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« on: August 01, 2011, 14:13:20 CET »

Enjoying our usual family day out on the boat yesterday, I was very surprised to learn from the Police that Sea urchins (RIzzi) are now protected by a legal notice issued in the previous week or two.
As usual, when we're all there on the boat, 'The Baldacchino clan' indulge in their favorite dish, Spaghetti Rizzi - with the rizzi caught fresh, split in 2, and the ladies painstakingly remove the orange bits from inside.  This could not happen yesterday Angry
After my oldest son, son in law(to be) and myself spent over an hour collecting our spiked delicacies from 4 meters deep, we proceeded to make our way back to The Gaffer.  Almost immediately, we were approached by a Police rubber dingy.  The Police kindly asked to inspect the bags we had on our small tender dingy.  The Police informed us that collecting Sea Urchins was against the law, as they are now protected by a legal notice.  I was utterly shocked, and the police empatised with my disbelief as they only got to know about the legal notice last week!!!.  Needless to say, we were instructed to throw all the Sea urchins back into the sea (we had about 14 dozen!!!).  
Is anybody here aware of this legal notice!!!!

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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 14:19:47 CET »

This is the first time I am hearing it and I would like to see an official post about this in the media...
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 14:31:36 CET »

Further to my previous post, I have come accross a statement which actually says Sea Urchins in Malta are a protected species.  I am attaching the link, scroll down to Divers code of proctice: http://www.maltainsideout.com/14927/maltas-divers-marine-users-volunteer-to-protect-cirkewwa/

read: Do not damage urchins, as the rock sea urchin and the Needle-Spined Urchin (Cetrostephanus longispinus) are protected species
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 14:48:03 CET »

the best thing to do is to contact the Fisheries and ask for a written confirmation.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 14:52:11 CET »

Interesting Joe, though I can't find any 2011 legal notice referencing Sea Urchins or Rizzi (tried a search on both terms).

Were the Police able to confirm the legal notice number, or better still produce a copy? Could be some other type of enforcement that perhaps our friends at FCD can confirm.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 14:57:23 CET »

Well we can expect more and more of these legal notices to crop up, which is why i keep bothering people about Catch and release, we need to get used to it, and we need to show the authorities that, as sports fishermen we are responsible with our catches and they should not be targeting us!

on a lighter note ... Joe ... did you really need to collect 4 dozen sea Urchins for a few plates of pasta?
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 14:58:31 CET »

who are the FCD?

Interesting Joe, though I can't find any 2011 legal notice referencing Sea Urchins or Rizzi (tried a search on both terms).

Were the Police able to confirm the legal notice number, or better still produce a copy? Could be some other type of enforcement that perhaps our friends at FCD can confirm.

when I proved the letter Bagira had on this topic http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php/topic,3085.0.html , they told me that Raymond Caruana has no authority to say that.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 17:29:10 CET »

could this be it... HuhHuh

http://www.doi.gov.mt/EN/legalnotices/2011/07/LN%20282.pdf

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Regulation (EU) No 579/2011 of 8 June 2011
amending Council Regulation (EC) NO 850/98 for the
conservation of fishery resources through the technical
measures for the protection of juveniles of marine
organisms
and Council Regulation (EC) No 1288/2009
establishing transitional technical measures from 1
January 2010 to 30 June 2011



EU LAW:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:165:0001:0002:MT:PDF

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REGOLAMENT (UE) Nru 579/2011 TAL-PARLAMENT EWROPEW U TAL-KUNSILL
tat-8 ta’ Ġunju 2011
li jemenda r-Regolament tal-Kunsill (KE) Nru 850/98 dwar il-konservazzjoni ta’ riżorsi tas-sajd permezz ta’ miżuri tekniċi għall-protezzjoni ta’ żgħar ta’ organiżmi tal-baħar u r-Regolament tal- Kunsill (KE) Nru 1288/2009 li jistabbilixxi miżuri tekniċi tranżitorji mill-1 ta’ Jannar 2010 sat-30 ta’ Ġunju 2011

However, this does not directly relate to 'rizzi' but to protect the young of marine organisims  Undecided Undecided Undecided
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 18:23:58 CET »

Well as I posted, there seems to be some sort of protection, as it's also indicated on another website.
Charles, when you plan to cook pasta for 7 people, you need a good strong sauce
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 19:08:12 CET »

notice the use of the preposition 'of'....... protection of juveniles of marine
organisms........ which is being used as a function word to indicate something from which a person or thing is delivered.

Thus if i am interpreting the law correctly....... its not the sea urchin that is protected but the roe within it...... which further implies that the whole sea urchin must be protected as if it is damaged, the roe inside is killed......

 
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 20:19:31 CET »

notice the use of the preposition 'of'....... protection of juveniles of marine
organisms........ which is being used as a function word to indicate something from which a person or thing is delivered.

Thus if i am interpreting the law correctly....... its not the sea urchin that is protected but the roe within it...... which further implies that the whole sea urchin must be protected as if it is damaged, the roe inside is killed......

 

if they apply this law to the sea urchin than no one can catch a fish because it might have eggs in it
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2011, 00:29:43 CET »

Well as I posted, there seems to be some sort of protection, as it's also indicated on another website.
Charles, when you plan to cook pasta for 7 people, you need a good strong sauce

Cheesy ok ... got the message
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2011, 08:31:02 CET »

Jekk mhix ligi, invenzjoni ohra din.
I gave up guys with the authorities, waste of time, unprofessional, abusers.
I do what I deem right, and if someone else beleives it is not, prosectue me and then we see in court.

I know nothing about such law, and I do not intend to check, since that i would invest useless time and money.

Emic when someone gives me info which I need, I always double check if law exists. That was the case, meaning that the authority who told you such words, should not read what others say, but should read the law, and  interpret accordingly. Sometimes there are stupid lazy individuals that wait for others to read, and they only say what other's (superiors) tel them to do.

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2011, 08:32:15 CET »

By the way, these are the persons who should educate us themselves, and not threaten us citizens.

Aren't we terrorists.!!!
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2011, 12:49:05 CET »

By the way, these are the persons who should educate us themselves, and not threaten us citizens.

Aren't we terrorists.!!!


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