Help - Fishing For Alungi

shanook · April 24, 2008, 19:03:59 CET

Busumark if u are using a hand line try with 60Lb it is more than enough. do u use tanks that drop in water when u the fish strikes? if yes then connect ur tanks as well to a (Korlin) nylon rope so that u dont have to stop and turn the boat to pick up the tanks. if u dont use tanks and hold the line with a loop have an extra 30 qama in a tyank or wrapped on cork and when the albacore hits first hold it a bit to set the hook and then let go slowly (use of gloves helps) then after the initial run start reeling in the fish u shouldnt have any problems. On a hand line I pulled in a swordfish of 20Kg and that has no comparision to alungi. I usually have a fluorocarbon or normal line of 90/100Lbs.

Gazzetta · April 24, 2008, 19:27:14 CET

So I'll leave the reel equipped with the 40 lb for more lightwieght catches.
I think I'll go for the berkley on the new okuma. What rating should I get ? I'm gonna buy it from Ta Bormla in Mosta cause I think he's the only one who gets berkley !! In previous post Skip said the one can use 30 lb berkley which will break around 50 lb maybe that way one can reel in more line or am I wrong ?
Size of leader with the berkley ??

Thanks a lot guys.
Chris

skip · April 24, 2008, 21:29:06 CET

Remember it's not the std berkley line it has to be Berkley Premium Hi-Test to get that increased breaking rate I mentioned. Momoi do something similiar but I doubt Ta Bormla has it as most people wouldnt pay the extra. you are better off buying it online. Otherwise just use std 40lbs.

shanook · April 24, 2008, 22:15:55 CET

Gazzetta if It was up to me I would load the Okuma with a 30lb line. try to see which makes have the smaller diameter for a 30lb line. Dont go for expensive line just keep it simple. As for a leader I usually keep my lures with a leader attached and keep the snap swivel on the main line. The leader can be an 80Lb just to be safe on chaffs and teeth cuts.IF u are lucky (or unlucky) to catch a tuna as long as its in the 25Kg range and u set ur drag right then u dont have a problem. If u catch anything larger than tough luck. the way i reason if u have a heavier line and a bigger rod and reel for alungi it wont be fun and if u catch a big tuna 200Kg u will still not hold it so whats the use of oversizing. A rod and reel to hold a 200 kg tuna would run in the 600/1000 LM and i dont think any of us are that keen to spend that much for a once in a lifetime. Thats just my opinion and way of thinking. Give it a shot this year with your gear and next year u can decide for urself all the changes to make.

Happy fishing

busumark · April 24, 2008, 23:22:17 CET

shanook i do like you said i always have a 5 lts tank attached to the rixa with orange nylon in tank just in case for something big. but i dont go for alungi a lot if its really calm i prefer deep sea fishing

Gazzetta · April 25, 2008, 10:13:03 CET

Quote from: The_Gaffer on April 24, 2008, 14:18:17 CET
Quote from: Gazzetta on April 24, 2008, 13:23:47 CET

40lbs leader for albacore (alungi) is lightweight. I think if you get hit by an alunga it could snap.

Hi Guys,

So only as a leader the 40 lb is lightweight right ? I can also use the 30lb for the main line

!!!

Maybe that's more for the expert ones on drag hehe. If the 40lb is used as the main line and a leader of 60 - 80 lb of fluorocarbon would do fine. I'll check exactly what type of Berkley line does TA BORMLA offer and let you know. It's the only one I know who gets berkley, and I'm 100% sure he gets online aswell !!
I'll keep you informed.

Thanks
Chris

The_Gaffer · April 25, 2008, 10:39:39 CET

Hi Chris,

As a beginner, try and go for 30-40lbs main line, and 60lbs leader. Berkley is a good choice, I've used it before I started using momoi diamond. I use momoi because it is graded at the same breaking strenght but with a lesser diameter. As a beginner, you should also be conservative on the drags, until you get used to the feel of the pull from a fish. Its better to take that extra 5 minutes to reel in a fish then to tighten the drags and lose the fish!!!

shanook · April 25, 2008, 13:10:41 CET

Gazzetta sorry for asking but u do know how to set the drag on the Okuma YES. if not post so we can help.

Gazzetta · April 25, 2008, 13:21:10 CET

Hi Guys,

I know how to set the drag on the Okuma but I would like to learn more. How should I set the drag for Albacore ? I usually set it exactly so that the lure soes not take line out of the reel while trolling, is that a correct measure ?

Teach me guys !! I want to learn moreeee !!!

Chris

shanook · April 25, 2008, 13:37:40 CET

u have a leaver drag. So put the handle on strike that is all the way to the first button right. Now u have to know the size of line so that u set the drag before u leave home. so lets say u have a 30 lb line set the strike on 12 or 14 lbs (i am telling u higher as u dont have a lot of line on ur okuma.to set the drag i usually fill bottles of water in a bucket and lift it with the rod, the feeling is that the rod will snap. when u go fishing place the drag leaver about half way up to the strike zone (this way u have about 5Lbs drag) dont try pulling the line with ur hands thats a hearsay. when the fish strikes u have enough drag not to let the fish unspool u. lift the handle to strke and set the hook (two jerks are enough) slow down the boat (DO NOT STOP THE BOAT) and start reeling in the fish always keeping the boat at an idle. When the fish is close to the boat dont pull hard and keep the fish behind u NEVER LET AN ALUNGA GO FORWARD OF THE LINE, as then the fish will make a run for it and with ur 4o lbs, short line and full drag u might get a line break. if u catch something different to alunga it will still be taking line then turn the baot in its direction and wind fast then stop the boat and take it from there.

skip · April 25, 2008, 14:04:55 CET

Technically on 30lbs line your FULL strike setting shouldn't be more than 1/2 of the line rating, so not more than 15lbs. Strike should be between 7.5 and 9.9lbs working on a 25-33% respectively and 50% for full, which is when you push that button and move up further.

Remember that on lever drag reels to adjust these figures, first warm up the drag but pulling line out and reeling in and then move the lever to zero (freespool) adjust the drag block screw, and then test again at strike and full as described by shanook.

redbus9 · April 25, 2008, 16:42:37 CET

Hi Gazzetta,just for me to know,whats the stated line capacityof your reel? yards of mono and llbs breaking strain.Also,if you dont mind what did you pay for it,and did you have to pay shipping charges? thanks

Gazzetta · April 25, 2008, 19:18:10 CET

Hi redbus9,

So the Okuma's line capacity is : 20 lbs 580 yds
30 lbs 430 yds
35 lbs 330 yds

Regarding price, I tried to find out how much I paid for it but I couldn't find it !! Sry. I remember I found a bargain price from ebay, that's for sure.

Chris

Gazzetta · April 26, 2008, 10:40:48 CET

Quote from: shanook on April 25, 2008, 13:37:40 CET
u have a leaver drag.

Isn't the Okuma a Star drag ??

Chris

skip · April 26, 2008, 17:34:56 CET

Indeed it is. Welcome to the nightmare of knowing where you are with Star Drags!! You can use a marker to mark where your drag off position is and then try and mark the other settings. So you would have something like a tippex mark on one of the star drags notches and several on the reel. With star drags it's not easy to know what pressure you are putting as you dont have easy reference.