to incorporate the word club into the name, and no mention of association.  We could though, include the MFF.  try something catchy...something fresh, and modern. Go for it guys

[caldaland]

lets keep it simple and informative.
                          "MALTA FISHING CLUB"

[caldaland]

http://c.www.vphosted.com/vp/ns/logos/viewlogo.caspx?cnf=MALTA%20FISHING%20CLUB&icid=412&csid=86&fsid=2&txid=4&tid=1&cfid=0&xcf=&arid=8&msid=0&drid=0&width=285&height=225&admin=True&render_tech=HybridGdipWpf

[chrisxue]

ISLANDS RECREATIONAL FISHERMEN ASSOCIATION

[caldaland]

ISLANDS RECREATIONAL FISHERMEN ASSOCIATION

nice name but in my modest opinion we should go for something easy to remember. not all fishermen know english or are inclined to remeber complicated names even thou they sound nice.

[malvizzu]

MFF FISHING CLUB (or Association)

[Moonwalker]

MFFC or  MFF Club or MFF Fishing Club

[shanook]

I agree with whatever Name is used as long as it is simple.
Are we going to go SOLO in this or are we joining the federation?!?!?!
are we going to apply for premises? if positive on the North, Central or South of Malta?!?!
Close to a bay or more village like?!?!!?
will it be big for members to meet in or just office like???
It would be nice to hear the opinion of the members apart from the name of the club

[shanook]

I like the logo caldaland but a beer bottle would have been more appropriate LOL
Nice initiative

[baghira]

I was asking myself this...
Being it a club I think we would be needing a premises to meet.....
Somewhere central maybe, if it would be by the sea much better.....
A boathouse maybe :-)