20-22ft boat

LapsiBoy · September 09, 2011, 00:38:42 CET

As far as seaworthiness i definitaly suggest qalfat from gozo not telling you this because we own one but trough experience. Just check around maybe give him a call..I bet if you fit a turbo diesel engine between 200-300Hp and combine it with a z-drive you can get those speeds in force 3/4 easy..or maybe twin engine's have a look, and dont judge a book by it's cover ! always get some good sea trials before you make a deal..dont let the looks convince you. The only thing with inboard's is that the cost might get a little high...

skip · September 09, 2011, 15:18:51 CET

Have you looked into Karnic Boats? The agent is CHL Ltd in Rabat

camkev · September 09, 2011, 16:17:01 CET

Karnic boats are very nice,the only problem is that they are very low and too close to the sea.

skip · September 09, 2011, 17:36:32 CET

Which model Kev? I am looking at a circa 22 footer and its looks good perhaps some of the smaller older models are like that ?

redhead · September 09, 2011, 19:12:06 CET

Hello my friends. I would like to add my 2 cent to this topic. I own a 15 year old Kaptan Sway which out of the factory was 18 feet long. This year we decided to rebuild this boat and all the work was carred out by the same manufacturer. The boat was modified to accomodate an outboard motor. We removed the 2 diesel inboards and placed a 225 e-tec at the back. The hull is now 20feet long including the new bracket which is practicaly part of the hull. Top speed is now 42knts and we can run indefinitly with speeds of over 30knts. The hull even at these speeds is rock solid and manuvrability is at it's best. It's true that the boat is old and it does not have the looks of a newer boat but I wouldn't change it for anything else in it's category. As far as fuel consumption we where pleasently surprised. The motor burns 40liters and hour at a speed of 30knts, 30lts and hour at a speed of 24knts and 4ltrs an hour at 6knts. We are very happy with the investment we made in this old lady which now can outperform most of it's more modern competitors. And if you want to know how a Kaptan Sway performes in force 3 winds than you can ask who ever owns or has owned one of these boats. And the good news is that now, the same boat builder is working on, and building a new 18ft model.

Shaftbomb · September 09, 2011, 20:41:47 CET

Skip, on maltapark there is a Petecraft 22 with an etec225 for sale. Search under the name Tamasha if it interests you. I have spoken to the guy over the phone and has a genuine reason for selling and says he can prove the boat runs at a top end speed of 43/44 kts.

camkev · September 09, 2011, 20:47:36 CET

Forgot the model skip but for sure it was over 20 feet..i saw them a few years ago at the boat show.

shanook · September 09, 2011, 23:21:05 CET

A fiberglass boat better be heavy as it will buck like a bronco in heavy weather.........its nice to have a lighter fast moving boat that slices the waters but in rough weather u need a boat that keeps steady and does not dip its bow in the oncoming waves........
All I can suggest Julian is to take sea trials in rough and calm waters that way u be sure of what u need and how they perform. I will not suggest what to buy as I will be prejudiced to a particular brand.........
Good luck.........I have to say this... my first choice would be an Edgewater from the foreign...... Locally .......well......u have a smaller one and u know how it performed when the sea got really rough on you........would another brand have got u home?!?!?!?!?!?! ur call mate

Moonwalker · September 10, 2011, 00:08:30 CET

I am in Gozo this weekend and will be taking a look at Qalfat boats while here.

About Karnic I crossed them out some time ago already because they only offer inboard engines it seems.
I fell in love with outboards and my new boat will be with an outboard or twin for sure.

About Kaptan boats I already know how solid and sea worthy they are. Otherwise I would have looked at another boat long ago but as I said above my current boat is serving me quite well. I heared about the new 18ft model they are building and will be having a look at it next week.
Why are you selling yours Tony?

Thanks all for the feedback.

ganni · September 10, 2011, 02:20:37 CET

about karnic...well they are available with outboard too...and i dont think they are low in the water, just as a fishing boat should be...just started fishing on one cause my fishing buddy just bought one... first time out we were in force 6 and with very big swell (and not imagining like most people do) handled the sea well at 10 knots...didn't go for more speed since it was the first time in that weather with this boat.

Meccanic · September 10, 2011, 06:08:33 CET

Quote from: skip on September 08, 2011, 21:27:17 CET
Not sure the Marino's qualify at all as an offshore Deep V hull that can do 30 knots in F3-4, deadrise and hull design is all wrong and far too shallow and the construction and amount of material they use far too light/scarce.

And the problem is that unless he can actually test a model on the water and verify that he can get the speed he wants and the sea keeping ability requested, I doubt Moonwalker would take a leap of faith like some ppl might.

The local boat builders are very busy Julian and barely have enough time to even log on to the forum, you can try PM CrsPetecraft but I would advise you clear a couple of hours and go speak to them directly at their new premises near Bortex - Marsa Industrial Estate. Buccaneer are close by as well.

the Marino IRIDE 640 is not the Gabry Nick. Completely different construction and design as it is a 6meter plus boat. It has a Deep V Hull - Cat B Off Shore Certified!

Yes we can also organise a sea trial should he be interested. I remind you that this boat can take a 175Hp Outboard... therefore ample speed is guaranteed and performs well also in rough seas as several boat owners can testify.

Although not as fast as Julian might want, the Arvor Range are very popular too:
http://www.arvor-boat.com/Arvor/en.aspx

busumark · September 10, 2011, 09:14:24 CET

The Arvor are nice boats but how come a 7.3 m boat is rated max HP 150 HP and a 6.88 m boat rated max HP 115 HP. and they are both rated Category C inshore. i would expect every boat over 20 ft to be rated Category B offshore

shanook · September 10, 2011, 20:01:31 CET

Getting old Julian need a smaller boat leave the offshore thingy to u younger guys now. All I need is a trip to the fishfarms, maybe amateur fads and a bottom sea for Pagell.... thats a 12 mile trip *thats coastal fishing to where we used to go'' I used to go further than that when I had the 14foot Kaptan, with a 15hp. those were the days...
Good luck in ur search and dont rush it mate....

Moonwalker · September 11, 2011, 19:32:22 CET

Lol getting old Tony? Most ppl would buy a boat when they start getting old since they have more free time

Nice spotting that Mark. If its rated C inshore than its definitely not good for me. The IRIDE 640 is rated B offshore so will keep that in the list.

Will also add Karnic again if they offer Outboard options. They seem nice boats too.

Had a sea ride on a 18ft Qalfat boat today and it handled the sea very well although it was relatively calm. However they dont have a cabin for the 20ft model yet and it is designed for inboard only.

This is getting really complicated - a lot of sea trials are on the way....

Shaftbomb · September 11, 2011, 22:31:48 CET

From what u r saying I think the best two boats for u would be the Petecraft 20 or the buccaneer 205. Both have the requirements u r asking for. U claimed u already tested the Petecraft boat, so may I ask what was your verdict of the boat's sea trial? If you haven't tested the buccaneer 205, I think Joe the Gaffer once told me he owned one, so he can tell you how it behaves.