Braided Lines For Spinning

malvizzu · January 04, 2010, 12:12:52 CET

A question which might sound stupid - is braided line used for fishing squids or only for fish? And what is the ideal fishing line for squids?

jean · January 04, 2010, 14:30:04 CET

I use a small Mitchell reel (Avoced) with 0.14 braid if i remember correctly. At the end of it I put a shock leader via allbright knot with a .25 tiger line (normal one i use for sargi) or a .30 florocoated. I don't know if its the best set-up for squid so ideas/opinions are welcome .

Have to see where best to get that spiderwire from. Any ideas?

SPITEC · January 04, 2010, 14:33:09 CET

Although it can be used for squid fishing it would be a waste because with a mono line from 0.20 up to 0.25 you would be fishing well and you don't need a lot of line 100meters is enough.The most important for the line is that the line should be no memory.

malvizzu · January 04, 2010, 18:23:15 CET

What do you mean by "no memory"? It seems familiar from something on eBay but don't know what it means.

maltembu · January 04, 2010, 18:35:09 CET

Quote from: malvizzu on January 04, 2010, 18:23:15 CET
What do you mean by "no memory"? It seems familiar from something on eBay but don't know what it means.

A line is refered to as having 'low memory' or 'no memory' if when it is taken off the spool or reel the line does not retain the 'memory' of how it was when it was on the spool and goes out straight from the rod with no sign of coiling or twisting.

SPITEC · January 04, 2010, 21:25:03 CET

As explained very well by maltembu and also you can cast further out because you will have less friction and less bird nests.

malvizzu · January 05, 2010, 07:47:38 CET

Thanks guys for the info. I must say I am learning so many things all at ones that I never dreamed off. And I thought I knew a lot about fishing. Ha!!!!!!

jean · February 05, 2010, 16:52:09 CET

I tried the Berkley Whiplash Crystal Braid. Its a white braid with excellent properties. The size I tried is the 20lb line which has a 0.06 diameter. The size vs. weighting is fantastic and it really is a smooth line which facilitates casts and actually allows one to cast further. When using it on a 10-20 gram, 2.7m spinning rod it worked really well on a Ryobi Applause reel. The lures I was using were in line with the rods criteria and ranged from minnows, wtd lures, jointed lures, silicone lures and also light metal jigs (obviously sinking and floating). I also used a fluorocarbon leader and most of the time a small swivel attached.

The only problem I encountered is when using it on the slightly heavier spinning rod, when using heavy lures and jigging them from sore in order to give them a particular motion; one has to watch out what that he does not create the birds-nest himself. Another final note, when you spool with this line see that you calculate effectively the amount of backing mono. I thought i had put enough but the line is so thin that i ended with three-quarters of the spool filled in. This led to loads of knots and nests. A beginner's mistake. Therefore get it spooled properly with enough mono. I practically wasted mine because of such beginners' mistakes but you learn and you grow.

I therefore really suggest this line and must say that I really enjoyed using it in both calm and rough conditions. The price-product comparison is also very good for such quality in my opinion.

Now I am trying the SpiderWire braid in 0.12 diameter and red colour. Will keep you posted. By the way the above is only my opinion which is not really worth much seeing the limited experience, but it might help when shopping

Regards,
jean

fishfinder · February 06, 2010, 06:27:08 CET

Jean I have to agree with you regarding the Berkley WHiplash. It's the perfect braid for spinning and once in the water it looks like a mono. It's a little bit expensive but it will last very long.

noztheviking · February 06, 2010, 13:35:58 CET

Are you using the braided lines on multiplier type reels or fixed spool open faced spinning reels please

fishfinder · February 06, 2010, 17:33:21 CET

normal reels not multipliers.

jean · February 06, 2010, 19:46:07 CET

same for me, normal reel not multipliers. Although I would like to experiment with the multipliers I'm don't know what advantages these have over normal (fixed spool if not mistaken) reels for shore fishing. And the bird's nests worry me loads on them

The SpiderWire is also holding really well. This morning tried out a good session with both heavy and light lures and all went well without any probs. Only thing no fish in sight apart from one chase by something i didnt recognise in very shallow water (talking 40cm shallow type)!

MartinB · February 06, 2010, 20:38:39 CET

Personally i prefer Powerpro braid as its extremely flexible & so it spools very well on fixed spool reels,whilst at the same time still being very tough & abrasion resistant (great if you fish in rocky spots alot!) and also its never given me any probs with the connecting knot (from flouro/mono to braid) slipping or weakening.
I guess i kind of mostly stick to what i know works!!..That being said however ive heard nothing but good things about spiderwire through friends on the net

& with red light being the 1st colour to be absorbed in sea water,red is theoretically a good colour choice for braid,esp if your spinning mainly at night/early morning in which case its the ideal choice!

Quote from: jean on February 06, 2010, 19:46:07 CET
Only thing no fish in sight apart from one chase by something i didnt recognise in very shallow water (talking 40cm shallow type)!

A skalm/Lizard fish maybe? they are quite aggressive and love shallow water spots! however if you were using a large lure or spinner they will often follow up only and not strike..but if you use a small/light lure they'll attack it pretty much straight away!
Regards
Martinb

clutch_kick · February 07, 2010, 10:22:44 CET

Re: Casting reels; Jean that day you saw me at Silvio's he showed me a small daiwa casting reel. Christ I was impressed! Until then casting reels never really caught my attention, but now that I handled one it's a different story.

It seems that as soon as I finish the Lamiglas 7' 3/4oz I'm working on now, I'll start working on a small 6' casting rod, hopefully to use for Lampuki from the boat hehehe

jean · February 07, 2010, 11:13:20 CET

I bet i know which one

lets bet a beer - The Daiwa Megaforce with Twitching Bar right?

I saw it the next day and since I saw it I couldn't stop thinking about it

hehe! I think the greatest advantage is the balance this achieves and the retrieve speed with a ratio of 7:1. This topic links with the surface lures I think as the drag is super sensitive from what i am reading and the twitching bar ideal for both surface and silicone lures.